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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on August 08, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
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Assuming Disney is unavailable but Short is I'd go :
Thompson
Moult Hannigan Harrison Short
Johnson Taylor Sheridan Peers
Hancock Hulme
Not an ideal starting 11 but with the unavailability of Densmore and Poole for this match it leaves us a tad thin on the ground.
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Deasy
Lynch
Short
Harrison
Hannigan
Sheridan
Johnson
Moult
Amis
Peers
Hancock
4-4-2 with JJ on the right,Hancock on the left. Hulme not done enough to start for me so Amis and Peers up front.
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I'm not sure about Lynch, and would consider trying Taylor at right back.
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Assuming Disney is unavailable but Short is I'd go :
Thompson
Moult Hannigan Harrison Short
Johnson Taylor Sheridan Peers
Hancock Hulme
Not an ideal starting 11 but with the unavailability of Densmore and Poole for this match it leaves us a tad thin on the ground.
I'd go with this team too.
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Assuming Disney is unavailable but Short is I'd go :
Thompson
Moult Hannigan Harrison Short
Johnson Taylor Sheridan Peers
Hancock Hulme
Not an ideal starting 11 but with the unavailability of Densmore and Poole for this match it leaves us a tad thin on the ground.
Moult would get rinsed at RB. With the unavailability of Dens and Disney I would play Richman right back. In centre Mid I would start Taylor and Moult. Up top I would choose Peers over Hulme at present.
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Deasy
Lynch
Harrison
Hannigan
Short
Moult
Sheridan
Taylor
Johnson
Hulme
Peers
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Deasy
Lynch
Harrison
Hannigan
Short
Moult
Sheridan
Taylor
Johnson
Hulme
Peers
Good team too, I think we might do better with a 3 man mid with one bobbing on.
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I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure Hulme can play right back which gives us another option with Dens and Disney unavailable.
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Amis
Hancock Johnston
Taylor Sheridan
Moult
Short Harrison Hannigan Lynch
Deasy
2-0 win.
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Amis
Hancock Johnston
Taylor Sheridan
Moult
Short Harrison Hannigan Lynch
Deasy
2-0 win.
Deasy upfront. Brave move.
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Amis
Hancock Johnston
Taylor Sheridan
Moult
Short Harrison Hannigan Lynch
Deasy
2-0 win.
Deasy upfront. Brave move.
36 seconds to reply. Get a life x
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Amis
Hancock Johnston
Taylor Sheridan
Moult
Short Harrison Hannigan Lynch
Deasy
2-0 win.
Good team for Saturday without Poole and Dens.
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I know our last PSF was far from ideal but I note Stafford could only muster a 1-1 draw at home last night to Lye Town, who play in the equivalent of the Hallmark Security Premier. I guess we'll know soon enough how accurate a guide our pre season should be.
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Could anyone enlighten me on the last time we played Stafford? I think we won 2-0 but not entirely sure on date and don't trust Google on this one. Any odd bits of trivia are helpful to compile a "The Story" graphic which will be a constant feature throughout the season.
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24th March 2008 Altrincham 2 Stafford Rangers 0 - Colin Little 2; Attendance 1135
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24th March 2008 Altrincham 2 Stafford Rangers 0 - Colin Little 2; Attendance 1135
Brill.
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If only Colin were ten years younger............just imagine how many he would score this season :'(
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Looking forward to Saturday. Hopefully a new bright beginning for the Football Club.
Ive even told my bowling club I cant bowl next Tuesday as I am off to Nantwich
Cmon you Alty
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The last time i remember playing stafford we used an orange ball and there were three santas in attendance
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The last time i remember playing stafford we used an orange ball and there were three santas in attendance
Too early for tinsel. ;)
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Stafford will always be "what's that hole in the wall for" in 1991 to me.
A proper club Stafford, must have been quite a shock to go down to a level below this (can you imagine....no don't)
Genuinely no clue as to what will happen on the day. Hope they do some training work on corners, it's been years since I felt it was ever an advantage for us to get one.
Good luck to Phil and the lads.
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As well as you ecky that game will sadly be stuck in my memory for the same reason , i will also add getting stuck at Stafford train station for 3 hrs made a tedious day horrendous.
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24th March 2008 Altrincham 2 Stafford Rangers 0 - Colin Little 2; Attendance 1135
Brill.
It was an Easter Monday fixture.....Stafford were all but relegated, I think.
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Amis
Hancock Johnston
Taylor Sheridan
Moult
Short Harrison Hannigan Lynch
Deasy
2-0 win.
Good team for Saturday without Poole and Dens.
I quite like the look of this team as well - the likes of Hulme, Peers and Richman are decent options off the bench.
Moult should definitely sit out of the three as he just doesn't seem to be moving the ball forward very quickly at the moment.
Would be good to see Hulme with the bit between his teeth and making an impact - but to do this he needs to be played down the middle.
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Any views on the attendance? You'd hope a proper outfit like Stafford would manage to bring about 100. With reasonable away numbers
pushing 1000 id guess with no City or United. I'd be surprised if fewer than 850 certainly.
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Any views on the attendance? You'd hope a proper outfit like Stafford would manage to bring about 100. With reasonable away numbers
pushing 1000 id guess with no City or United. I'd be surprised if fewer than 850 certainly.
I'd be surprised if we got as many as 850 tbh. I reckon about 750.
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Attendance 700
Alty 3 Stafford 1
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Alty 1-2 Stafford
Att: 801
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Alty 0-1 Stafford. Perry.
Refuse to guess the attendance until it's made perfectly clear if non-attending season ticket holders are included or not
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Alty 2 Moult(pen),Amis
Stafford 2 Perry(2)
Att 748
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I simply cannot say what the score will be. If the players play to their potential we will win.
I think the crowd will be 802 due to a few being away, 84 from Stafford and some red and blues.
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Who knows, but possibly a 3-1win, and I certainly wouldn't begrudge Kyle Perry a consolation goal.
Attendance 838, with a good 100 or so from Stafford, and more watching the Sunday game at Stourbridge.
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Thinking about coming tomorrow for the first time in years !!
Is street parking available near the ground ?
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For a team that are the biggest in the league (by a country mile), betting favourites, and with a board vocal about targeting promotion, then playing a side that finished lower mid-table last season at home on the opening day is the perfect start.
It's no guarantee of success of course, but I'm sure it's the sort of start all at the club were hoping for when the fixtures were announced. It won't be terminal if we don't win, but with two much more difficult tests to come in the same week, anything less than a win at home to Stafford tomorrow would be an early setback.
But as Ecky says, play anywhere near our potential and it is a comfortable win. I can understand people's negativity, given what's gone before, but we should have enough to easily out score them and so a 3-1 or 4-1 win seems a good bet to me. Their '1' on the assumption that Deasy starts.
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Thinking about coming tomorrow for the first time in years !!
Is street parking available near the ground ?
Yes Darren, just obviously watch out for peoples drives.
The club also have use of the car park behind what used to be Rileys.
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There is a spooky parallel in our history.
Going back to 1963, Freddie Pye signed a new contract as our manager before the 1963-64 season and we kicked off at home to Stafford Rangers for his first competitive match in charge. We won that game 7-3. We also started in the First Qualifying Round of the FA Cup that year; we were drawn away to Earlestown who had knocked us out 2 years previously. The match was switched to Moss Lane and we won 10-0 before going on to reach the First Round proper for the first time since 1933; drawing with Wrexham of Division 3 at Moss Lane.
Within 2 years we were the best non league team in the country, winning our first league title in 1965-6, beating Rochdale in the FA Cup and establishing the reputation that the succesful clubs of the 70's and 80's built on
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Thinking about coming tomorrow for the first time in years !!
Is street parking available near the ground ?
Yes Darren, just obviously watch out for peoples drives.
The club also have use of the car park behind what used to be Rileys.
Especially on the golf course ;)
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There is a spooky parallel in our history.
Going back to 1963, Freddie Pye signed a new contract as our manager before the 1963-64 season and we kicked off at home to Stafford Rangers for his first competitive match in charge. We won that game 7-3. We also started in the First Qualifying Round of the FA Cup that year; we were drawn away to Earlestown who had knocked us out 2 years previously. The match was switched to Moss Lane and we won 10-0 before going on to reach the First Round proper for the first time since 1933; drawing with Wrexham of Division 3 at Moss Lane.
Within 2 years we were the best non league team in the country, winning our first league title in 1965-6, beating Rochdale in the FA Cup and establishing the reputation that the succesful clubs of the 70's and 80's built on
Wasn't that Wrexham cup match played after the the original date was pp due to fog...
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Yes its that Wrexham match - ababndoned with us 2-1 down rather than postponed.
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Yes its that Wrexham match - ababndoned with us 2-1 down rather than postponed.
I was mascot that day at the tender age of 10 years old
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Alty 4/6
Draw 11/4
Stafford 3/1
An Altrincham manager has not won his first competitive game in charge since 2002 when graham Heathcote took over from Bernard Taylor. That run includes
Ken McKenna
Lee Sinnott
Neil Tolson
Neil Young
The 3 lads as caretakers
Jim Harvey
Matt Doughty
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Alty 4/6
Draw 11/4
Stafford 3/1
An Altrincham manager has not won his first competitive game in charge since 2002 when graham Heathcote took over from Bernard Taylor. That run includes
Ken McKenna
Lee Sinnott
Neil Tolson
Neil Young
The 3 lads as caretakers
Jim Harvey
Matt Doughty
No reason why that run shouldnt be ended tomorrow.
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COME ON ALTY!!!!!!
3-0 to the Robins
Will be listening in intently from the beach in Cartagena
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Drinking during the game tomorrow will be odd. Entirely proportionate though for the level we now play at.
I am cautiously optimistic, expecting 3 points.
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Drinking during the game tomorrow will be odd. Entirely proportionate though for the level we now play at.
I am cautiously optimistic, expecting 3 points.
it's never stopped any one for the last 25 years .. it's just allowed now 🤣🤣
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After last few years I find it hard to get excited about today's game, hopefully just me being pessimistic and we will make a good start.
Come on you Robins, see you later.
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I understand the lack of excitement completely; our season should have started last week. 4 0 today would be my honest prediction. The Nantwich and Matlock games will give a truer reflection of where we are.
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http://altrincham.today/2017/08/12/view-dugout-todays-day-lets-start-bang/
Amis out for six weeks with appendix, Disney out injured.
Winger called Max Harrop has signed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Harrop
Says Densmore will play though??
Short is fit to play as well.
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Densmore must have ditched the wedding.
Bit of a blow with Amiss as he's our 1 and only physical presence up front.
Delighted with Short back though.
Good luck and welcome to Mac Harrop
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Teamsheet probably writes itself now.
Deasy, Densmore, Short, Moult, (any two of Hannigan, Harrison and Lynch), Johnston, Sheridan, Hulme, Hancock, Peers
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Surely Sheridan OR Moult alongside Taylor?
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Deasy
Densmore
Hannigan
Harrison
Short
Taylor
Sheridan
Moult
Johnson
Peers
Hulme
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Amis out for 6 weeks, time to change the fantasy team
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Teamsheet probably writes itself now.
Deasy, Densmore, Short, Moult, (any two of Hannigan, Harrison and Lynch), Johnston, Sheridan, Hulme, Hancock, Peers
Taylor is a must
Back 4 writes itself then I would go with 3 in midfield today. I would go with Richman, Sheridan and Taylor. Have Richman bobbing on, Hancock left, Johnston right with Peers up top.
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Best wishes to Josh Amis for a speedy recovery from his operation. Nor what we or he needed, as we start our campaign.
Adjusted my fantasy team accordingly.
Glad we have short back and probably Dens at LB.
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There's no way Moult won't start
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There's no way Moult won't start
Agreed. He's been named captain which is a massive indication. The only way Taylor will start is if Moult or Sheridan are unavailable or we play a three man midfield.
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Best wishes to Josh Amis for a speedy recovery from his operation. Nor what we or he needed, as we start our campaign.
Adjusted my fantasy team accordingly.
Glad we have short back and probably Dens at LB.
Hopefully RB. He's willing, but imo he's better on the right
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Agreed.I know Moult will start, just what I would like to see.
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Fair enough. I'd rather Thompson started but it won't happen.
Regarding the Taylor/Sheridan selection, not much to choose between them. Just don't think PP will throw Taylor into the opening fixture.
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Fair enough. I'd rather Thompson started but it won't happen.
Regarding the Taylor/Sheridan selection, not much to choose between them. Just don't think PP will throw Taylor into the opening fixture.
From what I have seen Thompson looks no better than Deasy. Decent shot stopper but not great on crosses.
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2 down too much room given again
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So far it's a similar level of performance as last season.
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Need Taylor on for Sheridan and Peers for Hulme. Hulme and Sheridan are not fit.
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:o !
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Another long season awaits. Ossett here we come
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Christ Almighty Title Contenders you have to be joking
Same Old crap GK is required,how i miss Stuart.
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Just stood in the bar being goaded by away supporters, well done to the least professional football club in the world. Football keeps moving on, we don't. A shambles
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Just stood in the bar being goaded by away supporters, well done to the least professional football club in the world. Football keeps moving on, we don't. A shambles
a disgusting set up off the pitch today
No away end open
No segregation
All day drinking in the terraces
An Alty fan assaulted in the bar
We got all we deserved
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Just stood in the bar being goaded by away supporters, well done to the least professional football club in the world. Football keeps moving on, we don't. A shambles
a disgusting set up off the pitch today
No away end open
No segregation
All day drinking in the terraces
An Alty fan assaulted in the bar
We got all we deserved
But Wayne none of this matters, it's immaterial that a once proud football club is dragged into the gutter and is a laughing stock and the object of derision amongst rival teams and that the loyal, hard working and long suffering supporters are treated with utter contempt, so long as the Chairman and his cronies can sip sweet sherry in the boardroom and choose the away teams MOTM
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I'd suggest people boycott the bar until our supporters are treated with some respect. Football has moved on, jovial banter over meat paste sandwiches and a flask went 20 years ago. But then again, we don't catch up with things quickly do we. EVERY game at this club be segregated and should have been for years. How low do we have to go before the penny drops?
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what can i say...new manager, new team but same results...
they broke and scored each time...wasn't happy about the none segregation and stood where i always stand with my young son behind the golf rd goals...i reckon if we had scored it could have been ugly on the terraces
one of their fans couldn't even stand up before the game in the bar and looked liked he'd p155ed himself , welcome to the lower lower leagues
i didn't think we were awful and i hope this is the wake up call we need as we aren't the peacocks we think we are, the problem we have is every game will be a cup final for the other teams
just my opinion though
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We're Penny pinching bastards, we should be making this a hard place to come, not letting people have a f**king great day out. I don't need this after we've just been battered by a bunch 15st runners. Determined to dumb this place down to a family day out. Well I won't be back in this bar until it's a proper football club again, shameful
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What a total disgusting disgrace this club has been turned into
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I walked into the bar at HT and walked straight out again when there were dozens of boozed up away fans being vocal in the queue to the bar. Absolutely no issue with the Stafford fans at all, but let them do it on the away end. When home fans are wanting a pint in the same place (and their team is continuing to be sh*te as well) it was obviously going to lead to confrontations. Plain daft (on and off the field).
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I thought we were good for about 15 minutes, even at a goal down, but after that it was dire.
Is Hulme unfit, or just lazy ?
Moult had a nightmare. Sheridan was off the pace.
If Thompson really is no better than Deasy we are in big trouble.
JJ never gave up (perhaps he got MOM out of sympathy) but their left back had him in his pocket.
PP obviously studied at the Sinnout Academy of Substitutions. Don't understand why Richman was pulled.
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Carry On - Happy clapping
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I never want to see Hulme in an Alty shirt again. He is absolute garbage.
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I thought we were good for about 15 minutes, even at a goal down, but after that it was dire.
Is Hulme unfit, or just lazy ?
Moult had a nightmare. Sheridan was off the pace.
If Thompson really is no better than Deasy we are in big trouble.
JJ never gave up (perhaps he got MOM out of sympathy) but their left back had him in his pocket.
PP obviously studied at the Sinnout Academy of Substitutions. Don't understand why Richman was pulled.
Spot on post. I thought Short was man of the match and then Hancock. Hulme shouldn't be starting, he hasn't done anything to deserve it. Sheridan is overweight. Keep saying that Taylor should be the first name on the sheet for centre mid.
Desperately need a keeper, striker who will get us goals and Miller back flying.
Poole back next game.
Already seen in 15 mins that Harrop won't bring anything to the pitch but always happy to be proven wrong.
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Justifiably booed off the field at full time - Altrincham players and staff should be well aware that fans will not tolerate results or performances of that standard at this level.
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Where to start? So much wrong today. The lack of segregation is a farce. What is the club trying to achieve by this? An extra £100 bar profit, well went west for 3 dibble that we outside when I left.
Thompson can be as poor as Deasy surly? He'll definitely move the ball quicker.
I said beforehand we'll struggle to score goals but I'm staggered at the poor defending all afternoon.
I'm not richmans biggest fan but he was head and shoulders better than Moult and Sheridan
Hulme was wank.
I've no doubt we will create more when Poole plays but who will convert?
Putting Disney in for Densmore won't make much (if any) difference to a self selecting back 3 plus 1
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I walked into the bar at HT and walked straight out again when there were dozens of boozed up away fans being vocal in the queue to the bar. Absolutely no issue with the Stafford fans at all, but let them do it on the away end. When home fans are wanting a pint in the same place (and their team is continuing to be sh*te as well) it was obviously going to lead to confrontations. Plain daft (on and off the field).
Pretty much my thoughts.
We knew full well how many Stafford were bringing, at National level we've segregated game with much lower away attendances. Around 200 Stafford fans on the Golf Road End is shambolic.
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I just can't see we have a centre forward and we have weeks to find one or I can't see where the conversions are going to cone from.
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What the f*~k was that?
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First post for a while
A very disappointed long serving Altr fan tonight.
I saw no pre season at all but listened to all radio robin commentaries and therefore was looking forward to this first game today after great after match summaries?
How wrong could they have been after that toothless performance today.
- why was Ritchman brought off?
-Sheridan looks a few lbs overweight
- we looked physically smaller and bereft of ideas
- Away fans in bar taunting a few ladies and kids???
Ashamed tonight
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didnt adapt to play without poole, the lack of a striker is the biggest concern, and then a winger turns up to be put on despite only training with the team once sound familiar???
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Wasn't there today so no comment on match. However didn't the club setup a ground committee a couple of years ago to try and minimise the nonsense we have with monotonous regularity with segregation etc? Not heard anything about it so assume it was quietly tossed off, just like the once proud traditions of the club have been.
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Wasn't there today so no comment on match. However didn't the club setup a ground committee a couple of years ago to try and minimise the nonsense we have with monotonous regularity with segregation etc? Not heard anything about it so assume it was quietly tossed off, just like the once proud traditions of the club have been.
volunteering and paid staff and set up was also a key action of the strategic review released 6 months ago
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First post for a while
A very disappointed long serving Altr fan tonight.
I saw no pre season at all but listened to all radio robin commentaries and therefore was looking forward to this first game today after great after match summaries?
How wrong could they have been after that toothless performance today.
- why was Ritchman brought off?
-Sheridan looks a few lbs overweight
- we looked physically smaller and bereft of ideas
- Away fans in bar taunting a few ladies and kids???
Ashamed tonight
Richman and Taylor should start for me. We need battlers.
When we get Miller back and have Poole with Johnstone and hopefully a decent proven striker then we will need two battlers behind the 4.
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utterly gutted although the writing was on the wall after last saturday .
it is not rocket science if a team are bringing a couple of hundred fans there will be plenty who are pissed ( just look at our 50 at Rhyl )
we are a mild mannered lot and take most things in good humour something which other teams scummy fans see as a weakness they will always therefore take advantage given no segregation , the day will come if this continues that being goaded and pushed around backfires and the beloved sports hall ends up being smashed up . JUst segregate every game the manager has asked for the ground to be a cauldron dont make the away fans comfortable . they have the moss (king george) . if you want to make money off them set up a plastic bottle bar in the away end for big games . we are letting people walk all over us . leave them a bit of cover if its raining .
uncoordinated and not thought through rant over
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Deasy - completely bereft of confidence (Thompson couldn't possibly be worse)
Densmore - has lost a yard obviously, but did nothing wrong (Stafford not a threat out wide)
Short - one of our few decent players today
Hannigan - you just can't play both footballing centre halves - you need a bruiser (James Jones cough cough)
Harrison - would probably have been more effective as a centre forward today
Sheridan - pretty sure that his favourite colour must be orange, that's how often he found an orange shirt
Moult - another one who is playing with zero confidence. I've always liked Jake, but he looks spent to me
Hancock - did his best, but Jerome Wright will be laughing at the whole not guaranteed a first team place thing
Johnston - actually did his best, but was up against the best player on the pitch (their left back)
Richman - the best of 3 midfielders, but still ineffective, ran round like a headless chicken
Hulme - I pray to God he's not on a contract. A shadow of the player he was
Taylor - will play on Tuesday
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I did not expect a defeat and I didn't expect 2 idiot fans ,
All ready this league has f**kd us over ,,,, the anger is brewing
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Tell us something we don't know.
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Christ, your club is a laughing stock! ;D
if your old enough you'll remember what it was like but like you we'll be back one day . now f**k off
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Our manager is on record saying he wants the ground as a "cauldron." Sorry but we surrendered the terrace that makes it so. Wouldn't have effected the result, but going forward, get it sorted.
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utterly gutted although the writing was on the wall after last saturday .
it is not rocket science if a team are bringing a couple of hundred fans there will be plenty who are pissed ( just look at our 50 at Rhyl )
we are a mild mannered lot and take most things in good humour something which other teams scummy fans see as a weakness they will always therefore take advantage given no segregation , the day will come if this continues that being goaded and pushed around backfires and the beloved sports hall ends up being smashed up . JUst segregate every game the manager has asked for the ground to be a cauldron dont make the away fans comfortable . they have the moss (king george) . if you want to make money off them set up a plastic bottle bar in the away end for big games . we are letting people walk all over us . leave them a bit of cover if its raining .
uncoordinated and not thought through rant over
The Moss is shut for a refurb but I know what you mean. If a few of our lads had been in the bar at ht it could have turned nasty today. Rowley needs to sort his priorities out!!
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For me today was an absolute disgrace. Other than a spell of tippy tappy football early on we offered nothing. This league is about strength, but we seem to be a team of James Lawrie. If Stafford a mid table team we have another relegation battle on our hands
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Two big decisions for Parky to make before Tuesday. Jake Moult is a problem. He's the newly appointed club captain and the first player Parky signed , but anybody watching Alty in the last 18 months will know that he is a shadow of the player he was. He is so unbelievably slow and unathletic in the midfield, and is passing today was awful. He needs dropping in favour of Lawrence Taylor. Tim Deasey, whilst you could argue wasn't at fault today for the goals, is simply not good enough. We desperately need a half decent keeper.
What has Sam Sheridan been doing in the pre-season ? He was blowing out of his arse after 15 minutes today. Totally unimpressed by him.
Whilst Jordan Hulme hasn't been any good since his arrival, it was plainly obvious that he was totally isolated today up front on his own. Playing one up top at home in a league we are meant to be challenging for is pretty poor.
Smart and Johnson were ok
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Oh and that winger that came on, what was all that about ? Nowhere near the standard required.
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Ok .... one swallow doesn't make a summer. One game doesn't make a season....
Having said that.....
Deasey .. not good enough, can't kick, distribution is slow and sh*te, when the ball is played back to him he looks like its a fkn grenade with the pin out...
Mault ... can he not keep it simple ffs. We don't need 60-70 yard passes sprayed about constantly that put the recipient under instant pressure... Jake, your sh*te at pens, stop taking them, should have been hooked for Taylor...
Hannigan not seen a lot of him ( who has) but hasn't impressed me...
Richman should have stayed on the pitch..
JJ deserved man of the match as did Kai Davis there no3...
Collectively the team struggled to do the basics properly...
Stafford are long ball hoofers, we should have been capable of passing through them to win the game...
Overall 3/10...
See you at Nantwich... it needs sorting pdq Mr P...
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I'm looking forward to going there place let's see what they got
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Oh and that winger that came on, what was all that about ? Nowhere near the standard required.
the winger that came on was possibly the worst player I've ever seen play at moss lane
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Disgusted with the club tonight.
We haven't learnt from Chester.
A fan being punched in the head from behind.
Told by a steward moments prior to the incident the club dictated not to segregate.
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Disgusted with the club tonight.
We haven't learnt from Chester.
A fan being punched in the head from behind.
Told by a steward moments prior to the incident the club dictated not to segregate.
good post We Ain't lernt nowt
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Disgusted with the club tonight.
We haven't learnt from Chester.
A fan being punched in the head from behind.
Told by a steward moments prior to the incident the club dictated not to segregate.
I'm not condoning violence in any way,shape or form but I was in the bar at HT and the recipient of the punch can't really have any complaints.
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Disgusted with the club tonight.
We haven't learnt from Chester.
A fan being punched in the head from behind.
Told by a steward moments prior to the incident the club dictated not to segregate.
I'm not condoning violence in any way,shape or form but I was in the bar at HT and the recipient of the punch can't really have any complaints.
Nobody deserves punching. But the fact is, and police agreed with they statements given, that it would be considered an unprovoked attack as the inidividual was moved away and a member of a different group went across.
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The away end turnstiles weren't even open.
I've heard a family with young children this evening describe the bar as toxic at half time.
What good is all the community work if the bar is full of pissed up away fans running a mick
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Don't agree to the earlier post that all games should be segregated (and ofcourse hindsight is a wonderful thing), but when we are playing one of the teams with one of the bigger away supports, and add in the fact it's the first game of the season, surely you would have at least started with segregation. Clearly then after looking at some of their fans the segregation would have been kept.
As for what happened in the bar, idiot fans on both sides and poorly handled by the stewards. Both the Stafford and Alty fan involved in the original incident should have been kicked out the bar if not the ground. Instead it was allowed to fester and escalate into violence. As for the Alty fan invloved, who must be in his fifties and really should know better. Yes he was provoked but to do what he did allegedly to the Stafford fan was pathetic and then to look for a fight after another Stafford fan came over to him was embarrassing.
One final point if we are going to allow drinking on the terraces the stewards need to keep an eye out for any fan who has drunk too much. There was one Alty fan in the 2nd half who was clearly drunk, shouting pathetic obscenities at their keeper and the stewards should have had a word with him
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Christ, your club is a laughing stock! ;D
Thank you for that...who do we make the consultancy fee payable to?
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Christ, your club is a laughing stock! ;D
Thank you for that...who do we make the consultancy fee payable to?
:D
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Christ, your club is a laughing stock! ;D
Thank you for that...who do we make the consultancy fee payable to?
bravo
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Don't agree to the earlier post that all games should be segregated (and ofcourse hindsight is a wonderful thing), but when we are playing one of the teams with one of the bigger away supports, and add in the fact it's the first game of the season, surely you would have at least started with segregation. Clearly then after looking at some of their fans the segregation would have been kept.
As for what happened in the bar, idiot fans on both sides and poorly handled by the stewards. Both the Stafford and Alty fan involved in the original incident should have been kicked out the bar if not the ground. Instead it was allowed to fester and escalate into violence. As for the Alty fan invloved, who must be in his fifties and really should know better. Yes he was provoked but to do what he did allegedly to the Stafford fan was pathetic and then to look for a fight after another Stafford fan came over to him was embarrassing.
One final point if we are going to allow drinking on the terraces the stewards need to keep an eye out for any fan who has drunk too much. There was one Alty fan in the 2nd half who was clearly drunk, shouting pathetic obscenities at their keeper and the stewards should have had a word with him
every game should start segregated then a decison should be made
In terms of hindsight we had it we knew 200 we're planned to come
Who ever decided not to segregate today put the paying customers at risk
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Was a miserable last 70 mins thats for sure but sadly this is going to take some time to sort out. And realistically need a bit more coming and going. (Hopefully in a non neil young type way)
The warning signs were obvious at Trafford last week when we were also very slow moving the ball and too predictable
I think we will look a different team when Poole?? starts - really think he will help sort out some of the problems.
Hulme is a bit of an easy target - we were so slow in possession and gave the ball away so cheaply that it wasnt going to be easy for him. Although he did seem to give up in the 2nd half. I guess the manager was planning for the last month on having Amiss up front so that was really unlucky.
Thought Peers was the best player in the last 2 friendlies so thought he should have started.
I also think Taylor is quality and wonder if we need to build midfield around him. Sheridan very poor for 2 weeks running now.
I dont think we can play any worse so lets see what character they can show now on tuesday.
Man of the match - the groundsman. Pitch has never looked better.
Shame we couldnt string many passes together on it.
In Poole and Taylor we trust!!!!
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Actually, I think we'll be a different team at Nantwich. Taylor and Poole will obviously start and I'd also chuck Dens or Lynch into midfield to provide a bit of physicality. The problem, as others have alluded to, is up front. Hulme ain't our 30-goal striker unfortunately.
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Disgusted with the club tonight.
We haven't learnt from Chester.
A fan being punched in the head from behind.
Told by a steward moments prior to the incident the club dictated not to segregate.
I'm not condoning violence in any way,shape or form but I was in the bar at HT and the recipient of the punch can't really have any complaints.
Nobody deserves punching. But the fact is, and police agreed with they statements given, that it would be considered an unprovoked attack as the inidividual was moved away and a member of a different group went across.
So if you goad the away fans and threaten violence you should be able to complain when one of the away fans you're goading and threatening punches you?
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Actually, I think we'll be a different team at Nantwich. Taylor and Poole will obviously start and I'd also chuck Dens or Lynch into midfield to provide a bit of physicality. The problem, as others have alluded to, is up front. Hulme ain't our 30-goal striker unfortunately.
Has Lynch EVER played midfield?! Also Dens is NOT a midfielder!
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Disgusted with the club tonight.
We haven't learnt from Chester.
A fan being punched in the head from behind.
Told by a steward moments prior to the incident the club dictated not to segregate.
I'm not condoning violence in any way,shape or form but I was in the bar at HT and the recipient of the punch can't really have any complaints.
Nobody deserves punching. But the fact is, and police agreed with they statements given, that it would be considered an unprovoked attack as the inidividual was moved away and a member of a different group went across.
So if you goad the away fans and threaten violence you should be able to complain when one of the away fans you're goading and threatening punches you?
It was a seperate group that crossed the room to attack someone
The stewards should have removed the away fans on, as well as the the home fan.
There was a significant time lapse between the coming together of a single home fan and and a group of away fans and an away fan from a different group jump punching a man.
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I await a response from the club on why they refused to phone the police, or why the chairman didn't want to personally phone the police to avoid any costs.
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My policy when i was Safety officer was to start every game segregated its easy to drop if things going well but harder to implement if you don't start with it.
Whats the point of having someone nominated as a Safety officer if there going to get over ruled by the Chairman.
We will probably get the we didn't have enough turnstiles operators as an excuse.
Stafford fans i noticed at 2 pm pissed in the bar they should have been refused entry.
You can't scrimp on safety especially not this day and age.
No i'm not coming back but thanks for all the texts and messages asking.
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I await a response from the club on why they refused to phone the police, or why the chairman didn't want to personally phone the police to avoid any costs.
You don't encour any costs if you call the police during a match its only when the pre planed.
The slow reaction to calling them maybe due to every made the decision not to segregate and reelised it was
the wrong call even though they were advised to expect up to 150 away fans. I'm sure the council will be on the
phone Monday
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Actually, I think we'll be a different team at Nantwich. Taylor and Poole will obviously start and I'd also chuck Dens or Lynch into midfield to provide a bit of physicality. The problem, as others have alluded to, is up front. Hulme ain't our 30-goal striker unfortunately.
Has Lynch EVER played midfield?! Also Dens is NOT a midfielder!
In fairness Snork Maiden, anyone seeing Moult or Sheridan for the first time today, would not have believed they were midfielders.
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I await a response from the club on why they refused to phone the police, or why the chairman didn't want to personally phone the police to avoid any costs.
You don't encour any costs if you call the police during a match its only when the pre planed.
The slow reaction to calling them maybe due to every made the decision not to segregate and reelised it was
the wrong call even though they were advised to expect up to 150 away fans. I'm sure the council will be on the
phone Monday
Thanks for clarifying Darren, I had hoped there may be a explanation even if it was a cost one.
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I await a response from the club on why they refused to phone the police, or why the chairman didn't want to personally phone the police to avoid any costs.
You'll still be waiting at Christmas. Another disgraceful episode and it's only the first game.
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Even Rocky Robin looked a disgrace today no shirt or shorts on he had gone commando...
Don't even no who was init as i was stood talking to the person who normally does it
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Couple of quick points, an earlier post said that it was a Stafford fan from a different group who came across to confront the Alty fan who had caused the first incident. Apparently he was the brother of the Stafford fan involved in this first incident, so there was a connection.
Surely action must be taken against the Alty fan for what he did.
Also the police were called and there was a police presence at the Hale End after the game.
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Was a miserable last 70 mins thats for sure but sadly this is going to take some time to sort out. And realistically need a bit more coming and going. (Hopefully in a non neil young type way)
The warning signs were obvious at Trafford last week when we were also very slow moving the ball and too predictable
I think we will look a different team when Poole?? starts - really think he will help sort out some of the problems.
Hulme is a bit of an easy target - we were so slow in possession and gave the ball away so cheaply that it wasnt going to be easy for him. Although he did seem to give up in the 2nd half. I guess the manager was planning for the last month on having Amiss up front so that was really unlucky.
Thought Peers was the best player in the last 2 friendlies so thought he should have started.
I also think Taylor is quality and wonder if we need to build midfield around him. Sheridan very poor for 2 weeks running now.
I dont think we can play any worse so lets see what character they can show now on tuesday.
Man of the match - the groundsman. Pitch has never looked better.
Shame we couldnt string many passes together on it.
In Poole and Taylor we trust!!!!
Another good post.
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Actually, I think we'll be a different team at Nantwich. Taylor and Poole will obviously start and I'd also chuck Dens or Lynch into midfield to provide a bit of physicality. The problem, as others have alluded to, is up front. Hulme ain't our 30-goal striker unfortunately.
Why chuck Dens or Lynch into midfield when Richman didn't do a foot wrong today and won headers? I know he isn't a gifted footballer but just play him and Taylor with Johnston, Poole, Peers and Hancock ahead and see how we do. That simple until Miller comes back and we sign a proven striker.
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My policy when i was Safety officer was to start every game segregated its easy to drop if things going well but harder to implement if you don't start with it.
Whats the point of having someone nominated as a Safety officer if there going to get over ruled by the Chairman.
We will probably get the we didn't have enough turnstiles operators as an excuse.
Stafford fans i noticed at 2 pm pissed in the bar they should have been refused entry.
You can't scrimp on safety especially not this day and age.
No i'm not coming back but thanks for all the texts and messages asking.
Well said
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My policy when i was Safety officer was to start every game segregated its easy to drop if things going well but harder to implement if you don't start with it.
Whats the point of having someone nominated as a Safety officer if there going to get over ruled by the Chairman.
We will probably get the we didn't have enough turnstiles operators as an excuse.
Stafford fans i noticed at 2 pm pissed in the bar they should have been refused entry.
You can't scrimp on safety especially not this day and age.
No i'm not coming back but thanks for all the texts and messages asking.
Well said
This topic also needs sorting, just have it segregated all the time and have all the needed facilities that end. I remember getting drenched at Southport away, still a great away day. If that means a plastic beer bootle bar then just do it, as it will kick off sooner or later because Alty fans have had enough. I've never slagged of Rowley on here but he needs to sort this out before someone gets hurt because some Stafford fans were a disgrace before a ball was kicked today.
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What did the Alty fan do to start the incident?
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It's actually amazing that we have hit a new low
I didn't think it was possible
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Only Positive from today is we are not bottom of the League.
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It's actually amazing that we have hit a new low
I didn't think it was possible
Just wait for "even lower than the last unimaginable low" on Tuesday night.
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Really very nervous about tuesday now, this could either be righted or go badly wrong very quickly
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I just hope we don't sign ten players in a month on loan or it could be last season part two
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Who ever decided not to segregate today put the paying customers at risk
Whoever decided that it is a good idea to sell alcohol after kick-off is putting the paying customers at risk. It also flies in the face of the "family" culture we are supposed to be cultivating.
Very shabby, for the sake of a few quid.
I'm just glad I haven't bought a season ticket this year.
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Who ever decided not to segregate today put the paying customers at risk
Whoever decided that it is a good idea to sell alcohol after kick-off is putting the paying customers at risk. It also flies in the face of the "family" culture we are supposed to be cultivating.
Very shabby, for the sake of a few quid.
I'm just glad I haven't bought a season ticket this year.
I get your point but you could have drunk all game Prior to this decison in the bar anyway now it's just you can do it on the terraces as well . Which let's be honest a number of people used to do anyway.
The thing that made it worse was adding the drinking to no away end being opened and fans allowed to mingle around the ground and in the bar . A dangerous cocktail ... no pun intended
We are soft niave and poorly organised
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Stafford fans were permitted by their club to drink on the coaches. A Stafford fan was found collapsed in the cubicle in the bar toilets
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Can't believe I came back up from London for that.
Actually thought we started well and even at 0-1 looked the better side, after that second went in though Stafford strolled it. Games thick and fast so Parky must find a way otherwise we'll be floundering.
As for the off the pitch, the club unfortunately with the new booze rules has learnt a harsh lesson. I'd be surprised other than Witton and Stalybridge if anyone bought that many again this season but think from now on even at this level we'll have to err on the side of caution with segregation. Bottle bar at away end for bigger games perhaps.
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Can't believe I came back up from London for that.
Actually thought we started well and even at 0-1 looked the better side, after that second went in though Stafford strolled it. Games thick and fast so Parky must find a way otherwise we'll be floundering.
As for the off the pitch, the club unfortunately with the new booze rules has learnt a harsh lesson. I'd be surprised other than Witton and Stalybridge if anyone bought that many again this season but think from now on even at this level we'll have to err on the side of caution with segregation. Bottle bar at away end for bigger games perhaps.
The away snack van was selling cans of alcohol at £2 talking to a couple of Stafford fans they are allowed drink on the terrances till 3pm and siad not many clubs in this league allow it at all.
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The only thing that could have made yesterday worse would be if the manager said that we played really well and created 7-8 chances. And now he has.
I like Phil Parkinson but I beg him please please please don't go down the route that Doughty went down in telling people that sh*t/moderate things are really good.
Tried to collect my thoughts after yesterday before posting.
Firstly I'd like to congratulate Stafford on a superb away performance, nullify the opposition then pick them off. Executed brilliantly.
In my opnion, we were not absymal yesterday but we had a of the ball and did nothing with it. 7-8 chances? I saw three pea rollers and a couple of long shots where the player leaned back at 45 degrees before shooting.
A 3-0 home defeat to an average side can't be anything other than poor can it?
We've dodged a bullet many times with our stewarding. Some Stafford fans were a disgrace today, completely classless, however why were they not asked to leave? You can't be singing and intimidating in any pub can you without being asked to drink up and go on your way. If I went into Staffords bar signing "you're going down like a f**kin' lead balloon" over and over again I'd expect to be ejected or smacked. Just enjoy your day...
Why are people alllowed in who cannot stand up coming off a coach? No stewards outside again but 3 on the inside of the turnstiles? How many times does it have to be said? Some should not have even been let in.
A truly horrible day.
If they had edged it 2-1 then fair enough, these things happen and this is Alty we are watching but a 3-0 home defeat is nothing but poor. I back him to sort it but the first thing he has to do is be real about it.
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Even Rocky Robin looked a disgrace today no shirt or shorts on he had gone commando...
Do't even no who was init as i was stood talking to the person who normally does it
On my shortlist at this early stage for post of the season 😃
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I don't care if it's 2 from barwell or 200 from Stafford, the away end has toilets, a snack bar and sells alcohol, that's where they should stay. The manager asks for the ground to become a cauldron and we give the run of the ground and bar to away supporters?? We are here to get out of this league at the earliest opportunity, not give clubs we owe nothing to a great day out. I don't care if it upsets Keith from mickleover if he can't get a view from all sides. It's a competition not tea rooms, toughen up or we are here for years.Who knows, maybe that's what people want in reality. Winners are ruthless, simple.
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The only thing that could have made yesterday worse would be if the manager said that we played really well and created 7-8 chances. And now he has.
I like Phil Parkinson but I beg him please please please don't go down the route that Doughty went down in telling people that sh*t/moderate things are really good.
Tried to collect my thoughts after yesterday before posting.
Firstly I'd like to congratulate Stafford on a superb away performance, nullify the opposition then pick them off. Executed brilliantly.
In my opnion, we were not absymal yesterday but we had a of the ball and did nothing with it. 7-8 chances? I saw three pea rollers and a couple of long shots where the player leaned back at 45 degrees before shooting.
A 3-0 home defeat to an average side can't be anything other than poor can it?
We've dodged a bullet many times with our stewarding. Some Stafford fans were a disgrace today, completely classless, however why were they not asked to leave? You can't be singing and intimidating in any pub can you without being asked to drink up and go on your way. If I went into Staffords bar signing "you're going down like a f**kin' lead balloon" over and over again I'd expect to be ejected or smacked. Just enjoy your day...
Why are people alllowed in who cannot stand up coming off a coach? No stewards outside again but 3 on the inside of the turnstiles? How many times does it have to be said? Some should not have even been let in.
A truly horrible day.
If they had edged it 2-1 then fair enough, these things happen and this is Alty we are watching but a 3-0 home defeat is nothing but poor. I back him to sort it but the first thing he has to do is be real about it.
Well said Mark. Completely agree. Nothing more frustrating than dressing that up as anything but poor. I'd have more respect for him if he said said that rather than how well we played and how we kept the ball and how we were missing key players. Make Moss Lane horrible to play at? I'm sorry but that starts at the very top with the chairman and what was allowed to happen yesterday. Stafford were given the run of the ground and the team did the business in the pitch. Bet they jumped on the coach home delighted. I'm no big billy bollocks but we've got to get this right and get it right PDQ.. starting with 6 points from the next two games.
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The only thing that could have made yesterday worse would be if the manager said that we played really well and created 7-8 chances. And now he has.
I like Phil Parkinson but I beg him please please please don't go down the route that Doughty went down in telling people that sh*t/moderate things are really good.
Tried to collect my thoughts after yesterday before posting.
Firstly I'd like to congratulate Stafford on a superb away performance, nullify the opposition then pick them off. Executed brilliantly.
In my opnion, we were not absymal yesterday but we had a of the ball and did nothing with it. 7-8 chances? I saw three pea rollers and a couple of long shots where the player leaned back at 45 degrees before shooting.
A 3-0 home defeat to an average side can't be anything other than poor can it?
We've dodged a bullet many times with our stewarding. Some Stafford fans were a disgrace today, completely classless, however why were they not asked to leave? You can't be singing and intimidating in any pub can you without being asked to drink up and go on your way. If I went into Staffords bar signing "you're going down like a f**kin' lead balloon" over and over again I'd expect to be ejected or smacked. Just enjoy your day...
Why are people alllowed in who cannot stand up coming off a coach? No stewards outside again but 3 on the inside of the turnstiles? How many times does it have to be said? Some should not have even been let in.
A truly horrible day.
If they had edged it 2-1 then fair enough, these things happen and this is Alty we are watching but a 3-0 home defeat is nothing but poor. I back him to sort it but the first thing he has to do is be real about it.
Spot on.
A simple apology, a "losing 3-0 at home at this level isn't good enough for a club the size of Alty" type statement, and a promise to put things right on Tuesday, would have been more advisable than a Buzz-esque defence of how 'dominant' we had to be to get beat 3-0...
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I don't care if it's 2 from barwell or 200 from Stafford, the away end has toilets, a snack bar and sells alcohol, that's where they should stay. The manager asks for the ground to become a cauldron and we give the run of the ground and bar to away supporters?? We are here to get out of this league at the earliest opportunity, not give clubs we owe nothing to a great day out. I don't care if it upsets Keith from mickleover if he can't get a view from all sides. It's a competition not tea rooms, toughen up or we are here for years.Who knows, maybe that's what people want in reality. Winners are ruthless, simple.
This...excellent post, says it all.
One of the ironic things yesterday was the sight of our Chairman, resplendent in Club blazer, on the scene in the aftermath of the incident in the Club. Sad thing is, he is so thick skinned I don't suppose it's crossed his mind that he is responsible for the brawling in the Hall which he likes to portray as a pillar of the community and family values.
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PP thinks we dominated for an hour. He must be working at 15 seconds to the minute.
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We're below this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RN3edcjJOA&sns=em
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What was the attendance? Read on the Evostic site it was 811, seem like a four figure crowd to me.
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Even Rocky Robin looked a disgrace today no shirt or shorts on he had gone commando...
Don't even no who was init as i was stood talking to the person who normally does it
Never been a larger case of bigger fish to fry but are you saying that someone walked round the ground yesterday in the suit with no shirt or shorts on it?
We know it doesn't really look like a robin but at least with an Alty kit on it's kind of an Alty footballing mascot.
I've always enjoyed the gag about why does Bungle off Rainbow walk around the house naked all day and then put pyjama bottoms on for bed. This takes it to a new level.
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
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Even Rocky Robin looked a disgrace today no shirt or shorts on he had gone commando...
Don't even no who was init as i was stood talking to the person who normally does it
Never been a larger case of bigger fish to fry but are you saying that someone walked round the ground yesterday in the suit with no shirt or shorts on it?
We know it doesn't really look like a robin but at least with an Alty kit on it's kind of an Alty footballing mascot.
I've always enjoyed the gag about why does Bungle off Rainbow walk around the house naked all day and then put pyjama bottoms on for bed. This takes it to a new level.
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
If you go on my Twitter account @AltyDaz i posted a picture yesterday maybe one of you clever computer nerds can post it on here ;D
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Thanks, I feel slightly more comfortable now, if not any less depressed.
See you at Nantwich, I bet Parky is made up that is the next game.
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We're below this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RN3edcjJOA&sns=em
Lord have mercy
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WOW! What a weekend we have had here at the club. We've exceeded our previous numbers in the past and proved how varied Altrincham Football Club and Community Sports Hall can be.
By the time we close today, we will have been officially open for 58 hours, since 6am on Friday morning. During this time, we have seen around 1500 people come through our doors. To give you an idea of attendance figures, that's roughly:
Fitness classes 20+
Alty Mini Kickers 60+
Holiday Club 20+
Dance Event 380+
Home Match 800+
Mock Exams 110+
Corporate Event 50+
Private Party 50+
A massive well done to the team of staff and volunteers here behind the scenes and we are grateful to all the customers and fans for their continued support. #loyALTY
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WOW! What a weekend we have had here at the club. We've exceeded our previous numbers in the past and proved how varied Altrincham Football Club and Community Sports Hall can be.
By the time we close today, we will have been officially open for 58 hours, since 6am on Friday morning. During this time, we have seen around 1500 people come through our doors. To give you an idea of attendance figures, that's roughly:
Fitness classes 20+
Alty Mini Kickers 60+
Holiday Club 20+
Dance Event 380+
Home Match 800+
Mock Exams 110+
Corporate Event 50+
Private Party 50+
A massive well done to the team of staff and volunteers here behind the scenes and we are grateful to all the customers and fans for their continued support. #loyALTY
Getting beat 3 nil at home and the reserves losing 6 nil we need more amazing weekends like this.
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PP thinks we dominated for an hour. He must be working at 15 seconds to the minute.
Yeah 2-00-3-00 pm
If wer'e sh*te say so don't bullsh*t the fans with other sh*tty stats. The only stat that EVER matters is the goals for and goals against stat
We need to be at them from the off on Tuesday night
Get another penalty taker
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WOW! What a weekend we have had here at the club. We've exceeded our previous numbers in the past and proved how varied Altrincham Football Club and Community Sports Hall can be.
By the time we close today, we will have been officially open for 58 hours, since 6am on Friday morning. During this time, we have seen around 1500 people come through our doors. To give you an idea of attendance figures, that's roughly:
Fitness classes 20+
Alty Mini Kickers 60+
Holiday Club 20+
Dance Event 380+
Home Match 800+
Mock Exams 110+
Corporate Event 50+
Private Party 50+
A massive well done to the team of staff and volunteers here behind the scenes and we are grateful to all the customers and fans for their continued support. #loyALTY
That just shows how little the football team matters.
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WOW! What a weekend we have had here at the club. We've exceeded our previous numbers in the past and proved how varied Altrincham Football Club and Community Sports Hall can be.
By the time we close today, we will have been officially open for 58 hours, since 6am on Friday morning. During this time, we have seen around 1500 people come through our doors. To give you an idea of attendance figures, that's roughly:
Fitness classes 20+
Alty Mini Kickers 60+
Holiday Club 20+
Dance Event 380+
Home Match 800+
Mock Exams 110+
Corporate Event 50+
Private Party 50+
A massive well done to the team of staff and volunteers here behind the scenes and we are grateful to all the customers and fans for their continued support. #loyALTY
That just shows how little the football team matters.
If the community sports hall twitter rather than the clubs though to make it clear.
90% of it is great but you just woudn't put that out, especially after the worst footballing day (forget on the pitch) there has ever been in there.
It's a total lack of perception but what's new?
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What makes it worse is that one of our fans got blocked by that Twitter account for daring to question the view that it was an "amazing weekend".
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Stafford fan in peace !
Reading your forum it seems you have a number of gripes following the game on Saturday as an outsider to your pain but a fan who went through similar ( or worse as we then got relegated out of this league) I thought Id share some thoughts now the dust is settling.
First you didn't play badly and restricted us to just a handful of chances which we amazingly took , that wont happen that frequently in this league and most defences in this league are not as mean as ours. Our Manager likes to build from premise of not conceding which frankly can lead to some pretty dire games. develop a cutting edge and you will be near the top Parky is a good manager at this level and will have you firing soon if you give him your support - if you don't you will regret it the league below is much worse !
Secondly some of you are talking about segregation following the fact a number of our fans had too much to drink; understandable but I am sure there would be cost implications and money is going to be tight as Saturdays crowd will end up being one of your highest of the year. Rather than bringing in needless segregation for every match you need to review selling drink through the game and allowing it on the terraces something I hadn't witnessed for years. Also it wasn't drinking on the coach it was fact many fans had picked this game for a pub crawl and came up by train and really shouldn't have been allowed in the ground or served in your club.
Try and enjoy your season there are some lovely grounds to visit and most of the away fans you'll meet will be friendly and helpful don't let a handful of drunken idiots blinker your thoughts and don't despair if Nantwich beat you tomorrow I know a Number of people there really want to put one over on Parky . its a long season
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Thanks Stafford fan.....we are sinking faster than the titanic.....our once professional image being sabotaged by a chairman who I swear wants to bring back the grass bank terracing......
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This was my first ever Alty match and I think the comments on here are a pretty good reflection of my own experience as a newcomer. I was a bit mixed in my opinion about no segregation - first heard about it when I arrived at the ground and I thought it could be a positive thing, but after hearing some of the abuse as fans moved around the ground, and about the incident(s) in the bar, it doesn't seem the way to go for when there are larger groups of away fans. Maybe too early to comment on that, and you always expect one or two idiots shouting rubbish, but I wouldn't be comfortable bringing family and kids to that kind of environment if it was a regular thing. From the comments though it was a very unusual situation and I could see some other fans weren't comfortable with it either, so I'm not expecting to see that again. The other fans and staff I met were great and it seems a brilliant club with a good feel to it, so hopefully the club find a way that works for everyone. I'll deffo be a regular now so hasn't put me off.
As for the team, I'm likely more optimistic about the coming season than most as I haven't had to suffer the past couple of seasons. Take the following with a massive pinch of salt considering I knew bugger all about the team before I showed up (and likely still do):
GK - Honestly don't see what Deasy could've done to stop those goals and thought he was the victim of poor collective defending. Thompson did look sharper in warm up but that's hardly a basis for judgement so I'll hold fire on this front, though I realise most are crying out for a better keeper. Communication across the back generally is likely the main thing to work on for the quickest gains if they can't get anyone better in.
FB - Densmore/Short - Both looked solid and put in a proper shift, but not a lot of overlap with the wingers which left us a bit one-dimensional. Easily good enough for this level though. There's Disney to come in yet as well so should have decent options here, though would be useful to have another option at LB.
CB - Not a lot to judge on as they had very few attacks to deal with. Hannigan seemed the more assured of the two. Harrison looks a bit uncertain when on the backfoot and much happier bringing the ball out - felt like him and Moulty were better suited to each other's positions during that match. No idea how good Lynch is but a stronger presence at the back is much needed.
CM - I think with the lack of options here the obvious choice seems to be Richman and Taylor as a 2-man midfield (as others have suggested too), rather than Moult in behind 2 others. Sheridan was well off the pace and didn't seem fit to play tbh. Richman looked easily the best of the bunch and Taylor also looked sharp when he came on. Moult looked excellent in the air but otherwise wasteful with his passing and off the pace - not suited to CM on that performance. Would like to see him at CB if he plays.
Wings - JJ and Hancock both look a very useful threat but no use if they are given no options in the centre to pass to. Also seemed to be instructed to stay wide and not cut in, which didn't help as they were always isolated. They could play a big role this season once the team settles and works with them. Too early to judge Harrop for me.
FW - We have quite a few options so would play 2 of Miller, Poole and Amis, providing at least 2 of them are fit. Too early to judge Hulme as I suspect he wasn't fully fit either, though Peers looked an upgrade.
Cause for optimism anyway (for me at least!) and despite the result, and the bother, I'm glad I turned up on Saturday.
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This was my first ever Alty match and I think the comments on here are a pretty good reflection of my own experience as a newcomer. I was a bit mixed in my opinion about no segregation - first heard about it when I arrived at the ground and I thought it could be a positive thing, but after hearing some of the abuse as fans moved around the ground, and about the incident(s) in the bar, it doesn't seem the way to go for when there are larger groups of away fans. Maybe too early to comment on that, and you always expect one or two idiots shouting rubbish, but I wouldn't be comfortable bringing family and kids to that kind of environment if it was a regular thing. From the comments though it was a very unusual situation and I could see some other fans weren't comfortable with it either, so I'm not expecting to see that again. The other fans and staff I met were great and it seems a brilliant club with a good feel to it, so hopefully the club find a way that works for everyone. I'll deffo be a regular now so hasn't put me off.
As for the team, I'm likely more optimistic about the coming season than most as I haven't had to suffer the past couple of seasons. Take the following with a massive pinch of salt considering I knew bugger all about the team before I showed up (and likely still do):
GK - Honestly don't see what Deasy could've done to stop those goals and thought he was the victim of poor collective defending. Thompson did look sharper in warm up but that's hardly a basis for judgement so I'll hold fire on this front, though I realise most are crying out for a better keeper. Communication across the back generally is likely the main thing to work on for the quickest gains if they can't get anyone better in.
FB - Densmore/Short - Both looked solid and put in a proper shift, but not a lot of overlap with the wingers which left us a bit one-dimensional. Easily good enough for this level though. There's Disney to come in yet as well so should have decent options here, though would be useful to have another option at LB.
CB - Not a lot to judge on as they had very few attacks to deal with. Hannigan seemed the more assured of the two. Harrison looks a bit uncertain when on the backfoot and much happier bringing the ball out - felt like him and Moulty were better suited to each other's positions during that match. No idea how good Lynch is but a stronger presence at the back is much needed.
CM - I think with the lack of options here the obvious choice seems to be Richman and Taylor as a 2-man midfield (as others have suggested too), rather than Moult in behind 2 others. Sheridan was well off the pace and didn't seem fit to play tbh. Richman looked easily the best of the bunch and Taylor also looked sharp when he came on. Moult looked excellent in the air but otherwise wasteful with his passing and off the pace - not suited to CM on that performance. Would like to see him at CB if he plays.
Wings - JJ and Hancock both look a very useful threat but no use if they are given no options in the centre to pass to. Also seemed to be instructed to stay wide and not cut in, which didn't help as they were always isolated. They could play a big role this season once the team settles and works with them. Too early to judge Harrop for me.
FW - We have quite a few options so would play 2 of Miller, Poole and Amis, providing at least 2 of them are fit. Too early to judge Hulme as I suspect he wasn't fully fit either, though Peers looked an upgrade.
Cause for optimism anyway (for me at least!) and despite the result, and the bother, I'm glad I turned up on Saturday.
Some very good points in there and welcome to the forum.
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This was my first ever Alty match and I think the comments on here are a pretty good reflection of my own experience as a newcomer. I was a bit mixed in my opinion about no segregation - first heard about it when I arrived at the ground and I thought it could be a positive thing, but after hearing some of the abuse as fans moved around the ground, and about the incident(s) in the bar, it doesn't seem the way to go for when there are larger groups of away fans. Maybe too early to comment on that, and you always expect one or two idiots shouting rubbish, but I wouldn't be comfortable bringing family and kids to that kind of environment if it was a regular thing. From the comments though it was a very unusual situation and I could see some other fans weren't comfortable with it either, so I'm not expecting to see that again. The other fans and staff I met were great and it seems a brilliant club with a good feel to it, so hopefully the club find a way that works for everyone. I'll deffo be a regular now so hasn't put me off.
As for the team, I'm likely more optimistic about the coming season than most as I haven't had to suffer the past couple of seasons. Take the following with a massive pinch of salt considering I knew bugger all about the team before I showed up (and likely still do):
GK - Honestly don't see what Deasy could've done to stop those goals and thought he was the victim of poor collective defending. Thompson did look sharper in warm up but that's hardly a basis for judgement so I'll hold fire on this front, though I realise most are crying out for a better keeper. Communication across the back generally is likely the main thing to work on for the quickest gains if they can't get anyone better in.
FB - Densmore/Short - Both looked solid and put in a proper shift, but not a lot of overlap with the wingers which left us a bit one-dimensional. Easily good enough for this level though. There's Disney to come in yet as well so should have decent options here, though would be useful to have another option at LB.
CB - Not a lot to judge on as they had very few attacks to deal with. Hannigan seemed the more assured of the two. Harrison looks a bit uncertain when on the backfoot and much happier bringing the ball out - felt like him and Moulty were better suited to each other's positions during that match. No idea how good Lynch is but a stronger presence at the back is much needed.
CM - I think with the lack of options here the obvious choice seems to be Richman and Taylor as a 2-man midfield (as others have suggested too), rather than Moult in behind 2 others. Sheridan was well off the pace and didn't seem fit to play tbh. Richman looked easily the best of the bunch and Taylor also looked sharp when he came on. Moult looked excellent in the air but otherwise wasteful with his passing and off the pace - not suited to CM on that performance. Would like to see him at CB if he plays.
Wings - JJ and Hancock both look a very useful threat but no use if they are given no options in the centre to pass to. Also seemed to be instructed to stay wide and not cut in, which didn't help as they were always isolated. They could play a big role this season once the team settles and works with them. Too early to judge Harrop for me.
FW - We have quite a few options so would play 2 of Miller, Poole and Amis, providing at least 2 of them are fit. Too early to judge Hulme as I suspect he wasn't fully fit either, though Peers looked an upgrade.
Cause for optimism anyway (for me at least!) and despite the result, and the bother, I'm glad I turned up on Saturday.
Some very good points in there and welcome to the forum.
I would second this
The point on the family peice is interesting .we pride ourselves on being a community club. It's safe to say I'm glad I didn't bring my 9 year old daughter Saturday . It was not an acceptable environment
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It should have been segregated but even more than that there will need to be an action plan in place for if anyone ever behaves like that in the hall again. Just like in any pub.
They should have been asked to drink up and leave. They weren't and now it's all about what will happen to stop it happening again and what to do if it does.
And I have said, I know we do not have the most stewards in the world but there should be one outside each turnstile watching who comes in, not inside it when they are in already.
I'm sure lessons will be learned but let's have a bit of balance, we have handled some very big clubs here without issue so it does not happen every week.
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The club were told to segregate on Thursday by head steward why they did not listen I don't know the stewards who were in the bar did a good job considering they are not sis trained and by rights should not have been in the bar anyone who would like to join the team are more than welcome..the stafford game was my last as a steward at moss lane . It's not worth taking a punch then having to take time of work and not get paid. . The club have a good stewarding team but do not seem to be appreciated by the club and sometimes by the fans. Remember if you don't have stewards the game can't be played look forward to seeing you all on the terraces
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The club were told to segregate on Thursday by head steward why they did not listen I don't know the stewards who were in the bar did a good job considering they are not sis trained and by rights should not have been in the bar anyone who would like to join the team are more than welcome..the stafford game was my last as a steward at moss lane . It's not worth taking a punch then having to take time of work and not get paid. . The club have a good stewarding team but do not seem to be appreciated by the club and sometimes by the fans. Remember if you don't have stewards the game can't be played look forward to seeing you all on the terraces
This is the tragedy of our situation in one post
The head steward is being told how to do there job
Is it little wonder we can't attract stewards ?
If your opinion is irrelevant why would you bother
I'm sorry to hear you won't be back after being assaulted on the back of all this
You have given great service to us as a volunteer
Hope you are on the mend
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Do the police not have a say it ?
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Do the police not have a say it ?
doubfull for that size of crowd no history etc
We have a chief steward to advise on such matters
Which she did
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Wayno I was not punched mate am ok what I ment was if i got punched or injured at a game like all the other stewards and had to take time off who would pay me .I came back off holiday to watch the game but decided to help out as the stewards were short of numbers due to holidays and people of sick
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Wayno I was not punched mate am ok what I ment was if i got punched or injured at a game like all the other stewards and had to take time off who would pay me .I came back off holiday to watch the game but decided to help out as the stewards were short of numbers due to holidays and people of sick
ahh cool that's good to hear mate
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The club were told to segregate on Thursday by head steward why they did not listen I don't know the stewards who were in the bar did a good job considering they are not sis trained and by rights should not have been in the bar anyone who would like to join the team are more than welcome..the stafford game was my last as a steward at moss lane . It's not worth taking a punch then having to take time of work and not get paid. . The club have a good stewarding team but do not seem to be appreciated by the club and sometimes by the fans. Remember if you don't have stewards the game can't be played look forward to seeing you all on the terraces
The club would probably appreciate you more if you gave up a stewarding and ran a tapestry class in the CSH.
Predictive text just substituted stewarding with "rewarding". Wrong on every level.
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From main site
SEGREGATION
Bill Waterson, on behalf of the Board of Altrincham FC writes...
"Dear Fans
The board of Altrincham FC regret the incidents that took place at Moss Lane on Saturday. We do not and will never tolerate such behaviour at Altrincham Football Club. We are now reconsidering our approach on a game by game basis to segregation.
In addition we are reviewing the relevant match day operations and procedures from Saturday's game so that we can act on our findings, once we have gathered all the relevant information. Thank you for your support.
AFC Board"