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Title: Guiseley match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 26, 2018, 08:03:04 AM
We need to build on yesterday's performance,  and it would seem to be a good time to play Guiseley,  who haven't pulled up too many trees so far.

JJ is almost certainly going to be out - anyone who watched him limp up the touchline after the game yesterday will be worrying further ahead than Monday. He's a big miss.

PP will probably put Daniels in his place (he takes a decent corner, though I'm otherwise unimpressed), but I would move Dale to the right and bring in Harrop on the left to give us the pace that JJ usually provides.

I take us to win 2-0.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: AFC56 on August 26, 2018, 08:21:00 AM
We need to build on yesterday's performance,  and it would seem to be a good time to play Guiseley,  who haven't pulled up too many trees so far.

JJ is almost certainly going to be out - anyone who watched him limp up the touchline after the game yesterday will be worrying further ahead than Monday. He's a big miss.

PP will probably put Daniels in his place (he takes a decent corner, though I'm otherwise unimpressed), but I would move Dale to the right and bring in Harrop on the left to give us the pace that JJ usually provides.

I take us to win 2-0.

Harrop actually came to the club as a left winger, it was only the injury crisis in central midfield that meant to he filled in and did really well. I too would like to see Harrop on a wing in place of JJ if he is injured.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 26, 2018, 08:38:06 AM
Daniels will probably need a stormer(stormy)  for his loan to be extended. No pun intended.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 26, 2018, 09:35:20 AM
I wouldn’t get too complacent about Guiseley (as I’m sure Phil won’t be) - they’ve played 5 out of the current top 8 and haven’t embarrassed themselves in that time.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: oneedham on August 26, 2018, 09:53:31 AM
Wynne

LB Hampson -if fit
RB Densmore
CB Hannigan
CB Jones

DM Moult
CM Williams
LM Harrop - if JJ isn't fit. He would do well out wide
RM Dale

No.10 Hancock
CF Hulme
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 26, 2018, 09:54:59 AM
Will be at the game tomorrow. Hoping yesterday was the start of a decent run of results.
Guiseley won't be a pushover

Alty 2-1 Guiseley
Att. 1177.
Hulme and Harrop scorers.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Fairfield Alty on August 26, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Match odds

Altrincham 5/4

Draw 5/2

Guiseley 7/4

Need to take momentum from Saturday in to Monday. In reply to MarpleAlty We shouldn't be complacent about any opponents

in this league or any other competition and I'm sure you're right in saying the management team won't be.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: wayno on August 26, 2018, 10:04:14 PM
Alty win 3 1 1234 fans . The teaser flag makes an appearance
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Jenga on August 27, 2018, 01:01:05 PM
The teaser flag makes an appearance

Cant see it happening to be honest. The current flag holder is apathetic.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: oneedham on August 27, 2018, 05:13:23 PM
Can someone order a cab for Daniels. Pathetic footballer.

Took far too long to make the sub. We clearly needed a change earlier.

Missed Hancock,only had Hulme in and around the 6 yard box. Sat too deep and didn't get enough players forward and into the box.

Terrible positioning for attacking set pieces. Some decent balls in but no-one in the 6 yard area.

White didn't do bad but we miss Hampson making runs on the left.

Dale seems lively but needs to improve on his first touch. Reminds me of Elliot Newby. I think he'll do well.

Bloody change the way we shoot each half. At least give it a go as we are not getting the results.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Old Alt on August 27, 2018, 05:24:28 PM
Unlucky today, against a very physical Guisley team who just came here for the draw, the time wasting after they scored was obvious to everyone.
After weathering the storm in the first half, we were by far the better team and were playing well, we had a number of chances and our mistake, was that we should have capitalised on one of these.
Given that we were missing a number of regular players, there were some good performances, Hannigan at the back threw himself in front of everything, it was no fault of his that the goal came from a shot from outside the area.  Overall we played well at the back, I cannot remember Wynne making a save.
Plenty of positives, Williams looks to provide a useful link in midfield, Harrop was his usual busy self and Dale played soome good balls into the area. Less said about Daniels the better, why it took 70 minutes to substitute him I will never know, it was good to see James Poole back.
Hopefully Johnson and Hancock will return, we just needed their creativity up front, there were a few times when Hulme was in the box on his own with no support.
Disappointed about losing the two points, we were better than that, we need to be beating teams like Guisley.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on August 27, 2018, 05:40:40 PM
James Poole did more in the handful of minutes he was on the pitch than the player he replaced did all game. Daniels can go back to Port Vale now. I'm sure they'll find someone else to loan him to as there's no way he's good enough to play in in League Two. This was just like the game against FCUM. Getting the ball in the right areas but not able to finish. Defence-wise looked ok today. Guiseley always posed a threat so the goal was nothing to fret about. We need Hampson, Hancock, Johnston and Poole all fit and starting (I have an o level in stating the obvious). Also need Peers fit and an option for the last fifteen minutes. I'm also happy for Wynne to keep his place. Four goals at home and ten away tells you something but i'm not sure what.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: JD on August 27, 2018, 05:46:44 PM
On the Radio Robins forum I asked at half time how soon would Poole come on for Daniels: too late is the answer!

2 points lost at home and I am not sure there isn't a coincidence their goal was just after Hulme talked himself into a suspension; loss of concentration I guess not closing down their players.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 27, 2018, 06:11:24 PM
Definitely 2 points dropped, think they only had the shot on target. The conceded goal was Fcutd all over.

The Harrop miss was the one. Don't think we were too considering no Hancock and Johnson.

Can't have a go at White for not getting forward when he has Daniels in front of him.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Mick on August 27, 2018, 06:19:01 PM
Agree with most of the above - the fella from Vale has not improved since his first game and cannot see why he was in the starting line up today other than we lacked options

They always had a goal in them with their physical 'direct' approach and hence it was important we took our chances today  - all in all not a bad performance considering no Hampson, Hancock and Johnson
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 27, 2018, 06:41:51 PM
You’d have taken 4/6 from the two BH games but frustration at home once again. We definitely have to beat Curzon in 2 weeks lest this lack of a home win becomes a millstone round our necks. How Hulme has got booked 5 times in 7 games too despite his goal scoring reflects badly-he needs to sort his discipline out.

A non Alty fan pal who went today messaged me to say ‘that winger from Port Vale looks crap’. Glad his loan spell is now up, he’s added very little it seems. He added that a more physical plan B up front might be an idea. Also got some sympathy with that viewpoint.

10 games when the league table really takes shape but 11th out of 22 is still a very reasonable start for a promoted team and now the games start to thin out a bit hopefully we can get and keep all our players fully fit.

Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Jezza on August 27, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
We've been lucky in the last few years to have players come on loan here and contribute and go back to their clubs better players and always welcome back at Alty.

Daniels will be fittingly remembered as not arsed.....a very disappointing attitude.

As opposed to Dale who's attitude and effort seems spot on.

As for today another 2 points dropped in a game we should have won....ok for consolidation but we have seen enough surely to realise the play offs are doable.....it's the midfield who should be closing down these runs from just inside the half way line that end up with the ball in the bottom corner...
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on August 27, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
Disappointing to drop two points today but a huge improvement over our last home showing against Boston. I'm not sure Williams and Harrop work together well - last season Max was playing deeper than he has this and Sean in that position, whilst being industrious, does not offer the same goal threat that Max does when when playing from deep - in the first half Max played a lot with his back to goal which doesn't really suit him. 2nd half he played deeper and was involved more. James Poole's pass delivery was different class and when he's fully fit he'll be running with the ball again and offering another goalscoring threat. Thought Owen Dale did well with Dens guiding him at times. Another disappointing showing from Daniels - he's probably a better player than we've seen. We missed Josh Hancock again I think.

Do goalkeepers choose there own kits? - if so why had their's come dressed as a flamingo? :)
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on August 27, 2018, 07:27:55 PM
To say this is a game we should have won doesn't take into a account Guiseley's record of recent form. Certainly a game we could have won, but also a game they could have won. Neither team was particularly effective in front of goal.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: AFC56 on August 27, 2018, 07:33:31 PM
Can someone order a cab for Daniels. Pathetic footballer.

Took far too long to make the sub. We clearly needed a change earlier.

Missed Hancock,only had Hulme in and around the 6 yard box. Sat too deep and didn't get enough players forward and into the box.

Terrible positioning for attacking set pieces. Some decent balls in but no-one in the 6 yard area.

White didn't do bad but we miss Hampson making runs on the left.

Dale seems lively but needs to improve on his first touch. Reminds me of Elliot Newby. I think he'll do well.

Bloody change the way we shoot each half. At least give it a go as we are not getting the results.

I agree with most of that. We weren’t quite good enough to deserve the 3 points. Once we have everybody back fit and settled we’ll be ok. Daniels was very disapointing, it was like playing with 10 men before he went off. For whatever reason it’s not worked out for him at Alty. Hopefully that’s the last we see of him.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 27, 2018, 07:47:57 PM
We need someone to support Jordon up top. Probably the reason for his bookings (frustration). I was led to believe Daniels was meant to support him . Daniels legs can't even support himself as he spends most of the game on his fkn arse. I'd happily make a detour back to Shropshire and drop him off at Port Vale...

Best thing about today.......... The return of one James Poole...

Thought Dens and Mault were good..
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 27, 2018, 08:36:29 PM
Whilst I won't miss Daniels, I would point out that his excellent deep corner led to our goal. I must have blinked and missed Hulme's booking (I did notice Harrop's). I thought the draw was about fair.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: VofD on August 27, 2018, 08:59:47 PM
We need someone to support Jordon up top. Probably the reason for his bookings (frustration). I was led to believe Daniels was meant to support him . Daniels legs can't even support himself as he spends most of the game on his fkn arse. I'd happily make a detour back to Shropshire and drop him off at Port Vale...

Best thing about today.......... The return of one James Poole...

Thought Dens and Mault were good..

I thought he looked a bit overweight today. Hopefully, his condition will improve with a few more matches under his belt.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on August 27, 2018, 09:05:01 PM
Whilst I won't miss Daniels, I would point out that his excellent deep corner led to our goal. I must have blinked and missed Hulme's booking (I did notice Harrop's). I thought the draw was about fair.

Ditto, on all counts. I thought we looked like we were heading towards a deserved victory until their goal out of the blue, but after that Guiseley ended the game very strongly, so I thought a draw was fair, too.

Maybe the players should on a coach trip before each home game so it feels like an away match? ;)
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: roytonmike on August 27, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
Whilst I won't miss Daniels, I would point out that his excellent deep corner led to our goal. I must have blinked and missed Hulme's booking (I did notice Harrop's). I thought the draw was about fair.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who wasn't aware that Hulme had ben booked. Maybe he'll learn a lesson by being suspended? I wonder if there is an internal fines system in place for bookings, particularly for dissent - if there isn't, perhaps there should be?
I thought the result was fair to both sides, by the way.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on August 27, 2018, 10:17:22 PM
Not sure if many have seen the Phil Parkinson's interview after today's game. Certainly agree with him about how we were so much better defensively today, thought we looked pretty solid in dealing with the long throws and corners Guiseley had.  He also said that he thought we should have won by a country mile today. I thought that was an exaggeration, I think we probably did deserve to win based on the
chances we had in the  last 15 mins of the first half and for a lot of the 2nd half, though we didn't really test their keeper much overall.


Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 27, 2018, 11:06:47 PM
We should have won today, first half we should have been 2 up at least. They scored with there only shot on target I believe (also told took a huge deflection). So to take a point is disappointing. The defence did look quite solid today but we missed Josh and JJ today. Other than Poole, no forward options on the bench. Thought Moult was my man of the match.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: buchanj9 on August 27, 2018, 11:12:38 PM
Is that Jordan out for the game against blyth? Is peers fit to come in as he wasnt on the bench today, think he was injured in a reserves game?
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 27, 2018, 11:45:16 PM
Is that Jordan out for the game against blyth? Is peers fit to come in as he wasnt on the bench today, think he was injured in a reserves game?
He's OK for Blyth, will miss Curzon at home.
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: T.C on August 28, 2018, 09:58:38 AM
what makes Daniels loan doubley disappointing is that we appear to have let Sean Miller go to accommodate him. Miller would have been a much better option in my opinion. Have we heard were he's gone
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: oneedham on August 28, 2018, 11:25:16 AM
what makes Daniels loan doubley disappointing is that we appear to have let Sean Miller go to accommodate him. Miller would have been a much better option in my opinion. Have we heard were he's gone

Totally agree, I said we potentially may regret not signing him up. Miller without any doubt would have been more influential. Last week I was trying to Google where he is now, without any joy?
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: Jezza on August 29, 2018, 08:17:55 AM
I don't think he has a club....

We don't know that he wasn't offered a pay per play deal and turned it down and despite his good showing pre season his injury maybe still against him.

I have no doubt he was back to his best and would have created more than Daniels did and had a better attitude.

Interesting that Trafford haven't taken him on......

Perhaps he'll get back in touch and ask to play for the reserves but I suspect we may have seen the last of him....

He may be an ideal replacement for chris senior? ;D
Title: Re: Guiseley match thread
Post by: wayno on August 29, 2018, 09:30:16 AM
I don't think he has a club....

We don't know that he wasn't offered a pay per play deal and turned it down and despite his good showing pre season his injury maybe still against him.

I have no doubt he was back to his best and would have created more than Daniels did and had a better attitude.

Interesting that Trafford haven't taken him on......

Perhaps he'll get back in touch and ask to play for the reserves but I suspect we may have seen the last of him....

He may be an ideal replacement for chris senior? ;D
where is chris senior these days do we know ?

It has bothered me over the years