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Title: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 05:22:08 PM
I don't care for his second half save. The lad is full of mistakes.

I watched the first half from the side he should have been off his line for their goal a lot quicker. He's like a tank. Sick of mentioning his poor kicking or even worst...air kicking.

What must Wynne think? I am a fan of PP but he has become stubborn with him Thompson.

Let's just use Hinchliffe as an example , I have seen 3 of the 4 games against Stockport this season and he doesn't put a foot wrong.

A keeper is a vital position to have someone reliable and decent. It gives the defence confidence.

Defo need to look into another wide man as Mantack is most definately not the answer. Would be amazing to have either Dale or Hemmings. We need a player of their mould. Mantack is lightweight, poor confidence and has awful distribution. Plus we need JJ on the right in this league to open the middle of the park up.

We need some sort of backup to Jordan. Maybe a winger who can play wide or upfront.

For now we must go with Wynne and maybe Harrop out wide left.

Stockport are well drilled and organised. Their right back is very good, every game he has been their best player. They were much stronger than us, even though they spent a lot of the game on the turf.

We need a result and quickly.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: AFC56 on January 01, 2019, 05:30:02 PM
Good post , agree with that. The Thompson situation is becoming a bit of a joke to be honest. I appreciate that Parky is wanting his team to play out from the back but we are over doing the sideways and backwards passes.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 05:32:01 PM
Good post , agree with that. The Thompson situation is becoming a bit of a joke to be honest. I appreciate that Parky is wanting his team to play out from the back but we are over doing the sideways and backwards passes.

I enjoy us playing from the back when we are comfortable but we need to mix it up. As my bro said we looked more dangerous going long in the second half.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: wayno on January 01, 2019, 05:32:20 PM
1 shot on target all game . Depressing that
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Jezza on January 01, 2019, 05:46:31 PM
Poor recruitment close season...
Thommo did make amends with a good save.
But i dont think parky can tell the difference in quality needed at this level...which isnt actually that much..
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Alty Bri on January 01, 2019, 05:54:45 PM
I like TT but he really should have been given a rest from about 3 games ago.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 05:56:41 PM
Poor recruitment close season...
Thommo did make amends with a good save.
But i dont think parky can tell the difference in quality needed at this level...which isnt actually that much..

Just far too many mistakes for a keeper. Rubbish at decision making and does at least a couple of mistakes each game. Gives the ball back to the other team so often by his terrible distribution.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: wayno on January 01, 2019, 06:13:26 PM
We cant just blame the keeper . 1 shot all game 1 . Awful
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on January 01, 2019, 06:21:22 PM
Thompson is nowhere near good enough for this league. His shot stopping is quite good but he doesn’t command his box at all,is poor on crosses and his kicking is dreadful. I thought overall today Stockport were a country mile better than us and look a decent well organised outfit. Alty on the other hand lacked creativity and wouldn’t have scored if we’d played til midnight!
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Alty Bri on January 01, 2019, 06:21:45 PM
It was the tiniest of tiniest hesitations today, but it gave their striker just enough time to reach the ball first for their goal. No hesitations whatsoever from their superb keeper Hinchcliffe. It must be a dream for the defence to know he is behind them.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: jhcorbett on January 01, 2019, 06:29:24 PM
Hinchcliffe hasn't had too much to do against us in the last 2 games to be honest. But was he has had to do he's looked solid in doing.

To be fair to Tony T he made a couple of good saves and has had some shocking back passes to deal with in recent games - the pass from Jones today for his air shot was plain daft.

Agree that Wynne's chance in net is long overdue now though.

Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 01, 2019, 07:30:27 PM
Hinchcliffe hasn't had too much to do against us in the last 2 games to be honest. But was he has had to do he's looked solid in doing.

To be fair to Tony T he made a couple of good saves and has had some shocking back passes to deal with in recent games - the pass from Jones today for his air shot was plain daft.

Agree that Wynne's chance in net is long overdue now though.



One of those good saves wouldn't have been necessary if he'd done his job properly with the original cross. His positioning today was dreadful.

Mantack would struggle in the league below - losing Hemmings so soon is a massive loss.

Sang was a little better than at Guiseley and may yet turn out OK. Richman would have been my choice for MOM.

No complaints, best side won. If we make the playoffs - and there's no reason why we shouldn't - we have to hope that County win the League. If we have to play them again, we're at a tremendous psychological disadvantage.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Matt Taylor on January 01, 2019, 07:42:08 PM
Thompson always felt like a bit of sentimental contract offer in the summer, and unfortunately it’s turned out that way. But did anyone really see anything in Wynn earlier in the season to suggest that he was any better? I’m not sure I did.

What you need at this level, to be a play-off side, is one higher-calibre first choice keeper that everyone has confidence in, and one bench warmer to balance the budget. What we’ve got instead is 2 keepers of similar (average) standard. Neither of which would get into the first team of another top half Conf North side.

Wouldn’t argue with anyone else who wants to swap them round and give Wynn a run in the side. But I’m just not sure how much difference it’s really going to make.

Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 07:45:36 PM
Thompson always felt like a bit of sentimental contract offer in the summer, and unfortunately it’s turned out that way. But did anyone really see anything in Wynn earlier in the season to suggest that he was any better? I’m not sure I did.

What you need at this level, to be a play-off side, is one higher-calibre first choice keeper that everyone has confidence in, and one bench warmer to balance the budget. What we’ve got instead is 2 keepers of similar (average) standard. Neither of which would get into the first team of another top half Conf North side.

Wouldn’t argue with anyone else who wants to swap them round and give Wynn a run in the side. But I’m just not sure how much difference it’s really going to make.



100% agree, we need a new keeper. It is vital.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: cheshire cat on January 01, 2019, 07:46:48 PM
I'd agree with One foot in the grave. Thompson isn't the reason we lost today but we need to be more solid at the back. Haven't seen enough of Wynne to judge.  Mantek though was lightweight today. Massive gulf between him and Dale. Dale got a game today so not much chance of getting him back.

I thought Stockport were far more savvy about playing the referee AGAIN!
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 07:48:59 PM
Hinchcliffe hasn't had too much to do against us in the last 2 games to be honest. But was he has had to do he's looked solid in doing.

To be fair to Tony T he made a couple of good saves and has had some shocking back passes to deal with in recent games - the pass from Jones today for his air shot was plain daft.

Agree that Wynne's chance in net is long overdue now though.



One of those good saves wouldn't have been necessary if he'd done his job properly with the original cross. His positioning today was dreadful.

Mantack would struggle in the league below - losing Hemmings so soon is a massive loss.

Sang was a little better than at Guiseley and may yet turn out OK. Richman would have been my choice for MOM.

No complaints, best side won. If we make the playoffs - and there's no reason why we shouldn't - we have to hope that County win the League. If we have to play them again, we're at a tremendous psychological disadvantage.

Richman was the only one giving his all in the first half. Can't fault Hampson or Richman today.

Hulme was a yard off the pace and that's due to his red card and being out for 3 games. That trophy game has haunted us for many reasons.

Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2019, 07:49:13 PM
Agree with a lot said here - but today it was obvious after 15 mins that we would not break them down - very well organised defensively (against us anyway)

Problem today for me was lack of alternative options to change the game

Cannot help thinking the crowd today was quiet because we knew the script

Hope they win it because no point meeting them in the playoffs - they have our number
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 07:52:05 PM
Agree with a lot said here - but today it was obvious after 15 mins that we would not break them down - very well organised defensively (against us anyway)

Problem today for me was lack of alternative options to change the game

Cannot help thinking the crowd today was quiet because we knew the script

Agreed - hope they win it because no point meeting them in the playoffs - they have our number
 

Yeah atmosphere was flat. I hate those metal sheets attached to the back of the stand that people bang like monkeys and drown out any attempted song singing. Worst than a bloody drum.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Sarf London Alty on January 01, 2019, 08:09:14 PM
I think us getting to 3rd after Telford hasn’t helped in some respects. I had us down for a solid mid-table finish pre-season and I still expect us to get that but clearly expectations have been raised in recent weeks and we’ve not responded. January’s fixture list looks very tough too so suspect we might have to take a few more defeats before things perk up again.

Let’s not forget either that PP and NS have never managed at this level before either so it will be a learning curve for them against a far more experienced manager in Gannon. Hopefully ahead of Chorley, if not Boston we can also bring in a replacement for Dale/Hemmings, clearly Mantack is not good enough for this level.

Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: distancetraveller on January 01, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
I said last season that we need to replace TT.  It was his fault he had an air kick not the bloke who passed it back to him.
Agree with others that we need a striker to help Hulme. Oh for an Andy Green...

Manteck is not good enough let's hope we can get Dale  back for a while

Far to much passing back and fannying around along the back line it's like Jose is running the show.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on January 01, 2019, 08:18:36 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Mantack tbh. There's no lack of effort there,he's just not good enough. If the manager picks him he can only do his best.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on January 01, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
Yes Stockport played the ref well, but what is frustrating is that it is so obvious what they were doing , yet the ref fall for it too many times. We have Jordan Hulme who at times is also happy to hit the deck and feign being hurt, and today actually pretended he had a head injury when we were attacking , leading to the ref stopping the game as we put a ball into their box. He then gets up as soon as the trainer gets to him, unbelievable. Just wish he would cut out the theatricals and just get on with the game,


Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2019, 09:08:52 PM
Yes Stockport played the ref well, but what is frustrating is that it is so obvious what they were doing , yet the ref fall for it too many times. We have Jordan Hulme who at times is also happy to hit the deck and feign being hurt, and today actually pretended he had a head injury when we were attacking , leading to the ref stopping the game as we put a ball into their box. He then gets up as soon as the trainer gets to him, unbelievable. Just wish he would cut out the theatricals and just get on with the game,

Wow
Jordan is nomally as hard as nails - no way he would be codding it in the penalty area like that

Ref has to stop it and despite my incensed shouts at the time - that is the rules

Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Sale Holmfield on January 01, 2019, 09:22:58 PM
A lot of good points on here. I would just add that Kallum Mantack is still a young player so, apart from the odd exception like Dale or Watmore, it's unrealistic and unfair to expect him to stand out in a game while he is essentially still learning.

My hopes and ambitions at the start of the season were for the top half and, just maybe, sneaking into the playoffs. I think that holds true, but that run in the autumn probably did give us false expectations.


Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
A lot of good points on here. I would just add that Kallum Mantack is still a young player so, apart from the odd exception like Dale or Watmore, it's unrealistic and unfair to expect him to stand out in a game while he is essentially still learning.

My hopes and ambitions at the start of the season were for the top half and, just maybe, sneaking into the playoffs. I think that holds true, but that run in the autumn probably did give us false expectations.





Young but still not good enough.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: wayno on January 01, 2019, 10:11:08 PM
1 shot ... 1 we could still be playing now and not have scored yet
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2019, 10:16:04 PM
1 shot ... 1 we could still be playing now and not have scored yet

That's why we need decent wide players left and right to create chances. 

Wasn't good enough today. I just feel we could have given a lot more in the first half. They were on it from the first whistle.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: oneedham on January 27, 2019, 11:39:37 AM
Still need a keeper and it should still be priority. Need another striker because that will be 7 games without Hulme just from red cards. I would like us to approach Coburn for goalkeeper coach.
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: Alty Bri on January 27, 2019, 01:04:06 PM
Agree completely but I just can't see PP doing anything about it. He has set his stall (mistakenly in my view) by TT. I just can't see him climbing down on this one. Given the volume of goals conceded recently it is more likely he will recall Ben for James Jones. Is there any more money for a loan striker?
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: cheshire cat on January 27, 2019, 02:06:29 PM
Still need a keeper and it should still be priority. Need another striker because that will be 7 games without Hulme just from red cards. I would like us to approach Coburn for goalkeeper coach.

Didn't he get suspended for five yellows early on as well?
Title: Re: Thompson, winger and forward
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 27, 2019, 06:55:54 PM
Still need a keeper and it should still be priority. Need another striker because that will be 7 games without Hulme just from red cards. I would like us to approach Coburn for goalkeeper coach.

Didn't he get suspended for five yellows early on as well?



He was suspended for the 2-0 home defeat against Curzon Ashton (only our ninth game of the season) back in September.