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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on February 18, 2019, 09:47:36 AM
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If White is fit I'd have him in at lb. After that I can't see any changes from Saturdays starting 11.
Massive game for us which we can't afford to lose.
Alty 1-1 Spennymoor. Johnson
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I think it's spennymoor we are playing tomorrow
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You're quite right.
Amended
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Massive game as stated, hopefully a better performance from us under the floodlights.
Lets get at them and secure that victory.
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Spennymoor have not lost a league game this season to any team outside the current top six, and if they win their two games in hand they'll move to within a point of leaders Chorley.
We should have won the away fixture from 4-3 up, but after our last two showings, and with a paper-thin bench, I don't unfortunately see us getting anything from this match.
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If White is fit I'd have him in at lb. After that I can't see any changes from Saturdays starting 11.
Massive game for us which we can't afford to lose.
Alty 1-1 Spennymoor. Johnson
Agree again. White in for Hampson who just doesn't seem himself.
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The bench might be as bare tomorrow as on Saturday - there might be a case for putting two or three youngsters there rather than an injured White, sick Williams or nominal Poole. Sadly neither of the debutant subs on Saturday looked even remotely up to standard. I have a nasty feeling Spennymoor are going to be a bit too good for us - I hope I'm wrong - & that Curzon on Saturday will be equally difficult unless the availability situation improves all of a sudden. Piggott will try his best but we mustn't forget that he's a boy (albeit a big one) being asked to do a man's job.
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Just watched the United game. Can we have similar intensity and high pressing tomorrow night please. What a performance.
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Good start, should have had a pen, concede to a decent strike and that was it. Too slow, lack of movement, their full backs were better than our wingers and Hancock had the worse game I can recall.
Credit to spennymoor they were well organised and clinical. As good a job as Stockport and Boston did on us at home.
No plan b is the most worrying aspect
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They were saying on RR that Hulme will be back on Saturday. I thought he had a four game ban....
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Have to agree with Robins Stockport. Nothing else to add . Very disappointing
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We started brightly and they barely threatened till they scored. After that it was always an uphill battle as they were very solid if unspectacular. Williams in ahead of Harrop or Richman was not a choice I would have made though Max didn't last long when he came on! Decent first half by Ceesay. Not too many positives on a foul night.
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Hulme is on a four game ban. The last of which is on 23rd against Curzon Ashton. Started ok, poor after we conceded. Got to be a bit more assertive when we are chasing a game. We can not afford to drop many more points at home.
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We could have played till Friday and still not have scored
We are lacking flair at present
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I thought Max pulled up whist tracking back. I hope I am wrong.
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I thought Max pulled up whist tracking back. I hope I am wrong.
Yeah i thought i saw this too
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Bright start - young winger had a really decent first half
They just contained us and scored with there only two real chances - reckon we had 75% possession first half and a little less in the second. We could have played until midnight and not scored. Worrying lack of cutting edge upfront. Worse still due to injuries and suspensions, absolutely no plan B when things were clearly having no effect at two down
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Parkinson going down the Lee Sinnott route.of management.
Not willing to change formation
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Both goals came as a result of us losing possession at vital moments. The first essentially came about when Hannigan's first touch let him down from Drench's clearance and we failed to close down when they took quick advantage. The second came directly from Hancock's error.
OK, they were a well organised team who are playoff certainties at least - they could even win automatic promotion - but we didn't really ever look like scoring. JJ was totally ineffective, Pigott largely anonymous. Ceesay looked useful, but lacked an outlet for most of his good work.
However, the root of the problem for me is the amount of passing sideways or backwards. We inevitably allow opponents time to organise their defence well before we reach the final third. Unless we become essentially more direct, we won't progress.
We can still make the playoffs, but I don't see much prospect of winning them, since we'd inevitably have to beat one of Stockport, Chorley, or Spennymoor.
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I couldn't make it again last night so unable to comment on the game.
The one recurring comment that has been a constant throughout the season and gives me the greatest concern is the fact that we haven't a plan B.
Imo. This will be the one thing that prevents us progressing in this league.
I've said on numerous occasions when we play to our potential then not many teams can live with us, however when we don't we are merely average, this I'm afraid will make us short of a playoff spot.
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To be fair to JJ he was double marked for much of the second half. They knew where the threat would come from. Unfortunately for us, it's not from corners.
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Bright start but it was evident early on Spennymoor weren't giving much away. They were very calm and confident, and were happy to let Altrincham have the ball until it really mattered, and then they just mopped it all up. Their discipline was given away by the half time substitutes warm up. While Alty players had a kick about Spennymoor players went through training drills. Despite them containing at least three players who were clearly overweight they had a bit of pace. Their football is a bit boring (maybe this is just the way they play away) but I suppose if you keep winning who cares...
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You can have as many plans as you like, but if your best striker manages to get himself suspended for 1/5 of the season you're going to be at a considerable disadvantage. It's not the only factor, but it is a big one.
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Both goals came as a result of us losing possession at vital moments. The first essentially came about when Hannigan's first touch let him down from Drench's clearance and we failed to close down when they took quick advantage. The second came directly from Hancock's error.
OK, they were a well organised team who are playoff certainties at least - they could even win automatic promotion - but we didn't really ever look like scoring. JJ was totally ineffective, Pigott largely anonymous. Ceesay looked useful, but lacked an outlet for most of his good work.
However, the root of the problem for me is the amount of passing sideways or backwards. We inevitably allow opponents time to organise their defence well before we reach the final third. Unless we become essentially more direct, we won't progress.
We can still make the playoffs, but I don't see much prospect of winning them, since we'd inevitably have to beat one of Stockport, Chorley, or Spennymoor.
Spot on.
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Ceesay had a decent first half.
We were so slow going forward. Moult is looking very tired and slow again. As soon as he got on the ball they had all their players back in position.
JJ's final ball continues to be poor and it baffles me that he takes corners. On that note our set pieces are awful.
Again we looked tired and they had far more energy. I would consider Richman and Williams in the middle of the park for a couple of games or go to three in there until Jordan returns.
Hancock had his worst game but he has been class so he was due an off game.
Hannigan may have misplaced a touch for their first, I missed this, but he was by far our best player last night.
Again not sure what Fawes will bring to us. Just simply not good enough without Jordan and another winger of the Dale or Hemmings calibre.
Credit to Spennymoor who were far better than us. Pressed very high and had solid with energetic players. Very organised and weren't scared of putting in a decent tackle. They had far more in their tanks, I spotted our tiredness on Sat and it is a worry.
I have been watched the last two games from the stands and it is obvious how slow our build up play is. We need to move the ball a lot quicker, it was easy for them to get shape.
Problem we have is JJ takes a while to get in the right positions and young Piggott doesn't move towards the ball and it doesn't stick up top with him. Desperately need Jordan, no more reds please mate.
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We haven't been at it for a while now but still, we find ourselves in a good position to sneak the play-offs which we'd all have taken in our first season back here. Of course it's all down to our good run earlier in the season and I just hope we can re-find that form in time to keep pace with the sides around us, plenty of whom we've shown we can outplay.
Huge turnout at Curzon Ashton is required. Stick behind the lads. As a fan base we have a tendency to enjoy the spoils of the good runs and then go full-on Doomsday when we hit a slump, or perhaps that's just football fans in general. We know we're better than our form over the last few weeks, with or without a player of Dale or Hemmings' quality, so I'm still confident we have enough to up our game once again.
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We haven't been at it for a while now but still, we find ourselves in a good position to sneak the play-offs which we'd all have taken in our first season back here. Of course it's all down to our good run earlier in the season and I just hope we can re-find that form in time to keep pace with the sides around us, plenty of whom we've shown we can outplay.
Huge turnout at Curzon Ashton is required. Stick behind the lads. As a fan base we have a tendency to enjoy the spoils of the good runs and then go full-on Doomsday when we hit a slump, or perhaps that's just football fans in general. We know we're better than our form over the last few weeks, with or without a player of Dale or Hemmings' quality, so I'm still confident we have enough to up our game once again.
Spot on.
Will hopefully be there on crutches.
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We haven't been at it for a while now but still, we find ourselves in a good position to sneak the play-offs which we'd all have taken in our first season back here. Of course it's all down to our good run earlier in the season and I just hope we can re-find that form in time to keep pace with the sides around us, plenty of whom we've shown we can outplay.
Huge turnout at Curzon Ashton is required. Stick behind the lads. As a fan base we have a tendency to enjoy the spoils of the good runs and then go full-on Doomsday when we hit a slump, or perhaps that's just football fans in general. We know we're better than our form over the last few weeks, with or without a player of Dale or Hemmings' quality, so I'm still confident we have enough to up our game once again.
The forum comments after last night's game have been encouraging to read in one sense - we realise that on our day we can live with anyone in this league but recognise that with suspensions, injuries and a general loss of form, we're not at our best right now. Fans (of any club) can be quick to turn on a team that isn't firing on all cylinders but this team and management have earned our respect. We do need an an alternative plan though as other teams are getting wise to us. The excellent Alty TV highlights probably don't help our cause there but everyone is on video these days.
A quick word about the pitch... though the weather this winter hasn't been as bad as last season and we haven't played a game in conditions like the Witton game last year, the playing surface is looking much better than it did this time last season. Looking at videos of games at Moss Lane from last February it is clear there has been a big improvement so well done to the staff looking after the pitch.
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You can have as many plans as you like, but if your best striker manages to get himself suspended for 1/5 of the season you're going to be at a considerable disadvantage. It's not the only factor, but it is a big one.
We were poor before missing Jordan. We've also failed to replace Jordan.
Two up top might help out a bit.
Bringing in Cisse, Piggott the lad from. Curzon and Barrow can't have been cheap. So the money could have gone in bringing a striker from the league below on a more permenant deal.
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In my opinion and it's a very long shot we need to try and get dale or hemmings back.hemmings was sub last night
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As correctly commented above, the performances haven't been great for a while now. The passing last night was too slow and we weren't able to stretch their defence or turn any of their defenders, all the play was in front of them. Its a shame that the suspension of Jordan has also coincided with the dip in form of a number of players, notably Hampson, Harrop and JJ (all influential). We need to try and keep in in touch with the play-offs, get Jordan back and hope that James Poole can get fit for the run in. I think what the last few weeks have shown is that we have a very good starting 11 when everybody is fit, but lack squad depth.
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The performance vs Spennymoor was far more encouraging than BPA (which was dire), even though we got 1 less point.
There wasn't much between the 2 sides and we looked the better team for large parts of the game. First goal was probably key and we didn't get what looked like a clear penalty when Tom Hannigan was pushed over with a 2 handed shove in the back, seemed that the ref saw it and bottled it, so it would be interesting to see it back on Alty TV if possible.
They were more clinical in front of goal and put a couple of chances away, first one a belter although he should have been closed down for the shot.
Ceesay was impressive, especially in first half. Hope Jordan Hulme has learned his lesson by now when he is back...as Hulme, Ceesay and JJ should get us back in the goals.
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In my opinion and it's a very long shot we need to try and get dale or hemmings back.hemmings was sub last night
If I'm honest I only want to see them back at Alty on a permanent basis. There is no mileage in having both great players if after a month or so they go back to there respective clubs.
They come back on loan, we win 5 games on the bounce then they return to there club. Then we struggle again.
Sorry not for me, its all or nothing..
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I think what the last month has shown us is the standard required. We more than matched Chorley & Spenny for the first half of both games but ultimately ended up losing both comfortably. I did think before the season started we’d be an upper mid-table outfit and whilst we might scrape the play offs I’d be very surprised if we won them.
Frankly after all the ups and downs of the last few seasons starting August as a Conference North club is probably good for the management, squad and club. A summer to make the right tweaks and additons fo the squad. I think it will probably be a fairly open league again next season.
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I think what the last month has shown us is the standard required. We more than matched Chorley & Spenny for the first half of both games but ultimately ended up losing both comfortably. I did think before the season started we’d be an upper mid-table outfit and whilst we might scrape the play offs I’d be very surprised if we won them.
Frankly after all the ups and downs of the last few seasons starting August as a Conference North club is probably good for the management, squad and club. A summer to make the right tweaks and additons fo the squad. I think it will probably be a fairly open league again next season.
Realistic assessment.
Good post.
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Ceesay had a decent first half.
We were so slow going forward. Moult is looking very tired and slow again. As soon as he got on the ball they had all their players back in position.
JJ's final ball continues to be poor and it baffles me that he takes corners. On that note our set pieces are awful.
Again we looked tired and they had far more energy. I would consider Richman and Williams in the middle of the park for a couple of games or go to three in there until Jordan returns.
Hancock had his worst game but he has been class so he was due an off game.
Hannigan may have misplaced a touch for their first, I missed this, but he was by far our best player last night.
The heavy touch by Hannigan forced him to play it back to Drench rather than run out with the ball. So that was before the clearance from the keeper, not after it.
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I think what the last month has shown us is the standard required. We more than matched Chorley & Spenny for the first half of both games but ultimately ended up losing both comfortably. I did think before the season started we’d be an upper mid-table outfit and whilst we might scrape the play offs I’d be very surprised if we won them.
Frankly after all the ups and downs of the last few seasons starting August as a Conference North club is probably good for the management, squad and club. A summer to make the right tweaks and additons fo the squad. I think it will probably be a fairly open league again next season.
Sensible post; the only thing I'll add is that the management team are learning all the time too.
Similar to when they first came in, I hope they have their targets for the summer lined up nice and early (although not in a Neil Young signing Hattersley etc nice and early kinda way).
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I think what the last month has shown us is the standard required. We more than matched Chorley & Spenny for the first half of both games but ultimately ended up losing both comfortably. I did think before the season started we’d be an upper mid-table outfit and whilst we might scrape the play offs I’d be very surprised if we won them.
Frankly after all the ups and downs of the last few seasons starting August as a Conference North club is probably good for the management, squad and club. A summer to make the right tweaks and additons fo the squad. I think it will probably be a fairly open league again next season.
Realistic assessment.
Good post.
Aye, good post. Agreed.