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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: HashtagAlty on May 29, 2017, 08:18:40 PM
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/3673483/dutch-den-bosc-pay-per-point-season-ticket-holland/?CMP=Spklr-_-Editorial-_-TheSunFootball-_-Sport-_-FBLink-_-Statement-_-FBPAGE (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/3673483/dutch-den-bosc-pay-per-point-season-ticket-holland/?CMP=Spklr-_-Editorial-_-TheSunFootball-_-Sport-_-FBLink-_-Statement-_-FBPAGE)
This club is charging £22 per season ticket... but then fans pay per point.
Potentially do it as £200 then refund per point.
Would this encourage more season ticketS?
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
This.
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
That wasn't the question.
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
That wasn't the question.
Oh I'm sorry CB I should've made it clearer for those that only go off Yes or No answers. IMO at our club at the present time the answer would be No.
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
That wasn't the question.
Oh I'm sorry CB I should've made it clearer for those that only go off Yes or No answers. IMO at our club at the present time the answer would be No.
And his opinion is more widely shared than many people realise.
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https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/tickets/201718-season-tickets/
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https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/tickets/201718-season-tickets/
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That's a mint way to do it
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
That wasn't the question.
Oh I'm sorry CB I should've made it clearer for those that only go off Yes or No answers. IMO at our club at the present time the answer would be No.
And his opinion is more widely shared than many people realise.
selected aways only for me next year
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I'd pay full price for a season ticket if Rowley steps down but nothing if he doesn't and that's that I'm afraid.
That wasn't the question.
Oh I'm sorry CB I should've made it clearer for those that only go off Yes or No answers. IMO at our club at the present time the answer would be No.
And his opinion is more widely shared than many people realise.
selected aways only for me next year
An approach I suspect quite a few will take.
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We could be the first side with a bigger following away than at home :D
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I've still not had a reply from the club and I actually contacted them to say I want a season ticket despite not being able to go to most matches. Thats free money for them. Come on Alty, you read this forum PM me with detail on how I can purchase a season ticket remotely (you'll note in all the advertising on the official site you never actually mentioned how to buy one).
I cant see any scheme like above working if we can't sell the bloody things to people who will pay full price for them?!?!?!??!?
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I've still not had a reply from the club and I actually contacted them to say I want a season ticket despite not being able to go to most matches. Thats free money for them. Come on Alty, you read this forum PM me with detail on how I can purchase a season ticket remotely (you'll note in all the advertising on the official site you never actually mentioned how to buy one).
I cant see any scheme like above working if we can't sell the bloody things to people who will pay full price for them?!?!?!??!?
this is one for Management Guru or should I say Management foofoo
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This is no slur on Bill but with a blatant disregard for any sense of intelligence in the humour this made laugh.... a lot. Classic stuff!
In other news I've had response from the club and i'll defy the odds by purchasing my season ticket tomorrow.
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It's a bit daft that it's not possible to purchase season tickets on line - or pretty much anything the club sells.
A lot of people will be put off by having to go down to the club etc.
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It's a bit daft that it's not possible to purchase season tickets on line - or pretty much anything the club sells.
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A lot of people will be put off by having to go down to the club etc.
I was certainly put off by going down to the club on a regular basis between August and October
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This club seems to like cash transactions a little too much in my opinion
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It's a bit daft that it's not possible to purchase season tickets on line - or pretty much anything the club sells.
A lot of people will be put off by having to go down to the club etc.
Agree 100% and I do feel, unfortunately, that we have bit of a luddite attitude towards things like this. "Give Jenny a ring" may have been the accepted way to handle enquiries in the 1990's, but in 2017 we should have a fully functioning online club shop.
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Already more season tickets have been sold than Stalybridge managed to sell last season.
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It's a bit daft that it's not possible to purchase season tickets on line - or pretty much anything the club sells.
A lot of people will be put off by having to go down to the club etc.
Agree 100% and I do feel, unfortunately, that we have bit of a luddite attitude towards things like this. "Give Jenny a ring" may have been the accepted way to handle enquiries in the 1990's, but in 2017 we should have a fully functioning online club shop.
and a fully functioning football team as well please . Hee hee
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and a fully functioning football team as well please . Hee hee
Something that definitely was better in the 1990's, for the most part....... :)
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This club seems to like cash transactions a little too much in my opinion
I have just called the club to purchase a season ticket & was able to pay by credit card over the phone.
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This club seems to like cash transactions a little too much in my opinion
I have just called the club to purchase a season ticket & was able to pay by credit card over the phone.
Perhaps they should advertise this....not that I'm thinking of making use of it.
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It is very hit and miss,electronic payment should not even be up for debate in this day and age. I will not win many friends for saying this, knowing the precious nature of the football club to react to any constructive criticism. But, when the community sport hall was constructed a dedicated reception area or ticket office should have been put in. Even now one of the large windows on to the pavement should be adapted as such. People know space is short, people know everyone works hard, people know we are greatful for volunteers People know it's shared by the differing companies and departments. But an area that resembles a cross between a shared working space, a canteen, a crèche, a coffee morning and an ex managers holding area should not be on public view. Again it's about presentation,perception and the public face. A sliding window with a doorbell, float tin and a chip and pin machine would be far better, giving people access to tickets, general enquiries and club shop items. It is a working office and as such will understandably be a hub bub as people are busy,but it's not a reception area or a ticket office/club shop. We're back to second hand lawnmower appeals here, might not bother other people but I think it's important and would increase profits and make it look a more slick and professional operation.
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It is very hit and miss,electronic payment should not even be up for debate in this day and age. I will not win many friends for saying this, knowing the precious nature of the football club to react to any constructive criticism. But, when the community sport hall was constructed a dedicated reception area or ticket office should have been put in. Even now one of the large windows on to the pavement should be adapted as such. People know space is short, people know everyone works hard, people know we are greatful for volunteers People know it's shared by the differing companies and departments. But an area that resembles a cross between a shared working space, a canteen, a crèche, a coffee morning and an ex managers holding area should not be on public view. Again it's about presentation,perception and the public face. A sliding window with a doorbell, float tin and a chip and pin machine would be far better, giving people access to tickets, general enquiries and club shop items. It is a working office and as such will understandably be a hub bub as people are busy,but it's not a reception area or a ticket office/club shop. We're back to second hand lawnmower appeals here, might not bother other people but I think it's important and would increase profits and make it look a more slick and professional operation.
Rather ironically, we used to have one of these in the 1970's....a place that I associate with the legendary Derek Kennerley, as he seemed to be the one generally on the other side of the opening.
Some good thoughts here.
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Should be a window open during the dispensing drinks. No ideal the bar being on the opposite side of the the window, but would be a a money spinner.
Could have the players not in the squad earning their corn by fetching and carrying drinks.
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It's a bit daft that it's not possible to purchase season tickets on line - or pretty much anything the club sells.
A lot of people will be put off by having to go down to the club etc.
...and a nightmare to market.
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How hard would it be to set up an auxiliary webpage for processing such transactions?
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How hard would it be to set up an auxiliary webpage for processing such transactions?
It would be relatively easy to do for individual ticketed games, but season tickets at those amounts would probably mean a fair whack of commission and subsequent loss of revenue.
We will never be able to sell directly from the official website in its current format. A transition to Wix or another drag and drop site builder would open a lot of doors for the club.
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How hard would it be to set up an auxiliary webpage for processing such transactions?
It would be relatively easy to do for individual ticketed games, but season tickets at those amounts would probably mean a fair whack of commission and subsequent loss of revenue.
We will never be able to sell directly from the official website in its current format. A transition to Wix or another drag and drop site builder would open a lot of doors for the club.
Do you know how much it would cost to set up a new website with e-commerce facilities?
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How hard would it be to set up an auxiliary webpage for processing such transactions?
It would be relatively easy to do for individual ticketed games, but season tickets at those amounts would probably mean a fair whack of commission and subsequent loss of revenue.
We will never be able to sell directly from the official website in its current format. A transition to Wix or another drag and drop site builder would open a lot of doors for the club.
Do you know how much it would cost to set up a new website with e-commerce facilities?
Yes
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Shopify is between 0.5 and 2%. + 20p per transaction and an £19 a month fee.
Add the cost of those transactions similar to a booking fee, or absorb the £5 of a season ticket to help reach more people
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Shopify is between 0.5 and 2%. + 20p per transaction and an £19 a month fee.
Add the cost of those transactions similar to a booking fee, or absorb the £5 of a season ticket to help reach more people
Shopify is far from the only ecommerce show in town and not all operate on a percentage per transaction basis. There is also the open source route if you can get a knowledgeable supporter to build the site.
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How hard would it be to set up an auxiliary webpage for processing such transactions?
It would be relatively easy to do for individual ticketed games, but season tickets at those amounts would probably mean a fair whack of commission and subsequent loss of revenue.
We will never be able to sell directly from the official website in its current format. A transition to Wix or another drag and drop site builder would open a lot of doors for the club.
Do you know how much it would cost to set up a new website with e-commerce facilities?
Yes
What would be a ball park figure?
Despite the current situation, it could be a positive step if we could raise some funds to get this going.
I'm not sure people at the club realise how much people expect to be able to purchase anything online now.
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Shopify is between 0.5 and 2%. + 20p per transaction and an £19 a month fee.
Add the cost of those transactions similar to a booking fee, or absorb the £5 of a season ticket to help reach more people
Shopify is far from the only ecommerce show in town and not all operate on a percentage per transaction basis. There is also the open source route if you can get a knowledgeable supporter to build the site.
shopify can be integrated into Social platforms well, but I agree plenty of options out there
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SagePay offer 350 purchases for £19.50 a month, this is integrate able into Wordpress which most tech savvy could implement.
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What would be a ball park figure?
Despite the current situation, it could be a positive step if we could raise some funds to get this going.
I'm not sure people at the club realise how much people expect to be able to purchase anything online now.
In truth my answer was somewhat flippant Jimmy....in my defence it's been a hard day...week...year
It is a little like asking how long is a piece of string as there are many factors influencing the cost. However, I would have thought for a fairly basic ecommerce site (and I can't imagine we would require much more than that) built by a small agency or freelancer, you'd be looking at somewhere between £3K - £6K. If looking at something rather more sophisticated and built by a larger agency you could be looking at upwards of £15K.
They really are ballpark figures that I've just pulled out of my arse the air.....in an educated manner of course.
I put one together for an acquaintance over here for a few grand a few years back.
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What would be a ball park figure?
Despite the current situation, it could be a positive step if we could raise some funds to get this going.
I'm not sure people at the club realise how much people expect to be able to purchase anything online now.
In truth my answer was somewhat flippant Jimmy....in my defence it's been a hard day...week...year
It is a little like asking how long is a piece of string as there are many factors influencing the cost. However, I would have thought for a fairly basic ecommerce site (and I can't imagine we would require much more than that) built by a small agency or freelancer, you'd be looking at somewhere between £3K - £6K. If looking at something rather more sophisticated and built by a larger agency you could be looking at upwards of £15K.
They really are ballpark figures that I've just pulled out of my arse the air.....in an educated manner of course.
I put one together for an acquaintance over here for a few grand a few years back.
No worries.
Well at that price I can imagine that it's not something the club would jump at, however you'd reckon that after a few seasons it would pay for itself.
I considered signing up for the monthly draw but it involved sending a letter to the club. I couldn't be bothered in the end. I know that's just me being lazy but I know I'm not the only one...
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In an odd twist I've just noticed that we do have an online shop: http://altrinchamfconlineshop.go-ecommerce.com/shopping/mall/altrinchamfconlineshop/Product/season-tickets-season-tickets-1338117
However they are selling season tickets for the 2014/2015 season. ::)
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What would be a ball park figure?
Despite the current situation, it could be a positive step if we could raise some funds to get this going.
I'm not sure people at the club realise how much people expect to be able to purchase anything online now.
In truth my answer was somewhat flippant Jimmy....in my defence it's been a hard day...week...year
It is a little like asking how long is a piece of string as there are many factors influencing the cost. However, I would have thought for a fairly basic ecommerce site (and I can't imagine we would require much more than that) built by a small agency or freelancer, you'd be looking at somewhere between £3K - £6K. If looking at something rather more sophisticated and built by a larger agency you could be looking at upwards of £15K.
They really are ballpark figures that I've just pulled out of my arse the air.....in an educated manner of course.
I put one together for an acquaintance over here for a few grand a few years back.
No worries.
Well at that price I can imagine that it's not something the club would jump at, however you'd reckon that after a few seasons it would pay for itself.
I considered signing up for the monthly draw but it involved sending a letter to the club. I couldn't be bothered in the end. I know that's just me being lazy but I know I'm not the only one...
The monthly draw should be an online form.
As for a shop, £3,000 is ludicrous. You could build an entire new club website for similar cash to that.
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The monthly draw should be an online form.
As for a shop, £3,000 is ludicrous. You could build an entire new club website for similar cash to that.
Down of yer box there. Those prices were for a whole website build incorporating an online shop. I certainly wouldn't be recommending bolting on an ecommerce module to the current site (which could do with a rework anyway). If you were going to go down the ecommerce route at all, you may as well start from scratch.
If you want to go down the cheapest route, why not just set up a Paypal business account and use Paypal buttons (code generated for you) on a new shop page?
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Before we all get above ourselves with a who has the biggest tech willy competition I think it's fair to say that the only thing blocking the club from doing this is a bit of a mix of lack of knowhow, ambition and commercial awareness.
You can let it cost whatever you feel like really and you adapt the scale to the value it will bring. The fact we haven't done it says more about where the club sits in terms of progression.
(Edit: I just want to add that this has been highlighted in that daft 5 year plan we had so it's no slur on the new board members who I know have some IT background. This should have been sorted a few years back, odd to think we operated commercially like this in the Conf national.)
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Before we all get above ourselves with a who has the biggest tech willy competition I think it's fair to say that the only thing blocking the club from doing this is a bit of a mix of lack of knowhow, ambition and commercial awareness.
You can let it cost whatever you feel like really and you adapt the scale to the value it will bring. The fact we haven't done it says more about where the club sits in terms of progression.
(Edit: I just want to add that this has been highlighted in that daft 5 year plan we had so it's no slur on the new board members who I know have some IT background. This should have been sorted a few years back, odd to think we operated commercially like this in the Conf national.)
Well said that man.
....and for the record, my willy is far from technical and operates under a prehistoric algorithm (of course the algorithm method of contraception is fully approved by the catholic church, for whom strategic withdrawal has been a widely used and totally ineffective policy throughout history.....but that's another can of worms altogether....your honour).
What was this thread about again?
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I'm pretty sure that Hereford United used to operate a scheme whereby the price on the gate was determined by their league position. I seem to recall on one occasion when we played there, they had fallen down the league a bit and we got in at the cheaper price.
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I'm pretty sure that Hereford United used to operate a scheme whereby the price on the gate was determined by their league position. I seem to recall on one occasion when we played there, they had fallen down the league a bit and we got in at the cheaper price.
Jaysus wept.....they'd be paying us to attend at this stage of proceedings