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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on December 30, 2018, 09:42:41 AM
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Really important to get three points on home soil going in to the new year. Hoping to see Hulme and white back in the team, we’ve missed them both. Rumours of a flu bug in the stockport camp enforcing a couple of changes for them in their victory yesterday. Should be a good atmosphere with it being the biggest New Year’s Day game locally.
Altrincham 2-1 Stockport
Hulme
Hancock
Att 3,081
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I'd advise Alty to have more than one cash turnstile, County fans turning up late from the pub will go in the turnstile with the shortest queues, there'll be no malicious intent but I've seen it at most segregated games at this level.
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Hopefully we will get something from this game. Time for Wynne and Hulme. Large crowd
Come on Alty
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I'd advise Alty to have more than one cash turnstile, County fans turning up late from the pub will go in the turnstile with the shortest queues, there'll be no malicious intent but I've seen it at most segregated games at this level.
Think We’ll go with the advice from the GMP team on duty to be honest. Don’t turn up at 2:59 if your paying on the day and want to see the actual kick off would be the best advice, like at any association football match. We only had two turnstiles on Boxing Day, nobody that walked up from the pubs at 2:50 decided to go in The Cheadle end rather than que up. It’s not the done thing really is it.
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I'd advise Alty to have more than one cash turnstile, County fans turning up late from the pub will go in the turnstile with the shortest queues, there'll be no malicious intent but I've seen it at most segregated games at this level.
Tough really isn’t it.
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Hulme in for Sang will be the only change
Alty 0-1 Stockport
Attn 3008
Post match comments will consist of, 'What has Wynne done wrong', 'How long before White and Poole are back' and 'That ref was shocking'
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Alty 0 County 2 , we have loads of possession but again can't score against them and lose again to our latest bogey team.2952, more county fans than Alty fans .
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Not so sure about it being 'the final Stockport match thread' though - there's always the play-offs...!
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Let's start the Year off with 3 points. Probably our biggest gate of the season.
Haven't been to a Stockport game this year. Will be at this one.
Alty 2 - 1 Stockport
Att 3874.
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Alty 10/11
Draw 12/5
Stockport 23/10
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Alty 10/11
Draw 12/5
Stockport 23/10
Odds on?! Wow.
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Alty 10/11
Draw 12/5
Stockport 23/10
Odds on?! Wow.
Must be down to recent home form in the league
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Probably got wind that they’ve an alleged flu bug in the camp, bookies aren’t daft these days after the Weymouth debacle
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We could very very easily meet them again in the play offs. I think if we score, we'll nail them, but then again, we've been there before...
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I'd advise Alty to have more than one cash turnstile, County fans turning up late from the pub will go in the turnstile with the shortest queues, there'll be no malicious intent but I've seen it at most segregated games at this level.
Think We’ll go with the advice from the GMP team on duty to be honest. Don’t turn up at 2:59 if your paying on the day and want to see the actual kick off would be the best advice, like at any association football match. We only had two turnstiles on Boxing Day, nobody that walked up from the pubs at 2:50 decided to go in The Cheadle end rather than que up. It’s not the done thing really is it.
Just trying to be helpful as I've seen it at most games where people turn up and see the queue so decide to go in the home end, done thing or not, there was between 500 and 600 of you at our place so there would have been no advantage in joining a longer queue.
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Do you not think there will be ques at the home end ten minutes before kickoff for our first Christmas home game against the team directly above us in the table from ten minutes down the road? Or are we not allowed a pint before hand?
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There were big queues outside the home end turnstiles against fcum earlier in the season ten minutes before kick off .We could be under estimating how many city and united alty based fans might turn up on Tuesday as neither are playing .
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I hope every county fan standing on the terraces designated as the home end are ejected.
If we are kind enough to let them have family stand and the pop side third we should tolerate nothing else.
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We will need ALL turnstiles open.
Pre poured pints and bottle bar open.
I think we will win but will need every player switched on.
Wynne and Hulme in.
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We will need ALL turnstiles open.
Pre poured pints and bottle bar open.
I think we will win but will need every player switched on.
Wynne and Hulme in.
Ideally the turnstiles at the corner of the golf road and popular side should open
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We are the most accomodating club in the country so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see numerous County fans in the home end and absolutely nothing at all done about it.
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We have, thus far, established and maintained a healthy rivalry with Stockport minus any unpleasantness (as far as I am aware, that is). It would consider it a shame were that to alter, and as mentioned by others on here already, it is imperative that fans, both home and away, enter by the correct turnstile. I trust both clubs will feel the same and will be keen to administer the arrangements necessary.
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There's been no unpleasantness at any of our fixtures and I'd be very surprised if any Alty fans had felt threatened in any way in our previous meetings, my intervention was well intentioned and I was trying to put forward a simple solution to what could be a problem.
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We will need ALL turnstiles open.
Pre poured pints and bottle bar open.
I think we will win but will need every player switched on.
Wynne and Hulme in.
Ideally the turnstiles at the corner of the golf road and popular side should open
But are there people available to give up their time to be on every turnstile.
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We will need ALL turnstiles open.
Pre poured pints and bottle bar open.
I think we will win but will need every player switched on.
Wynne and Hulme in.
Ideally the turnstiles at the corner of the golf road and popular side should open
But are there people available to give up their time to be on every turnstile.
Very true that's what I meant by ideally
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Do you not think there will be ques at the home end ten minutes before kickoff for our first Christmas home game against the team directly above us in the table from ten minutes down the road? Or are we not allowed a pint before hand?
Exactly this. Stockport fans seem to think we are some tinpot outfit and the whole match arrangements should be built around their away support who had 2 home games to buy tickets and now want to stay in the pub until 2:58 and then get in just like that. There are going to be 1500 odd home fans tomorrrow too who should be the first priority and rightly so. They gave us 2 turnstiles for 600 people on Boxing Day and no-one went and sat in the Cheadle End because it took too long to get in, a very entitled bunch.
As for the actual game, by hook or crook we need to open the scoring and then see what Stockport have got. They are too well-drilled once they get a lead. Hulme will be back and we need everyone on it.
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Do you not think there will be ques at the home end ten minutes before kickoff for our first Christmas home game against the team directly above us in the table from ten minutes down the road? Or are we not allowed a pint before hand?
Exactly this. Stockport fans seem to think we are some tinpot outfit and the whole match arrangements should be built around their away support who had 2 home games to buy tickets and now want to stay in the pub until 2:58 and then get in just like that. There are going to be 1500 odd home fans tomorrrow too who should be the first priority and rightly so. They gave us 2 turnstiles for 600 people on Boxing Day and no-one went and sat in the Cheadle End because it took too long to get in, a very entitled bunch.
As for the actual game, by hook or crook we need to open the scoring and then see what Stockport have got. They are too well-drilled once they get a lead. Hulme will be back and we need everyone on it.
Excellent posts.
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Perceptions in football are funny.
Trip to Barnet average gate 1,213 in the national league premier treated as a proper fixture and all buy advanced tickets and go in the correct stands.
Trip to Altrincham average gate 1,119 playing in a lower league treated as a kick about in a field somewhere, bring a picnic and sit where you want
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There's been no unpleasantness at any of our fixtures and I'd be very surprised if any Alty fans had felt threatened in any way in our previous meetings, my intervention was well intentioned and I was trying to put forward a simple solution to what could be a problem.
Best wishes for 2019. I have always been impressed by how open and friendly County fans are, especially as they are long suffering and seem to have put up with years of disappointments.
It would be great if both Alty and Stockport could go up this coming year !
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Best wishes to you too Pukka, County to win the league and Alty to win the play offs would be perfect.
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Best wishes to you too Pukka, County to win the league and Alty to win the play offs would be perfect.
Naah, the other way round mate :D
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Best wishes to you too Pukka, County to win the league and Alty to win the play offs would be perfect.
Naah, the other way round mate :D
Doesn't matter either way
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I've got a feeling stockport have got us in there pocket yet again
How ever it will be worth a walk to the pub to have a glass with the county fans
Hic
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Best wishes to you too Pukka, County to win the league and Alty to win the play offs would be perfect.
Naah, the other way round mate :D
Doesn't matter either way
Yes it does - there's £320 coming my way if we actually win it.
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No Hemmings...injured?...throwing up still?...
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Just seen on twitter hemmings returns to fylde...
Bugger...
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One nil down.
Carbon copy of every game so far against this side.
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Grim listening on RR, sounds like Stockport are all over us and appear to have had about 500 corners. Only surprise is it’s not more at HT.
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Utterly appalling and clueless
2 points from 4 games.
Sort it out parky
If our unambitious clueless chairman lets you.
Rowley out.
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I thought we were the better side but I was biting my nails at the end, well done on the organisation as well.
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I thought we were the better side but I was biting my nails at the end, well done on the organisation as well.
Credit to County again, 4 wins and none conceded. Deserved the win, although you should really with 12 on your side ;)
A well organised side though, did what you needed to against us, stay solid, keep a clean sheet, took your chances very well. Plus fall over a bit and let the ref do the rest!
Good luck for the rest of the season.
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Definitely the last Stockport match thread. We're no where play off condenders since dale got recalled.
Mantack and Sang can go tomorrow.
Stockport must be pissing themselves after seeing how we set up again.
Fair play to littlerobininstockport who refused to go as he'd read today's script
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Stockport defend well very good in midfield if only they cud score more
Hopefully they go up we will be sitting midtable by the look of us
Any way on a brighter note a county fan promised to slap a macc fan for us
Hopefully next season ,happy new year to all 😷
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Firstly Stockport deserved to win as others have said.
Why we persist with TT only PP knows, from where I was sat he cost us today. Unfortunate a pass it was of Ringos Nads.
We were inept as I have Seen in a while and goes back to us rotating in the trophy game in my opinion. Not got going since.
Not impressed with Sang or Mantack.
Still a long way to go so let's see how we respond in the coming games.
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Stockport defend well very good in midfield if only they cud score more
Hopefully they go up we will be sitting midtable by the look of us
Any way on a brighter note a county fan promised to slap a macc fan for us
Hopefully next season ,happy new year to all 😷
He'd have to find one first.
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Richmam MoM today by far ..
Beaten by a well organised side.
Until we get someone up top to help Jason then we will struggle to make the playoffs. We also need a plan B.
At half time today I would have hooked Mantick and put Harrison up top to assist Jordon and gone for it.
We missed a trick today, a massive crowd and anybody coming to watch Alty for the first time would have gone away thinking we were poor, which is a shame because we're much better than that.
I walked up from the car park by the offices with some County fans who were nice blokes who had good things to say about us and non league football.. As others have said the County fans have had to go through the hard times more than most
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Im often keen to the lay the blame for defeats with us but Not today (or any of the previous 3 meetings) . Stockport are a very good side who have been stronger than us in every position on the pitch.
I expect them to win the league. Strangely, the best we played against them (in my opinion) was the second half of the trophy game when we'd made a load of personnel changes.
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Utterly appalling and clueless
2 points from 4 games.
Sort it out parky
If our unambitious clueless chairman lets you.
Rowley out.
Mark,
Bit confused
Are you blaming Phil or Grahame for two points from four games?
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Utterly appalling and clueless
2 points from 4 games.
Sort it out parky
If our unambitious clueless chairman lets you.
Rowley out.
Mark,
Bit confused
Are you blaming Phil or Grahame for two points from four games?
Both
Our recruitment close season was awful and i dont get the impression there is any desire from the boardroom for anything other than consolidation this season...
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Stockport were a decent side but we dropped four points against Darlington and Guiseley when we were definitely the better footballing side. We are leaking too many goals at the moment.
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I don't think we've got the squad balance right at all. We seem to have made quite a few pointless signings without making much effort to really plug the holes. This business of only having one forward on the books was always going to come back to bite us. Just looking at the substitutes yesterday says a lot. We were flat and lifeless and only made a single sub, because we had no one on the bench capable of making an impact or changing our game. I don't understand why we faffed about signing people like Liam Goulding and Josh Langley just to never use them.
Also where was Harrop yesterday, did I miss something?
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I don't think we've got the squad balance right at all. We seem to have made quite a few pointless signings without making much effort to really plug the holes. This business of only having one forward on the books was always going to come back to bite us. Just looking at the substitutes yesterday says a lot. We were flat and lifeless and only made a single sub, because we had no one on the bench capable of making an impact or changing our game. I don't understand why we faffed about signing people like Liam Goulding and Josh Langley just to never use them.
Also where was Harrop yesterday, did I miss something?
I believe Max was injured
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Some of the hysterical posts on this thread are embarrassing.
Just like we weren't world beaters when we won 5 in a row, things aren't a disaster now our Christmas points return wasn't as good as expected.
To address a few points:
Recruitment is a bit of a lottery at this level; thankfully we (Phil) did it so well the season before, that the same team has been able to carry us this season. We've had a couple of great loanees.
One team (much like Warrington last season) we simply can't get past, and has also been responsible for both our cup exits. These things happen. They were the bookies' favourites for a reason.
We DO need a solid, authoritative goalkeeper much like Hinchcliffe at Stockport, who reminds me of Tom Heaton - someone calming that can win us 10pts a season.
Injuries and suspensions have hampered us at key moments in the season; and although I enjoy seeing the same XI every week, it would be good for Phil to trust his subs some more. We lost Peers, who is a great squad player at this level.
I'm not concerned yet - however the real acid test will come from this point onwards I suppose. Top 3 should be the dream now - in reality I think we'll be closer to 7th.
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We need to play Wynne in goal. He has the potential to become a brilliant keeper. We also need to work on bringing in another quality winger as we obviously miss both Owen and Ash badly. Apart from that, we are a very good team and 3rd is not beyond the realms of possibility.
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We need to play Wynne in goal. He has the potential to become a brilliant keeper. We also need to work on bringing in another quality winger as we obviously miss both Owen and Ash badly. Apart from that, we are a very good team and 3rd is not beyond the realms of possibility.
Totally agree. Wynne was fine until his catastrophic early error at Kidderminster, and then his confidence disappeared. He needs encouraging, and to learn that he simply needs to shrug off isolated errors. The world's greatest goalkeepers aren't immune ! He won't learn that warming the bench. Unfortunately I don't see the same scope for development in Thompson.
We haven't replaced Tom Peers adequately, and we need better than Mantack - though I personally believe that Harrop could do a job for us out wide, where his pace would be an asset.
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I don't think we can blame Thompson or the referee for our complete inability to pass the ball. Every single outfield player was at constant fault for losing the ball. Not once did we manage to put a string of passes together - we looked like schoolboys against men. Shocking display from everyone.
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Yesterday was the first Alty home match that I have attended since April 2017 and, alas, my sequence of watching the Robins fail to score a single goal now extends to four consecutive games.
Whilst poor old Tony Thompson might not exactly be a Jeff Wealands or a Stuart Coburn, he does seem somewhat unjustly to be receiving the brunt of the flak for yesterday's latest defeat at the hands of County.
In truth, we were simply devoid of the creativity to break them down (yet again) once they had got their noses in front and there was a dearth of effective options on the bench to change matters.
Both of their impressive full backs, Minihan and Duxbury, are far too good for Johnston and comfortably nullified his threat. Hulme may as well have been suspended again!
Neither Mantack nor Sang look to be of the sufficient quality required to propel us back into the play-off positions.
Thanks to the club and the supporters of both teams for the impeccably observed pre-match Roll of Honour.
My late father was certainly in some illustrious company there alongside such Alty stalwarts as Kevan Guiney, Kenny Palin, Pete Carroll, Isobel Riley and Bernard Taylor, to name but a few.
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I think keepers always come into flack when you lose, TT could have done better with there fortuitous goal, but as I said previously Hulme was rusty from his enforced layoff and few stepped up to the plate yesterday. That said they didn't create a lot either although they looked fitter and sharper. We were inept and looked "leggy". Confidence was low and psychologically we weren't set up for this game having lost the previous 3 encounters.
Long way to go, and we are still in a reasonable position. lets see how we respond over the next few games and whether we get any reinforcements in/release anyone.
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Phils transcript below of the main website over yesterdays game....
Phil Parkinson issued a heartfelt plea for unity after Altrincham dropped out of the play-off places following a 1-0 home defeat to Stockport County at a packed J.Davidson Stadium.
An afternoon of frustration for Alty meant they have taken just two points from their last four games, while County have now beaten the Robins four times this season without conceding a goal.
It was hard to take for home supporters in a 3,000-plus crowd, but Parkinson backed his players to reignite a promotion push and urged Alty followers to stick by them, ahead of another tough test at Boston United on Saturday.
‘Stockport are the best out-of-possession team we have faced all season,’ said the Alty boss. ‘I never thought any side would be able to keep us out for four games, so full credit to them for doing that.
‘We threw everyone forward in the last 10 minutes, including one of the centre-backs, and went fairly direct. People may wonder why we didn’t do that from the start, but we would have lost by four or five. We nearly conceded on the break as it was, they would just have picked us off.
‘The players are frustrated, everyone is, but I would just send a plea out to the fans that we must remain positive, because it’s not all doom and gloom. I’ve said ever since I arrived here there will be a tough period, and maybe this is it. But we’ve lost twice in the league in three months. It’s not the apocalypse.
‘There were positives. I keep hearing we can’t defend corners, but we faced more today than we have all season and dealt with them all against a side who specialise in exploiting them. We also showed we have a group of lads who will keep going to the bitter end. I thought we got stronger as the game wore on.
‘I’m certainly not panicking. The pendulum can swing very quickly, and we need to build momentum again, because we’ve had a taste of being in the play-offs and it’s a realistic aim to get back in there.’
In a timely boost for Alty, influential attacking midfielder James Poole returned to training on Thursday (Jan 2nd) after recovering from a hamstring problem.
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With Some of the replies on here you’d think we were in a relegation battle instead of coming off the back of winning a league title and now pushing, at minimum, for a playoff place almost immediately after promotion. Baffling.
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Very frustrating four games against Stockport. They're a good organised side who we'll probably end up playing in the play offs.
The thing that annoys me the most, is with all the defeats or draws that we have had this season, theres been one glaring observation. When teams stop us playing the great style of football Phil has brought to the club, we don't have a plan b. We just continue to do the same things over and over again. We need to try something a little different when that is the case, because otherwise we won't win the scrappy games.
We'd have to go on a mega bad run not to finish in the play offs, and I can't see that happening. We've not suddenly become a bad team, we've just been out manged on 4 occasions, which is annoying.
Onwards to Boston. Up The Robins.
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Yesterday was the first Alty home match that I have attended since April 2017 and, alas, my sequence of watching the Robins fail to score a single goal now extends to four consecutive games.
Whilst poor old Tony Thompson might not exactly be a Jeff Wealands or a Stuart Coburn, he does seem somewhat unjustly to be receiving the brunt of the flak for yesterday's latest defeat at the hands of County.
In truth, we were simply devoid of the creativity to break them down (yet again) once they had got their noses in front and there was a dearth of effective options on the bench to change matters.
Both of their impressive full backs, Minihan and Duxbury, are far too good for Johnston and comfortably nullified his threat. Hulme may as well have been suspended again!
Neither Mantack nor Sang look to be of the sufficient quality required to propel us back into the play-off positions.
Thanks to the club and the supporters of both teams for the impeccably observed pre-match Roll of Honour.
My late father was certainly in some illustrious company there alongside such Alty stalwarts as Kevan Guiney, Kenny Palin, Pete Carroll, Isobel Riley and Bernard Taylor, to name but a few.
My post about Tony Thompson was more about his ability in general rather than just yesterdays game. He looks petrified of coming for crosses and doesn't command his box at all,his shot stopping is decent though. Like I said about Mantack though,he can only play to the best of his ability when selected and his effort is not in doubt.
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The rest of the team make mistakes too but it's not usually as disastorous as when the Goalie makes one. The reason why we are all moaning is because we are all hurting just as much as the players and coaching staff.
Hopefully Boston won't have done their homework and plan A will bear fruit again this weekend.
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Boston did a job on us at ML when teams didn't know to do a job on us!
I don't think Thompson is a bad keeper, just don't think he that far in front of Wynne that he's nailed on to start no matter what happened the previous game
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Yesterday was the first Alty home match that I have attended since April 2017 and, alas, my sequence of watching the Robins fail to score a single goal now extends to four consecutive games.
Whilst poor old Tony Thompson might not exactly be a Jeff Wealands or a Stuart Coburn, he does seem somewhat unjustly to be receiving the brunt of the flak for yesterday's latest defeat at the hands of County.
In truth, we were simply devoid of the creativity to break them down (yet again) once they had got their noses in front and there was a dearth of effective options on the bench to change matters.
Both of their impressive full backs, Minihan and Duxbury, are far too good for Johnston and comfortably nullified his threat. Hulme may as well have been suspended again!
Neither Mantack nor Sang look to be of the sufficient quality required to propel us back into the play-off positions.
Thanks to the club and the supporters of both teams for the impeccably observed pre-match Roll of Honour.
My late father was certainly in some illustrious company there alongside such Alty stalwarts as Kevan Guiney, Kenny Palin, Pete Carroll, Isobel Riley and Bernard Taylor, to name but a few.
My post about Tony Thompson was more about his ability in general rather than just yesterdays game. He looks petrified of coming for crosses and doesn't command his box at all,his shot stopping is decent though. Like I said about Mantack though,he can only play to the best of his ability when selected and his effort is not in doubt.
Fair enough. You will have observed him in action on far more occasions than I have (plus I recall that goalkeeper was your position!).
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Stockport have a backbone of captains running through their side; often promotion-winning ones at that.
It’s no surprise they’re well drilled.
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Yesterday was the first Alty home match that I have attended since April 2017 and, alas, my sequence of watching the Robins fail to score a single goal now extends to four consecutive games.
Whilst poor old Tony Thompson might not exactly be a Jeff Wealands or a Stuart Coburn, he does seem somewhat unjustly to be receiving the brunt of the flak for yesterday's latest defeat at the hands of County.
In truth, we were simply devoid of the creativity to break them down (yet again) once they had got their noses in front and there was a dearth of effective options on the bench to change matters.
Both of their impressive full backs, Minihan and Duxbury, are far too good for Johnston and comfortably nullified his threat. Hulme may as well have been suspended again!
Neither Mantack nor Sang look to be of the sufficient quality required to propel us back into the play-off positions.
Thanks to the club and the supporters of both teams for the impeccably observed pre-match Roll of Honour.
My late father was certainly in some illustrious company there alongside such Alty stalwarts as Kevan Guiney, Kenny Palin, Pete Carroll, Isobel Riley and Bernard Taylor, to name but a few.
My post about Tony Thompson was more about his ability in general rather than just yesterdays game. He looks petrified of coming for crosses and doesn't command his box at all,his shot stopping is decent though. Like I said about Mantack though,he can only play to the best of his ability when selected and his effort is not in doubt.
Fair enough. You will have observed him in action on far more occasions than I have (plus I recall that goalkeeper was your position!).
I’ve actually only seen him 5 or 6 times myself Cult but I can tell from those games compared with the many keepers we’ve seen at Moss Ln that’s he’s not quite good enough. We were always goin to have trouble finding an adequate long term replacement for Stu though!!
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Yesterday was the first Alty home match that I have attended since April 2017 and, alas, my sequence of watching the Robins fail to score a single goal now extends to four consecutive games.
Whilst poor old Tony Thompson might not exactly be a Jeff Wealands or a Stuart Coburn, he does seem somewhat unjustly to be receiving the brunt of the flak for yesterday's latest defeat at the hands of County.
In truth, we were simply devoid of the creativity to break them down (yet again) once they had got their noses in front and there was a dearth of effective options on the bench to change matters.
Both of their impressive full backs, Minihan and Duxbury, are far too good for Johnston and comfortably nullified his threat. Hulme may as well have been suspended again!
Neither Mantack nor Sang look to be of the sufficient quality required to propel us back into the play-off positions.
Thanks to the club and the supporters of both teams for the impeccably observed pre-match Roll of Honour.
My late father was certainly in some illustrious company there alongside such Alty stalwarts as Kevan Guiney, Kenny Palin, Pete Carroll, Isobel Riley and Bernard Taylor, to name but a few.
The years seem to get cruleur the older i get . So many memories across Mr Guiney Kenny and the General RIP x
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I find it difficult to understand some of the blame comments being levelled at certain players on here. Stockport have proved, again, that they have the measure of us. They have quality from 1-11 and know how to manage the play; I’d not be surprised were they to win the league and fair play should they manage to.
For our part, Hampson and Richman worked hard through 90, others found it harder. I do consider the level of criticism TT is getting to be unfair and while I appreciate there is a case for playing Wynne, bringing him in to face Stockport would have been a big ask. Mantack, on the other hand, looks out of his depth but I hope I’m proved wrong.
So onwards, smarting from a disappointing Xmas perhaps but, hopefully, a bit wiser too. Third place may have flattered us and fanned the flames of optimism, however, if we regain the form we’ve shown during much of the season so far, we have every right to consider ourselves worthy of the play-offs.
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Amidst all this despondency, I think its timely to reflect on how far we have come in the last 18 months, show some gratitude to the management and players, and count our blessings. Much to learn from the Stockport experience, but onwards and upwards in 2019. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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I find it difficult to understand some of the blame comments being levelled at certain players on here. Stockport have proved, again, that they have the measure of us. They have quality from 1-11 and know how to manage the play; I’d not be surprised were they to win the league and fair play should they manage to.
For our part, Hampson and Richman worked hard through 90, others found it harder. I do consider the level of criticism TT is getting to be unfair and while I appreciate there is a case for playing Wynne, bringing him in to face Stockport would have been a big ask. Mantack, on the other hand, looks out of his depth but I hope I’m proved wrong.
So onwards, smarting from a disappointing Xmas perhaps but, hopefully, a bit wiser too. Third place may have flattered us and fanned the flames of optimism, however, if we regain the form we’ve shown during much of the season so far, we have every right to consider ourselves worthy of the play-offs.
Quality post.
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Top post, rapscallion. IF we get promoted my feeling is we will face a lot of teams who will be able to 'do a Stockport' on us. Certainly the management team are on a learning curve and the last few games must be making them think differently about how they are having to approach games. The players must also be having to rethink how they can get past the Stockports of this world.
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I find it difficult to understand some of the blame comments being levelled at certain players on here. Stockport have proved, again, that they have the measure of us. They have quality from 1-11 and know how to manage the play; I’d not be surprised were they to win the league and fair play should they manage to.
For our part, Hampson and Richman worked hard through 90, others found it harder. I do consider the level of criticism TT is getting to be unfair and while I appreciate there is a case for playing Wynne, bringing him in to face Stockport would have been a big ask. Mantack, on the other hand, looks out of his depth but I hope I’m proved wrong.
So onwards, smarting from a disappointing Xmas perhaps but, hopefully, a bit wiser too. Third place may have flattered us and fanned the flames of optimism, however, if we regain the form we’ve shown during much of the season so far, we have every right to consider ourselves worthy of the play-offs.
Quality post.
I don't think people are just blaming Thompson or Mantack for the defeat. They were simply better all over the park.
However Thompson should be discussed on a fans forum because he consistently makes mistakes. We were so lucky to have Coburn and over 10 years plus we had him there were very few mistakes. Thompson in 2 years has made mistake after mistake. I said it last season but a decent keeper makes you 10 points plus.It's harsh but whilst he plays he will lose us points.
It has to be discussed and it needs addressing. He has had more than enough chances. It needs sorting ASAP and for now that has to be Wynne.
As for Mantack, it appears very obvious he is not good enough. Harrop for left wing for now until that position is also addressed.
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To add PP has always said that if players aren't performing others will step in. Wynne is maybe not the long term answer but he made one mistake and was dropped. That isn't fair when TT has game after game to try and redeem his mistakes.
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To add PP has always said that if players aren't performing others will step in. Wynne is maybe not the long term answer but he made one mistake and was dropped. That isn't fair when TT has game after game to try and redeem his mistakes.
Absolutely.
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A bit of perspective: Stockport County 3 - 0 Bradford (Park Avenue)
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The BPA goalie must be rubbish :)
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Exactly. I went to this game and BPA were awful. They must really be missing Luca Havern to have slumped so dramatically. Stockport had far more attacking play than in any games they have played this season against Altrincham, which shows just how much of the time they had to defend against us. It's clear to me now that when they went 1-0 on NYD they didn't sit back, they were pegged back. They aren't as exciting to watch as Alty, but they aren't conceding goals either.
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You were a lot better than Bradford but you never really threatened at any stage in the 2 Christmas games, I think you'll finish in 3rd or 4th place. I hope you enjoyed the game yesterday but it wasn't much of a contest, Bradford were very poor and 3-0 flattered them even if the 3rd was a bit of a comedy.
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we'be had our blip and are more than capable now of going on another run.
Stockport have simply been
1) Lucky to face us during our blip not at full strength (via getting Jordan sent off and hemmings recall) and to get an siist for their goal from richman's goolies
2) were clearly sh*t scared of playing us and even taking a throw in...im surprised the highlights weren't ten minutes of the ball sitting by the advertising hoardings while the stockport players wandered around not interested in taking a throw in.
we will finish top
stockport will bottle the play offs but well done to them for a successful season (seeing as we are being condescending)
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I wasn't being condescending, we're a better side and we'll finish higher than you, maybe if we hadn't wasted time we'd have scored a 2nd which was far more likely than you having a 2nd shot, lighten up a bit.
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I wasn't being condescending, we're a better side and we'll finish higher than you, maybe if we hadn't wasted time we'd have scored a 2nd which was far more likely than you having a 2nd shot, lighten up a bit.
I agree.
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So many teams are reliant on loanees that it's often difficult to tell just how good they really are. The recent form of clubs like Southport and Darlington has been based on having quality loanees. If Oldham were to recall Stott from Stockport, that might cause a problem or two for them. Also, with all squads at this level being a bit threadbare, even one or two injuries can change things. My money is still on Chorley, simply because they have the points on the board.
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I wasn't being condescending, we're a better side and we'll finish higher than you, maybe if we hadn't wasted time we'd have scored a 2nd which was far more likely than you having a 2nd shot, lighten up a bit.
Please ignore Jezza,we find him tedious too.
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PP agrees with me if you listen to his latest interview.