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Title: Nantwich Town
Post by: VofD on September 17, 2017, 11:27:47 PM
10th in the League : Alty 13th.

Nantwich into 3rd Qualy Round of FA Cup : Alty OUT

Nantwich doing very well, thank you, without Parkinson.

F*** off Parkinson.

Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 18, 2017, 12:21:38 AM
We're only behind them in the league on goal difference.....and we have a game in hand. They really aren't doing any better than we are.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: wayno on September 18, 2017, 06:27:14 AM
im hoping Phil wont read this nonsense . And if he does i hope he understands that its not the view of all the fans

I feel awful for anyone who went to see that on Saturday . The fans deserve better as Phil states in his interview

He knows its not acceptable

The last thing we need here is a new manger

More change more unrest more uncertainty

We need structure and long term focus along with a cash injection to bring in a proven striker who we pay what we have to pay .

If we got rid of Phil i have no idea of what credible manager would want this job

No one would want a job where you dont show trust to a longer term goal

up the reds
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Teasierbeaver on September 18, 2017, 08:33:11 AM
10th in the League : Alty 13th.

Nantwich into 3rd Qualy Round of FA Cup : Alty OUT

Nantwich doing very well, thank you, without Parkinson.

F*** off Parkinson.



Ridiculous thing to post. On Sunday night too, not even right after the game. Can only hope you were plastered.

Granted, we just had a poor result, but what exactly were you expecting this season? We've just been the worst team in the country for 12-16 months and we're being overseen by a board who dont instil any confidence. The fella is building a team from nothing and carrying a few players on old contracts.

If was still at Nantwich I imagine they would be much higher up the league although obviously we would be top because it was between Phil Parkinson and Sam Allardyce for the Alty job and we went and chose the wrong man which you can see after a handful of games (half of which we have won).

I honestly can't believe that anyone was expecting us to walk this season and beat anyone we played. You cant go from last season to being unbeatable, or even close, it just isn't possible at this level.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: GB Alty on September 18, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
10th in the League : Alty 13th.

Nantwich into 3rd Qualy Round of FA Cup : Alty OUT

Nantwich doing very well, thank you, without Parkinson.

F*** off Parkinson.


fair post

I always said I'd give any manager 10 league games we should know whats what by then - so big 2 games coming up, currently 13th and out of the cup is not good enough. At least PP see's that now even if many on here don't
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Forza Alty on September 18, 2017, 10:01:35 AM
One or two games have been terrible this season - matlock and Shildon away. These performances can't continue, but I suppose you could say it will take a while to build a new team and get them to click, however fewer and fewer people will turn up to watch unentertaining rubbish like last Saturday. The Clock is ticking...
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Alty Bri on September 18, 2017, 10:24:47 AM
The first three lines of the post are perfectly fair unfortunately.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Friar Tuck on September 18, 2017, 10:53:49 AM
Easy to make such a simple comparison.

To be equally simplistic, in the opposite direction:

Nantwich are only level on points with Altricnham, despite playing a game more including two more home games.

Nantwich haven't beaten anyone in the top ten, Altrincham have beaten two of the top five.

Nantwich failed to be an Altrincham side with ten men, at home.

Of course, none of this has true validity until at least 15/16 games into the season when the table is really sorting itself out.

Hope the head isn't too sore this morning...
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Snork Maiden on September 18, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
Easy to make such a simple comparison.

To be equally simplistic, in the opposite direction:

Nantwich are only level on points with Altricnham, despite playing a game more including two more home games.

Nantwich haven't beaten anyone in the top ten, Altrincham have beaten two of the top five.

Nantwich failed to be an Altrincham side with ten men, at home.

Of course, none of this has true validity until at least 15/16 games into the season when the table is really sorting itself out.

Hope the head isn't too sore this morning...

I just can't believe we're actually comparing ourselves with Nantwich! Thanks Mr Rowley!
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: The Thriving Jezza on September 18, 2017, 12:56:08 PM
I agree with stability and sticking with PP.

But lets not forget the plan is not to consolidate for a few years....we are here to bounce straight back...a cup run would have helped financially......but I'd like to see urgency and quality bits of the jigsaw being added....PP should be feeling pressure and support from the chairman.

The year we won the APL Tony sanders wasn't happy with the keeper and bought in Stepney, then he bought in Whitbread to increase our fire power......Bernard got rid of kilkcline cleghorn and dibble and bought in Coburn and ward......

reaching a play off in this crap league and a trophy semi is all well and good, PP needs to raise his game and urgency and think about high quality players like Hulme and poole and forget the evostick crack fillers.

A commanding keeper and a marauding box to box midfield colossus will be a start.....the longer this takes the more concerned I will be and less confident that we have the right man for the job....

The minimum I'd accept this season is missing out in the play offs....we are in real danger of not making the play offs with the current set up.

The chairman should be saying this to PP.....I doubt he is somehow so we still need change at the very top and hope a bit of grit will seep downwards instead of the accepting where we are and saying we all have off days....
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: AFC56 on September 18, 2017, 01:19:50 PM
I agree with the above. PP needs to urgently sign a goalkeeper and a central midfielder. A change of formation whilst Poole isn't playing is a must too. Hulme is far too isolated up front on his own.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 18, 2017, 10:58:45 PM
I agree with stability and sticking with PP.

But lets not forget the plan is not to consolidate for a few years....we are here to bounce straight back...a cup run would have helped financially......but I'd like to see urgency and quality bits of the jigsaw being added....PP should be feeling pressure and support from the chairman.

The year we won the APL Tony sanders wasn't happy with the keeper and bought in Stepney, then he bought in Whitbread to increase our fire power......Bernard got rid of kilkcline cleghorn and dibble and bought in Coburn and ward......

reaching a play off in this crap league and a trophy semi is all well and good, PP needs to raise his game and urgency and think about high quality players like Hulme and poole and forget the evostick crack fillers.

A commanding keeper and a marauding box to box midfield colossus will be a start.....the longer this takes the more concerned I will be and less confident that we have the right man for the job....

The minimum I'd accept this season is missing out in the play offs....we are in real danger of not making the play offs with the current set up.

The chairman should be saying this to PP.....I doubt he is somehow so we still need change at the very top and hope a bit of grit will seep downwards instead of the accepting where we are and saying we all have off days....

Is Hulme really "high quality"?
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: The Thriving Jezza on September 19, 2017, 07:25:49 AM
I think so yes...he's very isolated i think and would be better alongside another decent forward..
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: robininstockport on September 19, 2017, 07:59:06 AM
If Poole doesn't play in 10 role then whoever plays upfront is going to be isolated. 

Going to be a very tough game tonight, really hope Poole starts.

Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 19, 2017, 08:38:29 AM
I think so yes...he's very isolated i think and would be better alongside another decent forward..

Whilst that's true, he's also done absolutely nothing to show any particular ability IMO. For those who hold a different opinion, I'm interested to know what people see as his primary attributes?

Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: The Thriving Jezza on September 19, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Mr Rage,
I'm sure you'd think the same about Damian Reeves if he was in our side at the moment....yet he is banging them in for fun again for shaw lane....

He does get into goal scoring positions and does score goals when the service comes to him...but he is running his socks off outside the penalty area much like damian did all last season...he shows good control and passing he's just always too far away from goal to have an impact.

I'd like to see Amiss play alongside Hulme and have poole if fit playing behind them both...have one winger alternating wings (miller or JJ) or miller on left jj on right....

I think even when poole is fit he plays behind Hulme instead of alongside him.....and any striker would suffer as a result...

As an addition at corners I guess everyone notices that poole goes across in case a short corner can be on....this takes two defenders out of the box so an extra forward like amiss may just be able to score from a corner...that would be a rarity!

Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Toff Apple on September 19, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
I don't think we should panic, excepting the game away at Workington our formation has been solid for the last 6 games.  As for Parkinson what disgraceful comments by VofD.  Ok we got knocked out of the cup but seriously what do you expect this year?  It was always going to be an ask to turn the ship immediately, as long as we keep picking up points this month we will be there or there abouts come may
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Alty Bri on September 19, 2017, 03:25:07 PM
Yep, agree with Jezza on this one. Hulme AND Amis for me, with Poole behind them. Would go so far as to omit the wingers altogether (too lightweight and predictable) and go with 3 centre mids (we are very ineffective there). We need to be more narrow and more direct and win this league ugly. With some small tweaks we will be okay; is PP brave enough to change things?
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: AltySupporter on September 19, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
I don't think we should panic, excepting the game away at Workington our formation has been solid for the last 6 games.  As for Parkinson what disgraceful comments by VofD.  Ok we got knocked out of the cup but seriously what do you expect this year?  It was always going to be an ask to turn the ship immediately, as long as we keep picking up points this month we will be there or there abouts come may

Very sensible and realistic post. We don't need to hear from full time whingers who wouldn't be happy if we were top of the league. This is essentially a new team and we have a manager with a solid reputation at this level so let's have a bit of support in adversity - some people are too quick to jump on anything going wrong. Yes, Saturday was a bad day and not all the results & performances have been perfect but we are supporters aren't we?

Col.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: The Thriving Jezza on September 20, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
10th 14 in the League : Alty 13th. 8th and with a game in hand

Nantwich into 3rd Qualy Round of FA Cup : Alty OUT

Nantwich in bottom half without Parkinson.

Praise Parkinson.



sorry v of D but you set this one up as temptingly as farsley's defence last night  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: VofD on September 20, 2017, 05:12:02 PM
You're not wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: oneedham on September 20, 2017, 06:48:36 PM
Yep, agree with Jezza on this one. Hulme AND Amis for me, with Poole behind them. Would go so far as to omit the wingers altogether (too lightweight and predictable) and go with 3 centre mids (we are very ineffective there). We need to be more narrow and more direct and win this league ugly. With some small tweaks we will be okay; is PP brave enough to change things?

Wow, very surprised by this.  All our dangerous attacks came down the wing last night. JJ was immense and not at all predictable,as he got past his man time after time. Why go narrow when we have JJ and hopefully Miller who will rinse most full backs in this league. You have to open up the centre of the pitch to create more chances. Does it massively matter if Hulme is not scoring every week when others chip in? Hulme closes the defenders down and causes errors, he is very good at that. I worry with Amis we will go back to pumping long balls and that got us nowhere with the likes of Perry, Owens and even Rankine.  For me you have Poole behind Hulme with JJ and either Hancock or Miller on the other wing. I would have Moult defensive mid and Richman the engine and presser. The defence is good enough, however we need a keeper and a box to box mid. Last night was a joy to watch and JJ dictated the game, Hancock was very very good also.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: AFC56 on September 20, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Yep, agree with Jezza on this one. Hulme AND Amis for me, with Poole behind them. Would go so far as to omit the wingers altogether (too lightweight and predictable) and go with 3 centre mids (we are very ineffective there). We need to be more narrow and more direct and win this league ugly. With some small tweaks we will be okay; is PP brave enough to change things?

Wow, very surprised by this.  All our dangerous attacks came down the wing last night. JJ was immense and not at all predictable,as he got past his man time after time. Why go narrow when we have JJ and hopefully Miller who will rinse most full backs in this league. You have to open up the centre of the pitch to create more chances. Does it massively matter if Hulme is not scoring every week when others chip in? Hulme closes the defenders down and causes errors, he is very good at that. I worry with Amis we will go back to pumping long balls and that got us nowhere with the likes of Perry, Owens and even Rankine.  For me you have Poole behind Hulme with JJ and either Hancock or Miller on the other wing. I would have Moult defensive mid and Richman the engine and presser. The defence is good enough, however we need a keeper and a box to box mid. Last night was a joy to watch and JJ dictated the game, Hancock was very very good also.

Totally agree
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 20, 2017, 07:08:20 PM
I thought collectively the whole team was good yesterday - Bembo-Lita was superb last night as was the rest of the team. They had a point to prove and they did it well. Thoroughly enjoyed myself last night but I have missed a few games this season.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 21, 2017, 09:27:45 AM
To say we don't need width, when we have the likes of JJ in our ranks, is absolutely ridiculous.

Proper width is what we've needed for YEARS.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Friar Tuck on September 26, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
10th in the League : Alty 13th.

Nantwich into 3rd Qualy Round of FA Cup : Alty OUT

Nantwich doing very well, thank you, without Parkinson.

F*** off Parkinson.



And nine days later..... oops!
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 26, 2017, 09:22:02 PM
I think the Hulme doubters are looking a bit silly.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Alty Bri on September 26, 2017, 10:03:44 PM
I was one of Hulme's doubters. I was wrong thank God.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Sale Holmfield on September 26, 2017, 10:08:04 PM
So was I, and have already said I was wrong. I can only think his lack of much of a pre-season accounted for his slow start, but once he got going,he hasn't looked back.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Alty Bri on September 26, 2017, 10:09:41 PM
So was I, and have already said I was wrong. I can only think his lack of much of a pre-season accounted for his slow start, but once he got going,he hasn't looked back.

Agree
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 26, 2017, 10:41:40 PM
So was I, and have already said I was wrong. I can only think his lack of much of a pre-season accounted for his slow start, but once he got going,he hasn't looked back.

Agree
Me too. I was scathing after Nantwich, but I'm happy to eat my words.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Snork Maiden on September 27, 2017, 08:14:58 AM
I think the Hulme doubters are looking a bit silly.

I wouldn't say they look silly for doubting a player who started very slowly but glad he's proved us all wrong.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on September 27, 2017, 08:24:48 AM
Good for him playing well and I'm happy for him to continue to prove me wrong with more good performances
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 27, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
We also don't know what affect being given a professional football contract one minute by a club you've served loyally and then being told they've changed their minds for no apparent reason the next has on a young lad. He is really coming into his own now. Never stopped running last night
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 27, 2017, 08:44:40 AM
The lad's really into being at the club on social media - and I like the fact he leads the line vocally at times (something which concerned some in pre-season).

In that respect, I despair at the fact we held on to people like Lawrie for so many years.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 27, 2017, 11:23:29 AM
The lad's really into being at the club on social media - and I like the fact he leads the line vocally at times (something which concerned some in pre-season).

In that respect, I despair at the fact we held on to people like Lawrie for so many years.
He certainly leads by example, and it encourages his team mates to do likewise.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Andrew Flynn on September 27, 2017, 02:44:23 PM
Love the guy.
Title: Re: Nantwich Town
Post by: Friar Tuck on October 14, 2017, 05:12:07 PM
Easy to make such a simple comparison.

To be equally simplistic, in the opposite direction:

Nantwich are only level on points with Altricnham, despite playing a game more including two more home games.

Nantwich haven't beaten anyone in the top ten, Altrincham have beaten two of the top five.

Nantwich failed to be an Altrincham side with ten men, at home.

Of course, none of this has true validity until at least 15/16 games into the season when the table is really sorting itself out.

Hope the head isn't too sore this morning...

I don't claim to get everything right but this wasn't a bad call....