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Title: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 19, 2018, 08:55:35 AM
Alty 3/4
Draw 14/5
Darlington 10/3

Important to get the Christmas “mini season” underway with three points. Us top of the form table, Darlo near the bottom of it. Need a professional performance and three points. Do we know how long Jordan Hulme is suspended for? Assume it’s three games but we’ve had no clarification
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 19, 2018, 09:00:31 AM
Hope the "Flu" has cleared up, back to near enough full strength, important to get off to 3 points on Saturday. Interested to see who plays up top for what I assume will be a 3 match rest for Jordan.

We can score and create without Jordan, so lets get on with it and keep the league momentum going.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 19, 2018, 09:18:47 AM
I’ve just checked the FA database. It is three games taking in the fixtures from the 22nd until the 29th
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 19, 2018, 09:40:53 AM
Hulme is a massive loss as we no like for like replacement. Might be the time to go to 4-3-3 with Mantack, Hancock and Hemming up top.

Not the worst game to try something out, but definitely need to get 3 points.

Alty 2-0 Darlington. Hancock and hemmings
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 19, 2018, 10:21:56 AM
Darlo have a very useful striker on loan from Sunderland who scored two in his debut at Chorley
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 19, 2018, 10:57:22 AM
Don't worry. We have four centre-halves.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 19, 2018, 11:17:55 AM
I think the only option is to have Hancock/Harrop as your 9 and 10. I would most defo go Hemmings and JJ on the wings. Still not sure about Mantack.
Assuming White is injured then Dens, Jones, Hannigan and Hampson. Richman and Moult CM.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 19, 2018, 11:47:31 AM
Probably will be same formation just a thought I had.

No idea why I put Mantack in instead of JJ though!

It's critical that either Hampson or White play at lb no matter what formation we play
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 19, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Maybe start off with Mantack at 9?
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 19, 2018, 05:27:26 PM
Maybe start off with Mantack at 9?

We need someone that can stick the ball away - and that obvious candidate is Josh. We have the creativity to fill his boots at No10 in the meantime.

Mantack did his best to stuff up his goal v BPA, so not sure he's got his shooting boots on just yet.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Altyrocket on December 19, 2018, 05:44:11 PM
We need someone that can stick the ball away - and that obvious candidate is Josh. We have the creativity to fill his boots at No10 in the meantime.

+1
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: anglo alty on December 19, 2018, 07:25:09 PM
Lets get back on it
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 19, 2018, 08:09:10 PM
Darlo having a poor season and a lot of the natives want Tommy Wright sacked. For me this is one we should and will win, obviously JH a big loss but we have goals all throughout this team so I’m confident. Arguably more important will be getting our normal defence back after last Saturday. 2-1 Alty with a pre-Xmas gate of 923 for me.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on December 19, 2018, 08:52:10 PM
Continue our winning league form

Alty 3 - 1 Darlo.

Att 989 45 with Santa hats on

Ho ho ho
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 19, 2018, 11:01:42 PM
Darlo having a poor season and a lot of the natives want Tommy Wright sacked. For me this is one we should and will win, obviously JH a big loss but we have goals all throughout this team so I’m confident. Arguably more important will be getting our normal defence back after last Saturday. 2-1 Alty with a pre-Xmas gate of 923 for me.

In fairness last Saturday's defence wasn't bad. Wicked deflection for the goal and they dealt with everything else.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 20, 2018, 09:40:23 AM
We'll feel the loss of Hulme in more ways than just goals. It sticks with him when it gets there and it gives other attackers plenty of time to get further up the field. Whoever comes in at #9 has to do their best to replicate that and that's why I'd opt for Hancock myself.

                        Hancock

Hemmings        Harrop            Johnston

              Richman        Moult

Hampson   Hannigan       Jones      White

                       Thompson


Altrincham 2-0 Darlington. Johnston penalty and Jones from a corner, either side of half time. ATT: 899.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 20, 2018, 11:44:38 AM
That's where Paul Ellender (remember him?) came in handy. Equally as effective at centre-forward as centre-half.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 20, 2018, 12:10:37 PM
A given it’ll be segregated after the pitch invasions etc last time around
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 20, 2018, 12:16:16 PM
I think that's how we'll line up Andrew. And for the reasons you state that's why I wouldn't.

Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 20, 2018, 07:54:02 PM
We'll feel the loss of Hulme in more ways than just goals. It sticks with him when it gets there and it gives other attackers plenty of time to get further up the field. Whoever comes in at #9 has to do their best to replicate that and that's why I'd opt for Hancock myself.

                        Hancock

Hemmings        Harrop            Johnston

              Richman        Moult

Hampson   Hannigan       Jones      White

                       Thompson


Altrincham 2-0 Darlington. Johnston penalty and Jones from a corner, either side of half time. ATT: 899.

Spot on. My main concern isn't missing his goals because we have them in the team, it is holding the ball up top whilst players get up the pitch.

I think he will go with the above team.

Come on Alty.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on December 20, 2018, 08:50:45 PM
That's where Paul Ellender (remember him?) came in handy. Equally as effective at centre-forward as centre-half.

I can’t say I remember Paul Ellender playing up front?
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Matt Taylor on December 20, 2018, 09:28:50 PM
I’d be happy enough with any sort of win, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised by a re-run (or better) of the 3-0 at their place earlier in the season. There’s a reason we win every week, and they don’t.
Either way, it would be useful to get 3 points on the board. Much sterner challenges await us at Stockport, Guiseley, Boston, and Chorley over the next few games.

Not sure it needs segregating tho (as suggested earlier). They’ll bring a fraction of the 400 that travelled on the last time we hosted them, on the opening day of the season.

Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on December 21, 2018, 06:26:04 AM
Paul Ellender was great to push further forward as an attacking midfielder...cant remember him as a number nine exactly....bit like Ricky Harris
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 21, 2018, 09:17:33 AM
Darlo have a very useful striker on loan from Sunderland who scored two in his debut at Chorley

This lad, Andy Nelson, is very highly-rated and is expected to get a longer term loan to a football league club in January (contract due to expire end of season).

His two goals v Chorley were very similar lifts over the goalkeeper (they're on Youtube), will need to stop him getting into similar positions.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 21, 2018, 09:58:48 AM
Darlo have a very useful striker on loan from Sunderland who scored two in his debut at Chorley

This lad, Andy Nelson, is very highly-rated and is expected to get a longer term loan to a football league club in January (contract due to expire end of season).

We just need to revert back to our best back 4 and they will deal with him.
His two goals v Chorley were very similar lifts over the goalkeeper (they're on Youtube), will need to stop him getting into similar positions.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 21, 2018, 04:49:56 PM
Pitch inspection 8.30am

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/pitch-inspection-darlington
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 21, 2018, 05:14:31 PM
We could really do with this going ahead. I'd like to see Jordan back for New Year's Day.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 21, 2018, 05:16:47 PM
Why is there a pitch inspection when we’ve paid ten grand for pitch covers? It’s winter weather
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 21, 2018, 06:58:02 PM
Why is there a pitch inspection when we’ve paid ten grand for pitch covers? It’s winter weather

Precisely be good to hear why no call for volunteers if it's because of lack of man power etc.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 21, 2018, 06:58:12 PM
Why is there a pitch inspection when we’ve paid ten grand for pitch covers? It’s winter weather

Precisely be good to hear why no call for volunteers if it's because of lack of man power etc.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on December 21, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
Why is there a pitch inspection when we’ve paid ten grand for pitch covers? It’s winter weather
Statement on club website to the effect that pitch covers have not been on in order to enable repair work to take place on the pitch following last Saturday's match.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on December 21, 2018, 09:37:20 PM
Why is there a pitch inspection when we’ve paid ten grand for pitch covers? It’s winter weather
Statement on club website to the effect that pitch covers have not been on in order to enable repair work to take place on the pitch following last Saturday's match.

Seems a bit of a Catch 22 situation . If we play tomorrow then the pitch will need repairing again thus  making it impossible for the covers to be used next week.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: wayno on December 21, 2018, 09:39:10 PM
Why did we get the covers? Whats the point ?
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 21, 2018, 10:00:21 PM
Why is there a pitch inspection when we’ve paid ten grand for pitch covers? It’s winter weather
Statement on club website to the effect that pitch covers have not been on in order to enable repair work to take place on the pitch following last Saturday's match.

Seems a bit of a Catch 22 situation . If we play tomorrow then the pitch will need repairing again thus  making it impossible for the covers to be used next week.

Which makes me wonder why we coordinated a huge fan fundraising effort to purchase them in the first place. This was surely always going to be the case, post game work on the pitch is part and parcel. We knew this.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 21, 2018, 10:49:02 PM
4G
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 21, 2018, 11:23:03 PM
We are always going to have this issue with the ground on MOSS Lane and, unless the playing surface is raised significantly, we still might need to look at 4G as an option.
Looking at the highlights of our last match, the ground near the Pop Side is already looking somewhat dodgy!
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 22, 2018, 09:05:45 AM
We are always going to have this issue with the ground on MOSS Lane and, unless the playing surface is raised significantly, we still might need to look at 4G as an option.
Looking at the highlights of our last match, the ground near the Pop Side is already looking somewhat dodgy!

Indeed, but fans invested money into covers under the impression they would be used in weeks like the ones we’ve just had. This is the wettest month of the year on average, and so far we’ve been told we can’t use them because:

a) United kids had a game and the pitch needed to breathe afterwards.
b) Work needed to be done and the groundspeople needed access to the surface.

Regardless of the outcome of today’s inspection I think we’ve got to ask the question of whether we’re using these covers to their full potential.

They were cited as a part of a summer campaign of work to combat the problems we have with our surface, but if the donators were told about points a and b I wonder how many would have still chipped in.

Perhaps more communication is needed midweek as to the work being done, and why. Not having a go here, I just think fans deserve a bit more information on something they collectively purchased, and we open ourselves up for criticism when we’re so quiet all week.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 22, 2018, 10:08:39 AM
We are always going to have this issue with the ground on MOSS Lane and, unless the playing surface is raised significantly, we still might need to look at 4G as an option.
Looking at the highlights of our last match, the ground near the Pop Side is already looking somewhat dodgy!

Indeed, but fans invested money into covers under the impression they would be used in weeks like the ones we’ve just had. This is the wettest month of the year on average, and so far we’ve been told we can’t use them because:

a) United kids had a game and the pitch needed to breathe afterwards.
b) Work needed to be done and the groundspeople needed access to the surface.

Regardless of the outcome of today’s inspection I think we’ve got to ask the question of whether we’re using these covers to their full potential.

They were cited as a part of a summer campaign of work to combat the problems we have with our surface, but if the donators were told about points a and b I wonder how many would have still chipped in.

Perhaps more communication is needed midweek as to the work being done, and why. Not having a go here, I just think fans deserve a bit more information on something they collectively purchased, and we open ourselves up for criticism when we’re so quiet all week.

Or if we're not going to use them maybe offer to Trafford to ensure they have a game on (if logistically feasible)
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 22, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
1) Thompson, 2) Densmore, 3) Hampson, 4) Jones, 5) Hannigan, 6) Moult (C), 7) Johnston, 8) Richman, 9) Hancock, 10) Harrop, 11) Hemmings.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 22, 2018, 02:54:27 PM
12) Williams, 14) Mantack, 15) Langley, 16) Sang, 20) Wynne.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 22, 2018, 05:21:21 PM
We could be quite 16) Sang, 20) Wynne. after that performance!
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 22, 2018, 05:22:06 PM
Made hard work of that. Would have taken a point at halftime. Thought we were poor today but improved second half

Surprised we didn’t freshen up a bit late on as we looked for a winner.

Onwards to Wednesday where we need to play better than that.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on December 22, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
can anyone enlighten me as to who was offside for the added time "winner"?
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: PukkaPieman on December 22, 2018, 05:45:55 PM
can anyone enlighten me as to who was offside for the added time "winner"?

Hemmings, but he wasnt I dont think when williams struck it.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on December 22, 2018, 05:48:50 PM
After a poor first half defensively i was very proud of the players 2nd half efforts.
I think the stockport selection had a bearing on this result.
If you want to rotate play your strongest 11 and take 3 players off when you are 3-0 up at ht...
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 22, 2018, 05:59:02 PM
Max Harrop summed up the game, dreadful first half but much improved second.

Not many came out with much credit but Hemmings was superb. I hope his last gasp 'winner' was chalked off for hand ball (because it was) and not offside (because it wasn't)

Expect Winn to be reinstated in Wednesday as Thompson was horrendous
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 22, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
I thought Max was looking a little rusty in the first half. OK in the second half. Pleased to see him not diving in to get booked today.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Mick on December 22, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Take a point after being 3 - 1 down.....first half was poor

Second half we ran our socks off - full credit to 'em all

Dissallowed goal ? ....but a few let offs before that where Darlo could have won the game
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 22, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
If that apology for a linesman was right to disallow our "winner", it was about the only thing the useless inept T**t DID get right all afternoon. I've seen children's parents running the line on a Sunday who could at least keep up with play for a full game. He should be made to flush his flag down the lavatory.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 22, 2018, 08:54:03 PM
Max Harrop summed up the game, dreadful first half but much improved second.

Not many came out with much credit but Hemmings was superb. I hope his last gasp 'winner' was chalked off for hand ball (because it was) and not offside (because it wasn't)

Expect Winn to be reinstated in Wednesday as Thompson was horrendous

The way it came across on the radio commentary was that there seemed to be poor communication between TT and the defense. One ability a keeper really needs is to shout - another is to be decisive.

The other thing that really came across on RR was just how abysmal the officials were, especially the card happy ref.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on December 22, 2018, 09:05:59 PM
Thought the sh@t ref got into the Xmas spirit by the number of fkn cards he handed out.
I'm 65 and I'm sure I could have kept up with play better than the T**t in black running the line on the popular side.

Poor first half in which the team didn't seem able to pick up the pace of the game.
Much better second half by the lads. Especially Jake and Max. My MoTM though was Hemmings, an exciting player.

Thompson does worry me at times, would like to see Wynne have a bit of a run in the side.

The weather doesn't look too bad for the next 10 days so hopefully the covers can be used just to keep any showers etc off the grass once it's been repaired and allowed to breath etc

Merry Xmas forumites.

Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 22, 2018, 10:56:25 PM
Along with others on here, I thought we looked off the pace in the first half.  I stayed in the Golf Road end during the first 90 and, frankly, it was heart in the mouth stuff at times given the way our defence seemed to allow them space to play.  Second half was far better all round and I was disappointed that we didn't get the win; I'm sure that they will be relived that they managed to get a point.  What I find most frustrating is our apparent insistence on playing the ball laterally in front of our goal; all it serves to do is invite their forwards to have a go at disrupting, something they managed to do successfully a number of times this afternoon.  We are a good team capable of beating anyone in this league on our day, however, it relies on us dictating the pace to the opposition and playing direct football.  This, I suggest, was the main difference between the first and second half today.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 23, 2018, 06:12:40 PM
Does anyone know what the attendance was yesterday as I cant find it anywhere .
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 23, 2018, 06:19:10 PM
Does anyone know what the attendance was yesterday as I cant find it anywhere .

1076 is on John Laidlar’s site.
Title: Re: Darlington - Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 23, 2018, 06:49:50 PM
Does anyone know what the attendance was yesterday as I cant find it anywhere .

1076 is on John Laidlar’s site.

Thanks decent crowd