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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on August 12, 2018, 11:18:59 AM
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So, definitely no Poole or Hancock, White must be a doubt. Hopefully Densmore will have come the reserve match ok and be available.
On paper we should turn them over but it's going to a rejigged front 6.
Altrincham 2-0 FCUM (Hulme, Harrop)
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Have we ever beaten them in a competitive game ?
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So, definitely no Poole or Hancock, White must be a doubt. Hopefully Densmore will have come the reserve match ok and be available.
On paper we should turn them over but it's going to a rejigged front 6.
Altrincham 2-0 FCUM (Hulme, Harrop)
Is Bannister not available if Densmore or White aren’t 100% fit?
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I can't recall us beating them competitively, but I think we've only played three fixtures.
Their current form is certainly unimpressive to say the least - two heavy defeats, and throwing away a 3-1 lead at home isn't what their supporters are used to.
However, results in this League so far indicate that strict interpretation of the form book is unwise.
I'f White is out, Id start Goulding at RB with Harrison and Jones in the centre, and play Harrop in Hancock's place.
It would be a bonus if Densmore could be on the bench as a viable substitute, but if he isn't ready I'd consider Bannister for replacement purposes.
Tougher than we expect, but we'll take it 2-1 (Johnston, Harrop). Attendance 1054.
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I'd forgotten about Bannister.
As Goulding has been our best CB I'd leave him there.
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Have we ever beaten them in a competitive game ?
No.
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As of yesterday we were still waiting for international clearance for bannister from
Belgium, which is frankly f**king ridiculous. So much for your European Union.... If it was a player moving to an epl club it would be concluded on the same day. Hopefully some good news before Tuesday. An important game Tuesday, one to keep our decent start going and two because they do have a bit of and Indian sign over us.
Altrincham 2-1 FC United att 1377
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As of yesterday we were still waiting for international clearance for bannister from
Belgium, which is frankly f**king ridiculous. So much for your European Union.... If it was a player moving to an epl club it would be concluded on the same day. Hopefully some good news before Tuesday. An important game Tuesday, one to keep our decent start going and two because they do have a bit of and Indian sign over us.
Altrincham 2-1 FC United att 1377
That's ridiculous!!
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International clearance isn't anything to do with the EU. It's to make sure a player isn't already contracted to another club.
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First game of the season for me, really looking forward to this one and live in hope we turn them over in style.
One of the few sides I have little respect for. The arrogance and expectation of their supporters is beyond belief - imported from the premiership. Will be interesting to see how many turn up. I hope they get behind their team but somehow I doubt it. First real crisis they have had to deal with in their short history, too used to winning. I feel sorry for their genuine fans.
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First game of the season for me, really looking forward to this one and live in hope we turn them over in style.
One of the few sides I have little respect for. The arrogance and expectation of their supporters is beyond belief - imported from the premiership. Will be interesting to see how many turn up. I hope they get behind their team but somehow I doubt it. First real crisis they have had to deal with in their short history, too used to winning. I feel sorry for their genuine fans.
I must say I've never had that impression of them, myself.
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Altrincham 5-2 FC United of Manchester
Johnston, Hulme, Hulme, Peers, Daniels
ATT: 1,206
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First game of the season for me, really looking forward to this one and live in hope we turn them over in style.
One of the few sides I have little respect for. The arrogance and expectation of their supporters is beyond belief - imported from the premiership. Will be interesting to see how many turn up. I hope they get behind their team but somehow I doubt it. First real crisis they have had to deal with in their short history, too used to winning. I feel sorry for their genuine fans.
I must say I've never had that impression of them, myself.
I think a lot of the idiot element they had has now gone since they levelled out at National North level and stopped winning every week. Any FCUM fans I’ve spoken to in the last couple of years seemed to know what they’re talking about and are more than happy to be competing at their current level. I didn’t used to like them due to the idiots already mentioned but now their just a local rival who’ll bring a half decent away following the same as Southport,Stockport,Chester etc.
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Unless I’ve read it wrong there doesn’t appear to be any segregation in place tomorrow night-I don’t think there needs to be to be honest and it will hugely increase the bar takings. Presume this will be a reciprocal deal and we’ll not be on that flat terrace and down the side there later in the season but will have the chance to stand on the main terrace and have a beer.
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Some good points. I hope correct. I've certainly witnessed that I'diot element and arrogance but that was a couple of seasons ago. Poor form is a great way of identifying the real supporters. Looking forward to a good game. I hope they turn up in numbers, you can't knock the atmosphere they can create, that's fact.
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I sincerely hope this is segregated
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Unless I’ve read it wrong there doesn’t appear to be any segregation in place tomorrow night-I don’t think there needs to be to be honest and it will hugely increase the bar takings. Presume this will be a reciprocal deal and we’ll not be on that flat terrace and down the side there later in the season but will have the chance to stand on the main terrace and have a beer.
Where does it say it’s not segregated? Surely that’s a given that it’ll be segregated. If we are putting bar sales ahead of home fans safety and comfort yet again it’ll be an absolute disgrace.
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Could be a big night for the new burger van.
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http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/story.php?story_id=7981
Link I saw there via their Twitter seems to suggest so ‘bar will be open for both sets of supporters before, during and after the game’. Admittedly not seen anything from our side yet so could be mistaken.
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Let’s hope that is only a generic press release and we aren’t being side lined yet again
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Let’s hope that is only a generic press release and we aren’t being side lined yet again
Don't hold your breath.
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Unless I’ve read it wrong there doesn’t appear to be any segregation in place tomorrow night-I don’t think there needs to be to be honest and it will hugely increase the bar takings. Presume this will be a reciprocal deal and we’ll not be on that flat terrace and down the side there later in the season but will have the chance to stand on the main terrace and have a beer.
No thanks. I'll gladly go ninety minutes without a beer in Moston if it means they don't get the run of the Golf Road end tomorrow night. Get them segregated.
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Missing this local game due to prior arrangements
Alty 3-1 FCUM
Att. 1197
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First game back for me, hope daniels gets a goal - feel like we haven't seen his best yet
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Every game against a club expecting to bring 100 plus fans should be segregated .I will be amazed if the fcum game isn't.
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Common sense wins the day
“This match will be segregated and FC United fans will have access to the new catering facilities in the away end. Away fans should enter strictly via turnstiles 3 and 4.
Home supporters will also have additional catering facilities at their disposal with a new bottle bar being located in the Community Sports Hall which should reduce waiting time for service.
Turnstiles will be open from 18:30. We do of course recommend sensible consumption of alcohol.”
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Kudos to the club for finally introducing a bottle bar. Hopefully it gives the bar staff some much needed help at peak times.
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Kudos to the club for finally introducing a bottle bar. Hopefully it gives the bar staff some much needed help at peak times.
This.
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Kudos to the club for finally introducing a bottle bar. Hopefully it gives the bar staff some much needed help at peak times.
Makes sense
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Apologies for setting hares running earlier-the right call on reflection.
More importantly with 3 of the next 4 at home we now have a real opportunity to build on our good start and let’s hope we can break our duck vs FCUM tomorrow.
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no wifi at home phone line is down,so might miss the game,am using laptop with a wifi hotspot
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http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/story.php?story_id=7981
Link I saw there via their Twitter seems to suggest so ‘bar will be open for both sets of supporters before, during and after the game’. Admittedly not seen anything from our side yet so could be mistaken.
That incorrect and misleading piece of information is still appearing on their website.
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http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/story.php?story_id=7981
Link I saw there via their Twitter seems to suggest so ‘bar will be open for both sets of supporters before, during and after the game’. Admittedly not seen anything from our side yet so could be mistaken.
That incorrect and misleading piece of information is still appearing on their website.
Cheers, I've just given them a nudge and suggested they alter it slightly.
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So, definitely no Poole or Hancock, White must be a doubt. Hopefully Densmore will have come the reserve match ok and be available.
On paper we should turn them over but it's going to a rejigged front 6.
Altrincham 2-0 FCUM (Hulme, Harrop)
He went 433 against Spennymoor again didnt he? Not sure if thats just reserved for away games. I think I'd quite like to see Peers given a start at this point, in No10 or out wide.
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Looks like densmore Hannigan and Harrison are starting
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Very strong team. Glad Hannigan is back.
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You can always rely on Alty to ruin your birthday!! Unbelievable!!
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I never want to see that midfield three play on the same team together again.
Zero creativity from them and left the centre backs so exposed for their second goal.
Quicker Pool gets back the better
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Send that lazy diving unfit useless guy back to port vale bring back sean miller and rocca play simon richman at least when williams disappears after 30 mins and fu*^/"ing sort the defence out.
Losing to bottom of the league plastic sh*te is not acceptable and watching 600 plastic fans going mad was as embarassing as that 2nd goal.
Unacceptable!
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And while im on a rant why wasnt there a steward directing away fans to their end outside the turnstiles...why havent we got any ball boys...community club???
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Very disappointing that we had loads of possession but the final ball was so frequently poor.
Ringo was injured in the warm up which is why midfield was as it was.
~FCUMbogy team
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1. We hadn't lost, they hadn't won. Always likely to happen.
2. Three out of the back four hadn't started this season (correct me if i'm wrong). Always likely to happen.
3. Still giving away cheap free kicks on the edge of the box.
4. Still can't defend set pieces. (You feel every free kick is going to lead to a goal, even if its from the resulting corner)
5. Same as last season against stubborn teams, taking too long to get the ball forward so the defence fills up.
6. First game the other team has looked fitter at the end (ok, I wasn't at Spennymoor)
7. Poor across midfield and defence for the second goal. Far too much space given.
8. Their defence looked fresh, hardly surprising as haven't done anything all season.
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Very disappointing that we had loads of possession but the final ball was so frequently poor.
Ringo was injured in the warm up which is why midfield was as it was.
~FCUMbogy team
Agree. Terrible final ball. JJ must have over hit it around 15 times. He had so much room to compose himself but kept trying to get it across first time. Love the lad though,just a poor night.
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FCUM rapidly becoming our ultimate bogey team. Classic Alty, big crowd in, home side favourites, away side struggling-we all know the rest by now.
Averaging 2 goals a game conceded thus far and it’s pretty obvious we have an issue on set pieces particularly. Especially galling tonight with on paper our strongest defence, though they all need more time in their legs given 3 of them missed out on much of pre-season.
Still a reasonable start to the season and no need to panic yet but need to iron out these defensive issues.
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What was the attendance?
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Let's just make sure we are the team that upset Chorley. Get that and I'll forgive tonight.
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Five points dropped this week against one average side and a team who in the bottom three
Could and should be second in the league.
Very disappointed
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Joint second leakiest defence in the league now with Southport on nine. Chorley have not yet conceded a goal!
But we are the highest scorers on ten.
By the way, this time last season we were 19th. Tonight we are 10th.
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What was the attendance?
Announced as 1704 I think.
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A few thoughts, in no particular order...
Perhaps a risk to change 3 of the 4 starters in the back four from Saturday.
I thought Ben Harrison had a decent game.
Dens always need match time to get back to his best.
I haven't been impressed with Daniels so far.
Hancock was badly missed - his contribution can be underrated
Thought Williams was busy but doesn't create much.
Max is another who looks like he needs games under his belt to be firing 100%
Would have liked to see Tom Peers on earlier
JJ's passing was woeful.
Maybe the travelling to/from Spennymoor and a crazy game there took our edge off tonight
No need to panic, we deserved a draw
From where I was stood, James Jones makes a better door than a window
Half time brew was good
Paul
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Too slow allover the pitch.
Despartly need Poole or Hancock back.
Having 2 CBS on the bench is a bit bizzare
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In so many areas we were better...chazing lost causes on several occasions...but no spark or real creativity up front. Too many poor passes.
First game in 7 years for me....bit of a bugger.
One big plus...great to see Dens giving his all.
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A few thoughts, in no particular order...
Perhaps a risk to change 3 of the 4 starters in the back four from Saturday.
I thought Ben Harrison had a decent game.
Dens always need match time to get back to his best.
I haven't been impressed with Daniels so far.
Hancock was badly missed - his contribution can be underrated
Thought Williams was busy but doesn't create much.
Max is another who looks like he needs games under his belt to be firing 100%
Would have liked to see Tom Peers on earlier
JJ's passing was woeful.
Maybe the travelling to/from Spennymoor and a crazy game there took our edge off tonight
No need to panic, we deserved a draw
From where I was stood, James Jones makes a better door than a window
Half time brew was good
Paul
Good post.
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Very disappointing. Played some great football at times but a bit of a reality check. In the first half fc united looked every bit a bottom of the table side. They gifted us time and space but we lacked someone to take responsibility in the final 3rd. We tried to pass the ball into the net.
Nothing's changed much since last season - we play the same predictable passing game which is very pleasing to watch and effective against poor sides. This is a different level. As soon as Fc pressed us in the second half we gave the ball away, were largely ineffective and they took their chances.
I enjoy watching Altys style of football, but in my opinion we lack physicality.and there is still no plan b. Fine against poor sides but very easy to set up against if you have versatile players as many of the top sides will have. Watched Buxton and Workington do it to us last season - this is a whole different level.
Don't think we are in danger of a relegation battle, but at the moment I think we are short of challenging.
Thought Daniels was our main threat, he's got something different, has Hulme lost a yard of pace since last year or is it just the step up in level?
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Thought Daniels was our main threat, he's got something different, has Hulme lost a yard of pace since last year or is it just the step up in level?
Utterly bemused....great post up to that last sentence..
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Just my personal opinion. Say what I saw. First game this season.
Daniels was in and out of the game true, just thought he looked to have that game changing ability in his locker. Hume played well, passing and movement good, just think he doesn't look as sharp as last season.
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Just my personal opinion. Say what I saw. First game this season.
Daniels was in and out of the game true, just thought he looked to have that game changing ability in his locker. Hume played well, passing and movement good, just think he doesn't look as sharp as last season.
Hulme got a knock early on which I don't think he completely ran off. Daniels clearly has talent and with his pace and build should destroy players but surprisingly weak and loves rolling around each game, which also breaks down our attacking play.
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Hulme will stay on his feet and drag three defenders with him. Reminds me of an NFL running back trying to make that last yard. Daniels should try this method and maybe he'll average a goal a game.
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I agree with most comments on here, we are all frustrated with not getting our deserved three points last night. We need to kill opposition off with our domination. Final third let us down last night, key players missing for me. We were leggy near the end and FCUM got their second wind and didnt press them as they advanced.
I believe we can progress in this league. Need time to settle and I am sure PP will recruit other players if and when needed should we not hit the mustard over the coming 6 games or so
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Leamington was a bit of an unknown for me, as first games generally are. Southport was a pleasant surprise, and I came away from Spennymoor bemused not to have won. Last night was such a frustrating loss because it was the first game of the season that held a degree of expectancy much unlike the other three.
It was just so Alty.
Pulling in a crowd triple that of our first Tuesday night Evo-Stik game, seeing a few faces return to the terraces to give it another try, and tripping over our own feet. Its football, but its also a very bad habit this club has had for as long as I've watched them.
Football wise - I know we're better than that, they know they're better than that. I do worry that we didn't really seem to change anything in terms of chasing the game, it was very much just more of the same and hope it comes off. Severely missed Hancock as others have stated. Quite a few heavily reactionary comments in this thread though in my opinion. At least we're in a situation where the problem areas are quite blatant. I'd be more concerned if we were underperforming across the pitch and didn't really know where to start addressing things.
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Leamington was a bit of an unknown for me, as first games generally are. Southport was a pleasant surprise, and I came away from Spennymoor bemused not to have won. Last night was such a frustrating loss because it was the first game of the season that held a degree of expectancy much unlike the other three.
It was just so Alty.
Pulling in a crowd triple that of our first Tuesday night Evo-Stik game, seeing a few faces return to the terraces to give it another try, and tripping over our own feet. Its football, but its also a very bad habit this club has had for as long as I've watched them.
Football wise - I know we're better than that, they know they're better than that. I do worry that we didn't really seem to change anything in terms of chasing the game, it was very much just more of the same and hope it comes off. Severely missed Hancock as others have stated. Quite a few heavily reactionary comments in this thread though in my opinion. At least we're in a situation where the problem areas are quite blatant. I'd be more concerned if we were underperforming across the pitch and didn't really know where to start addressing things.
This, one defeat does not mean players are not up to it, keep the faith
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A question for those at Spennymoor. I know we conceded four but did both central defenders deserve to be dropped last night? I know White was injured but changing three of the back four seems a bit extreme.
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Too slow allover the pitch.
Despartly need Poole or Hancock back.
Having 2 CBS on the bench is a bit bizzare
I would imagine that the reason for having the two centre-backs on the bench was the expectation that one or more of the returning defensive trio wouldn't last the game, whereas in fact they all did. Harrison made a couple of vital tackles in the first half to prevent the opposition scoring, which I would have thought balances out any blame re the winning goal (he wasn't the only one backing off - the opposition gained possession midway inside their own half & proceeded unchallenged from there). All the indications seem to be that Hancock may not be ready till Bank Holiday weekend & Poole wasn't doing much more than running last night, so he may be missing until Daniels' loan runs out (at which point a one-way train ticket back to the Potteries would be my suggestion - he may have something but I haven't seen it in the two home games). Not having been at Spennymoor I don't know how much the energy expended there influenced the tempo last night but it may well have done. We certainly missed Richman in midfield, but fair play to him for as I understand it suggesting that he wouldn't be any use even on the bench given the hamstring tweak.
Two more thoughts - don't take the league table seriously until everybody's played ten games (i.e. till the Cup comes around); & the manager was right when he said there will be ups & downs.
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Too slow allover the pitch.
Despartly need Poole or Hancock back.
Having 2 CBS on the bench is a bit bizzare
I would imagine that the reason for having the two centre-backs on the bench was the expectation that one or more of the returning defensive trio wouldn't last the game, whereas in fact they all did. Harrison made a couple of vital tackles in the first half to prevent the opposition scoring, which I would have thought balances out any blame re the winning goal (he wasn't the only one backing off - the opposition gained possession midway inside their own half & proceeded unchallenged from there). All the indications seem to be that Hancock may not be ready till Bank Holiday weekend & Poole wasn't doing much more than running last night, so he may be missing until Daniels' loan runs out (at which point a one-way train ticket back to the Potteries would be my suggestion - he may have something but I haven't seen it in the two home games). Not having been at Spennymoor I don't know how much the energy expended there influenced the tempo last night but it may well have done. We certainly missed Richman in midfield, but fair play to him for as I understand it suggesting that he wouldn't be any use even on the bench given the hamstring tweak.
Two more thoughts - don't take the league table seriously until everybody's played ten games (i.e. till the Cup comes around); & the manager was right when he said there will be ups & downs.
Surely the reason we had two centre backs on the bench is because we only had 16 fit and available players and four of them are centre backs?
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Too slow allover the pitch.
Despartly need Poole or Hancock back.
Having 2 CBS on the bench is a bit bizzare
I would imagine that the reason for having the two centre-backs on the bench was the expectation that one or more of the returning defensive trio wouldn't last the game, whereas in fact they all did. Harrison made a couple of vital tackles in the first half to prevent the opposition scoring, which I would have thought balances out any blame re the winning goal (he wasn't the only one backing off - the opposition gained possession midway inside their own half & proceeded unchallenged from there). All the indications seem to be that Hancock may not be ready till Bank Holiday weekend & Poole wasn't doing much more than running last night, so he may be missing until Daniels' loan runs out (at which point a one-way train ticket back to the Potteries would be my suggestion - he may have something but I haven't seen it in the two home games). Not having been at Spennymoor I don't know how much the energy expended there influenced the tempo last night but it may well have done. We certainly missed Richman in midfield, but fair play to him for as I understand it suggesting that he wouldn't be any use even on the bench given the hamstring tweak.
Two more thoughts - don't take the league table seriously until everybody's played ten games (i.e. till the Cup comes around); & the manager was right when he said there will be ups & downs.
Surely the reason we had two centre backs on the bench is because we only had 16 fit and available players and four of them are centre backs?
Fair point - hadn't done my sums in that regard!
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I take the point about only 16 fit outfield players.
What's happened to Bannister and have we any players' on dual registration?
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I take the point about only 16 fit outfield players.
What's happened to Bannister and have we any players' on dual registration?
Apparently Bannister is waiting on international clearance from Belgium?
And we had Downing on the bench who is also on dual registration
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A question for those at Spennymoor. I know we conceded four but did both central defenders deserve to be dropped last night? I know White was injured but changing three of the back four seems a bit extreme.
I was in the Sponsors' Lounge before the game, (and at Spennymoor) and in his pre-match Phil Parkinson seemed to be saying that while wasn't scapegoating the young central defenders in the slightest - White was injured - after conceding four goals, he wanted to bring in some older more experienced heads now they were available.
I say "seemed" as the chairman's loud mobile went off, and I couldn't catch all PP was saying!
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Maybe Goulding and Jones were carrying knocks not sure who our best two central defenders are when everyone is fit
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With the cbs, I think it's a case of getting the partnership sorted. I'd like to see Hannigan and Goulding
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It's about the partnerships right across the field. If a sub comes on they need to slot in and understand how the team operates. Didn't always happen last night.