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Title: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 15, 2019, 04:11:30 PM
I'm quite looking forward to this - new ground for me, a team I know little about (but as they've just been promoted they're clearly not mugs), and hopefully a number of our players who feel they have something to prove after Saturday.

I hope to see Dontai Gabidon given another chance, and also the lad from Chester who wore the 3 shirt in the second half on Saturday.

It's important to get a professional performance under our belts, not least if we end up playing a "Blackpool XI" on Saturday that looks likely to be made up of juniors, program sellers, and the coach driver's nephew.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on July 15, 2019, 05:02:53 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on July 15, 2019, 06:44:30 PM
I saw them several times last year and they are certainly no mugs! They have enjoyed several promotions in the last few years and have a very settled team. It'll be a good test.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 16, 2019, 08:05:38 PM
1-0 Atherton Penalty
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 16, 2019, 08:19:21 PM
1-1 Toby Mullarkey
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 16, 2019, 08:24:51 PM
Sorry, Alty scorer Tom Peers
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 16, 2019, 09:10:22 PM
2-1 Alty - Harrop
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 16, 2019, 09:17:42 PM
2-2 now
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on July 16, 2019, 10:52:26 PM
We really do need a proper keeper. Where is Drench? We played well in patches and Max's free kick was sublime. Colls will do well in the Evostik.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 16, 2019, 11:33:17 PM
We really do need a proper keeper. Where is Drench? We played well in patches and Max's free kick was sublime. Colls will do well in the Evostik.

Thompson was really poor tonight. If Drench isn't going to be fit fairly soon, we need to bring someone in as a matter of urgency.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 17, 2019, 06:33:02 AM
Was the mixup solely the doing of Thompson, or was Jones culpable too?

I do feel that the latter has lapses in concentration too from time to time you know. I'd feel much more comfortable with Hannigan and Harrison together at the back.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: oneedham on July 17, 2019, 07:28:45 AM
We really do need a proper keeper. Where is Drench? We played well in patches and Max's free kick was sublime. Colls will do well in the Evostik.

Thompson was really poor tonight. If Drench isn't going to be fit fairly soon, we need to bring someone in as a matter of urgency.

Needed a new keeper two seasons ago.

So frustrating as it is a vital position. 10 plus points are made by a decent keeper.

Hopefully Drench will be fit soon. Should have kept Wynne over Thompson.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on July 17, 2019, 07:45:00 AM
Serious concerns as we stumble through pre sesson
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 17, 2019, 08:28:47 AM
Serious concerns as we stumble through pre sesson

A   bit too early to be concerned?
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 17, 2019, 09:30:00 AM
Was the mixup solely the doing of Thompson, or was Jones culpable too?

I do feel that the latter has lapses in concentration too from time to time you know. I'd feel much more comfortable with Hannigan and Harrison together at the back.

It wasn't just the mix-up. He flapped at the ball on three or four occasions.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: oneedham on July 17, 2019, 10:29:37 AM
Was the mixup solely the doing of Thompson, or was Jones culpable too?

I do feel that the latter has lapses in concentration too from time to time you know. I'd feel much more comfortable with Hannigan and Harrison together at the back.



It wasn't just the mix-up. He flapped at the ball on three or four occasions.

Tough decisions have to be made in football and he has been given more than enough games/seasons.

Is there any fan who is 90%, nevermind 100% sure he is our best choice?

I can't fault his passion but his kicking is awful, decision making even worst, poor at coming for crosses, struggles to get down for low shots. He is OK at close blocks, which is basically when he throws his whole body at someone shooting 6 yards out.

I feel we always put plasters on Thompson.He has a few OK/stable games in which you expect a keeper at this level to produce and we think all is OK.

I am 100% certain he is not long term and is often protected by a decent defence. The defenders don't trust him, you can see that.

I am being harsh but surely enough is enough. A decent keeper is vital. I have no doubt Stockport's and Chorley's  keeper gained both those teams 10 plus points.

Every time it goes back to Thompson most fans hold their breath. Shouldn't be the case at this level.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 17, 2019, 10:32:57 AM
Was the mixup solely the doing of Thompson, or was Jones culpable too?

I do feel that the latter has lapses in concentration too from time to time you know. I'd feel much more comfortable with Hannigan and Harrison together at the back.



It wasn't just the mix-up. He flapped at the ball on three or four occasions.

Tough decisions have to be made in football and he has been given more than enough games/seasons.

Is there any fan who is 90%, nevermind 100% sure he is our best choice?

I can't fault his passion but his kicking is awful, decision making even worst, poor at coming for crosses, struggles to get down for low shots. He is OK at close blocks, which is basically when he throws his whole body at someone shooting 6 yards out.

I feel we always put plasters on Thompson.He has a few OK/stable games in which you expect a keeper at this level to produce and we think all is OK.

I am 100% certain he is not long term and is often protected by a decent defence. The defenders don't trust him, you can see that.

I am being harsh but surely enough is enough. A decent keeper is vital. I have no doubt Stockport's and Chorley's  keeper gained both those teams 10 plus points.

Every time it goes back to Thompson most fans hold their breath. Shouldn't be the case at this level.

Spot on. We need to be ruthless and that's the glaringly obvious weakness at the moment.

There must still be decent goalkeepers on the market, and I'd rather we get it right now (I distinctly remember we got Jordan quite late when his Salford situation changed).
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 17, 2019, 10:40:00 AM
TT has stayed on the back end of last season's form which was very good hes possibly on contract
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on July 17, 2019, 11:36:15 AM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: oneedham on July 17, 2019, 11:59:12 AM
TT has stayed on the back end of last season's form which was very good hes possibly on contract

Was it very good or the standard we should expect? A keeper needs a and should be consistent for 90% of games.

Just can't see him improving, he's not got the right physical build for being a keeper.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on July 17, 2019, 01:55:13 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 17, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
Thompson's form improved dramatically when we signed Drench. It's tailed  off again now that he doesn't have a challenger for the jersey in the short term. I honestly believe he gets complacent, and that it affects his game.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on July 17, 2019, 03:19:58 PM
Thompson was involved in multiple mix ups last night, not just the one. I love PP's loyalty and I believe that's why the players love him so much, but if we are serious about going up, the keeper needs to change. It is harsh and like so many, I've hoped he'll come good but he's a constant liability I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on July 17, 2019, 07:24:00 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe that he is 1 of 6 children & all 6 have a christian name beginning with 'C'.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Nom de plume on July 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe that he is 1 of 6 children & all 6 have a christian name beginning with 'C'.
Do all six have a surname beginning with ‘s’?
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 17, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe that he is 1 of 6 children & all 6 have a christian name beginning with 'C'.
Do all six have a surname beginning with ‘s’?

When I worked briefly for the Inland Revenue ((1967-8) I dealt with Manchester Education Committee's non-teaching staff. One woman named O'Connor had 5 children. None of their surnames began with O - nor indeed did any of them start with the same letter !
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Nom de plume on July 18, 2019, 07:25:04 AM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe that he is 1 of 6 children & all 6 have a christian name beginning with 'C'.
Do all six have a surname beginning with ‘s’?

When I worked briefly for the Inland Revenue ((1967-8) I dealt with Manchester Education Committee's non-teaching staff. One woman named O'Connor had 5 children. None of their surnames began with O - nor indeed did any of them start with the same letter !
Didn’t quite mean it that way, just that initials would all be CS
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 18, 2019, 08:19:41 AM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.



I believe the following footballers went to Welly Road,Frank Carrodus, Danny Higgibbotham,Kieran Westwood ,Danny Adam's plus  a faiir few semi pro players.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on July 18, 2019, 10:53:13 AM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.



I believe the following footballers went to Welly Road,Frank Carrodus, Danny Higgibbotham,Kieran Westwood ,Danny Adam's plus  a faiir few semi pro players.

Oliver Turton (Blackpool) and George Edmundson (Rangers) more recently.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 18, 2019, 12:32:05 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.



I believe the following footballers went to Welly Road,Frank Carrodus, Danny Higgibbotham,Kieran Westwood ,Danny Adam's plus  a faiir few semi pro players.

Oliver Turton (Blackpool) and George Edmundson (Rangers) more recently.


Presume they are both local?Also Oliver Byrne ex Cardiff ?Produced more than the other schools bar ashton on.mersey
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on July 18, 2019, 01:11:59 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.

I believe the following footballers went to Welly Road,Frank Carrodus, Danny Higgibbotham,Kieran Westwood ,Danny Adam's plus  a faiir few semi pro players.

Oliver Turton (Blackpool) and George Edmundson (Rangers) more recently.

Presume they are both local?Also Oliver Byrne ex Cardiff ?Produced more than the other schools bar ashton on.mersey

I believe so, both have family in the area for sure.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Jezza on July 18, 2019, 01:43:14 PM
Its a couple of games into pre season friendlies and Mr Needham continues his bitter sad vendetta against a player who was vital in our promotion from obscurity and in our play off run.

Watch the sodding videos from buxton and shaw lane and the end of last season needham you joker....we'd still be in the glue league without him and he deserves a bit more respect as a member of one of only 4 title winning alty teams in the last 50 years.

Don't think anyone has forgotten your ludicrous prediction that thommo would cost us a place in the play off semi against blyth and how I was proved right in my prediction he would make crucial saves to enable our passage....and how meekly and sheepishly you had to apologise and admit you looked a bit of a pratt afterwards.

http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23912.0 (http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23912.0)

and
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23920.0 (http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23920.0)

Had a right laugh with TT about the knobs on the forum who don't know what they are talking as we celebrated on the pitch after his match winning performance V blyth to put us in the semi...
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on July 18, 2019, 01:54:32 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe that he is 1 of 6 children & all 6 have a christian name beginning with 'C'.
Do all six have a surname beginning with ‘s’?

I believe so.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 18, 2019, 02:59:11 PM
Turton  and Edmondson alty or timperley based growing up ?apparently kieran Westwood was from northenden but went to welly
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: oneedham on July 18, 2019, 03:58:35 PM
Its a couple of games into pre season friendlies and Mr Needham continues his bitter sad vendetta against a player who was vital in our promotion from obscurity and in our play off run.

Watch the sodding videos from buxton and shaw lane and the end of last season needham you joker....we'd still be in the glue league without him and he deserves a bit more respect as a member of one of only 4 title winning alty teams in the last 50 years.

Don't think anyone has forgotten your ludicrous prediction that thommo would cost us a place in the play off semi against blyth and how I was proved right in my prediction he would make crucial saves to enable our passage....and how meekly and sheepishly you had to apologise and admit you looked a bit of a pratt afterwards.

http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23912.0 (http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23912.0)

and
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23920.0 (http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23920.0)

Had a right laugh with TT about the knobs on the forum who don't know what they are talking as we celebrated on the pitch after his match winning performance V blyth to put us in the semi...


Numerous mistakes and right back at it in the last friendly.

We'll see.....

As for name calling..... get back under your rock.

As for calling people knobs it is nobs, unless your are referring to them as door knobs.

It is a forum for opinions and I want the best for the team that I support.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: alty.fc on July 18, 2019, 05:13:13 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.



I believe the following footballers went to Welly Road,Frank Carrodus, Danny Higgibbotham,Kieran Westwood ,Danny Adam's plus  a faiir few semi pro players.
da higgy went to green lane
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 18, 2019, 05:25:44 PM
A minor point of interest: Atherton's former Preston North End and St Johnstone defender Clive Smith is Timperley based.

Probably also the youngest person called Clive smith in the world

I believe he went to Wellington Rd.



I believe the following footballers went to Welly Road,Frank Carrodus, Danny Higgibbotham,Kieran Westwood ,Danny Adam's plus  a faiir few semi pro players.
da higgy went to green lane


He was meant to go to ags but didnt I thought welly but you probably know more than me
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Altyrocket on July 18, 2019, 07:56:23 PM
 Paul Bradshaw (G?K) went to welly rd if i recall correctly.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on July 18, 2019, 09:55:01 PM
Its a couple of games into pre season friendlies and Mr Needham continues his bitter sad vendetta against a player who was vital in our promotion from obscurity and in our play off run.

Watch the sodding videos from buxton and shaw lane and the end of last season needham you joker....we'd still be in the glue league without him and he deserves a bit more respect as a member of one of only 4 title winning alty teams in the last 50 years.

Don't think anyone has forgotten your ludicrous prediction that thommo would cost us a place in the play off semi against blyth and how I was proved right in my prediction he would make crucial saves to enable our passage....and how meekly and sheepishly you had to apologise and admit you looked a bit of a pratt afterwards.

http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23912.0 (http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23912.0)

and
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23920.0 (http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=23920.0)

Had a right laugh with TT about the knobs on the forum who don't know what they are talking as we celebrated on the pitch after his match winning performance V blyth to put us in the semi...


Teflon Thompson is a decent Evostick keeper who can do a job in the Conf North but if we’re looking to progress to The Conf National then we need someone more reliable between the sticks.
Title: Re: Atherton Collieries match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 18, 2019, 11:52:22 PM
Steve Drench expected to play against Blackpool.