www.altyfans.co.uk

General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: HashtagAlty on August 18, 2018, 04:53:45 PM

Title: Absymal
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 18, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Perhaps StatsZone can tell us our passing accuracy (I suspect it's under 10%).

Parkinson's worst performance. One of the poorest showings I've seen in a long while at Moss Lane. No confidence, barely any football either.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Jezza on August 18, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
Beaten by the better more experienced side.
We only made one decent signing all summer and that was a centre half...essentially we are an evostick side.
Parky needs to show some understanding this league...
That was just like our relegation season...with essentially the same midfield.....and essentially jordan fighting off 2 burly savvy centre halves.
Parky should not undersetimate the power of a losing streak at this level.
Overall that was a shocking display of football for £13..
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: dunhamalty on August 18, 2018, 05:06:00 PM
Our signings in the summer were poor. Sean Williams is worse than what we have and looks lost. Harrop deserved his chance at this level but just isn’t good enough. Need a centre mid in ASAP.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 18, 2018, 05:39:51 PM
Not a disaster just yet, but it will be if he doesnt find his best XI quickly (Clue: its the team that won the Evo Stik).

From the looks of things I assume he's persisting with the 433? If so, he needs to accept it hasn't worked and revert back to 4231.

I'd rather see us have a proper no10 that can put his foot on the ball (Hancock, Peers) than an extra central midfielder.

We miss Poole badly. One player we know to have quality at this level. Exactly the same as our start to last season.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: oneedham on August 18, 2018, 05:41:34 PM
Men against boys. They were stronger from 1 to 11, physical and organised.
We need a striker.
I like Moult but he is far too slow at this level. In certain games against a less mobile mid it will work but we need to accept he is too slow.
Their number 6 was immense.
I think we have good defenders but none are the quickest.
I still think Peers needs a chance, I appreciate he isn't technical but sometimes strength and determination is needed at this level.
They were so determined and bossed us.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: oneedham on August 18, 2018, 05:47:13 PM
We aready look worn out.
We need to increase fitness levels and strength.
Swap the way we shoot next home game,worth a try. I am that superstitious about it.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 18, 2018, 05:56:51 PM
We aready look worn out.
We need to increase fitness levels and strength.
Swap the way we shoot next home game,worth a try. I am that superstitious about it.
Since we only had one shot, we might as well have kicked across the pitch.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 18, 2018, 05:59:51 PM
We aready look worn out.
We need to increase fitness levels and strength.
Swap the way we shoot next home game,worth a try. I am that superstitious about it.

MASSIVE straw clutching!
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 18, 2018, 06:00:47 PM
Pedestrian, you won’t win a football match without having a shot on goal in 90 minutes. Did a right job on us today Boston. A side in recent years we’ve dispatched 7-1 and 6-1. A few elbows and scrapes off them and we started hiding. Welcome to big school....
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 18, 2018, 06:07:05 PM
Woeful. Whilst accepting that Boston were decent, we contributed nothing throughout.

We repeatedly gave the ball away, left acres of space at the back, and couldn't even do the basics.

We need to be much more direct, and stop playing the ball across our own area or backwards.

The referee was garbage, but it didnt much matter.

Harrop deserved his MOM. I really didnt understand why he was hooked when others were poorer.

Finally, Hulme. Another stupid and totally inexcusable booking, which meant that he became ineffective. We need his aggression, but he absolutely MUST learn to channel it better.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Alty Bri on August 18, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
We were thoroughly bullied today by a very professional team who barely broke sweat. No point blaming a poor ref; I don't recall us having a single shot on target all afternoon. They could and should have had 3.
Where do we go from here? In some respects Boston represent the benchmark. We need to be able to compete with teams like that but with largely Evostik players, that will be difficult.
One thing for certain is that Jordan is isolated and needs more support. JJ was anonymous today and so was Hancock. Defensively we also looked very fragile. We have 4 quality central defenders and PP needs to decide on his favoured 2 and give them time to form a partnership in this league.
We probably need another striker if Daniels isn't going to come good.
White was dreadful. I'd probably go with Dens for now. I also don't believe TT is inspiring much confidence in his defenders. Yes, we need Poole back ASAP.
Anyway, onwards and upwards. Up the Alty.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: oneedham on August 18, 2018, 06:45:25 PM
We aready look worn out.
We need to increase fitness levels and strength.
Swap the way we shoot next home game,worth a try. I am that superstitious about it.

MASSIVE straw clutching!

It makes a difference. Look at he results last season. One big reason is that it makes for a better atmosphere,always has done, and that will get the lads up for it.  I am not the only one who thinks the same.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: oneedham on August 18, 2018, 06:48:11 PM
Woeful. Whilst accepting that Boston were decent, we contributed nothing throughout.

We repeatedly gave the ball away, left acres of space at the back, and couldn't even do the basics.

We need to be much more direct, and stop playing the ball across our own area or backwards.

The referee was garbage, but it didnt much matter.

Harrop deserved his MOM. I really didnt understand why he was hooked when others were poorer.

Finally, Hulme. Another stupid and totally inexcusable booking, which meant that he became ineffective. We need his aggression, but he absolutely MUST learn to channel it better.

Agree about Hulme, he needs to be careful,I said the same as you. He then had to second think every challenge, seems to be carrying a knock.

It happened last season,Moult needs to drag him and Harrop away,he never does that, even though they are adults.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: oneedham on August 18, 2018, 06:52:55 PM
We were thoroughly bullied today by a very professional team who barely broke sweat. No point blaming a poor ref; I don't recall us having a single shot on target all afternoon. They could and should have had 3.
Where do we go from here? In some respects Boston represent the benchmark. We need to be able to compete with teams like that but with largely Evostik players, that will be difficult.
One thing for certain is that Jordan is isolated and needs more support. JJ was anonymous today and so was Hancock. Defensively we also looked very fragile. We have 4 quality central defenders and PP needs to decide on his favoured 2 and give them time to form a partnership in this league.
We probably need another striker if Daniels isn't going to come good.
White was dreadful. I'd probably go with Dens for now. I also don't believe TT is inspiring much confidence in his defenders. Yes, we need Poole back ASAP.
Anyway, onwards and upwards. Up the Alty.

Agree White was terrible,he was decent against Southport (only real performance I have ever seen from him) and I think he was trying to make a point against his former club. Need that level performance each game. We need a fit Dens back.

JJ has been poor the last two games but we need him. I would look at signing Miller if he is still available.

TT is as slow as Moult, those two passing it to each other stops my heartbeat.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 18, 2018, 06:58:07 PM
I’ll just add as an aside after reading twitter , anyone referencing that year we had a load of managers with dementia that signed a load of sex offenders in the conference north  needs to have a word with themselves, that’s not benchmark
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on August 18, 2018, 07:11:02 PM
Poor today when we had to wait until 10 mins from the end for a proper effort on goal. Can't say I was that impressed with Boston though  they did deserve to win, just a solid looking team who denied us space in the last third. Something we need to  start doing asap. Think Hulme really has to bite his tongue during games, yes the ref was poor but he keeps picking up silly bookings. Also thought he made a meal of that challenge in the 2nd half when he went down holding his face, not sure the defender did much wrong and a bit disappointing to see. Maybe the Daniels effect!!
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: robininstockport on August 18, 2018, 07:18:02 PM
If you think white was terrible I'm stumped.

No doubt we're in a bad place . If there's 3 teams worse than us I'd be grateful.

They hustled us all afternoon, I'd imagine every other team in the league will do the same.

Looked much better when Daniels came on. If Hancock plays it has to be in the hole.

Johnson and Williams don't look good enough at this level.

Hannigan and Goulding looked ok
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 18, 2018, 07:20:06 PM
I’ll just add as an aside after reading twitter , anyone referencing that year we had a load of managers with dementia that signed a load of sex offenders in the conference north  needs to have a word with themselves, that’s not benchmark

Dementia is a serious issue and shouldn't really be used in jest tbh and while it did make me chuckle did we did we actually sign any convicted sex offenders that season?
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: JD on August 18, 2018, 07:27:38 PM

One thing for certain is that Jordan is isolated and needs more support.

I felt the same on Tuesday. If we are playing a 4-3-3, where are the other 2 up front? If one of them is crossing the other should be in the centre. and the mids following up behind.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: distancetraveller on August 18, 2018, 07:38:16 PM
Poor display today.. Yes Jordon Hulme should control his temper, but in his defence he needs someone else up top with him. We should have two up top especially at home. For me it's time for a change in keepers. TT kicking is just not good enough at this level.
We also need an alternative system when plan A isn't working.
Over to you PP. I'm sure you will sort it.

Not convinced the lad from Port Vale is the answer. He spends more time on his arse than his feet.

Will be happy to see the return of Poole.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: AFC56 on August 18, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
Poor display today.. Yes Jordon Hulme should control his temper, but in his defence he needs someone else up top with him. We should have two up top especially at home. For me it's time for a change in keepers. TT kicking is just not good enough at this level.
We also need an alternative system when plan A isn't working.
Over to you PP. I'm sure you will sort it.

Not convinced the lad from Port Vale is the answer. He spends more time on his arse than his feet.

Agreed. Today wasn’t good but I’m not sure it was abysmal either. No support up front for Hulme, plan B required when things aren’t working and a change of keeper. Tony’s kicking is rubbish and he looks far to heavy to be agile enough at this level.
Max Harrop was my MOM.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Sale Holmfield on August 18, 2018, 08:18:36 PM
I would agree with most, if not all, of that.  I am not sure why Tom Peers is getting so little game time, and would like to see him given a chance as well as Elliot Wynne.

Trying to put things in perspective, it's a better start than we had last season, and Phil Parkinson was able to turn that around with his team.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: AFC56 on August 18, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
Ben Harrison was sent off for the reserves today. Not sure what that's all about? I would argue that him and Tom should be our first choice pairing.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: andrewflynn on August 18, 2018, 08:48:19 PM
I’ll just add as an aside after reading twitter , anyone referencing that year we had a load of managers with dementia that signed a load of sex offenders in the conference north  needs to have a word with themselves, that’s not benchmark

Agree. Will post a bit more tomorrow when I’ve had time to collect thoughts but 2016-17 should be wiped from the archive. A non-season on the pitch.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Alty wanderer on August 18, 2018, 10:53:52 PM
Predicable again I'm afraid. Boston knew  what was coming and set up accordingly, they harried and pressed us all over the park and we couldn't cope.i admire the way we try and play but too one dimensional. I'm still waiting for plan b. We have some good footballers but nothing that can change the dynamics of the game. More of the same from the bench. Need a Rankine style player as an alternative option and a physical workhorse midfielder. when your backs are against the wall nothing wrong with a bit of route one! How many times have we seen it turn a game when other options are exhausted. Sticking to principles unfortunately will not breed success in a tough physical league.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: cheshire cat on August 18, 2018, 10:58:45 PM
We wern't at the races. With the exception of Jordan Hulme it did look like 2016 -17. Too many players being bullied, not challenging for the ball and not pressuring the opposition when they have possession. I was disgusted that sinclair spent the whole of half time chatting with his mate on the opposition but then he was the only player to have a real effort on goal. I'm glad I'm away for the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on August 19, 2018, 09:29:22 AM
We wern't at the races. With the exception of Jordan Hulme it did look like 2016 -17. Too many players being bullied, not challenging for the ball and not pressuring the opposition when they have possession. I was disgusted that sinclair spent the whole of half time chatting with his mate on the opposition but then he was the only player to have a real effort on goal. I'm glad I'm away for the next two weeks.

Who's Sinclair?
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 19, 2018, 09:42:47 AM
I think he means Daniels, who spent most of the break chatting to his former Alfreton colleague Westcarr.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: cheshire cat on August 19, 2018, 09:51:34 AM
Whoops. Don't know where Sinclair came from. Yes, I meant Daniels.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 19, 2018, 10:41:07 AM
Sinnott syndrome strikes again... fear we maybe in for a mediocre season unless we adapt.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Toff Apple on August 19, 2018, 01:25:20 PM
Wasnt there so hard to judge. Some of these comments and those on social media seems that some must have been bursting last year for us to fail. Lets see how we do over the next five games before over reacting
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: wayno on August 19, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
Wasnt there so hard to judge. Some of these comments and those on social media seems that some must have been bursting last year for us to fail. Lets see how we do over the next five games before over reacting
I fear you are right . We have to stay right behind the team and managment
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: cheshire cat on August 19, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
Some might have an alternative agenda but I'm not looking for an opportunity to bash the club. We were second best during the first half which left me hoping for a 0-0 draw at half time. In the second half they got therir lead and we never looked like we would be able to pull it back. The referee didn't help our cause but Boston always deserved the points.

It was a bitter pill to take but it is the first game out of five where we were outplayed.

Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 19, 2018, 10:08:38 PM
Very good interview I’ve seen tonight though with PP.

Whilst talk is cheap he’s clearly fuming with what we produced yesterday. Also read that we are gradually getting the full squad up to match fitness now. Onto Darlington with hopefully a renewened sense of purpose from the lads after what sounds like it will be 2 hard training sessions this week.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: robininstockport on August 19, 2018, 10:25:44 PM
A very honest interview and I agree 100% with him
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 19, 2018, 10:57:44 PM
A very honest interview and I agree 100% with him

Even if I don't  always agree with PP (on this one I do), there is never a time when I find his comments show any inclination to paper over the cracks. Total respect.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: Sale Holmfield on August 19, 2018, 11:35:46 PM
I am encouraged by that interview. He has acknowledged what went wrong, and stating, as we know, that these players can play better than that, without trying to paper over the cracks, or blame the referee or whatever.

It reminds me of the away game at Matlock early last season where he agreed we were poor, but then turned it around, starting with the following game.
Title: Re: Absymal
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 20, 2018, 11:47:15 AM

It reminds me of the away game at Matlock early last season where he agreed we were poor, but then turned it around, starting with the following game.

Let's hope that history repeats in this instance.