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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: HashtagAlty on July 15, 2017, 05:20:39 PM
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Four different goal scorers.
I wasn't there but sounds from Twitter we played well and took our chances
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I was there and it was the best performance by an Altrincham team for a long time, which may not be a hard standard to beat, with some very good football played. Triallists (I assume) Amis and Jones both did well again.
As the squad is so large, Phil Parkinson's difficult task will be to work out who to release.
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I saw the Whitchurch game and listened to todays game. From what I have heard and seen, it seems like we have the makings of a very good team. Phil and Neil seem good leaders and I'm sure they will turn us into a good team with optimistic expectations..
Forget what has gone before on the pitch. These new lads should just be judged on there merit.
I have a good feeling about this setup.
Roll on the Stafford match....
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Yeah we're looking good. Kidsgrove were woeful but you can only beat what's in front of you and we passed it around nicely. This time we actually had a bit of incisiveness in the final third as well. Amis looks a little bit ponderous to me but he certainly took his goal well. We were dangerous down the right with Ben Peers playing in front of Densmore. Peers looks a clever player, he put in some interesting through balls that caused a few problems. Sam Sheridan was absolutely class, he can run and win the ball as well as pass. Laurence Taylor played the full ninety and had a good game. Very skillful and linked up well with Sheridan. Honourable mention as well to Ben Harrison who is positionally excellent. He reads the game well and also won pretty much every header.
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Yeah we're looking good. Kidsgrove were woeful but you can only beat what's in front of you and we passed it around nicely. This time we actually had a bit of incisiveness in the final third as well. Amis looks a little bit ponderous to me but he certainly took his goal well. We were dangerous down the right with Ben Peers playing in front of Densmore. Peers looks a clever player, he put in some interesting through balls that caused a few problems. Sam Sheridan was absolutely class, he can run and win the ball as well as pass. Laurence Taylor played the full ninety and had a good game. Very skillful and linked up well with Sheridan. Honourable mention as well to Ben Harrison who is positionally excellent. He reads the game well and also won pretty much every header.
It's Tom Peers but with so many new players you can be forgiven for that!
How did Tony Thompson do in goal or did he not have much to do?
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It's Tom Peers but with so many new players you can be forgiven for that!
How did Tony Thompson do in goal or did he not have much to do?
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He didn't have much to do, and was beaten only by a penalty. But...his distribution and kicking was very good and he looks the part.
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It's Tom Peers but with so many new players you can be forgiven for that!
How did Tony Thompson do in goal or did he not have much to do?
He didn't have much to do, and was beaten only by a penalty. But...his distribution and kicking was very good and he looks the part.
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My thoughts exactly
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It's Tom Peers but with so many new players you can be forgiven for that!
How did Tony Thompson do in goal or did he not have much to do?
He didn't have much to do, and was beaten only by a penalty. But...his distribution and kicking was very good and he looks the part.
My thoughts exactly
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Cheers,it appears he could be a decent keeper!
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Well lets hope so because they can't rely on Deasey
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Has it crossed anyone elses' mind that
1) given our average gate is going to plummet this year with the dearth of visiting fans, and
2) we didn't pay megabucks to everyone last year and
3) we only just about broke even ...
what average wage must we be paying this year considering we are likely to have a significantly larger squad?
All I can think of is the Watmore cash (whatever it was) is being used to back an immediate return.
If that is the case, why didn't we use it a couple of years ago to stay in the National - or last year to stay in the North?
Not trying to be ultra provocative here, just wondering what I've missed.
Perhaps it was just that this is the first manager since then that the board has trusted the money to.
But in that case,
1) why did they appoint the previous managers? and
2) why did (especially) Young bring in a load of lower league cheapos?
Any ideas?
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Has it crossed anyone elses' mind that
1) given our average gate is going to plummet this year with the dearth of visiting fans, and
2) we didn't pay megabucks to everyone last year and
3) we only just about broke even ...
what average wage must we be paying this year considering we are likely to have a significantly larger squad?
All I can think of is the Watmore cash (whatever it was) is being used to back an immediate return.
If that is the case, why didn't we use it a couple of years ago to stay in the National - or last year to stay in the North?
Not trying to be ultra provocative here, just wondering what I've missed.
Perhaps it was just that this is the first manager since then that the board has trusted the money to.
But in that case,
1) why did they appoint the previous managers? and
2) why did (especially) Young bring in a load of lower league cheapos?
Any ideas?
Parkinson has brought in a load of lower league cheapos as you call them - these are largely Evostick standard players - big difference from Conference players, so you get a fair few for even reduced money
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Has it crossed anyone elses' mind that
1) given our average gate is going to plummet this year with the dearth of visiting fans, and
2) we didn't pay megabucks to everyone last year and
3) we only just about broke even ...
what average wage must we be paying this year considering we are likely to have a significantly larger squad?
All I can think of is the Watmore cash (whatever it was) is being used to back an immediate return.
If that is the case, why didn't we use it a couple of years ago to stay in the National - or last year to stay in the North?
Not trying to be ultra provocative here, just wondering what I've missed.
Perhaps it was just that this is the first manager since then that the board has trusted the money to.
But in that case,
1) why did they appoint the previous managers? and
2) why did (especially) Young bring in a load of lower league cheapos?
Any ideas?
Parkinson has brought in a load of lower league cheapos as you call them - these are largely Evostick standard players - big difference from Conference players, so you get a fair few for even reduced money
Its a good question, because on paper Phil is building one Hell of a squad for this level and I'm already seeing comments like 'if Alty don't win the league by Christmas with their budget.' Didn't GR mention something about dipping in to the cash reserves to get us out at the first attempt? That could answer the question. Further, I'm sure PP mentioned something along the lines of 'if the lads don't play, they don't get paid.' I know there are a dozen or so players on contracts, but if the rest are on non-contract and aren't taking a basic wage then that could be your answer.
Regardless, got to to disagree about PP bringing in lower league players. There's a big difference between NY signing unknown quantities and players from below the level we are at (Cyrus, BHC and, at the time, Lynch), and PP bringing in players who have all proven at least something at this level or higher.
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Basically raided all the Salford players who didn't want to turn pro so in theory should be more than good enough however shows what we've become as a club,said that you can't blame Parkinson for that.
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As regards the 'cheapo' players, I was referring to those brought in in the first half of the conf North season.
For example surely Hattersley or the lad from clitheroe would not have been on the wages that the ex salford and FCUM lads have got - and surely the Nantwich lads who came with him would have expected a pay rise? also the backroom staff?
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Has it crossed anyone elses' mind that
1) given our average gate is going to plummet this year with the dearth of visiting fans, and
2) we didn't pay megabucks to everyone last year and
3) we only just about broke even ...
what average wage must we be paying this year considering we are likely to have a significantly larger squad?
All I can think of is the Watmore cash (whatever it was) is being used to back an immediate return.
If that is the case, why didn't we use it a couple of years ago to stay in the National - or last year to stay in the North?
Not trying to be ultra provocative here, just wondering what I've missed.
Perhaps it was just that this is the first manager since then that the board has trusted the money to.
But in that case,
1) why did they appoint the previous managers? and
2) why did (especially) Young bring in a load of lower league cheapos?
Any ideas?
I believe we were top 8 budget wise last year - which further magnifies the absolute disaster it was. As such, even allowing for the reduced gate money / League sponsorship (which arguably may be off-set by increased revenue from the Community Hall non charitable activities), the playing budget should be one of the highest in the NPL. This coupled with the use of reserves you mention would mean we have to be close to top payers, although Shaw Lane are clearly the dark horse there.
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Without starting a debate, Reeves and Clee leaving will have freed up a good chunk of budget.
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The management team have put together a squad which isn't full of oldies. I reckon he intends them to grow together and improve as a squad together thus becoming a decent team in the Conf North.
I see this setup as a longer term project which hopefully the current set of players will be party to greater things.
Hopefully starting with a season of us enjoying watching the team do very well this coming season and then kicking on from there with a few tweaks here and there on the way.
Exciting times ahead folks, lets enjoy the ride and put the f**king shambles of the last two seasons behind us once and for all..
We do seem to have finally got ourselves a decent couple of guys and staff to start the rebuilding process..
C'mon on Alty
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The management team know that, if they get it right now, they'll have an extremely quiet summer on their hands next time.
Here's hoping - I really hope some of lads can forge long-term reputations as fan's favourites here (or even be good enough to move on to bigger things).
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Really nice set up at Kidsgrove...lovely tidy ground.....
Very encouraged with Dens....Ben Harrison looked a classy defender reminiscent of paul france.....you could clearly see the way the management were pushing the team to play....great that Lawrence got a full game and I really don't know who'd be the regular duo from him Sheridan and moult....
Lots of forward options as well all looked good......FOR THE LEVEL WE WILL BE PLAYING AT AND THE OPPOSITION IN FRONT OF US.
We would need to strengthen considerably if we went up although I thought with the organisation we showed yesterday we'd have stayed up last year.....
The keepers distribution was also excellent.
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Should Moult revert to CB?
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Should Moult revert to CB?
I'd rather he stayed a CM if we have Harrison and also Hannigan coming back (with Lynch and Heathcote available to play there too).
What's the latest with the lad from TNS? Has he signed?
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If Lynch and Heathcote can play it must be a very moderate standard
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If Lynch and Heathcote can play it must be a very moderate standard
I suspect they'll be adequate backups at this level.
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If Lynch and Heathcote can play it must be a very moderate standard
Lynch is a steady Conf North player to be fair Jim so will be ok at this level,Heathcote on the other hand...
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If that's the case with Lynch he must be a lot better than when he was first here
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Its pretty simple really...every player is going to look better this season because PP has got a lot more shape and movement from the players......
So when Jake has the ball, Ben Harrison has taken a bit of space forward and taken one defending attacker out, and the other midfielders are all moving into good positions, we have width and two strikers ahead so he doesn't just knock it 5 yards to lawrie who loses it....so the ball is not in our own net five seconds later......
It really is very apparent and jake and Sheridan were knocking lovely 20 yarders to someone in space....
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Didn't see Lynch last season I'm going of his first spell to be fair it was a few year ago
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Didn't see Lynch last season I'm going of his first spell to be fair it was a few year ago
That's fair comment. I wasn't impressed at first to see when we had re-signed him, but he was one of the most solid and consistent players at the end of last season