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Title: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 23, 2018, 09:23:15 AM
There’s somewhat limited public transport options for Boxing Day but here’s a few options that are available for suppoeters wanting to travel to Edgeley Park

Metrolink are running services all day and so I’ll list a number of stagecoach buses that go to stockport from near tram stations

The 23 bus which is the stockport - Trafford centre service can be accessed from near stretford, Chorlton and Didsbury tram stops and will
Be running a service every 30 minutes with the last departure from stockport bus station on the way back being 18:38

The 42 service which is the Piccadilly - stockport Service
Piccadilly to Stockport: 8:45 then every 30 minutes until  20:45.
Stockport to Piccadilly: 7:47 then every 30 minutes until  20:17
The 42 can be accessed from the tram stops at Piccadilly, Didsbury and east Didsbury/parrswood

The 192 service which the service that runs up the A6
Hazel Grove to Piccadilly: 7:35 then every 10 minutes until  20:35
Piccadilly to Hazel Grove: 7:45, 8:05, 8:25, 8:45 then every 10 minutes until  20:45

Buses will run every 5 minutes from Stockport to Manchester between 8:30 and  18:00
Buses will run every 5 minutes from Manchester to Stockport between 8:55 and 18:15
The 192 can be accessed from the tram station at Piccadilly

Service 203
Stockport to Piccadilly: 7:31 then every 30 minutes until  20:01
Piccadilly to Stockport: 8:41 then every 30 minutes until  21:11
The 203 can be accessed from the tram station at Piccadilly


Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 23, 2018, 12:33:17 PM
As Stockport are becoming something of a bogey team and the fact we dropped 2 points yesterday it's another massive game.

Assuming White and Poole are still not ready for consideration I think the only change will be Wynn in for Thompson..

County 1-1 Alty. Hancock

Attn 2456 (400 Alty)


Ps. I'll walk via the Old Vic
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on December 23, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
Further to Mrs W's superb public transport guide, the 23 bus is scheduled to call near Stretford tram stop (on Edge Lane) at 1253 & 1323, arriving Stockport Bus Station 1328 & 1358 respectively.
Return departures ex Stockport BS 1708 & 1738.
An alternative is bus 42 ex Stockport BS 1717 to East Didsbury (near tram stop) 1730, then tram to Trafford Bar & change there for Alty line.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 23, 2018, 01:16:29 PM
We must put Wynne in.
Thompson was yet again terrible yesterday. Just shocking decision making and at Stockport on a huge pitch he has the potential to run into no man's land.
We started very slow yesterday. Need to come out of the blocks flying and no early bookings....... Harrop.
What is up with White?
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 23, 2018, 01:33:42 PM
White took a knock to knee in the Telford game. Much as I like Densmore I'd start White whenever possible
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 23, 2018, 02:10:36 PM
As Stockport are becoming something of a bogey team and the fact we dropped 2 points yesterday it's another massive game.

Assuming White and Poole are still not ready for consideration I think the only change will be Wynn in for Thompson..

County 1-1 Alty. Hancock

Attn 2456 (400 Alty)


Ps. I'll walk via the Old Vic



Their average home crowd is over 3200  and we took  600 plus in the cup and two years ago ,I would expect around 4k with 600 plus Alty fans
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 23, 2018, 02:41:12 PM
Anyone know how we get tickets? 500 people queuing at the sales windows will not be fun.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 23, 2018, 04:09:29 PM
No real issues at the cop game recently I seem to remember
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 24, 2018, 10:15:20 AM
See on there website, cash only entry as before. 3 of us going. Bring on the Alty.

I agree with others I can see Wynne coming in, rest as was unless there are any injuries.

Looking forward to the match.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: CountyFan on December 24, 2018, 01:14:41 PM
We're putting you in the open end, it it's not raining we'll put the sprinklers on  ;)
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 24, 2018, 02:11:41 PM
Stockport 23/20
Draw 12/5
Alty 2/1
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 24, 2018, 03:01:47 PM
I see this as our biggest game so far. We need to get some sort of a result after losing in the cup games.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on December 24, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Here's hoping for a decent strong ref, but these seem very rare and getting rarer as it seems refs are getting worse.

In the cup games Stockport players seemed to fall to the floor at the slightest touch, which to be fair worked for them as the refs fell for it practically every time. Our players need to be reminded of that tactic as well. They had an odd tendency to hand ball it too which the refs did not see.

One thing is clear we will need to be a lot better than at the Darlo game. Like to see Wynne given a few games in net.


Merry xmas ! :-*

Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on December 24, 2018, 08:15:17 PM
I half believe we can win this league now. 7 points (not unobtainable) from the next 3 games and we will be in a very very strong position. Every game in this league is tough but we now have the quality of squad depth to cope. Merry Christmas all x
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 26, 2018, 09:21:21 AM
I’m just hoping today we play like the team that deservedly won at Chester and Brackley and don’t have some kind of brain freeze which seems to often happen against Stockport. There’s a reason after 20/21 games we are 4th in the table and let’s hope we show that today. Stockports forum all thinking they’ll win or draw, defeat hasn’t crossed their minds, we owe them one so let’s go there and play like we have done all season, get the first goal and beat the Hatters. Come on Alty.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 26, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
we owe them one so let’s go there and play like we have done all season, get the first goal and beat the Hatters. Come on Alty.

We owe them TWO - one today and one next week hopefully !
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: CountyFan on December 26, 2018, 12:41:42 PM
For those looking for a decent tipple, the Armoury is very welcoming, the rest of Edgeley is perhaps the dodgiest part of the whole town, if you've got enough time the market is great for real ale boozers, nice crowd as well.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 26, 2018, 02:30:22 PM
) Thompson, 2) Densmore, 3) Hampson, 4) Jones, 5) Hannigan, 6) Moult (C), 7) Johnston, 8) Williams, 9 Hancock, 10) Harrop, 11) Hemmings.
SUBS
12) Mantack, 14) Richman, 15) Harrison, 16) Song, 20) Wynne.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on December 26, 2018, 05:46:20 PM
Someone tell me how williams gets in ahead of richman?
The striker on loan played well and perhaps should have been played from the start..
We are still suffering from disrespecting the trophy and losing jordan.
Score 1st v county and they wouldnt park the bus and counter which is the only thing they do well.
Credit to the lads for keeping probing but we could have played all night...and not scored.
Learn how to defend and take corners please
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 26, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
Before I start on our failings, well done to Stockport for doing another job on us . Never looked like opening them up. They're so well organised it's frightening. Even with Hulme back I can't see us breaking them down. If they score first it's done deal.

Staggered that Thompson started, Williams was dreadful, we were slow, lacked movement and deserved nothing. Only plus point was Song looked ok
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 26, 2018, 05:53:19 PM
Someone tell me how williams gets in ahead of richman?
The striker on loan played well and perhaps should have been played from the start..
We are still suffering from disrespecting the trophy and losing jordan.
Score 1st v county and they wouldnt park the bus and counter which is the only thing they do well.
Credit to the lads for keeping probing but we could have played all night...and not scored.
Learn how to defend and take corners please

I agree with all that, but I do think Stockport should be given credit for the way they defended and denied Altrincham spaces to run down the sides, meaning that Hemmings and Johnston had to keep cutting inside, where they ended up outnumbered. Williams can't defend as well as Richman, and Richman moves the ball on quicker. No coincidence I think that the unbeaten run matched his time out injured.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 26, 2018, 06:06:19 PM
I agree with posts above. For me as others say . We have failed since the trophy game. Always play your strongest 11 in my opinion. Deserved nothing today. We need to learn from this.

Onwards to Guiseley.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 26, 2018, 06:29:49 PM


Apologies but I appear to be a jinx.

I've only seen three Alty matches in the last eight months and each one has seen the Robins fail to score a goal (Buxton away last April and the two defeats at Edgeley Park this season).

Dispiriting stuff this afternoon, as some of the previous correspondents have already observed. County appear well and truly to have our number.

I was never that convinced by Williams during his previous spell at the club and he was simply abject this afternoon.

Harrop seemed lost; Hancock was outmuscled and both Hemmings and Johnston were largely peripheral figures.

Sang looked somewhat lightweight to me.

Did we really disdain and sacrifice the FA Trophy for that?

Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on December 26, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
We've got to do something different against them on NYD. Maybe play 2 up front (Hulme and Sang). I didn't go today, but in the cup match we looked vulnerable at every set piece. Maybe start Harrison for height? Will White be back any time soon. Bit harsh on Willo: he's still a bit rusty after being out and was certainly our best player in the cup game against them. They scraped a draw against Alfreton last time out; they're not that great. They've just got our measure, so need to do something different.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 26, 2018, 06:59:17 PM
Couldnt go because of family commitments but straight away I wondered why Williams started over Richman,who has been solid.
I really rate our management but since the trophy game I have been slightly concerned with some decisons.
Dropping both centre backs in the trophy game was a mistake.
Playing Thompson in any game is a huge mistake, so so many mistakes and he plays one of the most vital roles. I watch keepers come to Moss Lane and there arent that many mistakes and there are numerous occasions during a game that Thompson makes my heart miss a beat. He makes our defence nervous. Harsh but football is harsh, get rid.
Play Wynne but look for a proven keeper.
I can't fault Hulme's effort but he needs to stop the ref back chat as that may have been a yellow in the trophy (wrongly or rightly) but he had just given the ref loads for the 5 mins beforehand. I said it last season but Moult needs to have a word or grip him straight away.
The sooner we get Hulme back and Hancock as number 10 the better. They just click really well. Need Richman in centre mid.
I rate Williams and Harrop but we defo concede more with them both in the team. I think Richman just covers more ground than any other centre mid we have. He's a machine.



 
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Leon on December 26, 2018, 07:21:04 PM
Even if PP wasn’t that bothered about the Trophy (which I’d find hard to understand), we should have given everything to beat them in the Trophy because it would have been such a help going into these two matches. As it is, they’ve become a bogey team for us and it’s partly with our contrivance.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on December 26, 2018, 07:21:43 PM
I've said before Williams is a decent player but doesn't suit our current team. Him and Harrop have never worked well together either. We suddenly gained pace and momentum when Richman came on and I was disappointed and surprised he wasn't starting. I think we miss Andy White more than we realise too.

All teams have bogey sides and Stockport are clearly ours, as Warrington were last season. A disappointing afternoon but a great turnout from Alty fans.

Onwards and upwards 😁

Paul
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 26, 2018, 07:23:58 PM
Even if PP wasn’t that bothered about the Trophy (which I’d find hard to understand), we should have given everything to beat them in the Trophy because it would have been such a help going into these two matches. As it is, they’ve become a bogey team for us and it’s partly with our contrivance.
Agreed. I think too many changes during that game was a mistake. Momentum has been massively affected as it meant the majority of the first team didn't play for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on December 26, 2018, 07:32:54 PM
Fair result against a solid and well organised Stockport side.

We won't break them down with so many loose passes and the 2 wingers drifting all over, hard to know what Hemmings position was at times. Hancock tried hard but got naff all service most of the game. New loanee did OK & looked liked he might offer a bit of a plan B but changes were too late.

Williams seemed to start OK but went downhill quickly after he won a tackle but a free-kick was given Stockport's way. Williams then ranted at the officials & it seemed to affect his concentration.
Too many of our lot played too many poor passes, not just Williams.

Need to sack off this short corner routine ASAP and give us a chance on set pieces. 2-3 passes then out to Max Harrop to do a twirl on edge of the oppo box and lose possession? Against a solid defence like Stockports just get it in the mixer.  
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 26, 2018, 09:41:08 PM
Hugely disappointing. I thought Max barely got a touch in the first half. Everything went through Williams but mostly he couldn't find a forward pass. The first goal was like it was scored in slow motion Interplay was sadly lacking. It looked like the team had only recently met.
A complete mess really.

Looking for much better at Guiseley.

New loanee showed promise.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Nasha on December 26, 2018, 10:36:13 PM
Before my whinge, let's give Stockport the credit. As been said, have us sussed, but as any football game, 1st goal is key. If Hancock shot gone in rather than the post we'd be talking about a different game.

Go back to the cup game, and we were well on top until Williams picked up his injury, so fully understand why he started ahead of richman. Just Williams had a poor game. Great to see jones back, but as much as love dens we badly missed White today. Hope Jordan watched that and realised the consequences of his actions (although he is a player who you don't want to change, it annoys me it was an avoidable red)

Top 5 going in to the festive period, I'd snap your hand off. Get back on track at Guiesley and go from there
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on December 26, 2018, 11:32:00 PM
It was Hemmings shot that hit the post, but know what you mean.

Agree about Jordan. As others have posted it's a waste him being sat in the stands when he should be leading the line. Appreciate it was a straight red for a challenge but his attitude to berate refs and linesmen is pointless and counterproductive. They won't change their mind, but could show you a card when they otherwise might not have. He's gone on Alty TV saying he hates officials, well that attitude needs to be addressed, yes they're mostly random (possibly crap), but arguing with them to excess isn't helping your game, not when you are sat in the stands.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: CountyFan on December 27, 2018, 10:17:26 AM
To say he doesn't like refs is bonkers, there'd be no game without them and he's really not going to endear himself to the refs with that attitude, it'll be interesting to see 2 full strength sides on NYD, I reckon we're 2 of the top 4 and I fancy us to edge it again.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on December 27, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
It'll be interesting to see if Stockport are as defensively effective at our place against a full strength team. If they are, then fair play, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 27, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
Really not sure why Williams attracts all the criticism whilst Max doesn't.

Fan favourite he may be, but I'd be keen to see our respective points returns with and without him - doesn't take ownership of games and no surprise our run coincided with his omission too.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 27, 2018, 11:06:54 AM
Apparently 588 of us there yesterday. Excellent turnout. Certainly deserved better.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: CountyFan on December 27, 2018, 01:05:13 PM
588 was a really impressive turnout, a lot has been said about our defence but we had a lot of good chances, it's not like we parked the bus.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 27, 2018, 01:18:55 PM
didn't we take over 700 for the FA cup match?
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 27, 2018, 01:28:34 PM
didn't we take over 700 for the FA cup match?

650 in the Cup IIRC.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on December 27, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
Has Josh Langley, possible the world's most pointless signing, returned to his parent club now?
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 27, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Match highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkqrGb6ymXM

Jim Gannon interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbiZtGciwpc
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 28, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
Thanks for the links.

Hemmings should have done better as I thought on the day, scored and as Jake said, it would have been a different game.

Sloppy from the corner conceding. There second from Mulhearn was class, great take. But Jones should have been closer and TT stayed on his feet.

We only started pressing late on after Richman came on, they pressed all game and had excellent energy levels and game plan.

JG said they are a hybrid team, so I assume some are fulltime and others part time? Interesting concept for us to look at perhaps.

Onwards to Guiseley, and hopefully a response. COYR.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 28, 2018, 09:45:41 AM
Didn't look too bad because it was the highlights. What's missing is all the time going nowhere passing it across the back four at a pedestrian pace. There was no urgency to get the ball forward and by the time we did they were organised to deal with whatever came their way.

Looking forward to a different game tomorrow.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 28, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
I'm not claiming to be any kind of football tactician, but the way I see it the passing across the back is to draw the opposition out, and create spaces to get the ball forward. The third goal against Bradford in the Trophy being a good example.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 28, 2018, 01:11:25 PM
I think you're right but Stockport were well drilled and didn't need to chase the ball once they were a goal in front. We were still passing it along the back row for large portions of the second half. The change of tactics came very late on in the game.
Title: Re: Stockport County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 28, 2018, 03:44:47 PM
Just watched them. Best passage of play we had was the Hemmings chance (even we got a bit lucky with the final ball to him), should have scored. First goal is basic, second is a very good ball and excellent first touch. Highlight of the highlights was the commentary