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Title: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: robininstockport on February 13, 2019, 12:51:02 PM
Densmore at RB, White at LB and richman in for Williams are changes to the starting 11 I envisage.

Looks like BPA are trying to drop out of the playoffs so we should make it 4 out of 4!

Alty 2-0 BPA. Piggot Hancock.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: andrewflynn on February 13, 2019, 12:52:55 PM
I'll raise you the above and an extra goal, with a Johnston penalty adding the third.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: JD on February 13, 2019, 01:01:43 PM
I'd have Ceesay in.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: robininstockport on February 13, 2019, 01:16:05 PM
I'd have Ceesay in.

I've never seen him kick a ball, so I can't put him in
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 13, 2019, 01:43:53 PM
Alty - Evs
Draw - 13/5
BPA 2/1

I’d lump on before that changes because it will
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: oneedham on February 13, 2019, 01:46:18 PM
Densmore at RB, White at LB and richman in for Williams are changes to the starting 11 I envisage.

Looks like BPA are trying to drop out of the playoffs so we should make it 4 out of 4!

Alty 2-0 BPA. Piggot Hancock.

Agreed with team selection.

Would like an update on all our injuries and expected time scales.....gutted for Harrison.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 13, 2019, 01:46:21 PM
We’re 11/10 with bet victor!
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: cheshire cat on February 13, 2019, 03:41:45 PM
The pitch should be drying out nicely. Hopefully it will allow us to play our normal game.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on February 15, 2019, 05:14:02 PM
Slightly concerned about this game - the team will be re-organised due to last week's injuries and Jordan's continued suspension and as we have easily beaten BPA each time this season, there could be some complacency. Also there could be a strange atmosphere with all the non-football stuff going on. Hope I'm wrong but could be tough getting the 3 points tomorrow
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: roytonmike on February 15, 2019, 05:25:41 PM
Slightly concerned about this game - the team will be re-organised due to last week's injuries and Jordan's continued suspension and as we have easily beaten BPA each time this season, there could be some complacency. Also there could be a strange atmosphere with all the non-football stuff going on. Hope I'm wrong but could be tough getting the 3 points tomorrow
I share this concern, and the hope that I'm wrong to do so ...
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 15, 2019, 05:47:59 PM
There must be no complacency and 100% focus, regardless of what else is going on. This is a season defining fortnight starting tomorrow. An absolute key four fixtures seeing what other fixtures are taking place.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Jezza on February 15, 2019, 06:40:22 PM
We have to build some momenntum and pattern so we hit the play offs as a form team.

If we've signed a left winger lets play him and get him settled in as soon as possible..

Our best form has been with richman in midfield.

I'd also like to see jake play a little further forward allowing hancock more freedom....the defence should really take care of itself with dens and white full backs.

Lets get the ball to the wingers and give two strikers a bit of service...
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Old Alt on February 16, 2019, 07:49:32 AM
There must be no complacency and 100% focus, regardless of what else is going on. This is a season defining fortnight starting tomorrow. An absolute key four fixtures seeing what other fixtures are taking place.

Looking at the table and fixtures, there is no margin for error over the next few weeks. Today is a real opportunity, if you look at the form guide over 6 matches, they are bottom, this is a real chance for us.
Also looking at the form Curzon Ashton are on a great run, so next week will be a difficult match, all the more reason to bag the points today.

Still don't think we played well last week and we were lucky to win. Hopefully if PP can organise the team for today without the various injuries and team changes we saw last week.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 16, 2019, 11:06:30 AM
the defence should really take care of itself with dens and white full backs.



Dens wasn't on the bench last week - I hope it wasn't a fitness issue
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Nom de plume on February 16, 2019, 11:18:52 AM
the defence should really take care of itself with dens and white full backs.



Dens wasn't on the bench last week - I hope it wasn't a fitness issue
He was in the stand with Luca Havern and the Boshells, amongst others.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: andrewflynn on February 16, 2019, 12:23:25 PM
I expect Dens to start today. He’s match fit, sure PP said so in his interview.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: robininstockport on February 16, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
Should be a good match up, Densmore v Clee
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: oneedham on February 16, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
Should be a good match up, Densmore v Clee

White has done well this season but I actually would prefer Dens against Clee. He will stay tighter.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Steve from Sale on February 16, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
I imagine White will be left-back today, due to Connor's injured hand.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Jezza on February 16, 2019, 04:58:32 PM
That was awful.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Alty Bri on February 16, 2019, 05:03:27 PM
Worst game I've seen in ages. Was it 5th v 7th? Christ. The referee definitely came to the right game.

Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: oneedham on February 16, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
Poor game.

Completely lost our shape when Piggott went off.  He wasn't great but our shape went with that sub.

Fawes looks unfit and I am not sure he is what we need when we have Hancock and Poole. Reminds me of Sam Sheridan in his brief appearance.

JJ was rightly subbed, very poor game for him. You could see his head wasn't in it today. Please take him off corners, his final ball is poor. Still love the lad though.

We need to push our full backs forward. We played into their hands second half and sat back. We invited their pressure and it was a terrible goal to concede.

Their number 4 was very very good. I think it was Hurst, I would keep an eye on him.

They also looked fitter than us which is worrying at this stage of the season.

Not many positives at all.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Hale Alty on February 16, 2019, 05:30:42 PM
I don't know if Connor Hampson had been told not to get forward today but he barely attempted one run, so I only guess we were trying to stay tight at the back. Having said that Shaun Densmore got forward a lot on the other side.

Maybe its just what I wanted to think was happening, but it seemed to me the defence was more confident with Steve Drench in goal.

Max is not a winger, Joe Piggott is not the centre forward we need. Did he have a good game? Well he was man of the match, so he must have, but it might have been nice if he'd got on the ball a few times. His kit gave the impression he needs to lose some weight, which might explain his rate of acceleration.

The new guys need to bed in rapidly or we are going to struggle.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on February 16, 2019, 05:48:02 PM
A disjointed performance. Too many looked off the pace or out of sorts today. Neither side created much but I'd say a draw was a fair result.

I thought Piggott did ok and set the goal up well. He's a young lad learning his trade so we can't expect him to lead the line like Jordan Hulme. I liked his energy but of course we need more than that.

Nicky Clee had a good game for them at right back and JJ and Max both struggled against him.

Max is far better in the middle of the park. I would have taken him off today rather than JJ who is always a threat because of his pace, even when he's having a bad game.

Can't say I found Drench particularly dominant or inspiring in goal - flapped at a few crosses/tame shots.

Today's game pretty much went as I expected to be honest. 3 points on Tuesday now even more important.



Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Hash on February 16, 2019, 05:51:41 PM
I thought our defence had to work over time today as they ran straight through the midfield , hannigan was my motm .... clee schooled harrop when he went against him , wound him up got him booked then showed what he can do by creating the equaliser ceesay,jj, harrop and hancock (who was very lucky to stay on the pitch ) could have been subbed even the sub himself they were that bad , agree with the post above there number 4 was excellent
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: JD on February 16, 2019, 06:03:11 PM
How did Richman play today? I was pleased to see him in the team, but didn't hear his name much on the commentary.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 16, 2019, 06:10:39 PM
We were so poor we made the ref look almost competent.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: robininstockport on February 16, 2019, 06:22:24 PM
Got what we deserved, just about.
 
Woeful first half with the exception of the goal which was very good. Much better 2nd half until Piggot went off. Don't think either keeper made a save.

How Hampson stayed on when White was on the bench is beyond me.  Clee was mom as JJ got nothing out of him and created the goal.

Most disappointing thing was their poxed up goal.

Good coverage though
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Jezza on February 16, 2019, 06:24:53 PM
The defence played well richman was completely bypassed in midfield max was innefective....

anyone who said clee would be a backward step and doesn't think he would have improved our side is just being stubborn.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: oneedham on February 16, 2019, 06:36:33 PM
The defence played well richman was completely bypassed in midfield max was innefective....

anyone who said clee would be a backward step and doesn't think he would have improved our side is just being stubborn.

Agreed. Clee was brilliant all game. Such an intelligent and strong player.

I would defo look into it.

Havern is still quality aswell.

Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 16, 2019, 06:56:23 PM
The defence played well richman was completely bypassed in midfield max was innefective....

anyone who said clee would be a backward step and doesn't think he would have improved our side is just being stubborn.

Agreed. Clee was brilliant all game. Such an intelligent and strong player.

I would defo look into it.

Havern is still quality aswell.



He was a passenger in the previous 3 games
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: cheshire cat on February 16, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
I thought Piggott managed to hold the ball up well at times without getting on the ref's radar. JJ was just getting into his stride when he was subbed. Dens had a good game but Richman was anonymous. Clee was MOM and a draw was a fair result.  I was disappointed in the end and we've had far worse referees.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 16, 2019, 07:01:42 PM
The defence played well richman was completely bypassed in midfield max was innefective....

anyone who said clee would be a backward step and doesn't think he would have improved our side is just being stubborn.

Agreed. Clee was brilliant all game. Such an intelligent and strong player.

I would defo look into it.

Havern is still quality aswell.



He was a passenger in the previous 3 games

I was going to say. A side who we’ve beaten 3 times and drawn the other. I wouldn’t get too excited about signing all their players.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Alty Bri on February 16, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Piggot's through ball for our goal was the only moment of quality in the game.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Mick on February 16, 2019, 07:37:42 PM
Poor game with little quality

We gave them the ball back when we had a chance to create an attack more times than I can remember - I thought we also lacked any cutting edge upfront today

Hard to pick our MotM
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 16, 2019, 07:51:53 PM
Dreadful game, both teams looked like they were wading through treacle, like they'd been on the lash the night before. The best way to describe it is that both teams seemed to be second to the loose ball - and that shouldn't even make sense.

I don't understand why history has remembered Clee so fondly, and not Luca. The latter was a monster for us for 90% of the time he was with us. Worth remembering most wanted to turf Moult and Richman at the same time as well.

Their number 4 might have wound me up with his squad number (as I'm a traditionalist) but he was the only one that caught my eye - mainly because he was the only one that didn't play like he had 2 bags of cement strapped to his feet.

Ref was decent actually - very sensible and could easily have booked Max for his bad tackle on the halfway line and sent Josh off.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: robininstockport on February 16, 2019, 08:14:34 PM
If you think the ref was decent I despair. Thank God he had no big decisions to make.

He was f**king dreadful for 90 minutes for both teams
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 16, 2019, 08:28:34 PM
I don't think refs can win these days to be honest.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: robininstockport on February 16, 2019, 08:50:28 PM
They don't have to win just be consistent
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: cheshire cat on February 16, 2019, 09:22:17 PM
Dreadful game, both teams looked like they were wading through treacle, like they'd been on the lash the night before. The best way to describe it is that both teams seemed to be second to the loose ball - and that shouldn't even make sense.

I don't understand why history has remembered Clee so fondly, and not Luca. The latter was a monster for us for 90% of the time he was with us. Worth remembering most wanted to turf Moult and Richman at the same time as well.

Their number 4 might have wound me up with his squad number (as I'm a traditionalist) but he was the only one that caught my eye - mainly because he was the only one that didn't play like he had 2 bags of cement strapped to his feet.

Ref was decent actually - very sensible and could easily have booked Max for his bad tackle on the halfway line and sent Josh off.

Luca played OK today. I looked out for him. In the other games I didn't notice he was on the pitch. I don't blame him for our decline. He was injured for much of the season and had no say.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: buchanj9 on February 16, 2019, 09:37:34 PM
We just can’t seem to see out games. We got lucky last week after letting FC back into the game, but we didn’t get as lucky this week.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Mick on February 16, 2019, 11:07:59 PM
They don't have to win just be consistent

Agree - he has been ok in the past, but today was awarding free kicks for something and then 30 seconds later waving play on for the exact same. Inconsistent with his bookings and warnings also
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on February 16, 2019, 11:17:13 PM
As per previous comments it was a really poor game, particularly disappointing when there was probably an extra 300/400  on the gate. Sort of match which highlighted the presence that Hulme gives us upfront. Piggott did ok but there were a couple of times when he was looking for free kicks too much rather than setting something up. Although BPA didn't create alot despite all their possession, the only surprise for me was it took them so long to eventually equalise. Going to have to raise our game to get anything v Spennymoor on Tuesday.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Old Alt on February 17, 2019, 08:13:48 AM
I think the concern is in the last few games Chorley (second half), FC United and now BPA, we have not been at our best.
In all the games, we had very little possession, and the match was played in our own half. The problem is in midfield, we can’t hold the ball or pass it around. The other issue yesterday was the difference off the ball, as soon as we picked it up Bradford pressed and closed us down, we gave them so much space.
Whilst we have got away with results in the last couple of games, Bradford were on a terrible run, FC United not much better, so when we play Spennymoor, we seriously need to up our game.
In terms of the match, why we took JJ off, when he was our only outlet going forward is beyond me. Also when he was substituted he walked straight past the manager, no handshake no thanks, they just ignored each other. Not a good sign.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: distancetraveller on February 17, 2019, 10:05:07 AM
What was the attendance yesterday? (Couldn't make the game)
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: oneedham on February 17, 2019, 10:18:07 AM
I think the concern is in the last few games Chorley (second half), FC United and now BPA, we have not been at our best.
In all the games, we had very little possession, and the match was played in our own half. The problem is in midfield, we can’t hold the ball or pass it around. The other issue yesterday was the difference off the ball, as soon as we picked it up Bradford pressed and closed us down, we gave them so much space.
Whilst we have got away with results in the last couple of games, Bradford were on a terrible run, FC United not much better, so when we play Spennymoor, we seriously need to up our game.
In terms of the match, why we took JJ off, when he was our only outlet going forward is beyond me. Also when he was substituted he walked straight past the manager, no handshake no thanks, they just ignored each other. Not a good sign.

Tying to make a mountain out of a mole hill about JJ. I watched it from the stands yesterday and for the record I love JJ but he looked lathergic and not at all interested off the ball.

Clee pretty much had him in his pocket, much stronger . It was going to to be either Max or JJ for Ceesay and Max was looking and getting the ball more often than JJ. Albeit Max didn't produce much all game.

JJ was just gutted to come off but it was not long after 3 rather poor crosses. He was gutted to be subbed which was great to see. He only slightly huffed and puffed. No issues at all.

The whole team looked lathergic and it was clear from my view in the stands that we were stood off them too much. We allowed players like Hurst, their 7 and 11 to play.

I agree we still need that midfielder who can calmly put a foot on the ball and pass. Moult and Richman panicked a lot yesterday and did wayward passes. Hurst looked like a midfielder we need, energetic, calm and good passer of the ball. Fawes looks like a player we don't need but maybe too early to say.

Our tempo needs upping on Tuesday. We need both full backs bobbing on, we need to improve setpieces. Let Hampson swing crosses in and not JJ. We need to be more direct in wing play, get at them and beat the fullback. You could see yesterday that we need to up our fitness levels as we looked leggy second half.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Alty Bri on February 17, 2019, 10:57:13 AM
The bottom line is that we were a very dangerous opposition, before Owen Dale returned to Crewe to be an unused sub and Jordan Hulme needlessly got himself sent off a few times. Now, we are a midtable team. Harsh but true.

Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 17, 2019, 11:03:17 AM
The bottom line is that we were a very dangerous opposition, before Owen Dale returned to Crewe to be an unused sub and Jordan Hulme needlessly got himself sent off a few times. Now, we are a midtable team. Harsh but true.

I agree
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: oneedham on February 17, 2019, 11:03:50 AM
The bottom line is that we were a very dangerous opposition, before Owen Dale returned to Crewe to be an unused sub and Jordan Hulme needlessly got himself sent off a few times. Now, we are a midtable team. Harsh but true.



Very true. JJ and Owen were getting at teams. Fullbacks were higher and we miss Jordan every minute of the 90,  it sticks up top with him. He needs to lose his back chat to the refs. We need him so badly for the run in.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: andrewflynn on February 17, 2019, 11:10:40 AM
Tuesday night will set the tone for the rest of the season. Nervous for it.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Bob on February 17, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
What was the attendance yesterday? (Couldn't make the game)

1328
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: beaker141 on February 17, 2019, 01:41:08 PM
What was the attendance yesterday? (Couldn't make the game)

1328

Probably +another 200 press !
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 17, 2019, 03:33:23 PM
In terms of the match, why we took JJ off, when he was our only outlet going forward is beyond me. Also when he was substituted he walked straight past the manager, no handshake no thanks, they just ignored each other. Not a good sign.

I think it's quite important to correct you here - whilst he certainly looked unhappy, he did shake his manager's hand in the usual way.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: distancetraveller on February 17, 2019, 04:17:58 PM
What was the attendance yesterday? (Couldn't make the game)

1328

Thanks.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Alty Dave on February 17, 2019, 05:14:49 PM
How poor was the bench yesterday. It's a concern. An injured Poole, white (injured) l sum use. Two new untried players and Thompson.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 18, 2019, 09:21:49 AM
A fully fit James Poole, with the quality he brings, would be the difference in these types of games - Josh can't do it all on his own.

Hulme's temperament might end up being the difference between him being a professional footballer or not.
Title: Re: BPA Match Thread (part 4)
Post by: Toff Apple on February 18, 2019, 10:00:47 AM
The issue for me is that BPA pushed on their two wing backs and prevented ours getting forwards, should have been ripe for a longer ball over the top but we didnt have the pace to do this up front