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Title: Salford Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on July 21, 2018, 02:19:37 PM
I assume Sky Sports will be all over it.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 21, 2018, 03:46:27 PM
I hope we will have overhauled the away end tea bar by then.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on July 21, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
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(Translation) welcome to moss lane salford i have no respect for a club that goes so over the top buying the league id rather have jordan hulme play his guts out for less than he could get elsewhere than some overpaid overrated mercenary.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 21, 2018, 06:55:08 PM
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(Translation) welcome to moss lane salford i have no respect for a club that goes so over the top buying the league id rather have jordan hulme play his guts out for less than he could get elsewhere than some overpaid overrated mercenary.

You will have Neville banging out the tweets again😉 let's play em, it will be a good indicator of where were  at, and then  they will probably be gone out of our non league life.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 21, 2018, 06:55:53 PM
I hope we will have overhauled the away end tea bar by then.

Segregation..
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on July 22, 2018, 05:54:11 PM
Could be a record gate for a friendly against a fellow non league side when their circus rolls into town to be fair. Salford have been massively hyped online in recent days. What we’ll get out of it from a football perspective I’m not entirely sure but the free publicity not to be sniffed at. Like a modern day Crawley or Rushden and Diamonds but suspect it will end better than either of them two.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on July 22, 2018, 07:17:02 PM
A very good point about this being a good marker.
Maybe we can nick a few salford fans who will see players
Playing for the shirt and manager..
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on July 22, 2018, 07:44:55 PM
A very good point about this being a good marker.
Maybe we can nick a few salford fans who will see players
Playing for the shirt and manager..

Is that a pig flying overhead?
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 22, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
A very good point about this being a good marker.
Maybe we can nick a few salford fans who will see players
Playing for the shirt and manager..

Is that a pig flying overhead?

Even when the pig crash lands their fans will have no interest in a proper club.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 22, 2018, 09:51:10 PM
I don't really understand why people are getting so steamed up about Salford. We never had much to do with them before and never will much in the future. Let's leave worrying about them until we have to play in the same division again.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Cider Alty on July 24, 2018, 09:21:07 PM
I don't really understand why people are getting so steamed up about Salford. We never had much to do with them before and never will much in the future. Let's leave worrying about them until we have to play in the same division again.
Yeah I tend to agree. I don’t like the fact they had their colour changed from orange to red. The bbc series was interesting. I think the C92 approach to getting a league club is much more healthy for football than what happened to Wimbledon/MK Dons.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 25, 2018, 08:33:40 AM
Never really had much issue with them myself to be honest. They were a brownfield site, in a promising catchment area (you could never surely call them a rugby league place like Warrington/St Helens etc)

Took the wind completely out of FCUM's sails which I quite enjoyed to be honest. Remember when FCUM set up and people were saying 'why not invest in an existing non league team'?

Seems you can't win at this level because nobody particularly likes money.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on July 25, 2018, 11:00:53 AM
I don't really understand why people are getting so steamed up about Salford. We never had much to do with them before and never will much in the future. Let's leave worrying about them until we have to play in the same division again.

Because Alty fans must have at least one other club to whine about. Shaw Lane last season.

Just let them get on with it.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on July 25, 2018, 11:15:13 AM
I don't really understand why people are getting so steamed up about Salford. We never had much to do with them before and never will much in the future. Let's leave worrying about them until we have to play in the same division again.

Because Alty fans must have at least one other club to whine about. Shaw Lane last season.

Just let them get on with it.

Get off that high horse mate, you weren't keen on Shaw Lane.

I don't like Salford, not because they have money, but because we don't have that spending power (on and off the pitch). We don't have the infrastructure they've built up either. They've done it in a very strong way, similar to fleetwood.

They've built on and off the pitch in equal measure.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on July 25, 2018, 11:41:33 AM


I don't like Salford...........because we don't have that spending power
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I love a sound basis for dislike.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on July 25, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
I don't really understand why people are getting so steamed up about Salford. We never had much to do with them before and never will much in the future. Let's leave worrying about them until we have to play in the same division again.

Because Alty fans must have at least one other club to whine about. Shaw Lane last season.

Just let them get on with it.

Get off that high horse mate, you weren't keen on Shaw Lane.

I don't like Salford, not because they have money, but because we don't have that spending power (on and off the pitch). We don't have the infrastructure they've built up either. They've done it in a very strong way, similar to fleetwood.

They've built on and off the pitch in equal measure.

Sounds as though you like them to me.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on July 25, 2018, 11:56:03 AM


I don't like Salford...........because we don't have that spending power

I love a sound basis for dislike.
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Yep, classic. Not because they have money, but because we don't have the same money.

Leave 'em all at it for me. I don't particularly like the nouveau riche non league set either, but in truth that's what many on here have been crying out for, that injection of the magic wad that will make a difference on and off the pitch. Would we turn down the cash and the media exposure if we thought it was a long term prospect? I think not.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on July 25, 2018, 12:14:25 PM
It's the media wankfest thats the main reason for my dislike
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 25, 2018, 12:32:25 PM
I want US to get mega rich, so that I can get off on the whingeing from fans of penniless Macclesfield.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on July 25, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
I am not really bothered by Salford, I'm just utterly bemused at the idea of a Conference player being paid 4 grand a week. I think it's utterly bonkers and puts a lot of pressure on them to be challenging from the outset.

That said, I can honestly say I'd be loving it if Alty were in a position to be that financially competitive and pushing for a place in the football league after years of struggling in and out of lower leagues.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Bob on July 25, 2018, 01:40:25 PM
It's the media wankfest thats the main reason for my dislike

Its going to be inevitable though when you've got a rags to riches story backed by very high profile personalities synonymous with probably the biggest club brand in English football.

The media would have been fools not to get involved given all of that.

They're a freak club, if they go up then fair enough. I don't see them as a direct threat to us and our paths have barely crossed. If that sort of resource had been thrown at us then a lot of our fans would have been ecstatic.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Matt Taylor on July 25, 2018, 02:59:48 PM
If Salford didn't have the financial clout to buy better players to win the Conf North, then there's every chance that we would have spent more than a single season at EvoStik level.
So, as much as some people hate the idea of money in football, we really have nothing to be bitter about in this case.


Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on July 25, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
If Salford didn't have the financial clout to buy better players to win the Conf North, then there's every chance that we would have spent more than a single season at EvoStik level.
So, as much as some people hate the idea of money in football, we really have nothing to be bitter about in this case.




Good point
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: JD on July 25, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
If we can get Salford's cast offs like Hulme then I am ok with them!
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 28, 2018, 05:50:54 PM
My verdict on that game is that is was too windy and I wish I'd worn another jumper.

Oh, and am I right in thinking that was Salford reserves?
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 28, 2018, 06:15:43 PM
My verdict on that game is that is was too windy and I wish I'd worn another jumper.

Oh, and am I right in thinking that was Salford reserves?

A bit of a mixture really. No sign of their 2 main centre halves from last year (Pierganni & Hogan) but Pond will probably start this year & he played, as did Wiseman at RB.

Would have been quite keen to see this £4k p/w lad but he wasn't around either.

For all of the half-chances we had, we didn't seem to have any clear-cut ones, I can't really put my finger on the problem apart from maybe we were trying to walk the ball in the net at times, and whilst the pitches are like bowling greens, JJ is always going to be a threat.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 28, 2018, 06:36:53 PM
I'd put it down to the fact they defended quite well, as on the whole did we.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on July 28, 2018, 07:00:33 PM
Even with the lack of goalmouth action thought it was a decent game. Felt for Jones scoring the og as he'd had a good game.

Can't see us signing Bannister or Downing, although Bannister did impress.

Don't know how many Salfords' were missing but they were bang average for a conference north team
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: buchanj9 on July 28, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
My verdict on that game is that is was too windy and I wish I'd worn another jumper.

Oh, and am I right in thinking that was Salford reserves?

Danny lloyd played, he scored 8 last season in league one and Gaffney who scored 7 in league one last season aswell as Pond from peterborough among others so i think they put out a relatively strong squad to be honest.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on July 28, 2018, 07:14:50 PM
I thought it was a good workout against full time opposition that are favorites I believe to with the National league. A draw would have been the correct result in my opinion, we worked hard and if it wasn't for all the second half subs we could have pushed on for a win.

When we get in and around the box we do need to try and get our shots away more often.

Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on July 28, 2018, 07:24:56 PM
Agreed. It was an even game until the disruption caused by the subs.  Always thought a class part team can compete with an average full time team.

The difference in height and stature was obvious.

My takeaway from today was that we have a squad with depth. I'm encouraged. I feel we are in a much better situation than we were under Lee. He had some good players but no depth to roll out plan B . Bring on Leamington.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 28, 2018, 08:31:23 PM
I thought we put up a good showing against a fancied team.
Lots of subs causes a loss of cohesion but I fully understand the reason why we made them.
I sometimes think JJ for all of his frightening speed sometimes falls short  of an end product.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on July 28, 2018, 08:38:56 PM
I thought we put up a good showing against a fancied team.
Lots of subs causes a loss of cohesion but I fully understand the reason why we made them.
I sometimes think JJ for all of his frightening speed sometimes falls short  of an end product.


Well yeah, if he had a spot on end product he wouldn't be playing non league football!
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 28, 2018, 09:31:21 PM
I thought we put up a good showing against a fancied team.
Lots of subs causes a loss of cohesion but I fully understand the reason why we made them.
I sometimes think JJ for all of his frightening speed sometimes falls short  of an end product.


Well yeah, if he had a spot on end product he wouldn't be playing non league football!

I do realise that, I just think he could produce it a bit more often.  I wasn't comparing him with Beckham
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Cheadle Hulme Alty on July 28, 2018, 10:20:01 PM
Well I know this isn't the most populated forum in the world, or even in the Non-League fraternity, but have had a look at Salford's this evening and the last post on it was 13 hours ago! No mention of today's game whatever. I suppose all the money in the world can't buy you a history and a fanbase like ours. I guess there's every chance the 90 plus fans who attended before the money came could be out tonight and haven't had chance to post!
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 29, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
I thought we put up a good showing against a fancied team.
Lots of subs causes a loss of cohesion but I fully understand the reason why we made them.
I sometimes think JJ for all of his frightening speed sometimes falls short  of an end product.


Well yeah, if he had a spot on end product he wouldn't be playing non league football!

I do realise that, I just think he could produce it a bit more often.  I wasn't comparing him with Beckham


I think its probably a combination of that, and also perhaps his teammates could anticipate his ball a bit better. He often gets to the box too quick for anyone to arrive on a pullback, meaning more often than not, he only has Jordan to find.

I actually think that part of the reason he's so much more effective on the left is because he can still try to do all of the above from the left byline, however he also has the added option of coming inside and having a go (or even laying square), something he can't do very well when cutting in off the right.
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Fairfield Alty on July 29, 2018, 12:43:38 PM
Wasn't there yesterday due to work commitments but going by the report on the website and comments on this forum
it sounds like we gave them a run for their MONEY. The true test starts on Saturday so bring it on. Was the report on
the website correct in saying Salford wore numberless shirts in an attempt to confuse spies from Leyton Orient?
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on July 29, 2018, 03:02:04 PM
They had no numbers on shirts, I assumed it's cos they're massive
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 29, 2018, 04:38:44 PM
They had no numbers on shirts, I assumed it's cos they're massive

Probably down to there wage bill, they could be hard up.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on July 29, 2018, 06:36:08 PM
JJ has more end product than Raheem Sterling.....I'm sold on him and quite happy to accept his blind alley runs for the actually surprisingly frequent moments of brilliance....watch the video of last season's goals for evidence of this and also how often Josh Hancock ghosts in completely unnoticed to score a goal in a game when you weren't sure if he'd played or not until you see his name on the scoresheet again!

I thought we matched what must have been a mix of highly paid players and triallists wanting a huge contract.....big shame for the own goal as a draw would not have been an unfair result...

Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: anglo alty on July 29, 2018, 06:57:50 PM
Forget Salford what goes up as they say, lets get back to rubbishing Macc its what we do best and concentrate on getting a good start nxt Saturday
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on July 29, 2018, 07:32:45 PM
JJ has more end product than Raheem Sterling.....I'm sold on him and quite happy to accept his blind alley runs for the actually surprisingly frequent moments of brilliance....watch the video of last season's goals for evidence of this and also how often Josh Hancock ghosts in completely unnoticed to score a goal in a game when you weren't sure if he'd played or not until you see his name on the scoresheet again!

I thought we matched what must have been a mix of highly paid players and triallists wanting a huge contract.....big shame for the own goal as a draw would not have been an unfair result...



Which is why Sterling is an England international and Premier League winner and JJ is in the National League North. Let’s not be silly eh!
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 29, 2018, 07:34:16 PM
Forget Salford what goes up as they say, lets get back to rubbishing Macc its what we do best and concentrate on getting a good start nxt Saturday

Rubbishing Macc this season may be like shooting fish in a barrel. They're in for a record breaking season - first club to win promotion from the Conference and fall straight back again  ;D
Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Fairfield Alty on July 29, 2018, 08:28:39 PM
Comparing JJ or any other Altrincham player with a premier league player is absolute nonsense, they are both where they are based
on their footballing ability. The end product in each case goes in JJ's favour based  on what you get for what you pay. As for
constantly knocking Macclesfield, let's just worry about ourselves and hope for a good season. Who knows, anything is possible
if we don't get too many injuries or suspensions this squad should be in the top half challenging for the play-offs.

Title: Re: Salford Match Thread
Post by: Jimmy on July 29, 2018, 09:03:00 PM
Couple of players on double the money Sterling is on who he out performed