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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on August 16, 2017, 06:28:24 AM
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https://twitter.com/jonnycrowther/status/897604910426054656
https://twitter.com/jonnycrowther/status/897591827938914310
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Interesting Parkinson didnt think it was a penalty
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Clearly still a bit sore after the mixed reception the team got on Saturday but otherwise he sounds very confident and positive. I'll be interested to see if his words have an effect on Hannigan moving forward.
I thought there was a touch of the Jim Harvey's about Nantwich's boss, calling JJ 'Jordan' Johnson twice, claiming they had the best GK in the league (certainly didn't sound like that going off the commentary) and cutting across the interviewer a lot. Sounded a somewhat confused old boy.
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Arrogant in the extreme and littered with digs at the fans, deary me you got 1 point out of 6 shut up until you have done something
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I was stood behind the penalty box area when the pen was given and I admit the line markings were not very clear JJ was inside the box when he was tripped..
I reckon PP doesn't like criticism, your the manager of Alty pal not Barca
There manager reckons his keeper is the best in the league!!! Wouldn't fancy seeing the worst one.
Nice ground but the lights weren't brilliant.... Hope PP doesn't mind me saying that. ::)
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Must admit I'm very disappointed that he managed to throw a dig at the fans in the interview when there wasn't a need to.
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I was stood behind the penalty box area when the pen was given and I admit the line markings were not very clear JJ was inside the box when he was tripped..
I reckon PP doesn't like criticism, your the manager of Alty pal not Barca
There manager reckons his keeper is the best in the league!!! Wouldn't fancy seeing the worst one.
Nice ground but the lights weren't brilliant.... Hope PP doesn't mind me saying that. ::)
Lights you say? I thought they were glow worms. Seriously I wondered if they were LEDs. They really weren't good enough.
I must have been stood next to you. I was about 10 yards from the 18 yard line and I couldn't see it. More whitewash needed. Definitely a foul though. Whether it was in the box or not I couldn't say.
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Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
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Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
Maybe interview a player or the Assistant,break it up a bit.
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I was stood very close to the penalty incident. I couldn't see the lines either, but it was a trip. Was commenting to a few people 2nd half at how bad the lights were.
Look, we should lay off PP's back and let him manage the side. There was enough in the 2nd half to suggest we'll be just fine.
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I was expecting another real dig at the fans having read some of the comments here before listening, but I didn't think that was a bad interview at all. Fair play to him.
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Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
Maybe interview a player or the Assistant,break it up a bit.
Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
Maybe interview a player or the Assistant,break it up a bit.
Yes. Id love to hear what Hannigan has to say
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Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
Maybe interview a player or the Assistant,break it up a bit.
It definitely needs breaking up a bit, at least with our own internal post match coverage. I don't think its healthy to be hearing from him this often. We never had this with Sinnott, and if we had, I think this forum would have imploded at some point.
I notice Phil has deactivated his Twitter, too.
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I was expecting another real dig at the fans having read some of the comments here before listening, but I didn't think that was a bad interview at all. Fair play to him.
I agree. He does though either need to stop reading the forum/Facebook or understand and accept that these are places for fans to voice their opinions rather than show their support. He seems to resent criticism and that's not a helpful attitude.
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I've no issue with his small reference to the fans (when he said slaughtered this week he meant Nantwich fans and locals but I had to listen twice. He is allowed to disagree with what people have said as we are allowed to disagree with him.
He used the word outstanding for a 3-0 home defeat, for me (and 20 others who have spoke to me/I have spoken to about it) that was not the right word. It wasn't terrible and I wasn't expecting him to slaughter it but it inflamed shell shocked people a little.
Results will come, I like him as a manager and a talker bar Saturday.
I enjoyed the fight shown last night, the support given and the way everyone tried to stay behind them.
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Must admit I'm very disappointed that he managed to throw a dig at the fans in the interview when there wasn't a need to.
Fair point but let him have that one and put it down to a bit of naivety. He's still young and learning.
That aside, he's a good talker. Bit of a stuck record though based on how familiar he assumed the interviewer was with his comments about having all the play, passing it round well but then going one down!
Let's hope that isn't a sign of things to come.
Anyway, I'd take him over Young and Harvey so that'll do me at the moment.
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The real difference is that with PP we have a plan. It might take time but at least there is a plan. I didn't see evidence of a plan from young, doughty, Harvey or sinnott (once in the conference)
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The real difference is that with PP we have a plan. It might take time but at least there is a plan. I didn't see evidence of a plan from young, doughty, Harvey or sinnott (once in the conference)
I'd disagree on Sinnott. I believe he had a plan, but couldn't change it when it was obviously not working.
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The real difference is that with PP we have a plan. It might take time but at least there is a plan. I didn't see evidence of a plan from young, doughty, Harvey or sinnott (once in the conference)
I'd disagree on Sinnott. I believe he had a plan, but couldn't change it when it was obviously not working.
Sinnott was a good manager but his lack of geographical proximity was his downfall.
He was always due to fail as soon as our first crisis arrived (it's still ongoing!) as he couldn't reach out to anyone to quickly turn it around.
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I was stood behind the penalty box area when the pen was given and I admit the line markings were not very clear JJ was inside the box when he was tripped..
Me too and he was well inside the badly-lined area. How PP thought he could see from ground level, 100yds away, that it was outside is baffling. I hope he doesn't drive in the dark- though his sidelights are probably brighter than Nantwich's floodlights.
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I was stood behind the penalty box area when the pen was given and I admit the line markings were not very clear JJ was inside the box when he was tripped..
Me too and he was well inside the badly-lined area. How PP thought he could see from ground level, 100yds away, that it was outside is baffling. I hope he doesn't drive in the dark- though his sidelights are probably brighter than Nantwich's floodlights.
I was just on the right hand side of the goal for the penalty incident and i must admit I thought it was outside the area. Just goes to show how badly the lines were marked.
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I was stood behind the penalty box area when the pen was given and I admit the line markings were not very clear JJ was inside the box when he was tripped..
Me too and he was well inside the badly-lined area. How PP thought he could see from ground level, 100yds away, that it was outside is baffling. I hope he doesn't drive in the dark- though his sidelights are probably brighter than Nantwich's floodlights.
I was just on the right hand side of the goal for the penalty incident and i must admit I thought it was outside the area. Just goes to show how badly the lines were marked.
It all happened in front of me, so much so that I thought I was going to get a face full of football or JJ. I'm just pleased the liner was able to confirm to the ref that it was inside the box, because his view of the almost invisible line, from the touchline, must have been poor.
On a serious note, how is a match allowed to start when the lines are so indiscernible? Presumably the ref could have had the pitch remarked - but then he would have been late home for his supper.
I don't know.........eggs lobbed over the wall, invisible pitch markings, floodlights that you could have had a romantic candlelit dinner for two under........is this EvoSh*t league?
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I do have some sympathy for Parkinson when it comes to all these interviews. He's a young manager just getting started, who isn't used to either managing a side that has supporters who's primary allegiance doesn't lie elsewhere, or managing under such pressure for promotion. Having a microphone shoved in your face post-match and having to answer questions while the emotions are still raw, and particularly when results haven't been good, is incredibly difficult. Top sports stars/managers go through hours of media training to make sure they don't say anything that makes them look stupid straight after a game. Non-league managers don't have that luxury. So it's no surprise if they then goes on to say something ill thought through, or what they say comes across in a way that causes they later embarrassment.
Parkinson either needs some help/training with the media side if we still want him doing these interviews after every Saturday and Tuesday match, or we need to protect him from himself a bit by reducing the amount he does while he is still finding his feet.
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Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
Maybe interview a player or the Assistant,break it up a bit.
Managers at this level should not be interviewed on a game-by-game basis.
Maybe interview a player or the Assistant,break it up a bit.
Yes. Id love to hear what Hannigan has to say
Any such interview would probably have to be curtailed after Hannigan either contracted laryngitis midway through it or kicked the interviewer up in the air.
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I do have some sympathy for Parkinson when it comes to all these interviews. He's a young manager just getting started, who isn't used to either managing a side that has supporters who's primary allegiance doesn't lie elsewhere, or managing under such pressure for promotion. Having a microphone shoved in your face post-match and having to answer questions while the emotions are still raw, and particularly when results haven't been good, is incredibly difficult. Top sports stars/managers go through hours of media training to make sure they don't say anything that makes them look stupid straight after a game. Non-league managers don't have that luxury. So it's no surprise if they then goes on to say something ill thought through, or what they say comes across in a way that causes they later embarrassment.
Parkinson either needs some help/training with the media side if we still want him doing these interviews after every Saturday and Tuesday match, or we need to protect him from himself a bit by reducing the amount he does while he is still finding his feet.
What a well thought out post - 100% spot on
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I do have some sympathy for Parkinson when it comes to all these interviews. He's a young manager just getting started, who isn't used to either managing a side that has supporters who's primary allegiance doesn't lie elsewhere, or managing under such pressure for promotion. Having a microphone shoved in your face post-match and having to answer questions while the emotions are still raw, and particularly when results haven't been good, is incredibly difficult. Top sports stars/managers go through hours of media training to make sure they don't say anything that makes them look stupid straight after a game. Non-league managers don't have that luxury. So it's no surprise if they then goes on to say something ill thought through, or what they say comes across in a way that causes they later embarrassment.
Parkinson either needs some help/training with the media side if we still want him doing these interviews after every Saturday and Tuesday match, or we need to protect him from himself a bit by reducing the amount he does while he is still finding his feet.
Expanded on my earlier point perfectly. +1 mate.
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I do have some sympathy for Parkinson when it comes to all these interviews. He's a young manager just getting started, who isn't used to either managing a side that has supporters who's primary allegiance doesn't lie elsewhere, or managing under such pressure for promotion. Having a microphone shoved in your face post-match and having to answer questions while the emotions are still raw, and particularly when results haven't been good, is incredibly difficult. Top sports stars/managers go through hours of media training to make sure they don't say anything that makes them look stupid straight after a game. Non-league managers don't have that luxury. So it's no surprise if they then goes on to say something ill thought through, or what they say comes across in a way that causes they later embarrassment.
Parkinson either needs some help/training with the media side if we still want him doing these interviews after every Saturday and Tuesday match, or we need to protect him from himself a bit by reducing the amount he does while he is still finding his feet.
Very well said. While Phil Parkinson has managed at a couple of clubs before, at both Alsager and Nantwich, he came in when the clubs were struggling to avoid relegation so expectations and any success was a bonus. He immediately got some positive results so there was no problem and no critical fans.
In contrast, we, as if we didn't know, have been relegated so expectations are high, and emotions still raw, in a lower league.
I think there needs to be a bit of leeway and understanding on both sides, which I am confident there will be.
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Maybe he's been led to believe that the fans are toxic?
After all he's going to be loyal to his employer right now whilst the results aren't backing up his CV.
Ultimately he's a man with a job. Most of us day to day just do what we think the person paying us would expect, I'm always surprised football fans expect players/managers to behave differently to the rest of us.
From what I know from a couple of people a few in our squad are only here for the money. But who cares if they get the job done? You just have to hope they have integrity which is much more subjective.
I think we'll come good and start winning comfortably soon.
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Maybe he's been led to believe that the fans are toxic?
After all he's going to be loyal to his employer right now whilst the results aren't backing up his CV.
Ultimately he's a man with a job. Most of us day to day just do what we think the person paying us would expect, I'm always surprised football fans expect players/managers to behave differently to the rest of us.
From what I know from a couple of people a few in our squad are only here for the money. But who cares if they get the job done? You just have to hope they have integrity which is much more subjective.
I think we'll come good and start winning comfortably soon.
He's a man with 2 jobs, as is virtually every one else who receives a wage out of AFC.
Lots off players will be here for extra £40 a week.
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Why else would they play for us? It's not like they were born in the shadow of the ground. Once they've been here a season or two they might not be as mercenary but initially they'd be mugs not to be looking after themselves first and foremost.
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Why else would they play for us? It's not like they were born in the shadow of the ground. Once they've been here a season or two they might not be as mercenary but initially they'd be mugs not to be looking after themselves first and foremost.
It therefore has to be hoped that they want to succeed in getting us out of this league if only for the lure of more money in National North and beyond.
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You would hope so. It also explains why when it all turns to rat Sh1t like it did last season and the season before people at some point give up and go through the motions.
There's something to be said for performance bonuses.
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I totally agree we do too many interviews
Neil Tolson Neil young and jim Harvey got dragged out weekly . It was pointless
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I totally agree we do too many interviews
Neil Tolson Neil young and jim Harvey got dragged out weekly . It was pointless
I'd quite like a spread of interviewees to be honest. As someone pointed out to me on Tuesday, in the clubcall days it was never just the manager that was interviewed, it was a different player, the assistant, a member of the board etc.
I'd like to see a return to this, although I can't imagine any of the current board (with the exception of possibly one person) would be willing to take on an interview after a game we'd just comprehensively lost.
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I totally agree we do too many interviews
Neil Tolson Neil young and jim Harvey got dragged out weekly . It was pointless
'pointless', the interview or the point talley?
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I totally agree we do too many interviews
Neil Tolson Neil young and jim Harvey got dragged out weekly . It was pointless
I'd quite like a spread of interviewees to be honest. As someone pointed out to me on Tuesday, in the clubcall days it was never just the manager that was interviewed, it was a different player, the assistant, a member of the board etc.
I'd like to see a return to this, although I can't imagine any of the current board (with the exception of possibly one person) would be willing to take on an interview after a game we'd just comprehensively lost.
great idea like it
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I totally agree we do too many interviews
Neil Tolson Neil young and jim Harvey got dragged out weekly . It was pointless
'pointless', the interview or the point talley?
stop exaggerating you know full well we have 1 point now 🤣🤣
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Just listened to this, that is a good interview and he was clearly talking about Nantwich fans slaughtering him and not Alty. Not sure why this upset people?
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Just listened to this, that is a good interview and he was clearly talking about Nantwich fans slaughtering him and not Alty. Not sure why this upset people?
It was the way he said 'apparently I'm not allowed to say that' in reference to him saying we played well in the 3-0 home defeat to Stafford that I took as a little dig at the Alty fans. But like has been said elsewhere he's young and inexperienced so I'm not going to hold it against him too much.
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Just listened to this, that is a good interview and he was clearly talking about Nantwich fans slaughtering him and not Alty. Not sure why this upset people?
It was the way he said 'apparently I'm not allowed to say that' in reference to him saying we played well in the 3-0 home defeat to Stafford that I took as a little dig at the Alty fans. But like has been said elsewhere he's young and inexperienced so I'm not going to hold it against him too much.
I'm probably going to outrage some of you. A good manager SHOULD read his team fan's forum. He can sometimes learn from the alternative views of supporters.
But what he should NEVER do is post on that forum, or have a dig at the fans for their views. It's very rare that we'll all agree on something, but all views should be digested.
I'll get my tin hat.....