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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty Dave on September 02, 2019, 08:53:40 AM
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An other big game, hoping to make it.
Barring injuries I would suggest we may go with the same starting lineup.
Three points please
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If Jake is ready, I wouldn't hesitate to put him in the side. However, the fact he was left on the bench on Saturday makes it unlikely he'll play tomorrow. I wonder if Josh will be on the bench.
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If Jake is ready, I wouldn't hesitate to put him in the side. However, the fact he was left on the bench on Saturday makes it unlikely he'll play tomorrow. I wonder if Josh will be on the bench.
Josh was an active part of the warm-up drills on Saturday so he can't be too far away, but I believe he's still nursing the tweak he picked up away at Brackley so we have to be careful. Too big a player, needs to be 100% and the same goes for Moult. That said, Hemmings was great in the #10 role and I agree with Dave - unchanged if we can do so.
Southport 1-2 Altrincham
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A very rare midweek game in the North for me so am looking forward to my first trip to Haig Avenue for about 20 years I’d guess.
Had a look on PortChat, the natives grumbling as usual and they like us have had an underwhelming start to the season, difference is I think the vast majority of us think long term that this management and set of players can take us forward, don’t get that impression with Port fans and Watson.
Important with two home games this week we build on Saturday’s momentum and with our away record so far being two draws and two defeats then I’ll go with a low scoring 1-1.
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Same starting 11.
Southport 0-2 Alty. Hulme Johnston
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DEFINITELY wouldn't change the side that started on Saturday. Southport's two wins have both been by 3-0 margins, but the other six games have only yielded one goal. Their defence, however, has only been breached six times in eight games.
It'll be tight, and I feel that we need to score early if we want all three points. It won't be easy, and it won't be pretty.
1-0 Hemmings
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10% discount if you buy your ticket online in advance. Can't say fairer than that.
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same starting XI same III points please.
cmno alty!
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I can tell you now that morale amongst Southport fans is very, very low - I know a few regulars who have chosen not to go tomorrow. The team have collapsed after a decent start. Will we turn up? They're certainly there for the taking.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Hemmings emulate Mick Carmody's memorable piledriver which secured us a 2-1 victory at Southport back in September 1995.
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Why, after a decent win on Saturday, did we then go out with a different team and a different formation?
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That first half was embarrassing. Never seen so many terrible passes. White looked as if he had never played football before and he was dog turd again. Neither full back are playing well this season. Surely Dens should be given a few games over White. His pass completion must have been about 20%. Awful.
PP got the team selection very wrong and allowed them to play their terrible long balls and throwings into the box. Should have started with the same team as on Saturday.
We are a different team with Hancock and Ceesay on the pitch. Those two must start every game.
People may have groaned about JJ going off but Hemmings has that extra quality and much better at crossing.
We need Hannigan back. Jones and Mullarkey were bullied first half.
Still missing that quality centre mid.
On a plus side Thompson played well and had to.
Can we have the purple kit back as we can't compete passes in the grey.
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That first half was embarrassing. Never seen so many terrible passes. White looked as if he had never played football before and he was dog turd again. Neither full back are playing well this season. Surely Dens should be given a few games over White. His pass completion must have been about 20%. Awful.
PP got the team selection very wrong and allowed them to play their terrible long balls and throwings into the box. Should have started with the same team as on Saturday.
We are a different team with Hancock and Ceesay on the pitch. Those two must start every game.
People may have groaned about JJ going off but Hemmings has that extra quality and much better at crossing.
We need Hannigan back. Jones and Mullarkey were bullied first half.
Still missing that quality centre mid.
On a plus side Thompson played well and had to.
Can we have the purple kit back as we can't compete passes in the grey.
Agree with every word of that. The grey kit is actually quite sh*t. Does anyone actually have one?
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Thought it was just me that thought this season's away kit is horrible
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As soon as I heard the team read out I said might as well go home now we went for a point and got beat by an average side
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That first half was embarrassing. Never seen so many terrible passes. White looked as if he had never played football before and he was dog turd again. Neither full back are playing well this season. Surely Dens should be given a few games over White. His pass completion must have been about 20%. Awful.
PP got the team selection very wrong and allowed them to play their terrible long balls and throwings into the box. Should have started with the same team as on Saturday.
We are a different team with Hancock and Ceesay on the pitch. Those two must start every game.
People may have groaned about JJ going off but Hemmings has that extra quality and much better at crossing.
We need Hannigan back. Jones and Mullarkey were bullied first half.
Still missing that quality centre mid.
On a plus side Thompson played well and had to.
Can we have the purple kit back as we can't compete passes in the grey.
Got to agree first half was shocking. We were very lucky not to be five down. Second half was better but we do we have to fight back so often?
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Tony Thompson stopped that from being an incredibly embarrassing evening. All I can be arsed to post at the moment.
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May sound a bit harsh this post however that was a shambles
Hard to think most of this team almost got us to a play of final some of them need a long hard think and decide if they are worthy
To wear the Alty shirt.
First half we could not string a pass together without losing possession.There first goal should have been disallowed for a blatant push even the
Southport players looked shocked it was given,the second goal well not alot you can do about them great strike from there number 7
Second half was slightly better let's be honest could not of been worse cesay should be starting all the time for me he caused them endless
Problems when he came on.
The referee should of sent himself of he was awfull,a game that should has seen Southport reduced to 9 men.
I am getting a bit concerned now Southport were nothing special.
MOM Tony Thompson some great saves that stopped a total humiliation.
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Oh dear. First half we were shocking, penned back, physically bullied and passing very poor. Granted Southports second just before HT was an absolute cracker and no GK was saving that, cleanly struck on the half volley from the edge of the box into the roof of the net. Worth mentioning TT who under difficult conditions had an excellent game in goal I thought.
Second half we gave it a real go & Hulmes header a beauty-he’s clearly back in the groove at least. Overall though Southport winning 2-1 was a fair reflection as if you only turn up for 45 mins in this league you’ll get beat. Why Ceesay did not start I have no idea, he drew 2 Port men to the ball every time he went on a run and could have been the physical presence we needed.
A word for Southport, awful to watch but effective and will be hard to beat at Haig Avenue I suspect, they did a number on us tonight but having seen us twice now this season-home vs York and tonight-we look bang average to be sadly honest.
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Regarding the kit, thats what happens when the club just allow the supplier to do whatever he pleases. But hardly the most pressing issue.
I hope the incredibly poor ref doesn't get in the way of us being sh*te yet again.
They were rubbish and still miles better than us. Didn't turn up until Ceesy came on. He looked good, and gave us a bit more zip.
The worrying thing tonight was, I don't think they even pressed us that well. We were just a shambles of a side. Poor old Jordan worked his socks off and didn't really get a touch. We're not even getting done by good sides, we just look rubbish.
Frank and maybe a bit harsh, but we can't have a season like we did last year and end up 11th this year. Phil's put a high price on us and now needs to earn his keep sorting us out.
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I heard that Ceesay arrived late, hence wasn't in the warm-up, and couldn't start. Unconfirmed though.
Our formation was wrong, and Jake Moult clearly isn't ready to just step back into the team. The first half was every bit as bad as the Boston debacle, and Thompson did well to keep it down to two.
Hulme was persistently fouled throughout, but the useless referee let most of it go.
We improved when Ceesay and Hancock came on, and could have sneaked a point if we'd kept 11 men on the pitch. In the end, we deserved what we got, and all the excuses in the world can't disguise that.
The saddest thing for me tonight was JJ, who, together with White, had an absolute stinker.
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First half....just battered by Liam Watson's completely predictable tactics....out-muscled and won not one 50/50 ball....very poor and so frustrating to watch when you know we can do so much better.
Much better second half but damage done and once again our poor disciplinary record prevents a comeback.....granted - how they finished with 11 men beggars belief - but we have to factor in completely useless referees such as the clown we had tonight and make sure we salvage something from these games
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That first half was embarrassing. Never seen so many terrible passes. White looked as if he had never played football before and he was dog turd again. Neither full back are playing well this season. Surely Dens should be given a few games over White. His pass completion must have been about 20%. Awful.
PP got the team selection very wrong and allowed them to play their terrible long balls and throwings into the box. Should have started with the same team as on Saturday.
We are a different team with Hancock and Ceesay on the pitch. Those two must start every game.
People may have groaned about JJ going off but Hemmings has that extra quality and much better at crossing.
We need Hannigan back. Jones and Mullarkey were bullied first half.
Still missing that quality centre mid.
On a plus side Thompson played well and had to.
Can we have the purple kit back as we can't compete passes in the grey.
That's a pretty accurate synopsis of a very dispiriting performance.
We were utterly abject in that first half, sitting far too deep and simply inviting Southport on to attack us. Moult was virtually an auxiliary central defender. So many misplaced passes and possession being conceded much too easily.
We looked extremely vulnerable from every Southport long throw and corner. And yes, White truly had an evening that he will want to forget in a hurry.
Williams was correctly withdrawn at half-time and things did at least pick up with the introduction of Hancock and the subsequent arrival of Ceesay.
No complaints regarding Richman's dismissal, however I'm still not quite sure how their substitute Zehn Mohammed (No. 15) contrived to escape receiving a red card after two bad challenges in the space of a few minutes.
Nine points from nine league games represents an underwhelming return. Thank goodness that nobody is filming a documentary about us so far this season...
I would also add that someone needs to have a few quiet words of wisdom with one of our directors, whose embarrassing behaviour after the final whistle in leaning over the main stand tunnel and bellowing invective at the referee constituted an unedifying coda that was not befitting of a club official.
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Wasn't there last night so can can't comment on specifics, but there's no doubt that Jones is better with Hannigan next to him (Malarkey would be better with Hannigan next to him).
We will be more of a threat with Ceesay on the pitch but if he's arrived late then he can't start.
Is that 3 red cards in 9 nine games? For a team that's not overly physical that is bad.
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Right back and midfielder needed? probably a keeper also as back up at least
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Last night was as everyone said really disappointing and frustrating. Why change a winning lineup, if it was as I have read because Ceesay arrived late then he cost us dear. I agree with everything Oliie says.
Thought Thommo was excellent in goal, he kept us in the game. Their second a dipping half volley was excellent, however there was a foul just before it and Jake gave the ball away. So shouldn't have happened in that passage of play.
No consistency and we looked leggy, they were far fitter/quicker to the ball than us as you would expect of fulltime v part time. last season it wasn't apparent though. So whats changed?
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Dreadful first half, 2nd was slightly better when Hancock and Ceesay came on.
We were beating the likes of Southport, Chester. Brackley away last year, clearly they have strengthened where we haven’t, our close season work has been dreadful, hopefully we gain enough points at home to climb the table, more loaners look inevitable.
I agree with the comments regarding the embarrassing scene at the end, the officials were poor but just bite the lip.
Leamington next and 3 points are a must or it will be difficult to gain any momentum up the table, yes it’s early but in my opinion we look mid table or lower.
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That first half was embarrassing. Never seen so many terrible passes. White looked as if he had never played football before and he was dog turd again. Neither full back are playing well this season. Surely Dens should be given a few games over White. His pass completion must have been about 20%. Awful.
PP got the team selection very wrong and allowed them to play their terrible long balls and throwings into the box. Should have started with the same team as on Saturday.
We are a different team with Hancock and Ceesay on the pitch. Those two must start every game.
People may have groaned about JJ going off but Hemmings has that extra quality and much better at crossing.
We need Hannigan back. Jones and Mullarkey were bullied first half.
Still missing that quality centre mid.
On a plus side Thompson played well and had to.
Can we have the purple kit back as we can't compete passes in the grey.
That's a pretty accurate synopsis of a very dispiriting performance.
We were utterly abject in that first half, sitting far too deep and simply inviting Southport on to attack us. Moult was virtually an auxiliary central defender. So many misplaced passes and possession being conceded much too easily.
We looked extremely vulnerable from every Southport long throw and corner. And yes, White truly had an evening that he will want to forget in a hurry.
Williams was correctly withdrawn at half-time and things did at least pick up with the introduction of Hancock and the subsequent arrival of Ceesay.
No complaints regarding Richman's dismissal, however I'm still not quite sure how their substitute Zehn Mohammed (No. 15) contrived to escape receiving a red card after two bad challenges in the space of a few minutes.
Nine points from nine league games represents an underwhelming return. Thank goodness that nobody is filming a documentary about us so far this season...
I would also add that someone needs to have a few quiet words of wisdom with one of our directors, whose embarrassing behaviour after the final whistle in leaning over the main stand tunnel and bellowing invective at the referee constituted an unedifying coda that was not befitting of a club official.
We only had 9pts after 9 games last season. The 9th game was a disappointing home defeat against Curzon.
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That was the worst first half of football ive seen from an Alty side since i started watching 17 years ago. Absolute shambles. We really need to bring in 3/4 quality players and replace the average players within the squad. Hannigan may make some rash decisions but he is by far our best centre back. Our team is no better from last season and it appears others have strengthened. If we dont bring in the reinforcements required then we are a mid table team at best this season. This current squad will not get playoffs i am sure of that. Hancock has to start every game he is the only player who looks like creating anything. We seriously lack quality from back to front.
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A quality centre mid who can cover box to box.
I think we need fullbacks. I rate Hamspon but he has lost pace.
Ceesay and Hancock will make a huge difference. A fit Moult will also make a difference but he is quite a few games off match fitness. I would start him on Saturday at home.
At the moment I would start Hemmings over JJ.
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I would like to see Dens back at right back, Moult and Ringo in centre mid and the same forward 4 we had against Farsley
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Has Williams ever put in a match winning performance? I don't just mean played on the winning team. He looked totally out of his depth last night. Admittedly Southport first half did everything right to stop Altrincham, but it's hard to think that only a few months ago we took promotion winning Chorley to a penalty shoot-out.
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Tuesday evening's three goals:
https://southportfc.net/goals-goal-clips-southport-v-altrincham/ (https://southportfc.net/goals-goal-clips-southport-v-altrincham/)
Liam Watson's post-match interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eidue6yAvno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eidue6yAvno)
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Has Williams ever put in a match winning performance? I don't just mean played on the winning team. He looked totally out of his depth last night. Admittedly Southport first half did everything right to stop Altrincham, but it's hard to think that only a few months ago we took promotion winning Chorley to a penalty shoot-out.
He was quality last Saturday imho
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He gave the ball away more in the 45 minutes he was on than any other player I have ever seen. He was correctly withdrawn and should be nowhere near the starting 11 on Saturday.
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He gave the ball away more in the 45 minutes he was on than any other player I have ever seen. He was correctly withdrawn and should be nowhere near the starting 11 on Saturday.
To be fair, the same accusation could be made to the entire team, minus Thompson. It was abject from everyone, so totally wrong to single out one player. I could do the same for a different player, but I don’t see the point. By your logic, we would need to play the reserves on Saturday as everyone was crap..
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The manager chose to withdraw him.
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The manager chose to withdraw him.
The manager also chose to start with a different formation to that used on Saturday. Maybe Ceesay arriving late forced his hand. Sean Williams was given a different role to the one in which, to my mind, he's been one of our most consistent performers so far this season. It clearly didn't suit his style of play. He'll be back, and he'll prove his worth.
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Thought it was just me that thought this season's away kit is horrible
No, it is naff, and difficult tp pick out in poor lighting conditions. Perhaps we should change it yellow, as we were very good at passing to yellow shirts on Tuesday.
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I want an orange kit.
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Has Williams ever put in a match winning performance? I don't just mean played on the winning team. He looked totally out of his depth last night. Admittedly Southport first half did everything right to stop Altrincham, but it's hard to think that only a few months ago we took promotion winning Chorley to a penalty shoot-out.
He was quality last Saturday imho
I agree, comes in for some harsh and unfair criticism in my opinion.