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Title: Chester match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 26, 2019, 07:53:07 AM
Hulme, Piggott or both?

Altrincham 2-1 Chester (Williams and Hancock)
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 26, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
Unless Jordan produces a massive performance for the stiffs tonight, I'd start The Pig and leave him on the bench. You just don't drop a player who's scored a hat trick last time out. Plus it might help if Jordan realises he's not indispensible.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on February 26, 2019, 10:19:38 AM
Cant see the lineup changing much, perhaps Drench for Thommo, but the rest as was barring injuries.

I agree with One foot that Jordan should be on the bench to start the game.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 26, 2019, 10:25:32 AM
Unless Jordan produces a massive performance for the stiffs tonight, I'd start The Pig and leave him on the bench. You just don't drop a player who's scored a hat trick last time out. Plus it might help if Jordan realises he's not indispensible.

Feed the Pig and he will score.. :D
Like it....
Agree with Jordon on the bench. Whatever he does in a reserve match he will no way be match fit enough to merit a start.
Hoping to make the Chester game..
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on February 26, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Hulme, Piggott or both?

Altrincham 2-1 Chester (Williams and Hancock)

As everyone knows I am a Hancock fan but I would start Jordan and Piggott. Have Jordan just in the hole but close to Piggott. I think they would cause havoc and Hancock is due a rest. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 26, 2019, 12:21:59 PM
Drench in for Thompson.

Hulme and Pigott to play a half each. It's the only fair way
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Jezza on February 26, 2019, 01:30:02 PM
Feed the pig and he will score.....Piggott to start in front of JJ hancock and ceesay
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Leon on February 26, 2019, 01:50:13 PM
I'd be surprised if Hulme starts against Chester. It's not like he's been in great goalscoring form - Piggott scored more goals on Saturday than Hulme has since mid November.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on February 26, 2019, 03:58:35 PM
Piggott should start without a doubt! You can’t drop someone who’s just bagged a hat trick and it’s now Piggotts place to lose. Hulme can have no complaints about a stint on the bench,it’s his own fault for getting suspended so much!
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: PukkaPieman on February 26, 2019, 04:15:53 PM
Piggott should start without a doubt! You can’t drop someone who’s just bagged a hat trick and it’s now Piggotts place to lose. Hulme can have no complaints about a stint on the bench,it’s his own fault for getting suspended so much!

I would normally agree with this, however, Joe is on loan and Jordan remains a far more experienced player who is likely to offer a greater threat as Chester will be better than the useless Curzon backline.
If Jordan doesnt perform then by all means PP will bring Joe on.
I have a feeling Jordan will come back with a bang,.. especially against his formers bosses !
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on February 26, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
Jordan Hulme is our best attacking player. He starts, for me.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Silent but Ledley on February 26, 2019, 06:47:49 PM
Stats don't show that this season!
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: alty.fc on February 26, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Shouldn't change a winning team IMO
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 26, 2019, 09:01:28 PM
I think Pig will play and obviously I can understand the reasons why. However, I saw with my own eyes how Jordan destroyed Chester at their place, so personally I'd select him. Either way, I suppose it's a nice 'problem' for the manager to have.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 26, 2019, 09:38:51 PM
Hulme got two for the reserves this evening and the new lad scored also
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: roytonmike on February 26, 2019, 09:47:14 PM
I suppose selection for Saturday might depend on just how physical (or do I mean brutal?) the ex-Salford duo's centre-halves might be. The more agricultural their approach is judged likely to be, the more it might make sense to pick Hulme - but will he have learned any lessons during his lay-off? Thank God I don't have to find the answer to this conundrum - I gladly place my trust in the collective judgment of Messrs. Parkinson & Sorvell!
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 26, 2019, 10:29:08 PM
Big game Saturday.
It would be nice to have a decent ref...
Q. Are they any decent referees in this league....
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 27, 2019, 02:46:20 PM
Big game Saturday.
It would be nice to have a decent ref...
Q. Are they any decent referees in this league....
A. Maybe one or two, so most games won't get one.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 28, 2019, 10:31:57 AM
Alty 5/4
Draw 13/5
Chester 17/10

A pivotal game on Saturday. I just hope to high hell that the club have learnt from the embarrassment of 16/02/16 when we last had a key game against chester at the bottom of the conference. When we surrendered home advantage due to a few agitators amongst the away support moaning about being uncovered and got spanked 0-3 and left home supporters with no where to stand during one half. It was that disheartening most people left the ground long before full time. Our supporters need to be able to stand in the corner of the popular side when shooting towards the chequers end, it’s as simple as that. We are at home and we need to win this game and have every advantage available. So I just hope people who make these decisions read this and
Think on. We cannot be having a rerun of that night. And spend the next few months thinking what might have been whilst chester sail off in to the National league on the back of 3 points here spurred on by a bouyant away support being more well though of than those that come
Here every week.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 28, 2019, 10:49:57 AM
Good post, I agree. We need to take full advantage of a tough home fixture against a Chester team that will be desperate to gain 3 points.
If we put in a similar performance as we did at there place then we can do the double over one of the top sides in this league.

The weather looks to be breezy with showers, bring a brolly and a coat you Chester fans.

Alty 3-1 Chester (Jordon to score on his return)
Att 1643
Cmon Alty
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on February 28, 2019, 11:00:16 AM
Our supporters need to be able to stand in the corner of the popular side when shooting towards the chequers end, it’s as simple as that. We are at home and we need to win this game and have every advantage available. So I just hope people who make these decisions read this and think on. We cannot be having a rerun of that night. And spend the next few months thinking what might have been whilst chester sail off in to the National league on the back of 3 points here spurred on by a buoyant away support being more well though of than those that come here every week.


Absolutely. Please get it right, Alty.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 28, 2019, 12:25:44 PM
Our supporters need to be able to stand in the corner of the popular side when shooting towards the chequers end, it’s as simple as that. We are at home and we need to win this game and have every advantage available. So I just hope people who make these decisions read this and think on. We cannot be having a rerun of that night. And spend the next few months thinking what might have been whilst chester sail off in to the National league on the back of 3 points here spurred on by a buoyant away support being more well though of than those that come here every week.


Absolutely. Please get it right, Alty.

Won't happen.

If our wingers are better than their full backs and we can get our full backs to push on we'll win

Alty 2-0 Chester. Hulme white
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on February 28, 2019, 03:10:28 PM
Alty 5/4
Draw 13/5
Chester 17/10

A pivotal game on Saturday. I just hope to high hell that the club have learnt from the embarrassment of 16/02/16 when we last had a key game against chester at the bottom of the conference. When we surrendered home advantage due to a few agitators amongst the away support moaning about being uncovered and got spanked 0-3 and left home supporters with no where to stand during one half. It was that disheartening most people left the ground long before full time. Our supporters need to be able to stand in the corner of the popular side when shooting towards the chequers end, it’s as simple as that. We are at home and we need to win this game and have every advantage available. So I just hope people who make these decisions read this and
Think on. We cannot be having a rerun of that night. And spend the next few months thinking what might have been whilst chester sail off in to the National league on the back of 3 points here spurred on by a bouyant away support being more well though of than those that come
Here every week.


Agreed. Need our fans in that far corner when shooting towards the away end. Makes a big difference in atmosphere. We are far too soft at accommodating away supporters.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Dave Acton Jnr on February 28, 2019, 03:54:09 PM
In full agreement with the posts above , 100% the away Chester fans should be put on the away end and just on the away end. Home fans should be able to go down to the far corner when were kicking that way and this creating a far better atmosphere. let's make sure we get fully behind the lads on Saturday in what we all know and agree is a massive game. Come on alty!!!
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on February 28, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
They're already discussing access to the "covered area" ie, the home end on their forum so it wouldn't surprise me if we crumble under the first sign of pressure and let them in there.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 28, 2019, 04:59:01 PM
Just put a notice on the home turnstiles stating that any visiting fans found not in the designated away end will be evicted. Also ring  Chester FC and tell the powers that be of our intentions. FFS let's not have them all around the ground... It's not rocket science...
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on February 28, 2019, 04:59:53 PM
or stewards outside the turnstiles as most other clubs do.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 28, 2019, 06:17:46 PM
100% agree with all of the above-the stewards standing up to the first finger jabbing scouser is the key. The away end is perfectly adequate for their 500 fans. If they want to stay dry they can sit in the stands. We should be 100% maximising home advantage against a key play off rival.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 28, 2019, 07:31:16 PM
Really hope our decision makers read this topic and act positively to posters wishes.. it will create a positive atmosphere for the fans and players alike.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on February 28, 2019, 08:35:24 PM
Some people may remember the last time we played Chester at home , which was on  a Tuesday night during the season we got relegated from the NL, and coincided with a group of lads attaching themselves to the club trying to kick off with away fans at various home games during that season. There are still a few of them around at home games though I've not seen them trying to start trouble, since then, this match may bring a few of their mates out of the woodwork. On that night it  kicked off outside the ground at the Moss Lane/Golf Road corner with a couple of bottles thrown by each group of Alty and Chester lads at each other, before fights breaking out further down Moss Lane near Stamford Park, before police arrived. I hope the club have made arrangements for adequate policing of the game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 28, 2019, 09:10:50 PM
I hope our stewards are given the support and not allowed to be bullied again.like the last game.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: MadFrankie on February 28, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
In full agreement with the posts above , 100% the away Chester fans should be put on the away end and just on the away end. Home fans should be able to go down to the far corner when were kicking that way and this creating a far better atmosphere. let's make sure we get fully behind the lads on Saturday in what we all know and agree is a massive game. Come on alty!!!
Fine sentiments but we have the same discussion multiple times per season, always with the same result.
I fully expect to watch half of Saturday’s game through a crappy fence.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Dave Acton Jnr on March 01, 2019, 08:09:09 AM
would just like to think at some point basic logic, taking what benefit we possibly can from home advantage and the opinion off numerous weekly paying loyal fans will shine through over some away fans having to plan to wear a coat. The away end officially can house ( I think 1400ish?) So should be deemed totally fine for around 500 away fans , I understand in cases like the new years day county game fully where extra away room was needed but not in games like this. If I was going to an away game id either accept how there away end is and get on with it or if the threat off rain worried me that much I wouldnt go I wouldn't expect to arrive at the ground and then start demanding which covered areas off the home sections I want to watch the game from. If the game is segregated where it should be it also means all home and away fans will be able to get a better view/or have the option off a better view off the game, and id personally say also reduces what can be far more high tempered verbal exchanges during a big local game through a mesh fence separating the fans than having a larger sterile area at the corner and this meaning the usual normal songs ,odd hand signal and football banter between fans.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Bob on March 01, 2019, 08:42:18 AM
would just like to think at some point basic logic, taking what benefit we possibly can from home advantage and the opinion off numerous weekly paying loyal fans will shine through over some away fans having to plan to wear a coat. The away end officially can house ( I think 1400ish?) So should be deemed totally fine for around 500 away fans , I understand in cases like the new years day county game fully where extra away room was needed but not in games like this. If I was going to an away game id either accept how there away end is and get on with it or if the threat off rain worried me that much I wouldnt go I wouldn't expect to arrive at the ground and then start demanding which covered areas off the home sections I want to watch the game from. If the game is segregated where it should be it also means all home and away fans will be able to get a better view/or have the option off a better view off the game, and id personally say also reduces what can be far more high tempered verbal exchanges during a big local game through a mesh fence separating the fans than having a larger sterile area at the corner and this meaning the usual normal songs ,odd hand signal and football banter between fans.

Excellent post, agree 100%
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on March 01, 2019, 09:23:27 AM
In full agreement with the posts above , 100% the away Chester fans should be put on the away end and just on the away end. Home fans should be able to go down to the far corner when were kicking that way and this creating a far better atmosphere. let's make sure we get fully behind the lads on Saturday in what we all know and agree is a massive game. Come on alty!!!
Fine sentiments but we have the same discussion multiple times per season, always with the same result.
I fully expect to watch half of Saturday’s game through a crappy fence.

If we're segregated at half way we should just stay on the Golf Road End to be honest.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on March 01, 2019, 09:27:52 AM
https://twitter.com/chesterfc/status/1101133867073847297?s=21

Bring an umbrella for goodness sake. There is none of this nonsense at Southport or york. The away end holds 1400, only wrexham and stockport need provison for any other area of the stadium.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on March 01, 2019, 09:36:51 AM
I'd be fine with a 1/2 and 1/2 compromise - allowing us to use our home facilities in the first half and then, weather permitting, giving them access to the final third of the pop side once we are back on the Golf Road End. Anything more than that would be a complete farce.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 01, 2019, 11:55:36 AM
So annoying as the board should recognise that the best atmosphere is always in that far corner and makes a huge difference to the performance of the team. I feel the atmosphere at home has been flat and it will be a poor decision to allow them more room.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on March 01, 2019, 03:31:31 PM
I still remember one of our fans being attacked in the Golf Road end by a Chester "fan". Put them out on the Chequers End - it's what they deserve.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: decman7 on March 01, 2019, 08:48:26 PM
All football matches should start segregated. Especially big games and crucial games like tomorrow. If I go to Southport and rain is forecast, I expect to get wet. We give teams far too much of a homely welcome when they come to Moss Lane. With the weather the way it could be tomorrow, I fully expect Chester fans to be accommodated. Id love to be proved wrong.

It does affect the atmosphere massively, as our fans have a habit of standing as far away from each other as physically possible.

However what does affect the atmosphere the most is people actually singing. Not everyone goes to the football to sing and I get that, but if you think the atmosphere is flat, try starting a song or joining in the the countless ones we do start. The atmosphere will improve massively. Some of the best aways this year for me have been the smaller ones, Brackley, Boston and Hereford. Not tons of us there, but you could hear us.

So get behind them tomorrow. Chester have a decent away following and we need to be loud.

Up The Robins

Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: alty.fc on March 02, 2019, 08:58:51 AM
Great opportunity for the powers that be to listen to the fans . The customers .

Time will tell
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on March 02, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
Informed we will have the entirety of the pop side today. As it should be. Come on Alty!
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 02, 2019, 01:20:11 PM
Good. Just need it to rain now
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on March 02, 2019, 02:43:47 PM
Altrincham line-up: 1) Thompson, 2) White, 3) Hampson, 4) Jones, 5) Hannigan, 6) Moult (C), 7) Johnston, 8) Williams, 9) Piggott, 10) Hancock, 11) Ceesay.
substitutes: 12) Dolan, 14) Richman, 15) Hulme, 16) Densmore, 20) Drench.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Old Alt on March 02, 2019, 05:12:57 PM
Looking at the result 4-0 seems an easy win, but it was nothing of the sort, a really hard-fought win....and 10 goals in two games...two clean sheets....back to 5th place.....well done boys
Chester looked well organised in the first half but once the player got sent off, we took advantage, they never really had a clear chance in the game, and in the second half they were pretty poor, I can't see that manageent team being at Chester next season.
As for us, we are back to our pre-Christmas form, and to do it in front of a crowd of 1700 was event better.
Play off's here we come....
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Jezza on March 02, 2019, 06:10:32 PM
we were the better team today against 11 men and 10 men.....both bookings were a bit soft given the sort of assaults that go unpunished in this league so the sending off was harsh.

But when the confidence flows boy does our football...fantastic noise on the golf rd and a superb 2nd half display.

Before o needham points it out another clean sheet for thommo and a good double save in the first half...well done thommo!

Hiitting form at just the right time with a strong squad....
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 02, 2019, 06:13:51 PM
Second half and not arsed about 10 men was quality.

JJ came alive.

Defenders worry about Cessay because of his Inspector Gadget legs.

Dolan without seeing much is quality.

On crutches and pissed.

Parkinson's red and white army.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 02, 2019, 06:20:42 PM
As said earlier, we were better than them in both halves. I know Chester are pretty toothless, but once again our 2 centre backs were faultless. The whole midfield was excellent too. Jake was my motm yet again. Up front, well Chester really don't like JJ, do they? Ceesay is just weird, not seen that style of player since Danny McGoona!
Piggot, Hulme or Chadwick? Glad it's not my decision.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 02, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
That is it Danny McGonna
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 02, 2019, 06:51:49 PM
As said earlier, we were better than them in both halves. I know Chester are pretty toothless, but once again our 2 centre backs were faultless. The whole midfield was excellent too. Jake was my motm yet again. Up front, well Chester really don't like JJ, do they? Ceesay is just weird, not seen that style of player since Danny McGoona!
Piggot, Hulme or Chadwick? Glad it's not my decision.

Respect to Piggott but it still doesn't stick as harsh as it is.

They were down when Hulme came on but at the same time we were a different level with Hulme. He wins so many corners from his little touches.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 02, 2019, 06:56:34 PM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 02, 2019, 07:22:47 PM
Much better second half. Williams was immense and my mom. Hannigan again superb.

Some of football 2nd half was delightful. Thompson had no save to make for 90 minutes.

Can we play them every week?
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 02, 2019, 07:36:40 PM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.

does anyone know when his loan expires ?
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 02, 2019, 07:36:50 PM
Very good second half .. after a decent first half where both teams cancelled each other out.
My MotM was Williams thought he was excellent today.
Great crowd made plenty of noise.
Up to 5th. Blyth up next, it won't be easy but definitely winnable.
Spoke to Matt Chadwick pre match he thinks he's a couple of weeks away.

Cmon Alty....
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 02, 2019, 07:40:46 PM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.

does anyone know when his loan expires ?

Will sound totally harsh but a fit Chadwick and Hulme is enough. I respect the lad but the ball still doesn't stick whether he scores or not. Different level with Hulme on.  I am not being negative but more realistic.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: jhcorbett on March 02, 2019, 07:46:35 PM
Entertaining afternoon that for a few reasons.
Well done to the club on getting the segregation implemented, proactive stewards on the Golf Road directing away fans to the right end before the game, away fans on the away end and home fans given access to all the popular side. Made for a decent atmosphere.
First half was fairly even. Don't think the sending off was harsh, it was a second yellow and makes a change for a ref not to bottle a decision against us, as usual.
After that we ran riot.
Well done all the lads, PP and NS!

We haven't nailed a play off place yet but here's hoping both us and Chester get in them.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on March 02, 2019, 08:41:27 PM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.

does anyone know when his loan expires ?
It's a youth loan - we've got him all season.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on March 02, 2019, 08:52:18 PM
Enjoyable day, and  we can be glad Scott Burton decided not to sign for us as his second yellow card was a reflection of his own stupidity, and did seem to play a big part in the way the game went.

The segregation went well, and I think we should thank some of the many decent Chester fans for their self policing of the idiots who were throwing things at Tony Thompson - talking of whom, credit for a second successive clean sheet in a big win.

A comfortable win in the end, and, subject to fitness and injuries, I would keep the same starting 11 for Blyth, especially considering the loss of momentum following the changes made against Stockport in the FA Trophy.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: alty.fc on March 02, 2019, 09:42:52 PM
I've broken my curse . Great result well done to all that organised the crowd so well and well done to the players and management
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on March 03, 2019, 02:11:35 AM
Yeah full credit. If we’ve all got time to come on here and express opinion about the segregation we should take a sec to say thanks to those who listened and put it into practice. Stewards handled them young’uns very well in the first half, credit to the club.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on March 03, 2019, 08:35:32 AM
sean williams has won me over at last. especially with these attempted paul scholes type volleys from corners. can't wait to see one go in. the sending off was totally justified, and should have happened earlier as he should have been booked early in the first half. once he'd gone they started to behave themselves and got opened up. it was good that alty scored so quickly after the red card as it stopped chester from sitting back too much.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Pwill on March 03, 2019, 10:53:29 AM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.

does anyone know when his loan expires ?
It's a youth loan - we've got him all season.

I’d be surprised if Wigan don’t recall him before long. He’s far too good for this level.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on March 03, 2019, 11:16:27 AM
Thought we were superb yesterday again. Well done to the team and for arranging the ground properly, what a decent atmosphere and good match day experience for the supporters, many thanks and let’s see this become the norm.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 03, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.



does anyone know when his loan expires ?
It's a youth loan - we've got him all season.

I’d be surprised if Wigan don’t recall him before long. He’s far too good for this level.

I don't actually think he is too good for this level and he will learn a lot. You can see at times that he holds onto the ball a tad too long which he would probably get away with at Under 21 level. This is a tough physical league that he will gain valuable experience from. Certainly a different class to Dack or whatever his name was. I do rate him but just needs to retain the ball more often. Jordan won corners when he came and we just generally gelled better, albeit they had 10 men.
Title: Re: Chester match thread
Post by: Old Alt on March 03, 2019, 02:47:06 PM
Would be much too harsh to drop the Pig in fairness. As such a big lad, he also plays a vital role when opponents get corners.



does anyone know when his loan expires ?
It's a youth loan - we've got him all season.

I’d be surprised if Wigan don’t recall him before long. He’s far too good for this level.

I don't actually think he is too good for this level and he will learn a lot. You can see at times that he holds onto the ball a tad too long which he would probably get away with at Under 21 level. This is a tough physical league that he will gain valuable experience from. Certainly a different class to Dack or whatever his name was. I do rate him but just needs to retain the ball more often. Jordan won corners when he came and we just generally gelled better, albeit they had 10 men.

I don't think he was fit when he arrived, in the second half against FC United, he looked very tired and PP referenced his fitness in one of his post match interviews. He is getting fitter and starting to look a better player, but in this league you get a few bigger, stronger and older centre  backs.
With two games in four days, having some options gives us chance to use more players, you could tell that with the substitutes on Saturday.