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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: John Edwards on May 11, 2017, 06:32:10 PM
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Two stories just gone on the club's website - one good, the other not so good.
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Is that the investment news ?
Thanks for coming back to try and help us in desperate times Nicky
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This club is up sh*t street, do one!
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presume the bad one is Clee leaving,good one is my patrons membership was posted to the club today
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GR's comments are quite extraordinary - wasn't Clee contracted to Harrogate when we got him from them?
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The way I read it is the JD Davison sponsorship is separate from the other potential investment.
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I wouldn't say Clee leaving is bad news tbh. He's no spring chicken,injury prone and won't have been on peanuts.
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I wouldn't say Clee leaving is bad news tbh. He's no spring chicken,injury prone and won't have been on peanuts.
Mind you, we've now lost our second-choice goalkeeper.....
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
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GR's comments are quite extraordinary - wasn't Clee contracted to Harrogate when we got him from them?
Subtle difference. He initiated it himself at Harrogate, without any prompting from the club he joined (us). Not so this time.
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
thanks for this
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On a contract we could have said no
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On a contract we could have said no
Why have a player who's heart not there,
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Because the purchasing team would have to pay for the privilege, whats the point in having contracts at all then? Do you think Clee would have refused to play...my guess stockport
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
So when are we getting news on the new investment, can you tell us that?
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As has been said if clee was contracted we could and should have got a fee. So I suspected he wasnt on contract.
As for him being injury prone, im sure someone could add up the minutes he was injured during his 3 club season.
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Well, I can only assume that Nicky Clee has undergone a recent blood transfusion....
16 December 2016
ALTY'S "IN MY BLOOD" SAYS NICKY
John Edwards, Press and Media Officer, writes, "Nicky Clee has spoken of his delight at rejoining Altrincham and admitted the club is 'in my blood.' The talented winger, a huge crowd favourite in his first spell at The J.Davidson Stadium, became an Alty player for a second time on Friday morning and goes straight into interim manager Matt Doughty's squad for Saturday's Vanarama National League North fixture at Stockport County.
Reflecting on a whirlwind 24 hours that began with Harrogate Town agreeing to cancel his contract and ended with Alty adding his attacking flair to their bid to escape relegation trouble, Clee delivered an upbeat assessment of his fitness, after persistent groin problems last year, and said, 'I just can't wait to get going again in Alty colours. It's like a lot of our supporters say, the club gets in your blood. Lots of them have told me that over the years, and it's clearly the same with me. Five or six clubs other were interested in signing me when I left Guiseley just over a month ago, but I haven't spoken to any of them. Once I knew Buzz (Matt Doughty) wanted me, that was it."
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Macsporran - I can't give exact dates. My understanding is that we are waiting on some externals to complete some tasks and this is taking longer than expected.
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
when we getting news about Rowley stepping down?
Arsed about friendlies
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Two stories just gone on the club's website - one good, the other not so good.
Which is which?
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
when we getting news about Rowley stepping down?
Arsed about friendlies
No one has actually said he is stepping down, but the group who met up with him must have been impressed with something premsumably said regarding the potential investment ?
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Not that bothered/surprised that Nicky wanted to leave....
He was very good on his day, but those days will get fewer and fewer.
Just need to read that GR has handed in his notice now... Sadly I cannot see that happening anytime soon, which will undoubtedly have an effect on attendances next season...
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
when we getting news about Rowley stepping down?
Arsed about friendlies
No one has actually said he is stepping down, but the group who met up with him must have been impressed with something premsumably said regarding the potential investment ?
I don't know if it was just me but when I read that statement a couple of weeks back it didn't shout out to me that investment was coming in, more that things were being done to facilitate investment. Who knows? But as Ray says below GR needs to bitevthe bullet for the greater good
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Timperley - you read it correctly.
Also, we hope to be able to let you all know the confirmed pre season friendlys tomorrow; with a major squad update at the weekend.
when we getting news about Rowley stepping down?
Arsed about friendlies
No one has actually said he is stepping down, but the group who met up with him must have been impressed with something premsumably said regarding the potential investment ?
I don't know if it was just me but when I read that statement a couple of weeks back it didn't shout out to me that investment was coming in, more that things were being done to facilitate investment. Who knows? But as Ray says below GR needs to bitevthe bullet for the greater good
Thats how I read it , faciliate for investment rather than some major takeover etc
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Macsporran - I can't give exact dates. My understanding is that we are waiting on some externals to complete some tasks and this is taking longer than expected.
Management Guru - I'm afraid your answer sounds like corporate waffle. A simple " I don't know and can't guess when " would have been easier to understand. I was under the impression that communication was promised to improve under the new regime. I'm not seeing much to back that up.
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MacSporran - sorry about that. No waffle, just attempting to bring as much clarity as I can to the situation -given the situation is ambiguous.
There are a couple of tasks being undertaken by outside organsations that should have been complete by now. They have told us it will take "a couple more days" rather than (say) a number of weeks. So we had hoped to bring news today, and now we hope to be able to do so in the coming week. We thought we should announce the delay rather than let the deadline we had announced pass without comment. It is impossible to be precise - but I wanted to give an answer that had more content than "we don't know". I hope that my second attempt fares better than my first.
I am glad to be pulled up whenever I stray into corp speak - and so I thank you for pulling me back onto the straight and narrow.
Does this version provide more clarity?
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Nobody has said Rowley is going.
Only mention of Rowley's position has been from Rowley that has said he's going nowhere.
The four that met with Rowley stood down from their protests to allow Grahame to see this investment come to fruition.
No mention that this investment would lead to Grahame going, but I would think if it's a serious amount of investment that investment would come with the shares attached to it, and would either give challange to Grahames tenure or give someone for the Fab Four to support and protest in to the role
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As has been said if clee was contracted we could and should have got a fee. So I suspected he wasnt on contract.
As for him being injury prone, im sure someone could add up the minutes he was injured during his 3 club season.
The statement on the official website states that he "asked to be released from his contract" which was "due to run until the end of next season".
Still, it must encourage new players to join. If you get injured, you, quite rightly, continue to get paid, but, if you want to leave, you can, and just get some disapproving remarks. As said, keeping a player who wants to leave is pretty pointless, but could not a complaint be made against the club which approached a contracted player?
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Unless the clown goes the investment means nothing,it be just pissed up the wall and as many have said they won't buy season tickets
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My gut feeling is that GR will not be Altrincham FC chairman in the near future. After successive relegations, I simply cannot see it. Will it be linked to the promised investment news? Well, they're making a bloody big deal about it aren't they, so perhaps.
On Nicky. I was sad when he left last time, but with respect to him (and Reevesy for that matter), I'm actually quite relieved he's gone. Time to move on for all involved, particularly Altrincham FC.
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MacSporran - sorry about that. No waffle, just attempting to bring as much clarity as I can to the situation -given the situation is ambiguous.
There are a couple of tasks being undertaken by outside organsations that should have been complete by now. They have told us it will take "a couple more days" rather than (say) a number of weeks. So we had hoped to bring news today, and now we hope to be able to do so in the coming week. We thought we should announce the delay rather than let the deadline we had announced pass without comment. It is impossible to be precise - but I wanted to give an answer that had more content than "we don't know". I hope that my second attempt fares better than my first.
I am glad to be pulled up whenever I stray into corp speak - and so I thank you for pulling me back onto the straight and narrow.
Does this version provide more clarity?
Yes thanks, it's clearer. It's only a shame that it's taken a few posts to get the full version ! Appreciate the reply.
Let's hope this is worth the wait...
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GR's comments are quite extraordinary - wasn't Clee contracted to Harrogate when we got him from them?
Subtle difference. He initiated it himself at Harrogate, without any prompting from the club he joined (us). Not so this time.
That is an important distinction, though I can't imagine Clee would have asked to be released from his contract if he didn't know he'd get another gig elsewhere. And he wasn't playing at Harrogate, so I guess they were more understanding in that case. But I still find it odd that GR has had a pop at Clee for asking to be released from his contract when him doing that was what enabled us to re-sign him in the first place.
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Great news that we secured sponsorship for the season, and there's still investment on the horizon.
I also cant imagine why GR would stay, surely he just wants to leave on a high note, but I somehow feel he has no interest in stepping down at all. He and his family have made it clear they are heavily entrenched in the football club. I feel their passion and loyalty towards the club has become completely misguided. Lets see anyway, opportunities around the corner.
I'm not bothered about Clee going, he's a liability because we relied on him for creativity and when he came back he wasnt fit every week and we didnt suddenly start putting the ball in the box for strikers. We need a fresh start, we only believe Clee is amazing because we have become so appaulingly bad on the pitch. There are younger, fitter, more reliable Nicky Clee's out there. He's been a good player for Alty but times up, lets move on.
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Great news that we secured sponsorship for the season, and there's still investment on the horizon.
I also cant imagine why GR would stay, surely he just wants to leave on a high note, but I somehow feel he has no interest in stepping down at all. He and his family have made it clear they are heavily entrenched in the football club. I feel their passion and loyalty towards the club has become completely misguided. Lets see anyway, opportunities around the corner.
I'm not bothered about Clee going, he's a liability because we relied on him for creativity and when he came back he wasnt fit every week and we didnt suddenly start putting the ball in the box for strikers. We need a fresh start, we only believe Clee is amazing because we have become so appaulingly bad on the pitch. There are younger, fitter, more reliable Nicky Clee's out there. He's been a good player for Alty but times up, lets move on.
Well put. Securing our main shirt and stadium sponsor for another season is frankly the important news here, not the departure of an ageing, injury prone player whose best days are behind him, even taking into account the fantastic service Nicky has given us in the past. I believe Parky will have other irons in the fire.
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I was always unsure of Nicky coming back last season. He would have been a miracle worker to have got that group of players motivated, and that wasn't his core role. I also feared for his ankles playing on poorer pitches against poorer less able teams next season. As has been said before, move on.
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Home game v Gloucester Clee put in plenty of decent crosses but no one could be arsed to get on the end of them.
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Well put. Securing our main shirt and stadium sponsor for another season is frankly the important news here, not the departure of an ageing, injury prone player whose best days are behind him, even taking into account the fantastic service Nicky has given us in the past. I believe Parky will have other irons in the fire.
My thoughts exactly.
With Clee it's a bit of a sour taste really when he left Guiseley and then Harrogate gazumped us, then that didn't work out so we signed him again and gave him a long contract. Now he is offmans again? I'll remember him in his pomp though when he was great but I think but there was better ways of exiting than this.
Parky loves a winger though from my reading so hopefully he will have players to step up and Clee won't have been playing for peanuts.
The resigning of Davidsons is huge. Getting a shirt and ground sponsor is hard in any league, to do it in the NPL is double hard unless it's a directors company. Would have been a large hole in the budget so a massive thanks to them.
As someone who has scrapped four cars with them, I'm doing my best to help out.
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So that's where the infamous Montego finished up !
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So that's where the infamous Montego finished up !
It was a Maestro,I had the Montego which also ended up at Davidsons along with 5 other ex motors so me and Ecky are definitely doing our bit!!
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Macsporran - I can't give exact dates. My understanding is that we are waiting on some externals to complete some tasks and this is taking longer than expected.
I take it this is still ongoing ?
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Macsporran - I can't give exact dates. My understanding is that we are waiting on some externals to complete some tasks and this is taking longer than expected.
I take it this is still ongoing ?
I suspect this is a non-starter now.
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Macsporran - I can't give exact dates. My understanding is that we are waiting on some externals to complete some tasks and this is taking longer than expected.
I take it this is still ongoing ?
I suspect this is a non-starter now.
Hope you are wrong
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Macsporran - I can't give exact dates. My understanding is that we are waiting on some externals to complete some tasks and this is taking longer than expected.
I take it this is still ongoing ?
I suspect this is a non-starter now.
Hope you are wrong
Me too. The longer it goes on the less likely it is to come through. After last season I am cynical about anything Mr. Rowley has been involved with.
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I'm pretty sure we were promised an update on this issue.
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Its not that unusual for equity round subscriptions to be delayed...valuation and control issues are often thorny subjects. I have twice in my recent career had equity deals that took well approx 2 years to complete, but got there in the end. I have no idea what is going on here, but if I was putting money into the club right now after the past 2 seasons, my demands would be very tough indeed, and for sure it wouldn't be a quick negotiation. Quick, poorly thought through deals can cause problems down the road.
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Just noticed Kendal Towns potential investors have been told their deal is off , they were talking of investing £100k but the investors didnt provide enough details that were asked of them.