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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on November 14, 2018, 07:15:30 PM
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I know it has been said a few times on here but Phil Parkinson and Neil Sorvel deserve so much credit.
I just love how we play football. A friend who supports Blackburn came against Chester and hadn't seen Alty for a few years and he was genuinely impressed and is now coming against York.
I do tend to be harsh and pick the negatives but for the first time in years and years I have faith in the management team to pick the right team and they appear to know a decent player.
I do respect people's decision not to come down anymore but you really are punishing yourselves.
I would love to see some old faces get behind this manager and team.
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Spot on
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I concur
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They were excellent on Saturday at Chester FC..
They are very pleasing on the eye when they click. PP and NS can be proud of there charges.
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Top post. Loving watching Alty at the moment
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Agreed-they’ve gone about restoring pride last season and now beginning to approach our proper level in the Pyramid again. The football the best seen for me since the Conference North play off final win season under Sinnott 5 years ago too. It’s pleasing on the eye with a modern progressive style but balanced with a defence that has got better as the season has gone on.
The only thing I would say (as I’ve no doubt PP reads the forum regularly) is I hope PP dials his post match comments down too, appears to see enemies and criticism at every corner. If he wants to manage bigger clubs than us (and again I’ve got no doubt he does in good time) then he needs to develop a thicker skin. The odd comment here or there from a fan base of 1000 odd shouldn’t be taken to heart so much.
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The connection between the fans and the team and management is better than I can remember in a long time...
PP has done a great job and is beginning to get to grips with this league and we are getting better...chester was a joy.
I think the board has improved but a certain person needs to do the decent thing instead of patting himself on the back.
I'm still coming to the matches because I want to support PP and the team....it's not the same though without familiar faces and there is a very sad undercurrent.
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Agreed.
I actually look forward to the game on an away day now. In the past it was just something to do (and get annoyed at) between pubs.
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The initial post was great; and I also have no problems with any of the board either. Lessons have been learnt all round and everybody at the club deserves credit including the chairman and the management team and through to the players.
It is great to see the club on the up, but I would plead with PP and Neil to stick with us and see how far they can take us. I am not discounting us as a league team in the next 5 years or so. Everybody see, including the fans who have elected to stay away, how strong we now are all the way through from board to team and all the fans. Come back lads, and lets all boost the club even further.
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Oliie out ! Great post
He is a great appointment as is Neil
Well done all
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Oliie out ! Great post
He is a great appointment as is Neil
Well done all
Surprised you still remember my name it has been that long since you stood on the terraces. I hope to see you there on Saturday.
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The initial post was great; and I also have no problems with any of the board either. Lessons have been learnt all round and everybody at the club deserves credit including the chairman and the management team and through to the players.
It is great to see the club on the up, but I would plead with PP and Neil to stick with us and see how far they can take us. I am not discounting us as a league team in the next 5 years or so. Everybody see, including the fans who have elected to stay away, how strong we now are all the way through from board to team and all the fans. Come back lads, and lets all boost the club even further.
To be fair Steve you'd probably back the board if they sold your house from under you and dissolved your pension.
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My opinion which I am entitled to Rocky, your replacement of the positive with the negative - aside from very mild abuse - flies in the face of what is happening at the club at present. Credit where credit is due.
No need for your response.
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The only thing I would say (as I’ve no doubt PP reads the forum regularly) is I hope PP dials his post match comments down too, appears to see enemies and criticism at every corner. If he wants to manage bigger clubs than us (and again I’ve got no doubt he does in good time) then he needs to develop a thicker skin. The odd comment here or there from a fan base of 1000 odd shouldn’t be taken to heart so much.
Yes, I’d agree with that. Clearly got a lot going for him as a manager, but hasn’t yet developed the thick skin and mental strength required to manage at a higher level, or at a bigger more demanding football club. The focus of his comments last couple of weeks in the SAM have been particularly strange. But he is only young and still learning. And that might be good news for us. The longer he stays around the better the way it’s going.
I do respect people's decision not to come down anymore but you really are punishing yourselves.
I would love to see some old faces get behind this manager and team.
Appreciate the point you're making, and I’m sure it’s an enjoyable time (on the pitch) to be watching, but I don’t think the missing fans (or any Alty fans for that matter) signed up to be Altrincham supporters based on the quality of football. And I’d be surprised if it is the quality of the football being played at the time the current chairman finally leaves that influences any of those Alty fans decision to start paying their gate money again for home games.
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The only thing I would say (as I’ve no doubt PP reads the forum regularly) is I hope PP dials his post match comments down too, appears to see enemies and criticism at every corner. If he wants to manage bigger clubs than us (and again I’ve got no doubt he does in good time) then he needs to develop a thicker skin. The odd comment here or there from a fan base of 1000 odd shouldn’t be taken to heart so much.
Yes, I’d agree with that. Clearly got a lot going for him as a manager, but hasn’t yet developed the thick skin and mental strength required to manage at a higher level, or at a bigger more demanding football club. The focus of his comments last couple of weeks in the SAM have been particularly strange. But he is only young and still learning. And that might be good news for us. The longer he stays around the better the way it’s going.
I do respect people's decision not to come down anymore but you really are punishing yourselves.
I would love to see some old faces get behind this manager and team.
Appreciate the point you're making, and I’m sure it’s an enjoyable time (on the pitch) to be watching, but I don’t think the missing fans (or any Alty fans for that matter) signed up to be Altrincham supporters based on the quality of football. And I’d be surprised if it is the quality of the football being played at the time the current chairman finally leaves that influences any of those Alty fans decision to start paying their gate money again for home games.
Will always respect people's own decisions mate. Just a shame, as I would like to see yourself and some of the other faces I have stood alongside for years enjoy this team and manager. Not trying persuade people to come back just being purely selfish in my opinion.
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Oliie out ! Great post
He is a great appointment as is Neil
Well done all
Surprised you still remember my name it has been that long since you stood on the terraces. I hope to see you there on Saturday.
ouch harsh but fair been crazy busy at home and work . Ill give you a big hug on saturday
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On a serious note, when do we have to start worrying about bigger clubs coming in for Phil and Neil?
Macc still haven't appointed a manager, for example - but that might just be a leap too far at the moment and they might go with the caretakers for the remainder of the season and then rebuild in the summer.
Wrexham's manager is being touted by Shrewsbury - again, another club on Phil's likely geographical patch.
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Marple Alty, if I am honest this has been niggling at me a little too.
However, I do think Phil and Neil are happy here, and are enjoying their roles. I know they are contracted until the end of this season, but I would be happier if the club could renew their contract by two or even three years. This would give them a chance to see where they can take us, after all the club are supposed to have a 5 year plan. Phil, Neil and the players are an important part of this, but I think Phil would be wrong to leave now when the club is on the up, to take over a club where has got to start all over again. Already the club has grown immensely since their arrival and can go so much further. I feel Phil and Neil would be wrong to leave after what they have achieved so far.
Likewise it is also wise for the club maybe to extend their contract and I would like to know where we stand with this.
I honestly think we should capitalize on now and have another fan/board/management meeting. At least it would also enable to give praise where it is due to the players maybe also, because believe me they darn well deserve it. I think this team has the potential to take us forward eventually back to the National League and maybe beyond, but that is in the future. The club should try and build on this, but I am sure plans are probrably already in place.
Board/management, can we have another meeting, we need to build on what is happening!!
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Good, upcoming managers seem to have the knack of moving on at exactly the right time for them, usually when they deem that they have taken the club as far as they can. That way their CV is always healthy. Danny Cowley was obviously not going to go any further with a club like Braintree (and so it has proved) and is now doing the same at Lincoln. Watch him get them promoted this year and then move up to a Championship club. Yes PP and Neil will move on, but when it is right for them and nothing we can do in terms of contract extensions will affect that, I suspect.
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Good, upcoming managers seem to have the knack of moving on at exactly the right time for them, usually when they deem that they have taken the club as far as they can. That way their CV is always healthy. Danny Cowley was obviously not going to go any further with a club like Braintree (and so it has proved) and is now doing the same at Lincoln. Watch him get them promoted this year and then move up to a Championship club. Yes PP and Neil will move on, but when it is right for them and nothing we can do in terms of contract extensions will affect that, I suspect.
Interesting that we're discussing the prospect of our management team moving on to better things. When did that last happen (not counting the views of Matt Doughty's wife) ?
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IF the day comes, I think the club will have learned their lesson and will look another manager on an upward trajectory.
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Good, upcoming managers seem to have the knack of moving on at exactly the right time for them, usually when they deem that they have taken the club as far as they can. That way their CV is always healthy. Danny Cowley was obviously not going to go any further with a club like Braintree (and so it has proved) and is now doing the same at Lincoln. Watch him get them promoted this year and then move up to a Championship club. Yes PP and Neil will move on, but when it is right for them and nothing we can do in terms of contract extensions will affect that, I suspect.
Interesting that we're discussing the prospect of our management team moving on to better things. When did that last happen (not counting the views of Matt Doughty's wife) ?
Ken McKenna to Morecambe.
Or perhaps Neil Tolson to FC Wisconsin...?
http://fcwisconsin.com/former-english-premier-league-footballer-neil-tolson-joins-fc-wisconsin-coaching-staff (http://fcwisconsin.com/former-english-premier-league-footballer-neil-tolson-joins-fc-wisconsin-coaching-staff)
http://fcwisconsin.com/getting-to-know-new-fc-wisconsin-coach-and-former-premier-league-player-neil-tolson (http://fcwisconsin.com/getting-to-know-new-fc-wisconsin-coach-and-former-premier-league-player-neil-tolson)
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The same Neil Tolson that will be regarded as one of our worst managers?
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The same Neil Tolson that will be regarded as one of our worst managers?
Possibly..........but I think it was more of a bad appointment really
He took over a team 'on the way down' after Lee bailed and could not turn it around. He was the assistant manager when we won promotion a few years ago and I bet now that he wishes he had left when LS did..............just a thought
I thought Jim Harvey was 'the man' when he was appointed, but he was worse than ever
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The same Neil Tolson that will be regarded as one of our worst managers?
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Wisconsin ? Milwaukee is in Wisconsin, and is to the USA what Burton on Trent is to the UK. Jerry Lee Lewis sang "What made Milwaukee famous has made a loser out of me". No beer necessary in this case I suspect.
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I believe the Fonz was also from Milwaukee
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Wisconsin is also famous for cheese.
To get an idea of how high profile this appointment is, I asked an internet friend who lives in the state what he knew. He likes football, but only the daft American kind, and although he knows Germantown, where the club play, well, as they were in his high school sporting conference, he had never heard of FC Wisconsin, let alone Neil Tolson. Oh, well. He did wish him good luck, though.
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PP has spoken a lot of his desire for full time football, so I think a lot could depend on how well the club are able to match his own ambitions in this regard. That aside, however, I think it's an inevitable (if unfortunate) bi-product of success when people start to take an interest in your prize assets, so it shows we are heading in the right direction if people are starting to worry about this kind of thing.
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PP has spoken a lot of his desire for full time football, so I think a lot could depend on how well the club are able to match his own ambitions in this regard. That aside, however, I think it's an inevitable (if unfortunate) bi-product of success when people start to take an interest in your prize assets, so it shows we are heading in the right direction if people are starting to worry about this kind of thing.
Worry about it if we go up or finsh in a play off position ,even then I cant see a football leagure club going for them , conference national yes
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Yes, most likely.
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Rumour is a straight swap for the chosen one and his backroom staff...................
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Rumour is a straight swap for the chosen one and his backroom staff...................
No thanks SBL!
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Wrexham position now vacant...
Reckon they'll go for Askey.
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Wrexham position now vacant...
Reckon they'll go for Askey.
Seems they are more likely to use Graham Barrow and see how it goes first
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Probably worth mentioning that they have chosen their last couple of managers really well - both have moved on to League One.
If they're looking for an upwardly mobile manager and not interested in the likes of Morrell, Askey (or Barrow long term) then I'd be concerned.
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Not in running from what I can see on sky bet harry kewell who lives in Hale is.