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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: andrewflynn on March 28, 2017, 10:29:19 AM
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Contracted players have been included as many disagree with the decision to keep some of them on, hopefully we can see if that's represented in the poll. Vote for as many, or as little of them as you wish.
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Who the feck is Darius Palma?
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Who the feck is Darius Palma?
Youth teamer who is capable enough by all accounts to be useful in the Glue League.
I'd forgotten we still had Clayton McDonald. But then he is pretty forgettable (unless you're Ched Evans).
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Who the feck is Darius Palma?
Youth teamer who is capable enough by all accounts to be useful in the Glue League.
I'd forgotten we still had Clayton McDonald. But then he is pretty forgettable (unless you're Ched Evans).
Ah yes, I may be making it up but I think he played in the Youth FA Cup games covered by RR.
Apologies to Darius. I apportion no blame to our youth players for this seasons farce. Keep him on.
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Large parts of this squad could be revitalised under new management and a fresh challenge next season. I don't think we necessarily need to learn from Neil Young's mistakes, because with the exception of Scott Leather he was completely right to get rid of who he did, Young's problem was that he provided substandard replacements. That being said, we should be looking to retain a core of around 8-10 players from this season's squad.
I'd like to think that some of these lads want to put the situation right, and so they will stay on with a point to prove under (hopefully) new management next season. I disagreed with much of what Graham Heathcote had to say at the Strategic Review meeting because it was clearly a plea to be kept on - but he was right when he said that some of this squad are not bad players. Plus, keeping a nucleus to build on provides management an easier recruitment task in the summer. It is imperative that we find a goalkeeper, for example. That will be much easier to do if you aren't also focusing your efforts on two new strikers, two new central midfielders, three defenders. You get my point.
Goalkeepers: 0. Deasy is poor, I question Tomlinson's commitment to the cause and Jones shouldn't be near the bench (fine as a third choice.)
Defence: I picked Chris Lynch (starting right back), John Cyrus (starting centre back) and then Sam Patterson, Sam Heathcote, Kyle Brownhill and Harry Cain. Patterson and Brownhill can play in multiple positions, its not long since Heathcote was starting and holding his own in National League fixtures and Harry Cain could be an asset at that level. Four young lads who are still progressing.
Midfield: Sean Miller is a no-brainer for me (starting right winger) along with Jake Moult, Simon Richman and Laurence Taylor. I've pretty much hated the sight of Moult all season but after consideration I think he should be afforded the chance to once again prove his worth to the club, him and Richman have been playing together for years now and you would be silly to break that up as we drop in playing standard. Laurence Taylor has bags of potential. No Nicky Clee for me, I think someone referred to him as an 'ageing luxury' a couple of days ago? A tough one and the reasons for keeping him are obvious, but for what I'd imagine he's earning we could bring in two players fit for that level.
Forwards: James Lawrie, gulp, and Andy Owens (don't laugh.) It is mad to think Lawrie is only 26, feels like he's been here for a decade. His positives and negatives have been talked to death at this stage but I don't know why you would want to let a player like that go as he reaches his peak dropping into a poorer standard of football.
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I'd bin both Owens and Lawrie off as neither will be on peanuts and bring in 2 goal scorers. I think Clee would be excellent at left back which is a position we need to fill as neither McWilliams or Brownhill are good enough there IMO. Saying that though Brownhill is worth keeping because he's quite versatile and can fill in a number of positions.
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I'd bin both Owens and Lawrie off as neither will be on peanuts and bring in 2 goal scorers. I think Clee would be excellent at left back which is a position we need to fill as neither McWilliams or Brownhill are good enough there IMO. Saying that though Brownhill is worth keeping because he's quite versatile and can fill in a number of positions.
Keping Clee on as a left back is a good call.
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I'd bin both Owens and Lawrie off as neither will be on peanuts and bring in 2 goal scorers. I think Clee would be excellent at left back which is a position we need to fill as neither McWilliams or Brownhill are good enough there IMO. Saying that though Brownhill is worth keeping because he's quite versatile and can fill in a number of positions.
I would keep McWilliams. Nicky will be kicked all over the place next year. Jury still out on him, not for his abilities but because of the level we are now at.
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Amending Fabio's first post to fall in line with the one below it, I pretty well concur with the net result - though I've already said that we may struggle to keep Moult and Richman.
James Lawrie is an absolute no-no for me. The further down the pyramid we slide, the more we need workhorses, not show ponies.
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I'd bin both Owens and Lawrie off as neither will be on peanuts and bring in 2 goal scorers. I think Clee would be excellent at left back which is a position we need to fill as neither McWilliams or Brownhill are good enough there IMO. Saying that though Brownhill is worth keeping because he's quite versatile and can fill in a number of positions.
I would keep McWilliams. Nicky will be kicked all over the place next year. Jury still out on him, not for his abilities but because of the level we are now at.
McWilliams is trash: https://youtu.be/9gxZ9fgx43s?t=8m50s
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I'd bin both Owens and Lawrie off as neither will be on peanuts and bring in 2 goal scorers. I think Clee would be excellent at left back which is a position we need to fill as neither McWilliams or Brownhill are good enough there IMO. Saying that though Brownhill is worth keeping because he's quite versatile and can fill in a number of positions.
I would keep McWilliams. Nicky will be kicked all over the place next year. Jury still out on him, not for his abilities but because of the level we are now at.
McWilliams is trash: https://youtu.be/9gxZ9fgx43s?t=8m50s
Painful.
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I'd bin both Owens and Lawrie off as neither will be on peanuts and bring in 2 goal scorers. I think Clee would be excellent at left back which is a position we need to fill as neither McWilliams or Brownhill are good enough there IMO. Saying that though Brownhill is worth keeping because he's quite versatile and can fill in a number of positions.
I would keep McWilliams. Nicky will be kicked all over the place next year. Jury still out on him, not for his abilities but because of the level we are now at.
McWilliams is trash: https://youtu.be/9gxZ9fgx43s?t=8m50s
Painful.
Absolutely terrible. Said it all year, our best left back this season has been that young Josh Doherty.
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Apparently McWilliams repeatedly failed to play to instructions. We can't afford mavericks.
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Large parts of this squad could be revitalised under new management and a fresh challenge next season. I don't think we necessarily need to learn from Neil Young's mistakes, because with the exception of Scott Leather he was completely right to get rid of who he did, Young's problem was that he provided substandard replacements. That being said, we should be looking to retain a core of around 8-10 players from this season's squad.
I'd like to think that some of these lads want to put the situation right, and so they will stay on with a point to prove under (hopefully) new management next season. I disagreed with much of what Graham Heathcote had to say at the Strategic Review meeting because it was clearly a plea to be kept on - but he was right when he said that some of this squad are not bad players. Plus, keeping a nucleus to build on provides management an easier recruitment task in the summer. It is imperative that we find a goalkeeper, for example. That will be much easier to do if you aren't also focusing your efforts on two new strikers, two new central midfielders, three defenders. You get my point.
Goalkeepers: 0. Deasy is poor, I question Tomlinson's commitment to the cause and Jones shouldn't be near the bench (fine as a third choice.)
Defence: I picked Chris Lynch (starting right back), John Cyrus (starting centre back) and then Sam Patterson, Sam Heathcote, Kyle Brownhill and Harry Cain. Patterson and Brownhill can play in multiple positions, its not long since Heathcote was starting and holding his own in National League fixtures and Harry Cain could be an asset at that level. Four young lads who are still progressing.
Midfield: Sean Miller is a no-brainer for me (starting right winger) along with Jake Moult, Simon Richman and Laurence Taylor. I've pretty much hated the sight of Moult all season but after consideration I think he should be afforded the chance to once again prove his worth to the club, him and Richman have been playing together for years now and you would be silly to break that up as we drop in playing standard. Laurence Taylor has bags of potential. No Nicky Clee for me, I think someone referred to him as an 'ageing luxury' a couple of days ago? A tough one and the reasons for keeping him are obvious, but for what I'd imagine he's earning we could bring in two players fit for that level.
Forwards: James Lawrie, gulp, and Andy Owens (don't laugh.) It is mad to think Lawrie is only 26, feels like he's been here for a decade. His positives and negatives have been talked to death at this stage but I don't know why you would want to let a player like that go as he reaches his peak dropping into a poorer standard of football.
im no longer interested what they do but you make a good point in the first paragraph for all the heckling of Young Leather was the only one he should've kept.
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I don't know who half of these players are.
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I couldn't fin an option for 'none of them'.
Seriously though, I'd keep 5 and have Miller as the 1st name on the team sheet every game.
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I couldn't fin an option for 'none of them'.
Seriously though, I'd keep 5 and have Miller as the 1st name on the team sheet every game.
I purposefully left that option off to make sure the poll was productive!
Poor Clayton McDonald and Alan Goodall, they're getting no love.
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Disagree with the Young was right to release everyone statement. The majority of the players he released had all won the conference north at least once at some point in their careers and most where still of a good age. Obviously there did need to be some ins and outs, but what was required most was somebody to come in with some fresh ideas to rejuvenate and refresh a more than decent squad of players.
Interested at the number of votes for Hannigan on this poll given he's contracted here next season.Good solid player when he plays, which is nowhere near regularly enough, so will be interesting what happens between him and the club in the summer.
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Tom Hannigan is without a shadow of a doubt our best defender. But, where the f*** is he? I didn't vote for him.
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I'm puzzled by the apparent reluctance to keep Darius Palma. Wouldn't make a significant dent in the budget and could be loaned out Hyde or Droylsden in the league below to gain experience.
I didn't vote to keep Shaun Densmore because I sadly doubt he'll ever really be fit again....and like Nicky Clee he's likely to get kicked too often.
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Who didnt vote for Miller?
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Own up who voted for goodhall?
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I voted for only Lynch, Cain, Miller, Clee, Lawrie
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next season is going to be difficult. Half of these players seem to be permanently unfit. Time to wave goodbye to most of them.
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next season is going to be difficult. Half of these players seem to be permanently unfit. Time to wave goodbye to most of them.
Appoint the Nantwich manager and let him bring his whole squad, of course he won't be interested now, to busy trying to replace us in conf north
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next season is going to be difficult. Half of these players seem to be permanently unfit. Time to wave goodbye to most of them.
Appoint the Nantwich manager and let him bring his whole squad, of course he won't be interested now, to busy trying to replace us in conf north
Ever so painful.
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next season is going to be difficult. Half of these players seem to be permanently unfit. Time to wave goodbye to most of them.
Appoint the Nantwich manager and let him bring his whole squad, of course he won't be interested now, to busy trying to replace us in conf north
Ever so painful.
Why? Nantwich will be the team to beat if they stay down
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So only seven players voted for by at least half of the 58 who took part in the poll.
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Some of the players I can't put a face to. Others are fragile, still more have probably had one injury too many and are looking at retirement.
I'm sure quite a few are going to be able to do a decent job once we get this millstone of a season out the way.
The main issue for me with regards to promotion next season is bringing in attackers who can work to a plan and score goals. Someone is going to have to do a really good selling job. I'm not keen on paying over the odds to bring in someone who turns out not to want to put a shift in.
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So only seven players voted for by at least half of the 58 who took part in the poll.
I thought a poll format would be quite telling and it proved so.