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Title: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on April 30, 2018, 03:53:44 PM
I am intrigued to the thoughts of the supporters moving forward with this squad.I am sure PP and Neil will be looking to commit players for next season sooner rather than later.

Just my opinion but I would retain:-

Defenders

Dens
Hampson
James Jones
Hannigan
Harrison
White ( he has very much improved, I would still have Hampson as first choice LB )

Midfield

Moult
Richman
Harrop
JJ
Peers

Forwards

Hancock (No.10)
Poole
Hulme

I can't fault Thompson's attitude and passion but he gives the ball back to the opposition far too often and next season we would be punished more. He can also have a rush of blood when coming off his line. Maybe keep him as a squad player and try to develop him but for me we defo need a new keeper.

I would give Miller and Taylor pre season. I would enquire about Merrie,the lad has potential.

I would release :

Heathcote ( did OK against Marine at centre back )
Amis
Omotola
Bailey-Jones ( busy player but not the best close control )

I haven't seen enough of the youth / reserve players but I don't think any,as of yet,would make the first 11.

I feel we are 5 or 6 players short of pushing for playoffs/promotion. Again just my opinion but I feel we are short in certain areas:-

Goalkeeper

Cover at RB

Tall athletic centre mid (not not necessarily to replace anyone)  

A wide player who is similar to JJ. Someone with pace who can go on the outside or inside of defenders. Both Peers and Hancock have done decent jobs in that role but maybe someone more natural in the wing position. Again not to currently replace anyone.

A striker to push Jordan who has been immense.


Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on April 30, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Don't forget we've got a network of scouts now. We've been having teams watched all season, so it wouldn't surprise me if Phil and Neil have pinpoints on exact players that they want. Anyone who comes in has to compliment the dressing room harmony. They're a very close bunch. On Saturday night you got the impression of a brotherhood amongst them, and that can't change. 2/3 additions, 4 at a push, and we go again.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on April 30, 2018, 04:05:21 PM
Don't forget we've got a network of scouts now. We've been having teams watched all season, so it wouldn't surprise me if Phil and Neil have pinpoints on exact players that they want. Anyone who comes in has to compliment the dressing room harmony. They're a very close bunch. On Saturday night you got the impression of a brotherhood amongst them, and that can't change. 2/3 additions, 4 at a push, and we go again.

Yeah I think they will have an idea. PP has created an unreal team spirit,it is clear to see. Already so excited about next season.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Alty Dave on April 30, 2018, 05:03:00 PM
I heard on the grapevine TT is signed up for next season. Nor to say another keeper wont come in as well.

Personally i would release Peers, at best let him come to Pre-season.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on April 30, 2018, 05:36:27 PM
Would only be letting Heathcote, Miller go. No idea who Otomola is. Think Amiss has gone. I'd keep Thompson without a shadow of doubt. Obviously we need another keeper.

Really hope we keep hold of Hannigan but sign another cb as cover.

Need a cm, Merrie on a season long loan would be ideal. Would give Taylor the preseason.

Definitely need an out and out winger and striker.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 06:31:11 PM
Peers has done more than enough to stay.

We don't desperately need a right back, with White and Richman both able to cover there.

On the subject of wingers, I think we should be going back to try and get Elliot Newby again - simple as that.

And if Warrington don't come up, could we do much worse than tempting Sean Williams back?

In terms of forwards, I suspect there might be one or two released by Salford who might be worth a look.

Where is Chris Senior these days?
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 30, 2018, 07:21:20 PM
I would release only Heathcote of the players who were here in the last quarter of the season.

Omotola scored for Loughborough on Saturday, but I seriously doubt he's good enough for the higher level.

I'd try both Miller and Taylor in pre-season.

Merrie won't be released by Wigan, who quite correctly rate him highly. It would be brilliant if we could get him back on loan, but they'd insist he featured regularly - not exactly a given.

We need another keeper to keep TT on his toes, a backup striker (if Hulme got injured we'd be in trouble), and an additional midfielder for cover.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 30, 2018, 07:29:59 PM
I agree with most of what has been said i don think 2 or 3 new faces is enough more five or six.As the subject of ex players often crops up and we could do with cover at rb and maybe cb,  Scott Leather ?,highly rated central midfilelders who might be available include steve Irwin from fc and Winter at County
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Sale Holmfield on April 30, 2018, 07:42:12 PM
I tend to agree with One Foot in the Grave with the priority being to get another goalkeeper who can compete with Tony Thompson.

I would hope that,  given both Wigan Athletic and ourselves have been promoted, that we could get Chris Merrie on a long loan; he has impressed me the most of the late season signings.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Macsporran on April 30, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
Poole is a much much better No10 than Hancock, who has many games for me where he tends to go missing. I’m not criticising Josh, after all he had an excellent goal return over the season...but James Poole is a class act and we will need his guile and passing ability to open up the better defences in the National North. I don’t see Josh as having that ability...but it’s all about opinions.

I’d agree that we need another midfielder having lost Chris Merrie, and definitely need another striker for back up for Jordan. The keeper is a given....young Elliot Wynne who played for Abbey Hey against us, and who turned out for Lancaster ( on loan from Fylde) would be worth looking at.

Defensively we look sound, though the suggestion of Scott Leather is a good one, I guess it depends if Chorley go up through the play offs as to whether he would consider coming back.

Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on April 30, 2018, 08:01:01 PM
I agree with most of what has been said i don think 3 or 3 new faces is enough more five or six.As the subject of ex players often crops up and we could do with cover at rb and maybe cb,  Scott Leather ?,highly rated central midfilelders who might be available include steve Irwin from fc and Winter at County

I thought about Scott Leather and Sean Williams would be decent. I rated him when we first had him. I remember watching one first half in the conference and he ran the show.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 08:38:18 PM
Didn't Leather get a massive pay rise to go to Chorley, and isn't he a key player for them? I notice their gates have dropped since they first arrived at NLN level, maybe their spending power isn't what it used to be (or are they well backed?) - him and Harrison would be immense, and that's assuming Hannigan can't play 42 games a season.

Perhaps a more realistic backup might be Luca, while we're on the subject of ex-players. Alty must be more local than BPA for him.

Elliott Newby would be my personal number one target.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on April 30, 2018, 08:43:38 PM
Didn't Leather get a massive pay rise to go to Chorley, and isn't he a key player for them? I notice their gates have dropped since they first arrived at NLN level, maybe their spending power isn't what it used to be (or are they well backed?) - him and Harrison would be immense, and that's assuming Hannigan can't play 42 games a season.

Perhaps a more realistic backup might be Luca, while we're on the subject of ex-players. Alty must be more local than BPA for him.

Elliott Newby would be my personal number one target.

Boy would Newby fit in with us.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on April 30, 2018, 09:22:14 PM
Sean Williams and Luca Havern? Not for me.

Elliott Newby would be a great signing.

Didn't Leather go for an extra £25 s week?
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Jezza on April 30, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
Ive been thinking about this long and hard and have come to the conclusion PP has a really difficult task.

I really don't think there is a huge leap in standard just in consistency of quality.....that will be mitigated by the fact I believe the Conf N will suit our football much better....

I think Peers would get 10 goals just off the bench and standing in...Hancock and Poole close to 20...Jordan will get 20...JJ will get close to 20

Will Jake Simon and Max between them sort our midfield?...I think so...while simon can cover RB

I love Thommo and it is obvious he loves Alty and is brilliant for team spirit but can see how a really good commanding keeper would give us unbeatability.

I'd go for a top winger who can play both sides as well...another JJ ....

If Sam is happy to stay keep him and loan him out...he's been in and out and has yet to consolidate his own true position let alone get a run....he could yet come good he's still learning....and if he does well on loan maybe that club will buy him?

Scott Leather back?...NO!.....Luca bacvk?....NO!

In conclusion a keeper a winger and maybe a Paul Ellender box to box controlling scoring midfielder....

I actually think we could win this league....play offs minimum.....PP is a winner!
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 09:39:01 PM
Williams is still only young and much better than when he left us (his inclusion in the team of the year confirms that). If we keep the same system I suspect he'd slot straight in alongside Moult.

Anyhow, let's see who PP pulls out of the bag.

(Elliott Newby please).
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on April 30, 2018, 09:42:07 PM
Ive been thinking about this long and hard and have come to the conclusion PP has a really difficult task.

I really don't think there is a huge leap in standard just in consistency of quality.....that will be mitigated by the fact I believe the Conf N will suit our football much better....

I think Peers would get 10 goals just off the bench and standing in...Hancock and Poole close to 20...Jordan will get 20...JJ will get close to 20

Will Jake Simon and Max between them sort our midfield?...I think so...while simon can cover RB

I love Thommo and it is obvious he loves Alty and is brilliant for team spirit but can see how a really good commanding keeper would give us unbeatability.

I'd go for a top winger who can play both sides as well...another JJ ....

If Sam is happy to stay keep him and loan him out...he's been in and out and has yet to consolidate his own true position let alone get a run....he could yet come good he's still learning....and if he does well on loan maybe that club will buy him?

Scott Leather back?...NO!.....Luca bacvk?....NO!

In conclusion a keeper a winger and maybe a Paul Ellender box to box controlling scoring midfielder....

I actually think we could win this league....play offs minimum.....PP is a winner!

How long do you want to give him? Not good enough,simples.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Alty Bri on April 30, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on April 30, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Ive been thinking about this long and hard and have come to the conclusion PP has a really difficult task.

I really don't think there is a huge leap in standard just in consistency of quality.....that will be mitigated by the fact I believe the Conf N will suit our football much better....

I think Peers would get 10 goals just off the bench and standing in...Hancock and Poole close to 20...Jordan will get 20...JJ will get close to 20

Will Jake Simon and Max between them sort our midfield?...I think so...while simon can cover RB

I love Thommo and it is obvious he loves Alty and is brilliant for team spirit but can see how a really good commanding keeper would give us unbeatability.

I'd go for a top winger who can play both sides as well...another JJ ....

If Sam is happy to stay keep him and loan him out...he's been in and out and has yet to consolidate his own true position let alone get a run....he could yet come good he's still learning....and if he does well on loan maybe that club will buy him?

Scott Leather back?...NO!.....Luca bacvk?....NO!

In conclusion a keeper a winger and maybe a Paul Ellender box to box controlling scoring midfielder....

I actually think we could win this league....play offs minimum.....PP is a winner!

How long do you want to give him? Not good enough,simples.

I agree. Feel awful because I respect how much Sam loves Alty but football can be harsh and he is a number that we don't need and can be replaced with much better quality. He hasn't improved, away at Rushall was a shocking 45 mins and rightly subbed at half time.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: old alty fan on April 30, 2018, 10:06:08 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.

 Two?

 would of thought either Newby or Hardy to partner Hulme

 Don't think any of the above would be happy sat on the Bench
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 10:18:48 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.

 Two?

 would of thought either Newby or Hardy to partner Hulme

 Don't think any of the above would be happy sat on the Bench

Why don't we just sign both Newby brothers, easy! Elliot, ex Alty loanee, is a winger - whereas Alex is a centre forward at Chorley (he was signed in January after being prolific at Clitheroe).

Both have had excellent seasons.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on April 30, 2018, 10:21:09 PM
Hardy has committed to Buxton for next season
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 10:26:30 PM
Hardy has committed to Buxton for next season

He's from Doncaster too - we want local lads who can fit in with the rest of the lads here.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on April 30, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
Depends what you class as local?

They can come from Mars for me
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: distancetraveller on April 30, 2018, 10:34:13 PM
I would keep Peers for sure
Definitely need another keeper TT will get found out in the Conference North. That keeper at Grantham possibly
Would have Scott Leather back in a heartbeat
Haven No
Williams No
At the end of the day, I'm sure PP & NS will have a list of who they want/need.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Birkonian on April 30, 2018, 10:42:29 PM
Didn't Leather get a massive pay rise to go to Chorley, and isn't he a key player for them? I notice their gates have dropped since they first arrived at NLN level, maybe their spending power isn't what it used to be (or are they well backed?) - him and Harrison would be immense, and that's assuming Hannigan can't play 42 games a season.

Perhaps a more realistic backup might be Luca, while we're on the subject of ex-players. Alty must be more local than BPA for him.

Elliott Newby would be my personal number one target.

Hannigan is 100% fit and looking to play every game next season.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Depends what you class as local?

They can come from Mars for me

I'd be very wary about taking players from further afield - we need any new arrivals to slot in seamlessly, and what works with the current bunch is that a lot of them go out together etc
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on April 30, 2018, 10:44:27 PM
Didn't Leather get a massive pay rise to go to Chorley, and isn't he a key player for them? I notice their gates have dropped since they first arrived at NLN level, maybe their spending power isn't what it used to be (or are they well backed?) - him and Harrison would be immense, and that's assuming Hannigan can't play 42 games a season.

Perhaps a more realistic backup might be Luca, while we're on the subject of ex-players. Alty must be more local than BPA for him.

Elliott Newby would be my personal number one target.

Hannigan is 100% fit and looking to play every game next season.


That is fantastic news.

Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 30, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.

 Two?

 would of thought either Newby or Hardy to partner Hulme

 Don't think any of the above would be happy sat on the Bench

Why don't we just sign both Newby brothers, easy! Elliot, ex Alty loanee, is a winger - whereas Alex is a centre forward at Chorley (he was signed in January after being prolific at Clitheroe).

Both have had excellent seasons.

Scratch this - Alex signed an 18-month deal with Chorley in January. Which means they'll almost certainly be favourites to land his twin brother.

Over to you, PP  :)
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Mick on April 30, 2018, 10:58:00 PM
Didn't Leather get a massive pay rise to go to Chorley, and isn't he a key player for them? I notice their gates have dropped since they first arrived at NLN level, maybe their spending power isn't what it used to be (or are they well backed?) - him and Harrison would be immense, and that's assuming Hannigan can't play 42 games a season.

Perhaps a more realistic backup might be Luca, while we're on the subject of ex-players. Alty must be more local than BPA for him.

Elliott Newby would be my personal number one target.

Hannigan is 100% fit and looking to play every game next season.

Cheers Mr H............Hope you are right.

Tom is quality........we just need to put the 'unlucky with injuries' start behind us
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 30, 2018, 11:13:33 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.
On what I saw at Buxton, Hardy is overrated.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Alty Bri on May 01, 2018, 07:01:06 AM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.
On what I saw at Buxton, Hardy is overrated.

Hulme, Shaw and Hardy were the best number 9s in the Evostik. Whether or not any of them would adapt to the higher level is of course debatable. I'd give a little shout for Jordan Cover at Atherton Colls, but not sure if his work commitments would make it difficult.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 01, 2018, 08:21:25 AM
As has been previously mentioned I suspect a lot of these players might even be better in the NLN - we're not as much of a scalp and hopefully pitches (and the weather) will be better too. A lot of these players have done well at this level before, especially the former Salford lads and Peers was very well regarded by Chester and that was at National level.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: JTH on May 01, 2018, 12:18:13 PM
We need two more strikers - Hardy and Newby would be awesome.
On what I saw at Buxton, Hardy is overrated.

Hulme, Shaw and Hardy were the best number 9s in the Evostik. Whether or not any of them would adapt to the higher level is of course debatable. I'd give a little shout for Jordan Cover at Atherton Colls, but not sure if his work commitments would make it difficult.


I think it's fair to say Jordan proved himself at Conf North level with Salford, he was offered a f/t contract after all. I'm sure clubs in that league would've snapped him up but for our contacts - remember he, James Poole and JJ all played in their play-off semi vs Halifax last season. Shaw looked a decent player to me and is available.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Alty Dave on May 01, 2018, 01:17:52 PM
When do you think we will start to hear of who's released/retained etc? New signings?
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: AFC56 on May 01, 2018, 02:27:04 PM
This squad have earned the right to have a go at playing at the level above and I think that the majority will step up a league with no problems at all. Id expect the lads out on loan to leave permanently, but id bring in no more than 3 players to a well balanced squad of players. Its quality more than quantity this time around, which is great news. A top drawer midfielder would be my number 1 target.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on May 01, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
I think they've earned the right to not be speculated over, as well.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: cheshire cat on May 01, 2018, 04:14:20 PM
Got to agree that they all deserve a chance at the higher level.

Disruption will come if we get into the national league or decide to go full time. Both might require some players to make difficult choices.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on May 01, 2018, 05:15:09 PM
I think they've earned the right to not be speculated over, as well.

I understand where you are coming from but there are at least 5 that we could release without impacting on the squad. We will need to strengthen to compete, as we haven't quite got the strength in-depth.
I think you run a risk if you don't bring in targets for pre season because that is when observations and bonding can be made.
You leave it 5 or 6 games in and we realise we need more quality or back up in certain areas we could find ourselves with an instant uphill battle.
Some are not good enough so just replace with quality if the budget allows.
We 100% need a keeper ( even if it's just back-up),striker because if Hulme gets injured we are already struggling, a dominant athletic centre mid ( box to box )and an extra winger. I feel these positions must be at least covered before or during pre season.
We must be prepared, quality in-depth and fit before the first league game in my opinion.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Graham Bennetts Perm on May 01, 2018, 06:40:33 PM
To have any chance challenging for a league at this level you need at least 4 or 5 players who are clearly a class above the league they are in. We had that this season. So I’d say we need to drop quite a few, including those who have the talent, but are not up to the physical challenges of National North, and bring in around 8 or 9.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 01, 2018, 08:02:41 PM
To have any chance challenging for a league at this level you need at least 4 or 5 players who are clearly a class above the league they are in. We had that this season. So I’d say we need to drop quite a few, including those who have the talent, but are not up to the physical challenges of National North, and bring in around 8 or 9.

Thank God you're not the manager.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on May 01, 2018, 08:50:09 PM
I'd keep the majority of the squad together as team spirit is valuable. The only additions I'd make are to bring a bit more quality in to replace any outgoing players. Deasy has retired and a second keeper is important to keep TT on his toes. Merrie has returned to Wigan so we need an extra midfielder and I'd release Heathcote and Amiss and bring in a quality winger and a striker to compete with Jordan.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 01, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Warrington are out now - despite what others say, I'd happily take Williams back, and what about Tony Gray as backup to Jordan?
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Bath Alty on May 01, 2018, 10:23:08 PM
Pretty much agree, keep all the players who played a decent number of games this year, release Sam (sorry) and Bailly-Jones and those who went out on loan.

Essential Targets:
Striker - a squad with one recognised striker is well short, would be happy to keep Jordan as first choice
Keeper - ditto keeper, but would rather genuine competition for TT or even new first choice - distribution and rush of blood moments are too frequent for me

Secondary targets:
CM replace Merrie in the squad - competing with Moult and Richman first choice is what we need, not necessarily a step up from these two, Harrop to come on from bench
Winger replace Miller in the squad - if he's first choice great but a front four of JH, JJ, JP, JH is pretty good so another impact sub alongside Peers would be enough
Striker - a squad really needs three strikers although how much game time the 3rd choice will get will be an issue playing one up top if Jordan stays fit again - could get away with knowing about some viable loan targets in case of injury

I'd rather spend the budget on the first two and then see what's left for the others.  Defence is probably OK - 3 good full backs and 3 good CB in the squad with additional cover from Si and Jake if we get injury hit again, feels OK.

In terms of personnel mentioned, Leather - yes (but not a priority area), Luca -No, Grantham keeper definitely, team of the season keeper and played well against us at theirs but suspect distance will be an issue
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Toff Apple on May 02, 2018, 08:00:53 AM
Rankine as supersub
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 02, 2018, 08:32:37 AM
Rankine as supersub

Pfft, Kyle Perry please.

I have fond memories of some of those big wins we used to get against ex-League clubs (Bristol Rovers etc) where Kyle was an absolute sh*thouse by the corner flag in injury time. Happy days.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on May 02, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
Pretty much agree, keep all the players who played a decent number of games this year, release Sam (sorry) and Bailly-Jones and those who went out on loan.

Essential Targets:
Striker - a squad with one recognised striker is well short, would be happy to keep Jordan as first choice
Keeper - ditto keeper, but would rather genuine competition for TT or even new first choice - distribution and rush of blood moments are too frequent for me

Secondary targets:
CM replace Merrie in the squad - competing with Moult and Richman first choice is what we need, not necessarily a step up from these two, Harrop to come on from bench
Winger replace Miller in the squad - if he's first choice great but a front four of JH, JJ, JP, JH is pretty good so another impact sub alongside Peers would be enough
Striker - a squad really needs three strikers although how much game time the 3rd choice will get will be an issue playing one up top if Jordan stays fit again - could get away with knowing about some viable loan targets in case of injury

I'd rather spend the budget on the first two and then see what's left for the others.  Defence is probably OK - 3 good full backs and 3 good CB in the squad with additional cover from Si and Jake if we get injury hit again, feels OK.

In terms of personnel mentioned, Leather - yes (but not a priority area), Luca -No, Grantham keeper definitely, team of the season keeper and played well against us at theirs but suspect distance will be an issue

Good post.

I would love to see Miller take personal responsibility and get himself super fit and trim before pre season and see how he does. On his game he is the extra winger we are missing.

Again Taylor is a good player but I feel we just need that little bit more from a centre mid.

Keeper is a must, along with a proven hungry goal scorer at this level.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on May 02, 2018, 12:15:12 PM
Rankine as supersub

I'd rather have Havern back!

No ta
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Cheadle Hulme Alty on May 02, 2018, 04:42:06 PM
Rankine as supersub

And ruin the team spirit in one move, just like last time. Nowhere near our club thanks. I'd have Scott Allison but suspect if he lives around Workington not much chance of him moving.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on May 02, 2018, 04:49:31 PM
Rankine as supersub

I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole!! I suspect your suggestion was very tongue in cheek though.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 02, 2018, 05:12:01 PM
Rankine as supersub

I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole!! I suspect your suggestion was very tongue in cheek though.

I suspect it was tongue-in-cheek after my suggestion of Sean Williams. I still stand by that one to be honest, I think he'd start in our current team and he's a decent set piece taker too.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: G E on May 02, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
You're a funny lot! I remember the slagging off of your team/Management after your first game against Stafford and now, before the paint has dried on your success this season (congratulations btw) you're already talking about winning the NN (or play-offs as a minimum). Going full-time is financially crazy imo.

I don't know your Chairman, personally, and some/most of you have issues with him but to give him a bit of credit I watched your Reserves last night & he mucked in behind the bar.

You could of course not win it, but come back down to the Evostick League or to reality.

GE
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on May 02, 2018, 10:16:03 PM
A Chairman should not be applauded for “mucking in behind the bar.” I can do that.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: G E on May 02, 2018, 11:15:15 PM
Yes, but you didn't.
GE
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MadFrankie on May 02, 2018, 11:38:33 PM
Yes, but you didn't.
GE

Well that’s you told Mr Cooker. You can’t argue with logic like that.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on May 03, 2018, 01:01:19 AM
Yes, but you didn't.
GE

Well that’s you told Mr Cooker. You can’t argue with logic like that.
Or as Billy Joel puts it "you should never argue with a crazy mind".
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Toff Apple on May 03, 2018, 07:59:28 AM
Rankine as supersub

I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole!! I suspect your suggestion was very tongue in cheek though.
It wasnt, if our passing game isnt working and we need something different instead of a sam heathcote up front a battering ram is needed.  Like Perry Rankine would fit this mould.  Not something i expect pp to do but we may need to change the way we play if its not working.  Doubt he'd be happy to be on the bench.  Best moment of few years ago when rocky robin ran round the pitch just behind him pretending to be training.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: cheshire cat on May 03, 2018, 09:26:49 PM
To me both Rankine and Perry seemed disinterested at times and didn't look for the ball enough. There were notable exceptions. Perry's game at Macc being one. I can't think of any point in any game when Jordan wasn't interested in scoring. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: wayno on May 03, 2018, 09:36:11 PM
To me both Rankine and Perry seemed disinterested at times and didn't look for the ball enough. There were notable exceptions. Perry's game at Macc being one. I can't think of any point in any game when Jordan wasn't interested in scoring. Long may it continue.
the away game at Macc will live in memory for a long time none of them cared
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 04, 2018, 09:15:17 AM
To me both Rankine and Perry seemed disinterested at times and didn't look for the ball enough. There were notable exceptions. Perry's game at Macc being one. I can't think of any point in any game when Jordan wasn't interested in scoring. Long may it continue.

Jordan will never not want to score - it's in his nature (a bit like a young Rooney really). He's the sort of player that would be well fired up by Macc.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on May 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Hulme has signed up for next season. See main site
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on May 09, 2018, 11:26:04 AM
Hulme has signed up for next season. See main site

Perfect start.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Alty Bri on May 09, 2018, 03:16:50 PM
It is a cracking start. Hopefully others will soon follow...
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 10, 2018, 08:35:57 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this mean Jordan can leave for a free again next Summer?

I'm hoping the club is now doing everything it can to push the boat out and secure our younger assets for durations that could see us landing fees and sell-ons.

Of course, the club might have tried this with Jordan and he insisted on the year only?
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Toff Apple on May 10, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
Yes but we have got into bother with this in the past.  If someone does come in then good luck to them, I understand we'd get notice to try to extend contracts to see if we could get more.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on May 14, 2018, 06:21:17 PM
I am intrigued to the thoughts of the supporters moving forward with this squad.I am sure PP and Neil will be looking to commit players for next season sooner rather than later.

Just my opinion but I would retain:-

Defenders

Dens
Hampson
James Jones
Hannigan
Harrison
White ( he has very much improved, I would still have Hampson as first choice LB )

Midfield

Moult
Richman
Harrop
JJ
Peers

Forwards

Hancock (No.10)
Poole
Hulme

I can't fault Thompson's attitude and passion but he gives the ball back to the opposition far too often and next season we would be punished more. He can also have a rush of blood when coming off his line. Maybe keep him as a squad player and try to develop him but for me we defo need a new keeper.

I would give Miller and Taylor pre season. I would enquire about Merrie,the lad has potential.

I would release :

Heathcote ( did OK against Marine at centre back )
Amis
Omotola
Bailey-Jones ( busy player but not the best close control )

I haven't seen enough of the youth / reserve players but I don't think any,as of yet,would make the first 11.

I feel we are 5 or 6 players short of pushing for playoffs/promotion. Again just my opinion but I feel we are short in certain areas:-

Goalkeeper

Cover at RB

Tall athletic centre mid (not not necessarily to replace anyone)  

A wide player who is similar to JJ. Someone with pace who can go on the outside or inside of defenders. Both Peers and Hancock have done decent jobs in that role but maybe someone more natural in the wing position. Again not to currently replace anyone.

A striker to push Jordan who has been immense.




PP and Neil know a decent player. Matched.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on May 18, 2018, 03:21:30 PM
Such a sharp contrast in comparison to the rebuilding job of 2017/18. A deputy keeper, a central defender, a central midfielder and a target man are needed I reckon.

Goalkeepers

Tony Thompson

Defenders

Shaun Densmore
Connor Hampson
Andy White
Tom Hannigan
Ben Harrison
James Jones

Midfielders

Jake Moult
Simon Richman
Max Harrop
James Poole
John Johnston
Josh Hancock

Forwards

Jordan Hulme
Tom Peers
Anthony Dwyer
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: oneedham on May 18, 2018, 04:13:47 PM
Such a sharp contrast in comparison to the rebuilding job of 2017/18. A deputy keeper, a central defender, a central midfielder and a target man are needed I reckon.

Goalkeepers

Tony Thompson

Defenders

Shaun Densmore
Connor Hampson
Andy White
Tom Hannigan
Ben Harrison
James Jones

Midfielders

Jake Moult
Simon Richman
Max Harrop
James Poole
John Johnston
Josh Hancock

Forwards

Jordan Hulme
Tom Peers
Anthony Dwyer


Agreed.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on May 18, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
Need a goalkeeper coach aswel. Keeper/coach might be an option
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Sale Holmfield on May 18, 2018, 05:58:16 PM
Need a goalkeeper coach aswel. Keeper/coach might be an option
Certainly possible, but Chris Parkes was goalkeeping coach at Nantwich, I think, so might resume that role.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on May 18, 2018, 11:52:32 PM
Lawrence Taylor has signed for Trafford for next season.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on May 19, 2018, 08:13:54 AM
Lawrence Taylor has signed for Trafford for next season.

I could see that coming. Hope the lad does well for our neighbours - there's a lot of untapped potential there.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on May 19, 2018, 08:59:15 AM
Lawrence Taylor has signed for Trafford for next season.

I could see that coming. Hope the lad does well for our neighbours - there's a lot of untapped potential there.

Could be a very good player indeed at that level. Darius Palma has also signed full terms with them.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: robininstockport on May 21, 2018, 02:39:53 PM
Next signing to be announced this evening
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Timperley The Best on May 22, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
Any idea if it will be an 18,19 or 20 man squad ?
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: Alty Bri on May 22, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
It might be that PP takes the squad up to beyond 20 before whittling it down as he did last season. Still another keeper, forward player and possibly cover for Dens needed.
Title: Re: Next season's squad
Post by: andrewflynn on May 22, 2018, 04:10:02 PM
Goalkeepers

Tony Thompson

Defenders

Shaun Densmore
Connor Hampson
Andy White
Tom Hannigan
Ben Harrison
James Jones

Midfielders

Jake Moult
Simon Richman
Max Harrop
Sean Williams
James Poole
John Johnston
Josh Hancock

Forwards

Jordan Hulme
Tom Peers
Anthony Dwyer