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Good God... What a truly sickening piece of self-serving, self-deluded garbage.
“I just wish I could get the unhappy fans back on board again." You can. Resign.
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Wow
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"No more in-fighting" pleads the most unsuccessful and unpopular chairman in the 100+ year history of the football club.
Give me strength...
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Ooh,look at me and my family blah blah blah...
You want no more in-fighting? Resign then!
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Incredible. After our excellent win today, I am in a good mood so the article mostly made me laugh hysterically, but who could possibly have thought it was a good idea to write this?
It doesn't look like he plans to leave soon.
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I was thinking exactly the same thing. No idea what was going through the man's mind when he decided to do this interview.
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Did our board member who's in charge of PR at the club approve this?
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Rowley out.
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
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We’ve actually backed the manager very well, budgeting to make a substantial loss this year,
So Grahame has always maintained he's at least kept us solvent. Now we're spending we don't have(?) to get out of a league we shouldn't be in, because we wouldn't spend money we didn't have to avoid being here...
Unless the board are covering these loses or our cash reserves are being used in which case fine.
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Did our board member who's in charge of PR at the club approve this?
I expect you'll get an answer to this sometime after the SLOs are given answers to the Stafford and Coalville debacles. Christmas perhaps?
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Surely this has to be the catalyst to revive the Rowley Out campaign? It was suspended so that the share issue/conversion could go through but that's happened now and this article makes it perfectly clear that GR wishes to continue as chairman, however the ownership of the club evolves.
I also think a Rowley Out campaign conducted during a relatively successful season, rather than a disastrously bad one, would be more stark and harder to dismiss.
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Did our board member who's in charge of PR at the club approve this?
I expect you'll get an answer to this sometime after the SLOs are given answers to the Stafford and Coalville debacles. Christmas perhaps?
Any particular Christmas in mind ?
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GR has a history of going solo with these ill advised articles and I would not be at all surprised if no other board member was aware of this interview. He cherry picks information to promote his own cause and public profile. I don't doubt that he cares about the club and is a supporter, but not surprisingly there is no mention in this article of the disastrous nepotistic appointment of Tolson or indeed GR's war of words with supporters via nationwide publications.
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World class hubris.
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For your information, Stacey Rowley leaves her post as CSH manager on friday. She has done a very good job and Judy (also excellent) will now be taking over as manager I understand and her job advertised.
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For your information, Stacey Rowley leaves her post as CSH manager on friday. She has done a very good job and Judy (also excellent) will now be taking over as manager I understand and her job advertised.
What has that got to do with this shameless solo piece of self-promotion?
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Did our board member who's in charge of PR at the club approve this?
I expect you'll get an answer to this sometime after the SLOs are given answers to the Stafford and Coalville debacles. Christmas perhaps?
Any particular Christmas in mind ?
lol
Its taking longer to get out than the 3 year buisness plan
It must be one hell of an investigation with hundreds of witness statments
It may come in a binder at this rate
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Its taking longer to get out than the 3 year buisness plan
It must be one hell of an investigation with hundreds of witness statments
It may come in a binder at this rate
Sir John Chilcot is just having a bit of a rest after the exertions of the Iraq enquiry. Keep the faith Wayne.
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This article is just a continuation of everything we already knew. Nothing has changed and it certainly wont now we're doing ok on the pitch.
Crass and patronising to completely absolve himself of any blame. As usual after swerving responsibility he's straight on to how great the club is doing off the pitch and what an amazing appointment PP is. What an ego.
I note there was no mention of the Tolson appointment in the article.
Telling fans to stick together is essentially saying 'if you're a dissenter you dont know what your talking about, get back in your box'.
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“The rest of the board haven’t been blamed, the managers haven’t, nor have the players. I have,” Rowley notes.
Pretty sure the managers and players (all 4,000 of them last season) have been blamed to certain degrees but there you go....
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Self-serving drivel that won’t fool any long standing supporters.
The decline started with the failure to remove Sinnott (who’d obviously lost his mojo) which was then compounded by the appointment of Rowley’s personal mate Tolson-an appointment not one person I knew agreed with at that time. The Young appointment in hindsight was a disaster and you have to question the due diligence.
Now we’re strolling past teams we hadn’t even heard of 2 years ago we are meant to be grateful. Rubbish. I will support Parky and the team as they are playing some good attacking football but until GR leaves as Chairman the club cannot move on. Now we have interested parties it reads like a slightly desperate job advert to any potential new regime.
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Whole interview stinks of desperation. He really is a dillusional character who needs to remove himself from the club as soon as possible.
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For your information, Stacey Rowley leaves her post as CSH manager on friday. She has done a very good job and Judy (also excellent) will now be taking over as manager I understand and her job advertised.
What has that got to do with this shameless solo piece of self-promotion?
Well it could be the beginning of the end but I sincerely hope not.
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I think most would acknowledge stacey has done a fantastic job as csh manager and justified her appointment.
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“The rest of the board haven’t been blamed, the managers haven’t, nor have the players. I have,” Rowley notes.
Pretty sure the managers and players (all 4,000 of them last season) have been blamed to certain degrees but there you go....
Spot the persecution complex. If you set yourself up as a figurehead, you're there to be shot at. And if it causes you so much distress, you hand over to someone else. Simples.
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“The rest of the board haven’t been blamed, the managers haven’t, nor have the players. I have,” Rowley notes.
Pretty sure the managers and players (all 4,000 of them last season) have been blamed to certain degrees but there you go....
Spot the persecution complex. If you set yourself up as a figurehead, you're there to be shot at. And if it causes you so much distress, you hand over to someone else. Simples.
Absolutely right. He is the chairman, the buck stops with him.
If he had been sat in the Royal box at Wembley on trophy final day, or basking in the limelight before our fifth round tie at old Trafford then nobody would have begrudged him it at all.
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Also about half of the board who appointed Tolson and Young have since stepped down. So effectively what GR is saying is 'people should be giving Neil Faulkner more stick'. Charming.
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Why was my earlier post removed?
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Why was my earlier post removed?
My post removed as well. Forum police, you can't say anything anti Rowley by the look of it. Happy clappers in fear of Rowley, must pull the party line. No back bone or conviction, exactly the type of happy clappy thinking that got us into this mess in the first place
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Surely this has to be the catalyst to revive the Rowley Out campaign? It was suspended so that the share issue/conversion could go through but that's happened now and this article makes it perfectly clear that GR wishes to continue as chairman, however the ownership of the club evolves.
I also think a Rowley Out campaign conducted during a relatively successful season, rather than a disastrously bad one, would be more stark and harder to dismiss.
Fully agree, unfortunately too many of the Rowley Out campaigners are enjoying the football now to make a stand. As fans we get what we deserve. For me I'll be Rowley Out till I die and I dont need any campaign to be so
No doubt this post will be deleted?
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Why was my earlier post removed?
My post removed as well. Forum police, you can't say anything anti Rowley by the look of it. Happy clappers in fear of Rowley, must pull the party line. No back bone or conviction, exactly the type of happy clappy thinking that got us into this mess in the first place
This is in my opinion a completely daft rant.
I didn't delete your post, but I assume it's because you needlessly called SLO's to resign as if any of this latest debacle thrown at us by the chairman has anything to do with them. What you've put above is complete nonsense. How am I a happy clapper with no backbone or conviction? Have you read mine, or the other moderators posts? None of us are particularly pro chairman in my view.
To be honest you alone bring this forum down with your endless diatribe about how anti Rowley you are and how everyone else just isn't hard line enough and so on with your personal quest to be the Arthur Scargill of the Altrincham fanbase. You don't post to support the team, only to come on and attack other fans or representatives of the club with complete disregard for their opinions or their efforts for us as fans or the club.
Your boring, you've become an online parody of yourself and you just come on here making an already dismal situation even worse. You never offer anything constructive, just the usual aggressive tone to anyone who dares disagree with your opinion.
I'm fed up anyway with all this so if this post is deemed as too much then so be it I'll bin off the moderator role then I won't have to read your claptrap any more.
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Don't give up L'homme. I think I must be a happy clapper as I'm enjoying the show at the moment. One of at least 700 if last night was anything to go by. The board has made a good appointment and I expect us to be back in the conference north soon enough.
I honestly think some of the posters on here have been totally consumed by their hatred. Take a holiday guys.
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Don't give up L'homme. I think I must be a happy clapper as I'm enjoying the show at the moment. One of at least 700 if last night was anything to go by. The board has made a good appointment and I expect us to be back in the conference north soon enough.
I honestly think some of the posters on here have been totally consumed by their hatred. Take a holiday guys.
Spot on. Like you, I'm enjoying watching and supporting my team. If this makes me a happy clapper or whatever then so be it. The silence from some posters since we've been on a decent run has been deafening. They'll be back when we have a bad result no doubt. Meanwhile, lets enjoy the good results.
Col
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I've been quite dovish towards Rowley, thinking that he's essentially a decent man who has made many poor decisions.
However, this is just delusional. You can't just sweep terrible managerial appointments away as if you've ordered the wrong biscuits for a board meeting. His main purpose is to ensure the stability of the club and encourage footballing success. His decisions have had huge negative effects on both these counts.
If Rowley truly believes that he is capable of getting us back to where we were as he says in the article then he is vastly overestimating his abilities. What has happened under his leadership that gives him any encouragement that he has the skills to do so, especially with such a divided fanbase?
In fact, if you ever needed a more perfect example of why Rowley isn't fit to be chairman it's this article.
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Why was my earlier post removed?
My post removed as well. Forum police, you can't say anything anti Rowley by the look of it. Happy clappers in fear of Rowley, must pull the party line. No back bone or conviction, exactly the type of happy clappy thinking that got us into this mess in the first place
This is in my opinion a completely daft rant.
I didn't delete your post, but I assume it's because you needlessly called SLO's to resign as if any of this latest debacle thrown at us by the chairman has anything to do with them. What you've put above is complete nonsense. How am I a happy clapper with no backbone or conviction? Have you read mine, or the other moderators posts? None of us are particularly pro chairman in my view.
To be honest you alone bring this forum down with your endless diatribe about how anti Rowley you are and how everyone else just isn't hard line enough and so on with your personal quest to be the Arthur Scargill of the Altrincham fanbase. You don't post to support the team, only to come on and attack other fans or representatives of the club with complete disregard for their opinions or their efforts for us as fans or the club.
Your boring, you've become an online parody of yourself and you just come on here making an already dismal situation even worse. You never offer anything constructive, just the usual aggressive tone to anyone who dares disagree with your opinion.
I'm fed up anyway with all this so if this post is deemed as too much then so be it I'll bin off the moderator role then I won't have to read your claptrap any more.
When/ where have I slagged off the SLO
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Why was my earlier post removed?
My post removed as well. Forum police, you can't say anything anti Rowley by the look of it. Happy clappers in fear of Rowley, must pull the party line. No back bone or conviction, exactly the type of happy clappy thinking that got us into this mess in the first place
This is in my opinion a completely daft rant.
I didn't delete your post, but I assume it's because you needlessly called SLO's to resign as if any of this latest debacle thrown at us by the chairman has anything to do with them. What you've put above is complete nonsense. How am I a happy clapper with no backbone or conviction? Have you read mine, or the other moderators posts? None of us are particularly pro chairman in my view.
To be honest you alone bring this forum down with your endless diatribe about how anti Rowley you are and how everyone else just isn't hard line enough and so on with your personal quest to be the Arthur Scargill of the Altrincham fanbase. You don't post to support the team, only to come on and attack other fans or representatives of the club with complete disregard for their opinions or their efforts for us as fans or the club.
Your boring, you've become an online parody of yourself and you just come on here making an already dismal situation even worse. You never offer anything constructive, just the usual aggressive tone to anyone who dares disagree with your opinion.
I'm fed up anyway with all this so if this post is deemed as too much then so be it I'll bin off the moderator role then I won't have to read your claptrap any more.
When/ where have I slagged off the SLO
I wasn't referring to your post. I don't know who or why your post was deleted. I may not have seen it but any from you I did see seemed fair enough to me.
I didn't delete Jamie's post either as it wasn't particularly personally offensive.
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Its good to see the infighting has subsided
Sorry couldnt resisit
Tickle
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Surely this has to be the catalyst to revive the Rowley Out campaign? It was suspended so that the share issue/conversion could go through but that's happened now and this article makes it perfectly clear that GR wishes to continue as chairman, however the ownership of the club evolves.
I also think a Rowley Out campaign conducted during a relatively successful season, rather than a disastrously bad one, would be more stark and harder to dismiss.
Fully agree, unfortunately too many of the Rowley Out campaigners are enjoying the football now to make a stand. As fans we get what we deserve. For me I'll be Rowley Out till I die and I dont need any campaign to be so
No doubt this post will be deleted?
What a load of sh*te.
Why are you trying to villiainse fans for getting behind the team? Not everyone wants to boycott games. Also, please don't point the finger at people who have, and still are trying to constructively move the club towards the end goal we all want. If you aren't happy with the lack of a vocal campaign then get off your arse and organise something if that's how you feel. I'm sure you'll find quite a few fans willing to join you.
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Why was my earlier post removed?
My post removed as well. Forum police, you can't say anything anti Rowley by the look of it. Happy clappers in fear of Rowley, must pull the party line. No back bone or conviction, exactly the type of happy clappy thinking that got us into this mess in the first place
Not true, I removed both posts because I felt that this intellectual debate was not served well by personal insults.
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Why was my earlier post removed?
My post removed as well. Forum police, you can't say anything anti Rowley by the look of it. Happy clappers in fear of Rowley, must pull the party line. No back bone or conviction, exactly the type of happy clappy thinking that got us into this mess in the first place
Not true, I removed both posts because I felt that this intellectual debate was not served well by personal insults.
As a mod that is your prerogative, I have no problem with that at all. Perhaps you could have sent us a PM informing us of your intentions.
For the record I still think the bloke is Smug...
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I love the fact that an article titled 'No More Infighting' has led to even more Forum infighting. To that end he has failed already.
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I love the fact that an article titled 'No More Infighting' has led to even more Forum infighting. To that end he has failed already.
Spot on, divide and conquer has always been his ploy. I just don't understand why more of us can't see when we're being played
Regarding the timing, if due diligence is ongoing as we have been led to believe then these comments can only be intended to scupper any deal. Sending a clear message to potential investors that he isn't going anywhere. Again surprised more of us can't see that
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Yes, once upon a time the forum was mainly light hearted.
I suppose its just a reflection of all our frustrations now.
Possibly its a good thing to let it all out here rather than in the ground, but I suspect not. Rather than a solid group of 50-100 people protesting on a matchday vocally that would make a real dent in the chairmans ambitions to shake this off we instead appear to be a squabling group of ten daft idiots ranting on here like happy idiots waving at cars.
I agree with Andrew above, instead of castigating each other on this forum a real constructive protest should be held, although I believe it far too easy to come on here with puff and bluster than it is to actually act. I've had enough for a while.
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I'm not really bothered about the comunity or the Olympic legacy or who the chairman is
I just want to go up two divisions and bring the the home fans back
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I love the fact that an article titled 'No More Infighting' has led to even more Forum infighting. To that end he has failed already.
Spot on, divide and conquer has always been his ploy. I just don't understand why more of us can't see when we're being played
Regarding the timing, if due diligence is ongoing as we have been led to believe then these comments can only be intended to scupper any deal. Sending a clear message to potential investors that he isn't going anywhere. Again surprised more of us can't see that
If a new investor has 51% it really doesnt matter what anyone else wants - they can put whoever they choose into any position.
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Recipe for success : first find your investor......
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Yes, once upon a time the forum was mainly light hearted.
I suppose its just a reflection of all our frustrations now.
Possibly its a good thing to let it all out here rather than in the ground, but I suspect not. Rather than a solid group of 50-100 people protesting on a matchday vocally that would make a real dent in the chairmans ambitions to shake this off we instead appear to be a squabling group of ten daft idiots ranting on here like happy idiots waving at cars.
I agree with Andrew above, instead of castigating each other on this forum a real constructive protest should be held, although I believe it far too easy to come on here with puff and bluster than it is to actually act. I've had enough for a while.
if your not part of the solotion your part of the problem
Tickle toes
One love x
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
The reason so many of us have walked away is exactly for the reasons Pete says, we have become Rowley FC not Altrincham FC, not a penny more we say, the club is not ours until Rowley has gone and this from home and away supporters of 30 years faces we would all recognise. It's not just me, I'm just the only one daft enough to post on here
Enjoy the football, but for some of us getting our club back is more important and a stand has to be been made. But keep clapping you might be right
However the ridicule towards those who continue to make that stand from moderators of this forum and those who when we were losing last year were happy to make the stand as well is sicking. Rowley must be laughing his socks off, he's made fools of us all
Not in my name
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
The reason so many of us have walked away is exactly for the reasons Pete says, we have become Rowley FC not Altrincham FC, not a penny more we say, the club is not ours until Rowley has gone and this from home and away supporters of 30 years faces we would all recognise. It's not just me, I'm just the only one daft enough to post on here
Enjoy the football, but for some of us getting our club back is more important and a stand has to be been made. But keep clapping you might be right
However the ridicule towards those who continue to make that stand from moderators of this forum and those who when we were losing last year were happy to make the stand as well is sicking. Rowley must be laughing his socks off, he's made fools of us all
Not in my name
Excellent post Snoopy!
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Correct me if I am wrong but if someone comes in and picks up 51% of the club it still will not be your club, it will be theirs.
How long before the club is 750K in debt again? I'm told Oldham Athletic failed to pay their players last month
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Correct me if I am wrong but if someone comes in and picks up 51% of the club it still will not be your club, it will be theirs.
How long before the club is 750K in debt again? I'm told Oldham Athletic failed to pay their players last month
i get your point on it not being our club or anyones club etc .
On the point of debt and poor financial managment we have just had a statement telling us we are spending beyond our means this season anyway
Sadly fear holds us back . You have to take risks to enable change
If we didnt we would still think the world was flat and flying was just for birds
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Correct me if I am wrong but if someone comes in and picks up 51% of the club it still will not be your club, it will be theirs.
How long before the club is 750K in debt again? I'm told Oldham Athletic failed to pay their players last month
What makes you think that we would rack up a debt like that again? Is GR the only man capable of keeping us financially stable?
And I think that GR deserves a lot of credit for the overall stability we have with regards to money. The problem is that its just one part of the chairman's job. In several other aspects of the role (working behind the bar and doing sponsored walks is not in the chairmans remit) his performance over the last 18 months in particular has been extremely poor
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
The reason so many of us have walked away is exactly for the reasons Pete says, we have become Rowley FC not Altrincham FC, not a penny more we say, the club is not ours until Rowley has gone and this from home and away supporters of 30 years faces we would all recognise. It's not just me, I'm just the only one daft enough to post on here
Enjoy the football, but for some of us getting our club back is more important and a stand has to be been made. But keep clapping you might be right
However the ridicule towards those who continue to make that stand from moderators of this forum and those who when we were losing last year were happy to make the stand as well is sicking. Rowley must be laughing his socks off, he's made fools of us all
Not in my name
I don't get it? What exactly is it that your doing to get 'your' club back? And what do you mean by getting it back? You never had it, you don't own the club.
Don't get me wrong I think the chairmans done an awful job in the last few years and I think we need new blood. i just don't really understand what would be your ideal end to the situation?
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Just out of interest how much has been raised so far by the fan consortium to buy back your own club? The shares are there for the taking....
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
"If I thought it was in the best interests of the football club for me to step aside, then I would...I've got to get them back to where they were."
I'm not sure it is the supporters who have made one individual bigger than the club? The future well-being of this football club should be far more important than one man's personal redemption mission.
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Just deleted a couple of posts for obvious reasons.
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
"If I thought it was in the best interests of the football club for me to step aside, then I would...I've got to get them back to where they were."
I'm not sure it is the supporters who have made one individual bigger than the club? The future well-being of this football club should be far more important than one man's personal redemption mission.
Also it says a lot that GR's highest ambition for the club is to leave it no worse off than it was when he took over.
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Just out of interest how much has been raised so far by the fan consortium to buy back your own club? The shares are there for the taking....
Not sure .How much have you put in then we can go from there
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I don't have the passion for the club that some on here clearly do, so an investment in it wouldn't interest me.
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Just deleted a couple of posts for obvious reasons.
What did I say that overstepped the forum rules leading to it being removed? Thanks
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Correct me if I am wrong but if someone comes in and picks up 51% of the club it still will not be your club, it will be theirs.
How long before the club is 750K in debt again? I'm told Oldham Athletic failed to pay their players last month
i get your point on it not being our club or anyones club etc .
On the point of debt and poor financial managment we have just had a statement telling us we are spending beyond our means this season anyway
Sadly fear holds us back . You have to take risks to enable change
If we didnt we would still think the world was flat and flying was just for birds
I do not interpret spending some of the cash in the bank as spending beyond our means. It is dipping into reserves or spending money saved for a rainy day. I would much rather it was spent on building a new team now, than wasted on a desperate attempt to stave off relegation half way through last season.
You do have to take risks to enable change, I agree. But what is the change you are looking for? I'm happy following a decent team who play honest football. If we should achieve league status it all becomes too ugly and I'll find something else to do on Saturdays.
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"Also it says a lot that GR's highest ambition for the club is to leave it no worse off than it was when he took over."
You are putting words in his mouth. He has not said getting it back where it was is his HIGHEST ambition.
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Just deleted a couple of posts for obvious reasons.
What did I say that overstepped the forum rules leading to it being removed? Thanks
there was nothing wrong with it. It was a reply to the post I deleted so it made no sense. No offence intended
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I don't have the passion for the club that some on here clearly do, so an investment in it wouldn't interest me.
thats a shame
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Correct me if I am wrong but if someone comes in and picks up 51% of the club it still will not be your club, it will be theirs.
How long before the club is 750K in debt again? I'm told Oldham Athletic failed to pay their players last month
i get your point on it not being our club or anyones club etc .
On the point of debt and poor financial managment we have just had a statement telling us we are spending beyond our means this season anyway
Sadly fear holds us back . You have to take risks to enable change
If we didnt we would still think the world was flat and flying was just for birds
I do not interpret spending some of the cash in the bank as spending beyond our means. It is dipping into reserves or spending money saved for a rainy day. I would much rather it was spent on building a new team now, than wasted on a desperate attempt to stave off relegation half way through last season.
You do have to take risks to enable change, I agree. But what is the change you are looking for? I'm happy following a decent team who play honest football. If we should achieve league status it all becomes too ugly and I'll find something else to do on Saturdays.
im surprised you need to ask . Ive posted my feelings numerous times . To be clear once more however i am 100% behind Phil and the team . I am surprised you are still coming now tbh there have been 2 lots of ugly scenes this season already due to lack of segregation of which we patiently await the detailed findings of who made the decison not to segregate ....🤔🤔🤔
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
The reason so many of us have walked away is exactly for the reasons Pete says, we have become Rowley FC not Altrincham FC, not a penny more we say, the club is not ours until Rowley has gone and this from home and away supporters of 30 years faces we would all recognise. It's not just me, I'm just the only one daft enough to post on here
Enjoy the football, but for some of us getting our club back is more important and a stand has to be been made. But keep clapping you might be right
However the ridicule towards those who continue to make that stand from moderators of this forum and those who when we were losing last year were happy to make the stand as well is sicking. Rowley must be laughing his socks off, he's made fools of us all
Not in my name
I don't get it? What exactly is it that your doing to get 'your' club back? And what do you mean by getting it back? You never had it, you don't own the club.
Don't get me wrong I think the chairmans done an awful job in the last few years and I think we need new blood. i just don't really understand what would be your ideal end to the situation?
I didn't say your I said our - stop being pedantic when you know exactly what I mean - it's commonly accepted that football clubs belong to the the supporters (hence our club) and that directors/chairmen are merely the custodians of the football club on behalf of those supporters
Or you saying that not the case here? Truly Rowley is bigger than the club in your eyes. You don't understand what my ideal end to the situation is? Really, how many times have I said Rowley out, what don't you actually get about that? Whats not clear? How out of touch are you. This isn't some game just to annoy you as a moderator
What am I doing? I'm doing more than most at least I have made a stand for my principles (like many others have). We had Rowley on the ropes last season but he was let off the hook by the dissolution of the Rowley out campaign, six months later a couple of wins in a tinpot league and he's sitting pretty again (as his statement clearly demonstrates). He isn't going anyway unless pressure is exerted, happy clapping or not
What are you doing?
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
The reason so many of us have walked away is exactly for the reasons Pete says, we have become Rowley FC not Altrincham FC, not a penny more we say, the club is not ours until Rowley has gone and this from home and away supporters of 30 years faces we would all recognise. It's not just me, I'm just the only one daft enough to post on here
Enjoy the football, but for some of us getting our club back is more important and a stand has to be been made. But keep clapping you might be right
However the ridicule towards those who continue to make that stand from moderators of this forum and those who when we were losing last year were happy to make the stand as well is sicking. Rowley must be laughing his socks off, he's made fools of us all
Not in my name
I don't get it? What exactly is it that your doing to get 'your' club back? And what do you mean by getting it back? You never had it, you don't own the club.
Don't get me wrong I think the chairmans done an awful job in the last few years and I think we need new blood. i just don't really understand what would be your ideal end to the situation?
I didn't say your I said our - stop being pedantic when you know exactly what I mean - it's commonly accepted that football clubs belong to the the supporters (hence our club) and that directors/chairmen are merely the custodians of the football club on behalf of those supporters
Or you saying that not the case here? Truly Rowley is bigger than the club in your eyes. You don't understand what my ideal end to the situation is? Really, how many times have I said Rowley out, what don't you actually get about that? Whats not clear? How out of touch are you. This isn't some game just to annoy you as a moderator
What am I doing? I'm doing more than most at least I have made a stand for my principles (like many others have). We had Rowley on the ropes last season but he was let off the hook by the dissolution of the Rowley out campaign, six months later a couple of wins in a tinpot league and he's sitting pretty again (as his statement clearly demonstrates). He isn't going anyway unless pressure is exerted, happy clapping or not
What are you doing?
Rowley is not bigger than the club in my eyes. Don't write words on my behalf.
My point is what do you want beyond Rowley out? It doesn't just stop when he goes.
What am I doing? I'm supporting the club I love. I don't share the extremity of your views, I think the chairman should go but I think the outcome of the share offering purchase, currently under NDA, needs to be heard first.
If that turns out the way I think it will then there will be serious concerns and reason to protest and I'll do my part.
In the meantime the fans of this football club should be allowed to enjoy the positive results on the pitch without being lambasted for it and referred to as happy clappers. I find it patronising.
In all honesty I'm fed up of all of this and playing out all of our frustrations to each other on the internet is achieving nothing and quite frankly tedious.
I'll say no more for a while
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I'm just glad the interview has achieved its aim and stopped all the infighting
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Too far gone for this. People will not come back until the chairman is replaced. Not once a year johnnys, bread and butter long term supporters of this club. I remember when the club was bigger than any individual
but aren't those who hold this attitude exactly the ones who have made this one issue / one individual bigger than the club. "I'm boycotting the whole club because of one individual - no individual is bigger than the club" Does that not strike you as a slightly ridiculous statement?
The reason so many of us have walked away is exactly for the reasons Pete says, we have become Rowley FC not Altrincham FC, not a penny more we say, the club is not ours until Rowley has gone and this from home and away supporters of 30 years faces we would all recognise. It's not just me, I'm just the only one daft enough to post on here
Enjoy the football, but for some of us getting our club back is more important and a stand has to be been made. But keep clapping you might be right
However the ridicule towards those who continue to make that stand from moderators of this forum and those who when we were losing last year were happy to make the stand as well is sicking. Rowley must be laughing his socks off, he's made fools of us all
Not in my name
I don't get it? What exactly is it that your doing to get 'your' club back? And what do you mean by getting it back? You never had it, you don't own the club.
Don't get me wrong I think the chairmans done an awful job in the last few years and I think we need new blood. i just don't really understand what would be your ideal end to the situation?
I didn't say your I said our - stop being pedantic when you know exactly what I mean - it's commonly accepted that football clubs belong to the the supporters (hence our club) and that directors/chairmen are merely the custodians of the football club on behalf of those supporters
Or you saying that not the case here? Truly Rowley is bigger than the club in your eyes. You don't understand what my ideal end to the situation is? Really, how many times have I said Rowley out, what don't you actually get about that? Whats not clear? How out of touch are you. This isn't some game just to annoy you as a moderator
What am I doing? I'm doing more than most at least I have made a stand for my principles (like many others have). We had Rowley on the ropes last season but he was let off the hook by the dissolution of the Rowley out campaign, six months later a couple of wins in a tinpot league and he's sitting pretty again (as his statement clearly demonstrates). He isn't going anyway unless pressure is exerted, happy clapping or not
What are you doing?
Careful,don't piss the moderators off. So much for free speech.
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If you don't want to get your posts deleted play the "argument" rather than the man. I try to get my point on here without being disrespectful to anyone.
I am bemused by the idea that anyone can get behind the team but not the chairman. Who appointed the manager that signed the players? As far as I can see Phil is going to do good things with this squad and as time goes on your stance is going to look out on a limb. I know he AND the board have made some decisions that didn't play out as they expected but so have I. My wife isn't filing for divorce just yet. I agree with the view that Grahame Rowley has no intention of stepping down. Nor would I.
Regarding trouble at the ground I missed the Barwell game but wasn't it Leicester fans that caused the trouble? I like the idea of not needing to segregate the fans. It is a relatively recent phenomena. Football managed without segregation for eighty years and no other sport needs it. Shame on us.
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If you don't want to get your posts deleted play the "argument" rather than the man. I try to get my point on here without being disrespectful to anyone.
I am bemused by the idea that anyone can get behind the team but not the chairman. Who appointed the manager that signed the players? As far as I can see Phil is going to do good things with this squad and as time goes on your stance is going to look out on a limb. I know he AND the board have made some decisions that didn't play out as they expected but so have I. My wife isn't filing for divorce just yet. I agree with the view that Grahame Rowley has no intention of stepping down. Nor would I.
Regarding trouble at the ground I missed the Barwell game but wasn't it Leicester fans that caused the trouble? I like the idea of not needing to segregate the fans. It is a relatively recent phenomena. Football managed without segregation for eighty years and no other sport needs it. Shame on us.
Im sorry but saying Parky is a good apppointment (which he is) does not negate the prior awful appointments and revolving door of players last season. And also the phrase ‘get behind the chairman’ is a bit odd, we are Altrincham FC not Rowley FC, all the hopefully extra punters turning up tomorrow will not give a monkeys who the Chairman is, however some of them might think ‘Alty were playing Bristol Rovers and Tranmere two years ago, I wonder what’s happened to them since’. Genuinely the man has to leave his role as soon as expedient. He has overseen an appalling decline in our fortunes & the buck stops with him.
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I'm just glad the interview has achieved its aim and stopped all the infighting
Are you taking your surname Kevin 😉
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If you don't want to get your posts deleted play the "argument" rather than the man. I try to get my point on here without being disrespectful to anyone.
I am bemused by the idea that anyone can get behind the team but not the chairman. Who appointed the manager that signed the players? As far as I can see Phil is going to do good things with this squad and as time goes on your stance is going to look out on a limb. I know he AND the board have made some decisions that didn't play out as they expected but so have I. My wife isn't filing for divorce just yet. I agree with the view that Grahame Rowley has no intention of stepping down. Nor would I.
Regarding trouble at the ground I missed the Barwell game but wasn't it Leicester fans that caused the trouble? I like the idea of not needing to segregate the fans. It is a relatively recent phenomena. Football managed without segregation for eighty years and no other sport needs it. Shame on us.
we could carry this on for the rest of the season but im boring myself now to be honest . Last thoughts... so if im reading this right you were not behind the board and chairman when they made poor decisons ? If thats the case youve hid it well fair play to you . Does it matter who caused the trouble ? The ugly scenes happend . To fear progress into the leauge because it may get ugly given its already happened doesnt add up to me.
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If you don't want to get your posts deleted play the "argument" rather than the man. I try to get my point on here without being disrespectful to anyone.
I am bemused by the idea that anyone can get behind the team but not the chairman. Who appointed the manager that signed the players? As far as I can see Phil is going to do good things with this squad and as time goes on your stance is going to look out on a limb. I know he AND the board have made some decisions that didn't play out as they expected but so have I. My wife isn't filing for divorce just yet. I agree with the view that Grahame Rowley has no intention of stepping down. Nor would I.
Regarding trouble at the ground I missed the Barwell game but wasn't it Leicester fans that caused the trouble? I like the idea of not needing to segregate the fans. It is a relatively recent phenomena. Football managed without segregation for eighty years and no other sport needs it. Shame on us.
I think it was fairly clear from the GR's programme notes etc. that, left to his own devices, he would have appointed Matt Doughty. I believe it was the influence of the new board members that forced a genuine interview process on him.
Phil Parkinson does appear to be a good appointment. But that doesn't alter my view that GR is a disaster of a chairman and him stepping down is vital for the long-term interests of the football club. You can of course disagree with that but I can't see any logical difficulty in that position.
And managing to blame 'us' for the behaviour of drunk Stafford and Leicester fans is quite some leap.
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If you don't want to get your posts deleted play the "argument" rather than the man. I try to get my point on here without being disrespectful to anyone.
I am bemused by the idea that anyone can get behind the team but not the chairman. Who appointed the manager that signed the players? As far as I can see Phil is going to do good things with this squad and as time goes on your stance is going to look out on a limb. I know he AND the board have made some decisions that didn't play out as they expected but so have I. My wife isn't filing for divorce just yet. I agree with the view that Grahame Rowley has no intention of stepping down. Nor would I.
Regarding trouble at the ground I missed the Barwell game but wasn't it Leicester fans that caused the trouble? I like the idea of not needing to segregate the fans. It is a relatively recent phenomena. Football managed without segregation for eighty years and no other sport needs it. Shame on us.
I think it was fairly clear from the GR's programme notes etc. that, left to his own devices, he would have appointed Matt Doughty. I believe it was the influence of the new board members that forced a genuine interview process on him.
Phil Parkinson does appear to be a good appointment. But that doesn't alter my view that GR is a disaster of a chairman and him stepping down is vital for the long-term interests of the football club. You can of course disagree with that but I can't see any logical difficulty in that position.
And managing to blame 'us' for the behaviour of drunk Stafford and Leicester fans is quite some leap.
it was "our" fault ie the clubs but certainly not the fans as you say .
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For your information, Stacey Rowley leaves her post as CSH manager on friday. She has done a very good job and Judy (also excellent) will now be taking over as manager I understand and her job advertised.
Has she taken the clicker with her or will Judy also be taking over this role?
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Yawn!
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Yawn!
You seem to have a personal vendetta against me which is a bit weird especially as you don't have the passion for the club that I do.