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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on September 03, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
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Fingers crossed we've enough players fit to play the game. Can't dwell on yesterday's calamity, just get the game won. Strongest available 11 to start
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Dreading it
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We need to put this game to bed on Tuesday then get back to a main aim which is getting out of this league.
Considering all the success we have had in beating league teams in this competition over the years, We do seem to struggle against teams that in all honesty we should beat
I will there on Tuesday, I don't like driving back to Shropshire disappointed so sort it out guys....
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Bring your boots
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Bring your boots
Christ, things are not that bad. I hung my boots up for golf clubs years ago fella...
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4-0 Alty
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"They are all niggly little injuries, so it's hard to say. I would like to think the majority of them will be all right for Tuesday. I haven't had the chance to speak properly with James Poole yet, but he came off because he felt I slight hamstring twinge. It's nothing major, but he just felt it a little bit, and you have to be so careful with things like that. Ben Harrison was the same, the hamstring hasn't gone, but he just felt it a bit. The challenge on Laurence Taylor (right) didn't look good, but we need to assess him properly to get a clearer idea of how he is.
John Disney has had a scan, and we need to see how that went. Simon Richman may hopefully be only a week away, but it could be two, because it was a sprain, and you need the swelling to go down to see where he is up to, in terms of how much pressure he can put on the ankle.
When major players have to come off, regardless of the level you are playing at, it is bound to affect you. Coming in to the game, I gave Abbey Hey all the respect they were due by putting out a full-strength team, given what was available to me, so it wasn't a case of me or the players taking it lightly. We just didn't perform to the level we needed to. Injuries do play a part in that, but there is no way we are going to use that as an excuse. It just wasn't good enough, and it has to be better next time".
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Possibly we need a new keeper ? box to box midfielder who can also create and jury out on one or two of the defenders ? Attack wise looking ok especially with Miller and Amis being due back in the near future
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Possibly we need a new keeper ? box to box midfielder who can also create and jury out on one or two of the defenders ? Attack wise looking ok especially with Miller and Amis being due back in the near future
Do you think so? I think we're incredibly weak up front personally, and I've learned not to rely on long term injured players returning...
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Possibly we need a new keeper ? box to box midfielder who can also create and jury out on one or two of the defenders ? Attack wise looking ok especially with Miller and Amis being due back in the near future
Do you think so? I think we're incredibly weak up front personally, and I've learned not to rely on long term injured players returning...
Compared to other departments of the team yes, we have scored 9 goals in the last 3 games and have 2 players coming back from injury who should look good at this level
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Its a very good interview though, not the usual, "we were unlucky etc". Well done PP as has been mentioned before as long as we con dispatch Abbey Hey maybe not so bad that we don't face Lancaster at the moment
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Its a very good interview though, not the usual, "we were unlucky etc". Well done PP as has been mentioned before as long as we con dispatch Abbey Hey maybe not so bad that we don't face Lancaster at the moment
Agreed. PP elaborates on a lot of the things that have been called out on here but for me it boils down to 2.5 years of losing football and a soft mentality that may have permeated through to this group of players even though most of them have nothing to do with our 2 straight relegations. It needs to be stamped out fast lest we turn into an Evostik version of Arsenal. There's a lot of nostalgia for your Val's/Eddie's etc but maybe those type of players don't exist as much these days but still i don't understand how we can go to Witton and play like we did there but either side of that two chaotic displays vs Coalville and Abbey Hey.
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Will it be £5 entrance?
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Will it be £5 entrance?
I suppose if we want the manager to strengthen the squad then it will be normal prices.... perhaps those that played on Saturday should pay a fiver ;)
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I suppose we should at least be grateful that we're in tomorrow's draw. Eight teams from our league won't be.
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Need a new keeper and defensive midfielder. Can't wait for Amis and Miller to get back. We also miss Simon Richman badly.
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Will it be £5 entrance?
I suppose if we want the manager to strengthen the squad then it will be normal prices.... perhaps those that played on Saturday should pay a fiver ;)
I thought there was an FA directiive that says the replay admission can't be more than the original tie?
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Need a new keeper and defensive midfielder. Can't wait for Amis and Miller to get back. We also miss Simon Richman badly.
Spoke briefly to Ringo on the way out yesterday. He reckons "a couple of weeks" before he's back.
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Games without James Poole, 1.5 conceded 6 scored 0
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Will it be £5 entrance?
I suppose if we want the manager to strengthen the squad then it will be normal prices.... perhaps those that played on Saturday should pay a fiver ;)
I thought there was an FA directiive that says the replay admission can't be more than the original tie?
I've never heard of that directive.
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I suspect that we are heading for our lowest attendance on record for a home FA Cup game, especially if the club are unable to offer discounted admission prices for this one.
I'll leave it to roytonmike to produce the relevant statistics on here, as I don't want to pilfer his research....
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I suspect that we are heading for our lowest attendance on record for a home FA Cup game, especially if the club are unable to offer discounted admission prices for this one.
I'll leave it to roytonmike to produce the relevant statistics on here, as I don't want to pilfer his research....
To be honest right now we just need to get through this.
A win at Shildon probably offers PP enough cash to bring in a half decent player. The alternative is using the kids when we need to bring in men, the odd angry one at that.
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I suspect that we are heading for our lowest attendance on record for a home FA Cup game, especially if the club are unable to offer discounted admission prices for this one.
I'll leave it to roytonmike to produce the relevant statistics on here, as I don't want to pilfer his research....
In answer to Cult's invitation (tho' I agree that getting thru tomorrow evening is the critical thing):
Lowest home attendance in FA Cup 513 v Kendal Town (2002, 2nd QR)
Lowest attendance in any FA Cup game involving Alty 288 @ Shildon (2012, 2QR)
Lowest attendance on my radar in any Alty game at Moss Lane 106 v Stockport Sports (2014, CSC1)
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So it looks like this, Amiss, Miller, Disney, Richman and Taylor are definitely out. Poole, Harrison, Densmore and Short are carrying a knock.
I genuinely can't see us winning
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So it looks like this, Amiss, Miller, Disney, Richman and Taylor are definitely out. Poole, Harrison, Densmore and Short are carrying a knock.
I genuinely can't see us winning
Even if all the mentioned players don't or can't start and a couple of reserves have to play losing would still be a disaster
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Alty 1/3
Draw 7/2
Abbey Hey 6/1
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Alty 1/3
Draw 7/2
Abbey Hey 6/1
Think Saturday was the first game for quite a few years where there were no online odds available for the game.
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The odds compilers like everybody else presumed it was a given!
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Suggest someone somewhere has a monkey on Abbey Hey just in case
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Will it be £5 entrance?
I suppose if we want the manager to strengthen the squad then it will be normal prices.... perhaps those that played on Saturday should pay a fiver ;)
I thought there was an FA directiive that says the replay admission can't be more than the original tie?
I've never heard of that directive.
Must have dreamt It!
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From the sounds of things Poole is going to be OK - so we should HOPEFULLY have enough to get through tonight.
Shildon, however, is another matter.
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If we win tonight, and comfortably, maybe we could just put the first game down to a bad day at the office and move on from it. A good win tonight sets us up nicely for the trip to Barwell and we may well be right on track after that.
I think we're all understandably deeply scarred from last season but things are definitely more positive now than 12 months ago.
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IF we scrape through tonight, we'll have another couple of league games under our belt before we hit Shildon which should hopefully help things.
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I am hoping from a professional response from the players tonight (whatever team is put out due to injuries).
PP is learning a lot in a short time here about the team and players. I'll be there + 2
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Were in the hat still onwards and upwards
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Missed about 20 chances, and again should have been out of sight by half time. Another spirited abbey Hey performance but they shouldn't have been in any position to worry us when they scored with their first real effort via an unfortunate defection on 74 minutes. Glad we managed to get through whilst giving some lads time to recover for Saturday. Need to get in that loan market this week, if given the choice, striker and combative pacey midfielder and anothe full back. Onwards to Saturday
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Were in the hat still onwards and up ::)wards
We have already been in the hat : Shildon away. ::) ::)
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Nervous last 15 mins but job done. Thought Densmore and Short did well considering they're not 100%.
Also well done to Max Harrop who did nothing wrong when he came on.
Finally to the 2 people behind me first half who continually moaned about Moult, what a ball that was to Johnson for the 2nd
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I thought Max Harrop achieved more in his first 10 minutes on the pitch than Tom Peers did during his contribution tonight and Saturday combined.
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You can only beat whats in front of you and that was one of the most one sided games I have seen in a long while.
For me PP is on the right track and with patience this could become a very good side. They have loads on pace, urgency and skill but lack composure in front of goal at present.
Missing Poole tonight who is a class act. They all put in a shift but Hulme did a huge amount, just wish we had someone down the middle who can put the ball in the net but PP isnt trying to get crosses in at all. Maybe Amis would give us a plan B we need in some games when he is fit again.
My glass is half full.
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We were certainly the dominant team but the final ball was terrible.
So much hard work, running and energy to get the ball to the edge of the penalty area, and then we hit the corner flag a couple of times with shots, we were so bad. For all the possession very few actual shots on target.
Thank goodness the Abbey Hey forwards didn't understand the offside rule.
Brilliant goal by Johnson the one bright spark in the evening.
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Peers was mostly anonymous but Harrop, for all his running, seemed unsure of what to do with the ball when it came to him. Hulme seems to have a better opinion of his ability than I've seen so far, and his attempts to niggle the oppo towards the end were embarrassing. Still, it's a win and, generally, things are moving in the right direction, so let's try to be positive.
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Abbey Hey were a limited, but spirited, side who certainly made us work hard for our eventual victory, and I am sure they will soon rise up the NWCL table. Elliot Wynne looked comfortably the best of the three goalkeepers involved in this tie, and I would really hope we would enquire to see if he fancies a chance playing at a higher level subject to him not being on contract or any other difficulties.
JJ deservedly man of the match, but a word of praise for Max Harrop who was vastly improved from the Stafford match.
I still have this feeling that the team hasn't quite clicked, thinking of the moves which came to nothing. Still, it's a win, we are in the next round, and are even on an unbeaten run now.
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They got in our box about twice, once to put the huge deflection away and once when they were throwing everything forward at the end.
Other than that we had to find a way through them. Finishing could have been better but they must blocked 4-5 shots with bodies and their young keeper did well. Johnston was unplayable tonight I thought, Sherdian had his best game that I have seen and Harrop offered something tricky when he came on.
Yes we laboured a bit and it would have been nice to bury them 4-0 but we are through with £3,000 banked.
Hopefully some of the reinforcements Parky talked about that couldn't come in before tonight will come in at the end of this week to stop the team picking itself with these injuries.
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A very one sided game and at the end of the day we got the job done.
Once we start to convert our chances we are going to hand out some hidings to teams
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Good to see Dens back and looking good, thought Harrop was good when he came on.
Thought the Abbey Hey keeper had a very good game, JJ thoroughly deserved the MoM
Once are wounded troops start to get fit and back playing we will have a decent team.
The standard of refs in this league/ Cup games are pretty sh*te but we have heard that before on plenty of occassions.
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I doubt I've seen a more one-sided half of football since the second half of the 8-0 win v Hinckley - we should have been out of sight and PP will see that as a major issue.
What a joy to watch JJ tonight - he was MoM by a country mile. Granted he'll have sterner tests (the right back will have seen him in his nightmares last night) but he fared well on the left and liked how he mixed cutting inside with reaching the byline and using his left foot. If PP starts deploying him there more regularly it'll be interesting to see how Miller fits in when he comes back.
The two full backs looked solid and in pretty decent shape (I like the look of Short, he linked well with JJ in the first half) - I don't know what's happened to Hannigan but for some reason he doesn't fill me with confidence at all.
Moult/Sheridan bossed the midfield but they had so much time on the ball it was criminal.
I like Jordan Hulme. I know there's been a bit of a mixed response on here, he looked lost v Trafford pre-season when I last saw him but it was clear he was being played out of position. He worked hard (particularly in the first half) and has a good understanding with JJ. He'll definitely come good down the middle, and from memory I don't think much of last night's poor finishing could be attributed directly to him (JJ and Moult being two big culprits). With regard to his attitude I don't think that's a bad thing - his Twitter shows he's dead into playing for us and he wears his heart on his sleeve - which given the last couple of years, is very welcome. He'll pick up the odd booking (possibly even red) and get in the opponent's faces, but like I said I don't think that's necessarily bad. At one point in the first half he was screaming at JJ for not giving him the ball - JJ was very sheepishly apologetic!
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Good on him, we need his desire to win, and many more at the same level. It takes this mentality to be successful
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As others say, we dominated the game, should have won by 5 or 6 on the night, but credit to Abbey Hey they battled away, blocked a lot, some good saves, hit the post and overall squandered numerous chances but we got the result. JJ MOM. I was too unsure about Jordan, but he does graft and has improved immensely from the pre season. Still disappointed with Peers.
There goal was a bit flukey, but the defence needs to react quicker and thought Deasy could have done better, but need to see a replay. Thought there keeper was very good and made numerous good saves.
Lets hope this is the start of a cup run to bring more money into the coffers.
Finally, for a 1st qual replay I thought the attendance was decent.
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I doubt I've seen a more one-sided half of football since the second half of the 8-0 win v Hinckley - we should have been out of sight and PP will see that as a major issue.
What a joy to watch JJ tonight - he was MoM by a country mile. Granted he'll have sterner tests (the right back will have seen him in his nightmares last night) but he fared well on the left and liked how he mixed cutting inside with reaching the byline and using his left foot. If PP starts deploying him there more regularly it'll be interesting to see how Miller fits in when he comes back.
The two full backs looked solid and in pretty decent shape (I like the look of Short, he linked well with JJ in the first half) - I don't know what's happened to Hannigan but for some reason he doesn't fill me with confidence at all.
Moult/Sheridan bossed the midfield but they had so much time on the ball it was criminal.
I like Jordan Hulme. I know there's been a bit of a mixed response on here, he looked lost v Trafford pre-season when I last saw him but it was clear he was being played out of position. He worked hard (particularly in the first half) and has a good understanding with JJ. He'll definitely come good down the middle, and from memory I don't think much of last night's poor finishing could be attributed directly to him (JJ and Moult being two big culprits). With regard to his attitude I don't think that's a bad thing - his Twitter shows he's dead into playing for us and he wears his heart on his sleeve - which given the last couple of years, is very welcome. He'll pick up the odd booking (possibly even red) and get in the opponent's faces, but like I said I don't think that's necessarily bad. At one point in the first half he was screaming at JJ for not giving him the ball - JJ was very sheepishly apologetic!
Personally I disagree and think he's one of the poorest elements of this team. The two games against Abbey Hey illustrate that for me. 180 minutes against a Counties team with barely a shot to show for it. He's trying his heart out and I can't fault him for that but I just think he's below average in every area. Rarely wins a header, not fast, not skillful, not a poacher like Reeves. We have absolutely no penetration down the middle and whilst to be fair we're not putting in many good quality crosses, Hulme just offers very little across the board.
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I think the first half showed the difference between him and Peers - in terms of leading the line I think he's a 'strong' communicator(!) who is always working hard to make himself available - which is more than can be said for Peers.
I'm willing to give both players plenty of time as they were both very well regarded at previous clubs, who had seen them a damn sight more regularly (out of interest this can't be said for Amis if you ask Stockport fans...)
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I didn't go last night. My worry about Jordan Hulme is he simply doesn't look like he is going to score. Amis may have been disliked by Stockport fans but I have confidence in him to score at Evostik level - in fact in my opinion we've missed him badly.
JJ blows hot and cold for me. It'll be interesting to see how he stands up to full backs at the likes of Farsley and Workington. I like him and hope it works out.
I have to say, I would be mqjorly surprised if PP doesn't make contact with AH's keeper - he looked pretty decent on Saturday too.
The central midfield by all accounts had plenty of space to play last night, but I still believe that is our area of greatest concern moving forward.
Hoping to make Barwell on Saturday.
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I think the first half showed the difference between him and Peers - in terms of leading the line I think he's a 'strong' communicator(!) who is always working hard to make himself available - which is more than can be said for Peers.
I'm willing to give both players plenty of time as they were both very well regarded at previous clubs, who had seen them a damn sight more regularly (out of interest this can't be said for Amis if you ask Stockport fans...)
To be fair, I don't think Peers is particularly good either! Not seen enough of Amis to have an opinion on him.