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Title: Very quiet after a win
Post by: andrewflynn on August 22, 2017, 10:34:48 PM
Should have been about 5-0, but admittedly we rode our luck last five or so. On to Saturday!
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on August 22, 2017, 10:54:38 PM
Delighted to get a win on the board. I am worried that we've only scored two goals so far, but hopefully we can begin to put this right now the pressure of not winning a game is behind us.

I do wonder if we still need a "proper" striker to propel us up the league, though.

For now we have a win under our belt and that's a good thing. :)
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Toff Apple on August 22, 2017, 10:59:00 PM
We do still need a striker, a good win but not too convincing, needed that though.  Can we practice corners?
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: cheshire cat on August 22, 2017, 11:01:10 PM
We had plenty of corner practice tonight! I can't believe we only scored once. It was one way traffic most of the night.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 22, 2017, 11:01:32 PM
Defensively with Jones & Harrison I think we should be pretty solid as the season goes on.

Two goals in four games tells its own story up top though. I'm hoping tonight will galvanise everyone and give us that confidence boost for Saturday so we shall see. Big weekend ahead as Witton have started very well too.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Alty Bri on August 22, 2017, 11:02:34 PM
The corner count is farcical, for no return. 9 tonight I counted.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: dunhamalty on August 22, 2017, 11:26:36 PM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: GolfRoader on August 23, 2017, 12:03:43 AM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.

What did Thompson do wrong tonight?
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 23, 2017, 12:13:48 AM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.

What did Thompson do wrong tonight?
Not much but he had comparatively little to do if we're honest.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: arnald on August 23, 2017, 12:21:02 AM
I can see alty going  up now ,,, bloody he'll we are nervous tho shud have put the
Game to bed at half time ,but did the job
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Macsporran on August 23, 2017, 12:30:08 AM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.

What did Thompson do wrong tonight?

Nothing...apart from kicking it wildly into touch at least 4 times. His distribution is gash...even from dead balls he shanks it into the crowd. Really not good enough. Their keeper gave him a lesson in kicking tonight. He really is dreadful
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: GolfRoader on August 23, 2017, 12:54:37 AM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.

What did Thompson do wrong tonight?

Nothing...apart from kicking it wildly into touch at least 4 times. His distribution is gash...even from dead balls he shanks it into the crowd. Really not good enough. Their keeper gave him a lesson in kicking tonight. He really is dreadful

You're going to label him dreadful for missing a few kicks? His distribution needs a bit of work but it isn't that bad, their keeper had a few dodgy kicks of his own tonight I seem to recall as well.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Mallorca Alty on August 23, 2017, 01:20:11 AM
Nothing to celebrate yet. We have only won one game. The time to celebrate is when we achieve promotion and return to Conference North.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 23, 2017, 05:18:56 AM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.

What did Thompson do wrong tonight?

Nothing...apart from kicking it wildly into touch at least 4 times. His distribution is gash...even from dead balls he shanks it into the crowd. Really not good enough. Their keeper gave him a lesson in kicking tonight. He really is dreadful

You're going to label him dreadful for missing a few kicks? His distribution needs a bit of work but it isn't that bad, their keeper had a few dodgy kicks of his own tonight I seem to recall as well.

His distribution isn't that bad?? It's f**king woeful!! He's kicked it straight into touch at least 4 times in every match he's played,how can that be anything but poor distribution? Still defo need a keeper.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Stan Hibbert on August 23, 2017, 07:23:12 AM
Good win and deserved over the 90 minutes.

I do believe that taking Poole off towards the end was a big mistake and the reason why we so nearly blew it. PP got out of jail here as had they equalised I'd be blaming him for that substitution.

The keeper's distribution is absolutely gash.

Poole was/is a different class.

CB's did okay but didn't have much to do.

Richman was solid and ran his socks off.

LB looked decidedly dodgy but I think that was due to the defensive formation we opted for.

Credit to Hulme tonight. Didn't stop and could have scored a wonder goal which we would have been talking about for many years to come.

Hancock needs some lessons in finishing but, fair play, he also put a shift in.

The game passed Taylor by once again.

We must have now had pushing 40 corners in 4 games and don't look like ever scoring off one other than the chance we headed over from 8 yards. Come on PP, sort it out.

Overall, a pretty dominating performance other than 10 mins in the 1st half and the late pressure from them so we can't grumble.

This league is cr*p and we've got as much chance as anyone else as winning it so let's keep behind them and see what happens.

Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: dunhamalty on August 23, 2017, 07:37:24 AM
Good result, Poole is a class above. Still shaky at the back, we need a new keeper and an natural striker if we get these we should be up there.

What did Thompson do wrong tonight?

Nothing...apart from kicking it wildly into touch at least 4 times. His distribution is gash...even from dead balls he shanks it into the crowd. Really not good enough. Their keeper gave him a lesson in kicking tonight. He really is dreadful

You're going to label him dreadful for missing a few kicks? His distribution needs a bit of work but it isn't that bad, their keeper had a few dodgy kicks of his own tonight I seem to recall as well.

His distribution isn't that bad?? It's f**king woeful!! He's kicked it straight into touch at least 4 times in every match he's played,how can that be anything but poor distribution? Still defo need a keeper.

Every kick went into touch, giving the ball straight back to the opposition and bring more unwanted pressure. Every time a cross comes we look vulnerable. I have seen 3 out of 4 league games and the opposition keeper has been a lot better than ours! The Nantwich sub keeper looked pretty handy as well.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: distancetraveller on August 23, 2017, 08:45:54 AM
I guess we have been spoilt by having England's No1 between the sticks for so long...
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: dunhamalty on August 23, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
the fact we haven't found a keeper anywhere near the standard of Stu just shows how good he was!
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: ManagementGuru on August 23, 2017, 09:29:56 AM
It wasn't very quiet last night!!  Fans were absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: robininstockport on August 23, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
If Thompson keeps a clean sheet I can tolerate the errant kicking.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: oneedham on August 23, 2017, 10:01:06 AM
Keeper, absolutely terrible distribution and we do need a decent keeper.

Defence class. Jones is a very good signing and Short has impressed me a lot, hardly anything gets passed him.

Midfield a bit slow last night.

Peers was positive on the right but would still like to see him as number 9 due to his pace and finishing.

Hulme had is best game by a country mile and ran his socks off.

Hancock very much in and out of the game and I personally can't wait for Miller to come back.

Richman adopted to right back and is having a good season but we need him centre mid this season.

A win is a win so let's crack on.

Oh, tactically we sit too deep and I know that is because we want to catch teams by countering attacking but you will need quicker players like Johnson and Miller for it be effective.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 23, 2017, 10:40:13 AM
the fact we haven't found a keeper anywhere near the standard of Stu just shows how good he was!
Stu was a Football League standard keeper who were incredibly fortunate not to lose to a bigger club, especially after his trial at Leicester when THEY circulated other clubs.

We're three grades below that level, so we've no chance of getting another keeper anywhere near Stu's standard. For all that, while Thompson is the best we've had since Deasy's  injury problems started, we can do better and should be scouting keepers.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Toff Apple on August 23, 2017, 11:36:51 AM
Thompsons save in the first half was excellent , also it must be noted that the style of play gives the ball to him a lot, his short passing distribution is very good, agreed some did go out when hit long but overall I thought he had a good game
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Nom de plume on August 23, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
Thompsons save in the first half was excellent , also it must be noted that the style of play gives the ball to him a lot, his short passing distribution is very good, agreed some did go out when hit long but overall I thought he had a good game
Agreed. He made three very good saves. And.......how is it that a throw-in to the opposition, usually well into their half, is deemed so bad? How many times do other keepers hoof it down the middle only to have it land on an opposition centre half's head and for the ball to come straight back into our penalty area? Surely that is worse? But it looks like the keeper's hit it long, straight and central. So what? At least Thompson finds the wingers occasionally and sets up an immediate attack.

And whilst this is likely to be an unpopular defence of Thompson, can I also voice my concern that Taylor is not the player others on here seem to think he is. Start every game with him, put his name on the team sheet first? I think not. He is largely a passenger in most games and whilst he may make some decent slick touches they are not in important areas of the field and not in sufficient numbers to warrant his automatic inclusion in the team. IMHO.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on August 23, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
Thompsons save in the first half was excellent , also it must be noted that the style of play gives the ball to him a lot, his short passing distribution is very good, agreed some did go out when hit long but overall I thought he had a good game
Agreed. He made three very good saves. And.......how is it that a throw-in to the opposition, usually well into their half, is deemed so bad? How many times do other keepers hoof it down the middle only to have it land on an opposition centre half's head and for the ball to come straight back into our penalty area? Surely that is worse? But it looks like the keeper's hit it long, straight and central. So what? At least Thompson finds the wingers occasionally and sets up an immediate attack.

And whilst this is likely to be an unpopular defence of Thompson, can I also voice my concern that Taylor is not the player others on here seem to think he is. Start every game with him, put his name on the team sheet first? I think not. He is largely a passenger in most games and whilst he may make some decent slick touches they are not in important areas of the field and not in sufficient numbers to warrant his automatic inclusion in the team. IMHO.

I'll second that. He's good on the ball but does very little off it. We need someone in the centre who's going to make tackles and protect the back four.

We do have a tendency on here to idolise anyone who comes through the youth team.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 23, 2017, 12:50:25 PM
Totally agree re Taylor
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Alty Bri on August 23, 2017, 12:58:21 PM
Taylor is a long way from being our problem in midfield. If the manager sticks with Jake Moult, we really will have a problem. His distribution is a complete nightmare and he provides no protection for the centre backs.
I do actually like Thompson, I think he's a really useful keeper, but unless he works on his kicking it is going to keep on resulting in needless pressure being put on our defenders.
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Jezza on August 23, 2017, 02:14:49 PM
Should have been about 5-0, but admittedly we rode our luck last five or so. On to Saturday!

And it could have been 1-1 or 1-2....two very good penalty shouts turned down for them...

Work to be done...not getting carried away about getting our first 3 points in our 4th match..
Title: Re: Very quiet after a win
Post by: Toff Apple on August 23, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
Thompsons save in the first half was excellent , also it must be noted that the style of play gives the ball to him a lot, his short passing distribution is very good, agreed some did go out when hit long but overall I thought he had a good game
Agreed. He made three very good saves. And.......how is it that a throw-in to the opposition, usually well into their half, is deemed so bad? How many times do other keepers hoof it down the middle only to have it land on an opposition centre half's head and for the ball to come straight back into our penalty area? Surely that is worse? But it looks like the keeper's hit it long, straight and central. So what? At least Thompson finds the wingers occasionally and sets up an immediate attack.

And whilst this is likely to be an unpopular defence of Thompson, can I also voice my concern that Taylor is not the player others on here seem to think he is. Start every game with him, put his name on the team sheet first? I think not. He is largely a passenger in most games and whilst he may make some decent slick touches they are not in important areas of the field and not in sufficient numbers to warrant his automatic inclusion in the team. IMHO.

I'll second that. He's good on the ball but does very little off it. We need someone in the centre who's going to make tackles and protect the back four.

We do have a tendency on here to idolise anyone who comes through the youth team.


I understand this sentiment although I also remember that Duncan Watmore had a few quiet games for us at first until he grew into the league