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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: HashtagAlty on March 18, 2017, 04:33:00 PM
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Apologises for anybody following the social media of the club. We've been locked out.
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No separation of emotion and business. Disgraceful.
Surely the chairman should be watching the game and not authorising a social media lockout of 2 volunteers during it?
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Really? What a wanker!!
This has made my mind up now,I won't be stepping foot inside Moss Lane again while that idiot is still chairman.
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There was nothing to update
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So, just to be clear, because the volunteers that run the clubs social media don't support the chairman they have had the role taken away from them?
If that's the case it's outrageous. Especially given that the club's social media has never been used inappropriately.
Rowley has even managed to f**k up the one thing the club did well.
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So, just to be clear, because the volunteers that run the clubs social media don't support the chairman they have had the role taken away from them?
If that's the case it's outrageous. Especially given that the club's social media has never been used inappropriately.
Rowley has even managed to f**k up the one thing the club did well.
The best thing is, one of the volunteers that has been locked out was at work, and took no part in the demonstration.
An absolute joke. Childish, petulant and pointless. I thought the chairman was a decent person, just not a good chairman. It turns out I was wrong.
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What an utterly pathetic childish person he is proving to be. Just go with some grace fella.
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
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How many times in one season can you say to yourself 'this is a new low'?
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
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Facebook has been updated
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Facebook has been updated
Because they haven't bothered to remove access. Yet.
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My twiter today is the lads who walked out today are heroes
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
Well, he is not normally short of a word so let's see if he has the guts to come forward and explain the Clubs standpoint on this. This does seem a ridiculous reaction by our Board. The whole scene today shows the pettiness the Board have sunk to, from having these flags and advertisements extolling the Community Hall conveniently placed by the gate they opened for the walkout, to locking out the social media guys -- on the face of it because they don't agree with the Chairman.
I didn't walk out, I decided to stay and support the team but I respect the views and actions of those that did.
However, unless Bill or the Chairman can give a plausible explanation for this then I will reconsider my support.
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SS GB if true!
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I'm really sorry we couldn't provide our usual text updates for you all.
As of yet, I haven't been contacted by the Club regarding this situation and I'll be speaking with the relevant people before posting further on here.
Once again I do apologise and I hope as many of you managed to tune in to Radio Robins as possible.
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
When you say "midway through our coverage", were you tweeting about the walkout at the time?
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Why is the chairman personally getting involved in a part of the club that he holds no responsibility for?
Under the strategic reviews plan, all communication is signed off by Bill Waterson. The chairman is now supposed to hold no power over these decisions.
Yet another sign that the Strategic Review was an attempt to cement his own position and the club had absolutely no intention of committing to it.
Five year plan? It's already been discarded less than 5 weeks later.
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
When you say "midway through our coverage", were you tweeting about the walkout at the time?
56 minutes in. Three tweets, one mentioning people leaving, one clarifying (via John Laidlars updates) it was in protest, one letting people know numbers after a direct ask.
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
When you say "midway through our coverage", were you tweeting about the walkout at the time?
56 minutes in. Three tweets, one mentioning people leaving, one clarifying (via John Laidlars updates) it was in protest, one letting people know numbers
Thanks for the clarification.
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Everybody knows I don't do social media. But if it is proved that censorship has taken place I shall finally wash my hands of the club I've loved for 61 years.
I'm thoroughly disgusted.
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Why do we need a social media team anyway? We can all just hear the thoughts of MD after every game. In the last 24 hours he has not only retweeted yet another piece of dross about how fantastic he is, but he has just given us this update:
1200 there today fantastic support. We deserved the points today. On another day we score 4 or should i say @elliot_newby scores 4😂😂😂👍👍
I'm glad he can laugh about failing to win against Stalybridge!!! Top work MD!!!
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
I believe that Bill Waterson was unable to attend the Stalybridge match and I would be hugely surprised if he was the mastermind behind this peevish act.
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We need to hear the club's side before reaching any conclusion, but, on a day like today, there is bound to be suspicion of anything unusual, such as the free tickets been given out, and whether they were intended to dilute the protest.
There is nothing controversial about the Twitter posts (unlike a predictive text typo from Stalybridge which called Alan Goodall Goofball!), so I am left wondering if it's something as petty as trying to make it harder for those who left early to follow what was going on in the game, not that much did.
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Everybody knows I don't do social media. But if it is proved that censorship has taken place I shall finally wash my hands of the club I've loved for 61 years.
I'm thoroughly disgusted.
Totally agree. I've watched and loved this club for 36 years as you know Romeo but my hands will be as clean as yours if this is proved to be true.
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Bill will set us straight on this, over to you Bill In Bill we trust
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We need to hear the club's side before reaching any conclusion, but, on a day like today, there is bound to be suspicion of anything unusual, such as the free tickets been given out, and whether they were intended to dilute the protest.
There is nothing controversial about the Twitter posts (unlike a predictive text typo from Stalybridge which called Alan Goodall Goofball!), so I am left wondering if it's something as petty as trying to make it harder for those who left early to follow what was going on in the game, not that much did.
I was aware of the free tickets a couple of weeks ago as a result of correspondence following the presentation. That was BEFORE the walkout was announced. There's plenty wrong over this whole issue, but the free tickets should be dismissed from the picture.
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Okay, fair enough. I am happy to withdraw that.
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Just to clarify and summarize so far:
Jack Jolly had a conversation with Bill Waterman prior to today which involved the topic of today's planned walkout by fans.
The details of the conversation can't be shared by Jack, understandably, however he did let Bill know members of the social media team and club mascot had intended to take part.
Nothing was said after that conversation on this topic between club and social media team.
During the game today, and I followed this almost by the minute, the social media team made reference to the protest 20 minutes into the game stating that the clubs official updates included reference to a protest. There then followed a couple of tweets responding to Ben Collins (journalist) and his blog after direct questions about the protest ('were there not many?' and 'does it mean they won't come back in?'). The tweets were straight forward objective responses, which as I type are still there.
Can Jack/social media team/club officials confirm these are the facts please? We're any tweets deleted today from the club official twitter?
For the sake of all concerned I just think it's best we have the facts laid bare and make out judgements based on that. The truth behind all this and the nature of those facts will have a big influence on people's opinions of the club. Let's make sure it's all honest.
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Jack Jolly had a conversation with Bill Waterman prior to today which involved the topic of today's planned walkout by fans.
----- Yes, Bill phoned me on his commute home. We spoke for 2 hours on the walkout, the future of the club, potential new strategies, and the communication structure of the club -----
The details of the conversation can't be shared by Jack, understandably, however he did let Bill know members of the social media team and club mascot had intended to take part.
----- The opening discussions were deemed 'off the record' and towards the end got more general - however, not knowing where the line was drawn in being off the record, I'd rather not put things out in the public domain. But yes, mascot, social media team were considering and likely to take part. After that conversation that was the most positive I've been about the club in a while and I was convinced we might actually make progress going forward.
Nothing was said after that conversation on this topic between club and social media team.
---- I havent heard from Bill since that phone call, or Grahame - bar one email discussing an email newsletter template design system ------
During the game today, and I followed this almost by the minute, the social media team made reference to the protest 20 minutes into the game stating that the clubs official updates included reference to a protest. There then followed a couple of tweets responding to Ben Collins (journalist) and his blog after direct questions about the protest ('were there not many?' and 'does it mean they won't come back in?'). The tweets were straight forward objective responses, which as I type are still there.
----- Nothing was deleted. We responded once to that Ben Collins, as far as I am aware, unless anyone else went back to him ------
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I think this fiasco will do GR more harm than the protest itself. What a wretched, petty, irresponsible and idiotic reaction. Will he be sacking John Ladler too for daring to describe things that are happening at the game?
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Any chance the actual lads who normally run the twitter can come on and let us know exactly what happened?
I'd also suggest a club official give their side if they can.
Another sad day for all of us.
There is supposed to be a new chain of command from communication with Bill Waterson.
The walkout was discussed by myself and Bill and I can't repeat what was said but he was made aware that many people including the club mascot and some of the social media team would do so.
Midway through our coverage we were locked out.
I believe that Bill Waterson was unable to attend the Stalybridge match and I would be hugely surprised if he was the mastermind behind this peevish act.
He wasn't cult. My point being Bill heads up communication, and a decision clearly made without his say
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Twitter back up and running
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Who is doing the twitter updates now
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Who is doing the twitter updates now
Andrew Flynn has been re-assigned the new password.
Not sure whether Jacque has.
I have not.
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Who is doing the twitter updates now
Andrew Flynn has been re-assigned the new password.
Not sure whether Jacque has.
I have not.
is the password #thriving ?
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And still we here nothing from Bill Waterson?
An explanation for this fiasco would be good
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And still we here nothing from Bill Waterson?
An explanation for this fiasco would be good
The whole fiasco or just the social media ? 😂
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And still we here nothing from Bill Waterson?
An explanation for this fiasco would be good
The whole fiasco or just the social media ? 😂
There is a valid reason why Bill has yet to comment on yesterday or the programme article or the forum.
I have spoken to Bill this morning and I'm sure when he gets the opportunity, he will take the opportunity to make a statement on the issues.
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And still we here nothing from Bill Waterson?
An explanation for this fiasco would be good
The whole fiasco or just the social media ? 😂
There is a valid reason why Bill has yet to comment on yesterday or the programme article or the forum.
I have spoken to Bill this morning and I'm sure when he gets the opportunity, he will take the opportunity to make a statement on the issues.
I look forward to it, a lot hinges on it. I appreciate Bill is a busy man.
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Can't really follow this thread. How can a password be changed on an account when a user is logged in?
Tweets went out until the 56th minute I think, so what happened then? Someone was logged in, using their password.
Baffled by technology...
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Now I've read the tweets I'm not surprised access was pulled. Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda and intent on using an official communication channel to support the protest and its agenda.
If you'd been on stage the hook would have been coming out to yank you off.
If this was a business (which it is) you'd be looking at a disciplinary. You can't operate in an official or semi official capacity and diss the product.
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Twitter back up and running
Not completely true. I was handed the new password late last night and used it to update the account with full time score and a link to the match report which includes the attendance figure (league requirement.)
I'm currently considering my position following yesterday's events and won't be providing any content in the mean time.
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Now I've read the tweets I'm not surprised access was pulled. Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda and intent on using an official communication channel to support the protest and its agenda.
If you'd been on stage the hook would have been coming out to yank you off.
If this was a business (which it is) you'd be looking at a disciplinary. You can't operate in an official or semi official capacity and diss the product.
I may be missing something, but I can't see anything offensive or even "anti-establishment" in the tweets.
There was a walk out, numerous other people supported it, and the game was quiet subsequently. They are all neutral and accurate statements which I have paraphrased rather than repeated word for word.
Genuine question - is the 'problem' in one of these tweets or elsewhere?
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Now I've read the tweets I'm not surprised access was pulled. Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda and intent on using an official communication channel to support the protest and its agenda.
If you'd been on stage the hook would have been coming out to yank you off.
If this was a business (which it is) you'd be looking at a disciplinary. You can't operate in an official or semi official capacity and diss the product.
Untrue. The Twitter account provided impartial coverage of events taking place within the ground during the time of the game. There is clearly no agenda within the updates as they are merely factual statements.
If you find there to be an agenda in what you've read, then I suggest you feel the same way about the text updates on the club's official website? They made mention of the events before anything was put on Twitter.
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Now I've read the tweets I'm not surprised access was pulled. Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda and intent on using an official communication channel to support the protest and its agenda.
If you'd been on stage the hook would have been coming out to yank you off.
If this was a business (which it is) you'd be looking at a disciplinary. You can't operate in an official or semi official capacity and diss the product.
which tweet do you think was out of order ?
I couldn't see anything out of order ?
Radio robins covered it at 15 minutes stating around 25 walked out and it was then noted it was quiet after
Should they be punished as well ?
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It was also mentioned on the match day updates so maybe you want them stopped too Cheshire Cat?
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Now I've read the tweets I'm not surprised access was pulled. Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda and intent on using an official communication channel to support the protest and its agenda.
If you'd been on stage the hook would have been coming out to yank you off.
If this was a business (which it is) you'd be looking at a disciplinary. You can't operate in an official or semi official capacity and diss the product.
Which tweets are you referring to??
The only ones I have seen are factual. In reference to the protest movement, there was one tweet reporting the inclusion of the protest movement leaving the ground on the website. This was tweeted 5 minutes after the event and inclusion on the matchday update page. As above, it was also covered on Radio Robins.
I do find it extremely hard, actually implausible, to come anywhere near to concluding "Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda".
Many people would like to know why the service was pulled from some clearly avid Altrincham supporters.
Instead of trying to build bridges, this just seems to be further alienating supporters.
We know that our Chairman has read and posted on here in the past. But yet, there is no comment from the club.
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Although I didn't see anything overly untoward in the tweets I think I can understand that having people in the social media team wanting the chairman to resign is a bit problematic for the board.
But that's the sadness of the situation, the people unhappy with the chairman aren't Johnny come latelys or people who just want to moan and blame people (no one is enjoying this), they're actually long standing loyal and passionate supporters so there will be a number who are also volunteers.
As such if you start being heavy handed with them then very soon you'll have avreduced fan base.
Maybe that would be easier for the board but as guardians of the club I think I'd just take the hint to be honest...
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Now I've read the tweets I'm not surprised access was pulled. Whoever was tweeting was clearly tweeting with an anti establishment agenda and intent on using an official communication channel to support the protest and its agenda.
If you'd been on stage the hook would have been coming out to yank you off.
If this was a business (which it is) you'd be looking at a disciplinary. You can't operate in an official or semi official capacity and diss the product.
Untrue. The Twitter account provided impartial coverage of events taking place within the ground during the time of the game. There is clearly no agenda within the updates as they are merely factual statements.
If you find there to be an agenda in what you've read, then I suggest you feel the same way about the text updates on the club's official website? They made mention of the events before anything was put on Twitter.
The text dates were informative and stuck to the action on the pitch with a mention of the protest group leaving. The tweets on the other hand did report the facts but mostly with regard to what was going on off the pitch. There were many attempts on the Stalybridge goal during the first half. By half time their end of the ground was churned up which is a good indicator of where the action was but you'd not guess that from the tweets.
What turned out to be the parting shot "Quiet atmosphere, quiet game" I'd disagree with on both counts. People who stayed behind albeit not singing songs but there was a lot of encouragement and clapping by people who probably don't normally. Both teams tried hard to win. Early on we were stimied by a referee who refused to see the holding and shirt tugging but in the second half both teams had plenty of chances and really wanted a result.
So for me it was a case of damage limitation.
We'll have to wait and see if Bill wants to shed any more light on the situation.
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I don't remember many attempts on either goal - particularly in the first half.
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I don't remember many attempts on either goal - particularly in the first half.
Nowt wrong with your memory. Remember when we had a footballing team?
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The text dates were informative and stuck to the action on the pitch with a mention of the protest group leaving. The tweets on the other hand did report the facts but mostly with regard to what was going on off the pitch. There were many attempts on the Stalybridge goal during the first half. By half time their end of the ground was churned up which is a good indicator of where the action was but you'd not guess that from the tweets.
What turned out to be the parting shot "Quiet atmosphere, quiet game" I'd disagree with on both counts. People who stayed behind albeit not singing songs but there was a lot of encouragement and clapping by people who probably don't normally. Both teams tried hard to win. Early on we were stimied by a referee who refused to see the holding and shirt tugging but in the second half both teams had plenty of chances and really wanted a result.
So for me it was a case of damage limitation.
We'll have to wait and see if Bill wants to shed any more light on the situation.
There were 17 tweets of which 1 was regarding the protest movement "According to our website, a protest movement leaves the ground". A very neutral tweet.
Compared to the matchday update of "15: A number of Alty fans (about two dozen it seems) leave terrace in protest at chairman". Which one in your view is more neutral??
4 out of the 17 were about atmosphere, of which 3 also included updates about the match.
so mostly, 15 out of 17 tweets were about the match.
As there was no damage to limit, it all seems very bizarre.
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It's getting like f***ing North Korea. It doesn't particularly matter what was tweeted, provided it was neither personally defamatory, or libellous. Neither seems to be the case.
Quite simply, the "power that be" (all one of him ?) appears to have suppressed dialogue because he wants to save face.
Perhaps he'd like to clarify what happened. If he's in the right and I'm not being fair to him, I'm man enough to apologise and shake his hand. At this moment I'm not holding my breath.
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So you can report facts, but only the ones that suit, and only if you pledge allegiance.
What a sorry state of affairs this club has become.
I'll make sure I do my best to be involved in any future protest, and hopefully so will many more.
It's now clear the club is being run like a tyrants government. Not run like a football club that's for sure, nor a business and nor a community spirited social experiment.
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Rowley Out.
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Twitter back up and running
Not completely true. I was handed the new password late last night and used it to update the account with full time score and a link to the match report which includes the attendance figure (league requirement.)
I'm currently considering my position following yesterday's events and won't be providing any content in the mean time.
You and your mates have done a fine job with the twitter account. Absolutely nothing wrong with the tweets yesterday, yet the treatment received is absolutely disgusting. Rowley out.
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During the game today, and I followed this almost by the minute, the social media team made reference to the protest 20 minutes into the game stating that the clubs official updates included reference to a protest. There then followed a couple of tweets responding to Ben Collins (journalist) and his blog after direct questions about the protest ('were there not many?' and 'does it mean they won't come back in?'). The tweets were straight forward objective responses, which as I type are still there.
----- Nothing was deleted. We responded once to that Ben Collins, as far as I am aware, unless anyone else went back to him ------
If you were at the game yourself it seemed odd that you tweeted 'According to our website, a protest movement leaves the ground'. That's why I asked if you noticed it.
Didn't expect you to reply so soon so cheers for that. Your replies merely stated the facts so don't know how anyone could suspect an agenda, certainly not from those tweets.
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"it was well applauded and supported by a sizeable number" this was tweeted to a journalist.
This is not a true reflection of what happened but is what you tweeted.
Your job is to report what happened not put ur own "sexed up" version.
One person clapped in the main stand while there was an audible chorus of cheerio.
More Stalybridge fans clapped the 24 who walked out than alty fans.
This is just a side show to hide the fact that the protest was a resounding embarrassing failure
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Absolute rubbish, the Popular Side and Golf Road End applauded. Don't distort the facts to suit your own argument. You sound like a member of the Board.
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Truth hurts Thriving, keep acting like child who hasn't got what he wants.
Facts are that less than 25 people walked out.
The silent majority of which I have been for 18 years don't support you lot on this, you need to accept this and move on.
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I for one have supported the Rowley for there efforts in recent times , I haven't been much this season due to affordability and having young kids on a saturday , but after saturdays debacle I will not return to watch alty till the chairman steps down , I was one of the silent majority as well now after the shenanigans on Saturday I'm disgusted at how the club treated the social media team who have always acted with dignity whilst volunteering and doing there bit for the club I love , shame on them and shame on whom ever agrees with there media control.
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Truth hurts Thriving, keep acting like child who hasn't got what he wants.
Facts are that less than 25 people walked out.
The silent majority of which I have been for 18 years don't support you lot on this, you need to accept this and move on.
I think you'll find I didn't walk out nor did I support it beforehand. The Chairman will know exactly how many walked out, as he had someone counting but I can assure you there were supporters clapping in the Golf Road End. Those are the facts.
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"it was well applauded and supported by a sizeable number" this was tweeted to a journalist.
This is not a true reflection of what happened but is what you tweeted.
Your job is to report what happened not put ur own "sexed up" version.
One person clapped in the main stand while there was an audible chorus of cheerio.
More Stalybridge fans clapped the 24 who walked out than alty fans.
This is just a side show to hide the fact that the protest was a resounding embarrassing failure
This is a quote from the Non-League Daily, who were in attendance:
"A reception of applause from some sections of supporters could be heard around the ground, with a number of Celtic supporters joining in".
Sort of more than just one in the main stand clapping then.
18 years, is that it?? Ive been going for 27 years. Most of who I know are in support of the need for change.
We are all entitled to opinions, yet, there have been huge failings made on this Chairman's watch. The continued failure to communicate with supporters is high up there.
Its time for a fresh face to be brought in and repair the damage done. Otherwise, we'll end up like Northwich Victoria.
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But our guy said it was well applauded and supported, which was inaccurate.
Sorry because you are probably older and supported longer does that mean ur a better supporter and love the club more?
I felt most sorry for the people who had to pick up the protest leaflets left on the floor of which there were many. No respect for the volunteer staff
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So you think Rowleys doing a good job then?
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But our guy said it was well applauded and supported, which was inaccurate.
Sorry because you are probably older and supported longer does that mean ur a better supporter and love the club more?
I felt most sorry for the people who had to pick up the protest leaflets left on the floor of which there were many. No respect for the volunteer staff
certainly silent as but for the protesters there would've been no atmosphere in the first 15 minutes,can't comment on rest of the game
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But our guy said it was well applauded and supported, which was inaccurate.
Sorry because you are probably older and supported longer does that mean ur a better supporter and love the club more?
I felt most sorry for the people who had to pick up the protest leaflets left on the floor of which there were many. No respect for the volunteer staff
Protest leaflets were handed to fans not known to be involved in the group beforehand. The protestors that joined from other areas actively carried these and waved them in the chairmans direction as they left.
I wouldn't go about blaming the protestors for littering. It's like suggesting Coca Cola should be blamed for all of their cans left on the terraces afterwards.
Let's not throw about accusations of not respecting the volunteer staff after the social media debacle, shall we?
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But our guy said it was well applauded and supported, which was inaccurate.
Sorry because you are probably older and supported longer does that mean ur a better supporter and love the club more?
I felt most sorry for the people who had to pick up the protest leaflets left on the floor of which there were many. No respect for the volunteer staff
No respect for volunteer staff? In your first post you defended the club after they showed no respect to volunteer staff. Make your mind up!!
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But our guy said it was well applauded and supported, which was inaccurate.
Is it?? depends on your definition of well doesnt it?? Does well = applause heard around the ground??
Sorry because you are probably older and supported longer does that mean ur a better supporter and love the club more?
Not at all. You were the first to put in a year of supporting with your group. My group, having experienced the good, the bad and the ugly, seem to have had enough.
Its rather sad really.
I felt most sorry for the people who had to pick up the protest leaflets left on the floor of which there were many. No respect for the volunteer staff
Quite astonished at this one really. Another swipe at our supporters??
Couldnt people have just binned them, or politely declined the leaflet if they didnt agree??
People involved in the protest have volunteered over the years, myself included. Seems like an own goal by yourself having no respect for legitimate protest at an awful time in our proud history.
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
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Which member of the Rowley clan is this "dingo" person ? Pathetic attempt to swim against the tide.
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
If you have read anything on here, you'll understand that no one is knocking what Rowley has done. Clearly, he is passionate about Altrincham.
But you have also hit on the main element of being a Chairman. He cannot rub people up the wrong way. He is there to lead and facilitate. To engage in the community, which does include all supporters. Not just the ones he likes.
In my job, I deal with lots of unhappy people who have been annoyed with service delivery. Because of my understanding of the issues, i try dam hard to find common ground and solve the issue. I have turned many unhappy people around, and created many great friendships as a result.
Because of his arrogance and inability to communicate with supporters, he has lost and will continue to lose many long-term faithful supporters.
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
Probably because it wasn't heard. I heard one person shout "part-timers" and that was it, it was ignored. Ours was a polite protest.
The applause from more people was a truer representation than some quiet cheerios from the mainstand.
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
Got pictures to back it up then? or another load of fake news?
You are making yourself look rather silly now.....
Why would the official twitter feed mock its own fans?
to say it was "well applauded" is quite innocent and the similar to that reported in the non league daily.
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Will there be any twitter updates of the game tomorrow night ?
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Why let the truth come in the way of a good story.
You guys remind me of Nicola sturgeon and her obsession with an independent Scotland even though her own countrymen have voted against she keeps roaring against the dying of the light.
Based on Saturday in your heart of hearts you must have been really disappointed by the numbers who actively took part, its time you lot let go and supported the majority.
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So you think the majority are happy with the current state of the Club, are you?
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Majority my arse. And one RAGES against the dying of the light.....it's getting increasingly dark at this club.
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Incidentally Sturgeon will get her way eventually, Scotland will have a referendum within 2 years and they will leave the UK. It's only a matter of time before your mate has to leave the Board, to ensure the Club doesn't sink even further.
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Incidentally Sturgeon will get her way eventually, Scotland will have a referendum within 2 years and they will leave the UK. It's only a matter of time before your mate has to leave the Board, to ensure the Club doesn't sink even further.
She will and they will.
Fingers crossed Chairman Row Lee goes very soon.
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Out of interest did you get a refund on the buffet
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Out of interest did you get a refund on the buffet
Out of interest did you get your eyes checked?. Anybody who cannot see the devastation that Chairman Row Lee is causing needs glasses.
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Why let the truth come in the way of a good story.
You guys remind me of Nicola sturgeon and her obsession with an independent Scotland even though her own countrymen have voted against she keeps roaring against the dying of the light.
Based on Saturday in your heart of hearts you must have been really disappointed by the numbers who actively took part, its time you lot let go and supported the majority.
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and it's a sad state of affairs all round. I'm not sure you genuinely believe the stuff you've been writing but, assuming you do, my fear is that financially wise in the next year or two you will have real and present reason to fault the man.
We won't be having the income from any decent cup runs or home fixtures against Tranmere or Grimsby, in fact not even Stockport Salford and fcum. You'll have a devasted fan base and an empty CSH.
The truth is out there on the pitch mate, not in the CSH or the tatton, not the free tickets or the leaflets, not in the coziness of the club office or the arguments on this forum but out there on the pitch.
The worst Alty team I've ever seen and a rapidly shrinking alienated fan base heading towards step 7 football.
Take whichever side you like. But the truth is there.
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Why let the truth come in the way of a good story.
Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten!
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Will there be any twitter updates of the game tomorrow night ?
There will be twitter updates. They will not be up to the recent high standard of twitter coverage, however will keep fans informed of events during the game.
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Will there be any twitter updates of the game tomorrow night ?
There will be twitter updates. They probably will not be up to the recent high standard of twitter coverage, however will keep fans informed of events during the game.
Thanks Brian
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
Sorry mate not a family member or close friend, just part of the majority who disagree with your groups agenda
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
Sorry mate not a family member or close friend, just part of the majority who disagree with your groups agenda
Feel free to argue the case for the status quo. Good luck, you'll need it.
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
Sorry mate not a family member or close friend, just part of the majority who disagree with your groups agenda
Dingo's became extinct many years ago,the way Rowley FC is going we will be next.
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and it's a sad state of affairs all round. I'm not sure you genuinely believe the stuff you've been writing but, assuming you do, my fear is that financially wise in the next year or two you will have real and present reason to fault the man.
We won't be having the income from any decent cup runs or home fixtures against Tranmere or Grimsby, in fact not even Stockport Salford and fcum. You'll have a devasted fan base and an empty CSH.
The truth is out there on the pitch mate, not in the CSH or the tatton, not the free tickets or the leaflets, not in the coziness of the club office or the arguments on this forum but out there on the pitch.
The worst Alty team I've ever seen and a rapidly shrinking alienated fan base heading towards step 7 football.
Take whichever side you like. But the truth is there.
Tell me what part of what I have written I don't really believe.
Ur the one who grossly miscalculated how the csh was financed.
The csh is our goose the lays the golden egg. Have you ever been down on a saturday morning and seen how many kids are playin footy wearing alty tops. They and their families are the clubs future on and off the pitch. Our future youth team players etc. I couldn't even book the csh for a b day party 3 months in advance. Who says we cant have a similar cup run,agree that we will be hit short term by the glue league.
For the first time in a long time the team is going in the right direction , we are not where I want or hoped we would be but for the first time in a while i see a light which is big thanks to the new management
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
Sorry mate not a family member or close friend, just part of the majority who disagree with your groups agenda
Dingo's became extinct many years ago,the way Rowley FC is going we will be next.
Dingo's aren't extinct!!!!
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For the first time in a long time the team is going in the right direction , we are not where I want or hoped we would be but for the first time in a while i see a light which is big thanks to the new management
What? Down? To the lowest level in the club's proud history?
We've had a few half decent results against completely dire opposition. Is this what you constitute as progress?
I was not there on Saturday, but was listening on RR and the applause was clearly audible and quite loud (heard nobody mocking them).
You are indeed entitled to your opinion like everyone else, but what is an inescapable fact is that large numbers of the clubs hardcore long standing support are leaving the club and will not return until there is change. The dictatorship must end. There were many there who supported the action, but di not want to walk out, there were even more who weren't there as they've already stopped going (including a sizeable proportion of season ticket holders).
There's no point in having a shiny new CSH filled with mother and baby groups and god knows what else if there's no longer a football team of any note in existence. It is Altrincham FOOTBALL Club after all and not Rowley's Community Showcase.
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
Sorry mate not a family member or close friend, just part of the majority who disagree with your groups agenda
Dingo's became extinct many years ago,the way Rowley FC is going we will be next.
Dingo's aren't extinct!!!!
Its Dodo's of course that are extinct,Dingo's aren't far off but never let the facts ruin it 😉
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Dingo's aren't extinct!!!!
No, but like Altrincham FC, they are in severe danger of it.
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Why let the truth come in the way of a good story.
Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten!
Trump is
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To be fair to dingo, the applause was in pockets. I suppose it depends on where you were standing. I looked around me as the protesting fans walked by and it was rather odd to see clusters of supporters applauding and other clusters silent. Where I was stood, beneath the gantry, most people were applauding. To say it was just one or two is a bit disingenuous to say the least, but like I say, if you were stood in a cluster not applauding it may have seemed there was a lack of support for the protest.
Dingo, I respect your opinion mate, Lord knows I'm anything but a 'follower' in life, but I'm telling you, our fanbase is completely divided and that's bloody awful for our club, whether you're pro or anti Rowley.
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There's no point in having a shiny new CSH filled with mother and baby groups and god knows what else if there's no longer a football team of any note in existence. It is Altrincham FOOTBALL Club after all and not Rowley's Community Showcase.
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For the first time in a long time the team is going in the right direction , we are not where I want or hoped we would be but for the first time in a while i see a light which is big thanks to the new management
What? Down? To the lowest level in the club's proud history?
We've had a few half decent results against completely dire opposition. Is this what you constitute as progress?
I was not there on Saturday, but was listening on RR and the applause was clearly audible and quite loud (heard nobody mocking them).
You are indeed entitled to your opinion like everyone else, but what is an inescapable fact is that large numbers of the clubs hardcore long standing support are leaving the club and will not return until there is change. The dictatorship must end. There were many there who supported the action, but di not want to walk out, there were even more who weren't there as they've already stopped going (including a sizeable proportion of season ticket holders).
There's no point in having a shiny new CSH filled with mother and baby groups and god knows what else if there's no longer a football team of any note in existence. It is Altrincham FOOTBALL Club after all and not Rowley's Community Showcase.
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Yes the team is on the way up and I'm talking about performances not results, we look solid at present but could do with a Colin little up front.
Do you know where the applauding away fans were stood because of the rain?
Whether intentional or not you come across as very sexist when talking about the csh and the people who use it
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and it's a sad state of affairs all round. I'm not sure you genuinely believe the stuff you've been writing but, assuming you do, my fear is that financially wise in the next year or two you will have real and present reason to fault the man.
We won't be having the income from any decent cup runs or home fixtures against Tranmere or Grimsby, in fact not even Stockport Salford and fcum. You'll have a devasted fan base and an empty CSH.
The truth is out there on the pitch mate, not in the CSH or the tatton, not the free tickets or the leaflets, not in the coziness of the club office or the arguments on this forum but out there on the pitch.
The worst Alty team I've ever seen and a rapidly shrinking alienated fan base heading towards step 7 football.
Take whichever side you like. But the truth is there.
Tell me what part of what I have written I don't really believe.
Ur the one who grossly miscalculated how the csh was financed.
The csh is our goose the lays the golden egg. Have you ever been down on a saturday morning and seen how many kids are playin footy wearing alty tops. They and their families are the clubs future on and off the pitch. Our future youth team players etc. I couldn't even book the csh for a b day party 3 months in advance. Who says we cant have a similar cup run,agree that we will be hit short term by the glue league.
For the first time in a long time the team is going in the right direction , we are not where I want or hoped we would be but for the first time in a while i see a light which is big thanks to the new management
Sorry, and how have I miscalculated how the CSH was financed?
Judging by this year they'll only be the future until they have an opinion at which point they'll be disregarded.
I look forward to them turning down yts places at league clubs to join our evo stik youth team on account of having a shirt, thank god they won't get tempted by Utd or City.
The club gets nothing except bar takings as you well know, and the CSH is not for profit. I look forward to the golden eggs though, although it may take a while as there'll be reduced central funding and we won't be in a position to lend it £41k anytime soon. We can probably continue to let them use it rent free that's about it.
On paper, I love the idea and I wish I had your belief (and that of forum ranted, I really do. Alas, realism sucks.
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Yes the team is on the way up and I'm talking about performances not results, we look solid at present but could do with a Colin little up front.
Do you know where the applauding away fans were stood because of the rain?
Whether intentional or not you come across as very sexist when talking about the csh and the people who use it
Using the words straws and clutching put together a well known phrase.
Oh dear lord, sexist? Pmsl, I could have picked walking football or any community related activity, there wasn't even a hint of sexism in there. The point was, as you well know, that it doesn't matter how successful the CSH is if we don't have a football team worthy of the name any more.
We have played the worst teams in the league over the last few weeks, so good luck with your progress.
There are many who were stood on that side who applauded and saw others applaud, but of course they are obviously all making it up, it couldn't possibly be true if it contradicted your world view.
LOL....you've made my night, I always thought Dingoes were peculiar creatures.
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and it's a sad state of affairs all round. I'm not sure you genuinely believe the stuff you've been writing but, assuming you do, my fear is that financially wise in the next year or two you will have real and present reason to fault the man.
We won't be having the income from any decent cup runs or home fixtures against Tranmere or Grimsby, in fact not even Stockport Salford and fcum. You'll have a devasted fan base and an empty CSH.
The truth is out there on the pitch mate, not in the CSH or the tatton, not the free tickets or the leaflets, not in the coziness of the club office or the arguments on this forum but out there on the pitch.
The worst Alty team I've ever seen and a rapidly shrinking alienated fan base heading towards step 7 football.
Take whichever side you like. But the truth is there.
Tell me what part of what I have written I don't really believe.
Ur the one who grossly miscalculated how the csh was financed.
The csh is our goose the lays the golden egg. Have you ever been down on a saturday morning and seen how many kids are playin footy wearing alty tops. They and their families are the clubs future on and off the pitch. Our future youth team players etc. I couldn't even book the csh for a b day party 3 months in advance. Who says we cant have a similar cup run,agree that we will be hit short term by the glue league.
For the first time in a long time the team is going in the right direction , we are not where I want or hoped we would be but for the first time in a while i see a light which is big thanks to the new management
Sorry, and how have I miscalculated how the CSH was financed?
Judging by this year they'll only be the future until they have an opinion at which point they'll be disregarded.
I look forward to them turning down yts places at league clubs to join our evo stik youth team on account of having a shirt, thank god they won't get tempted by Utd or City.
The club gets nothing except bar takings as you well know, and the CSH is not for profit. I look forward to the golden eggs though, although it may take a while as there'll be reduced central funding and we won't be in a position to lend it £41k anytime soon. We can probably continue to let them use it rent free that's about it.
On paper, I love the idea and I wish I had your belief (and that of forum ranted, I really do. Alas, realism sucks.
You were called out at the recent review meeting by the man in charge of the figures who dispelled the dangerous guestamations you spread. Were you not at it, about 130 people were and it was shown live even recorded I think.
So according to you we are not financially well run?
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I think you're confusing me with someone else dingo, I was not at the review meeting. You can find the bits about the £41k and the rent free in black and white on the ccw if you so wish.
Whether we are financially well run will become more apparent in years to come without sales of players to Sunderland, runs to the FA cup 2nd rd, tv money for the Burton games, crowds of 2,000 3 or 4 times a season etc.
We aren't going to get wound up by HMRC this week no, although that is the bare minimum of compete you'd expect. We are however singularly failing to correlate any off pitch improvement onto on the field matters so it's much the same thing.
As I said, I love your viewpoint but you'll just have to forgive me for waiting to see it actually prove productive first. Crisis of faith and all that.
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Yes the team is on the way up and I'm talking about performances not results, we look solid at present but could do with a Colin little up front.
Do you know where the applauding away fans were stood because of the rain?
Whether intentional or not you come across as very sexist when talking about the csh and the people who use it
Using the words straws and clutching put together a well known phrase.
Oh dear lord, sexist? Pmsl, I could have picked walking football or any community related activity, there wasn't even a hint of sexism in there. The point was, as you well know, that it doesn't matter how successful the CSH is if we don't have a football team worthy of the name any more.
We have played the worst teams in the league over the last few weeks, so good luck with your progress.
There are many who were stood on that side who applauded and saw others applaud, but of course they are obviously all making it up, it couldn't possibly be true if it contradicted your world view.
LOL....you've made my night, I always thought Dingoes were peculiar creatures.
I have no idea how u can comment on something when you weren't even there, its embarrassing much like the protest.
In the first half I was sat in the main stand so I had a birds eye view of the action.
If it had really meant that much to people more than the 24 people I counted would have walked
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GR financially wise I cant fault the man
Choices of manager recently haven't been great and he gave neil young to much power.
To be fair i was at the meeting when Neil young was introduced and I and most fans present were happy and applauded what he had to say other than Scott leather has been left go. I think most people were happy that he promised to be more vocal with the fans than sinnott.
For me I just don't think GR comes across well and he rubs people up the wrong way unintentionally, I hear he is a good man and as I live near the ground the number of times I drive past late in the evening and you see him locking up you know he loves the club.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and it's a sad state of affairs all round. I'm not sure you genuinely believe the stuff you've been writing but, assuming you do, my fear is that financially wise in the next year or two you will have real and present reason to fault the man.
We won't be having the income from any decent cup runs or home fixtures against Tranmere or Grimsby, in fact not even Stockport Salford and fcum. You'll have a devasted fan base and an empty CSH.
The truth is out there on the pitch mate, not in the CSH or the tatton, not the free tickets or the leaflets, not in the coziness of the club office or the arguments on this forum but out there on the pitch.
The worst Alty team I've ever seen and a rapidly shrinking alienated fan base heading towards step 7 football.
Take whichever side you like. But the truth is there.
Tell me what part of what I have written I don't really believe.
Ur the one who grossly miscalculated how the csh was financed.
The csh is our goose the lays the golden egg. Have you ever been down on a saturday morning and seen how many kids are playin footy wearing alty tops. They and their families are the clubs future on and off the pitch. Our future youth team players etc. I couldn't even book the csh for a b day party 3 months in advance. Who says we cant have a similar cup run,agree that we will be hit short term by the glue league.
For the first time in a long time the team is going in the right direction , we are not where I want or hoped we would be but for the first time in a while i see a light which is big thanks to the new management
Sorry, and how have I miscalculated how the CSH was financed?
Judging by this year they'll only be the future until they have an opinion at which point they'll be disregarded.
I look forward to them turning down yts places at league clubs to join our evo stik youth team on account of having a shirt, thank god they won't get tempted by Utd or City.
The club gets nothing except bar takings as you well know, and the CSH is not for profit. I look forward to the golden eggs though, although it may take a while as there'll be reduced central funding and we won't be in a position to lend it £41k anytime soon. We can probably continue to let them use it rent free that's about it.
On paper, I love the idea and I wish I had your belief (and that of forum ranted, I really do. Alas, realism sucks.
You were called out at the recent review meeting by the man in charge of the figures who dispelled the dangerous guestamations you spread. Were you not at it, about 130 people were and it was shown live even recorded I think.
So according to you we are not financially well run?
Hope so cos we will need every source of revenue in the evo stick league. Remember teams bringing hundreds of fans? Well, all that's been lost under the leadership of Chairman Row Lee. It's about responsibility, and that is why I believe he should stand down.
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I think you're confusing me with someone else dingo, I was not at the review meeting. You can find the bits about the £41k and the rent free in black and white on the ccw if you so wish.
Whether we are financially well run will become more apparent in years to come without sales of players to Sunderland, runs to the FA cup 2nd rd, tv money for the Burton games, crowds of 2,000 3 or 4 times a season etc.
We aren't going to get wound up by HMRC this week no, although that is the bare minimum of compete you'd expect. We are however singularly failing to correlate any off pitch improvement onto on the field matters so it's much the same thing.
As I said, I love your viewpoint but you'll just have to forgive me for waiting to see it actually prove productive first. Crisis of faith and all that.
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I didnt think you were there as you wouldn't have written what you just wrote. The finance guy said ballers from this forum was talking nonsense about the financials of the club and he went indepth on where the money came for the csh. You should watch it or request the minutes, I don't like to see someone make themselves look foolish when info to the contrary is out their
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Yes the team is on the way up and I'm talking about performances not results, we look solid at present but could do with a Colin little up front.
Do you know where the applauding away fans were stood because of the rain?
Whether intentional or not you come across as very sexist when talking about the csh and the people who use it
Using the words straws and clutching put together a well known phrase.
Oh dear lord, sexist? Pmsl, I could have picked walking football or any community related activity, there wasn't even a hint of sexism in there. The point was, as you well know, that it doesn't matter how successful the CSH is if we don't have a football team worthy of the name any more.
We have played the worst teams in the league over the last few weeks, so good luck with your progress.
There are many who were stood on that side who applauded and saw others applaud, but of course they are obviously all making it up, it couldn't possibly be true if it contradicted your world view.
LOL....you've made my night, I always thought Dingoes were peculiar creatures.
I have no idea how u can comment on something when you weren't even there, its embarrassing much like the protest.
In the first half I was sat in the main stand so I had a birds eye view of the action.
If it had really meant that much to people more than the 24 people I counted would have walked
Carry on cherry picking your own truths Dingo, it must be a great source of comfort to you.
I know what I heard and I also know some of the people who have commented on the applause and trust their opinion.
Care to comment on the season ticket holders who no longer attend matches (along with many others)?
He lost it for me when he started putting unfounded allegations about supporters in the national press and then attempted to claim he was misquoted. When he appointed a family friend for an 'impartial' strategic review where anyone who had any sort of question that might be deemed tricky for GR had their speaking rights removed. This was the perfect opportunity for bridge building, but he chose to drive an even bigger wedge in there. The whole twittergate fiasco wasn't even a final straw as I had long since felt his position to be untenable.
We have a fractured support base and whether you care to admit to yourself or not, most of those who will now be staying away are the very people that have followed our team the length and breadth of the land, the sort of people that do volunteer in various ways, who have always dug deep when asked to, time and time again. So if it makes it cosier for you to think of the dissenters to be people who don't care about the club and have undertaken this course of action lightly, then so be it.
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
I think you're wasting your breath Brian. I understand some of the slightly more deranged dingoes have been fitted with blinkers for their own protection and this may explain his/her 'view'.
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
I have no doubt there is a division and I admire the 24 for their courage but if you honestly say to me are they more people in favour of the protestors view than against you are wrong. I don't think you believe that. I think more people probably applauded Tha i give credit for but the social media person did not reflect accurately events, he spun them to his own ends and he knows it deep down 2. Where I was sat I was about 3 meters from him
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Dingo. From where you were sitting in the main stand, how many people did you see walk towards the exit from the Golf Road end please? How many folk in the Golf Road did you see waving the 'Rowley Out' flyer?
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I personally know people who are for and against both the board and protestors. If I had to be completely honest with you I'd say that (pretty much like the Scottish referendum ironically) it's about 50-50.
You know it's not just about those who left, it's about those who are no longer coming anymore, it's about fewer season ticket sales and lower bar takings which will impact on our ability to get back up next season. That's all I care about to be honest, getting back up next season and i'm not sure Mr Rowley, however kind or hard-working he is, is the one who can unify the fans again.
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Well, I wasnt at the game.
Had I been, i would have walked.
Dingo, there are many more than just the 24. Perhaps not as vocal, but at least these 24 were still paying....
https://twitter.com/altrinchamfc/status/843120452432224256
How does that not accurately reflect events?
What about the below? This is what was being referenced by the twitter post:
"15: A number of Alty fans (about two dozen it seems) leave terrace in protest at chairman".
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I think you're confusing me with someone else dingo, I was not at the review meeting. You can find the bits about the £41k and the rent free in black and white on the ccw if you so wish.
Whether we are financially well run will become more apparent in years to come without sales of players to Sunderland, runs to the FA cup 2nd rd, tv money for the Burton games, crowds of 2,000 3 or 4 times a season etc.
We aren't going to get wound up by HMRC this week no, although that is the bare minimum of compete you'd expect. We are however singularly failing to correlate any off pitch improvement onto on the field matters so it's much the same thing.
As I said, I love your viewpoint but you'll just have to forgive me for waiting to see it actually prove productive first. Crisis of faith and all that.
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I didnt think you were there as you wouldn't have written what you just wrote. The finance guy said ballers from this forum was talking nonsense about the financials of the club and he went indepth on where the money came for the csh. You should watch it or request the minutes, I don't like to see someone make themselves look foolish when info to the contrary is out their
It's no problem mate, you don't look too foolish, even though you don't seem to know who the finance guy is (is he related to running man?). If in the meantime it turns out that club has never lent the CSH money or provided use of facilities rent free as stated on the community sides official accounts or the financial figures of the football club were not boosted by the sale of Duncan, tv money, FA cup prize money or some excellent crowds (largely one off affairs that we're not likely to see again I'm afraid) then I'll happily get you a pint at barwell/Coalville/mickleover sports next season.
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I personally know people who are for and against both the board and protestors. If I had to be completely honest with you I'd say that (pretty much like the Scottish referendum ironically) it's about 50-50.
You know it's not just about those who left, it's about those who are no longer coming anymore, it's about fewer season ticket sales and lower bar takings which will impact on our ability to get back up next season. That's all I care about to be honest, getting back up next season and i'm not sure Mr Rowley, however kind or hard-working he is, is the one who can unify the fans again.
another truth is that if we were winning the league or challenging for promotion nobody would be demonstrating about dreadful management appointments, chronic PR foul ups and passwords being changed.
I suspect the vast majority can live with a lot of crap, in exchange for success on the pitch.
Sadly we have a lot of crap and abject failure on the pitch.
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Thriving
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Well, I wasnt at the game.
Had I been, i would have walked.
Dingo, there are many more than just the 24. Perhaps not as vocal, but at least these 24 were still paying....
https://twitter.com/altrinchamfc/status/843120452432224256
How does that not accurately reflect events?
What about the below? This is what was being referenced by the twitter post:
"15: A number of Alty fans (about two dozen it seems) leave terrace in protest at chairman".
That is not the problem quote. Go back a bit on this tread
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Well, I wasnt at the game.
Had I been, i would have walked.
Dingo, there are many more than just the 24. Perhaps not as vocal, but at least these 24 were still paying....
https://twitter.com/altrinchamfc/status/843120452432224256
How does that not accurately reflect events?
What about the below? This is what was being referenced by the twitter post:
"15: A number of Alty fans (about two dozen it seems) leave terrace in protest at chairman".
That is not the problem quote. Go back a bit on this tread
can you be very specific in identifying what you beleive the 'problem quote' is please? This thread is long, too long to try and guess what's going on in your mind. Thanks.
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I think you're confusing me with someone else dingo, I was not at the review meeting. You can find the bits about the £41k and the rent free in black and white on the ccw if you so wish.
Whether we are financially well run will become more apparent in years to come without sales of players to Sunderland, runs to the FA cup 2nd rd, tv money for the Burton games, crowds of 2,000 3 or 4 times a season etc.
We aren't going to get wound up by HMRC this week no, although that is the bare minimum of compete you'd expect. We are however singularly failing to correlate any off pitch improvement onto on the field matters so it's much the same thing.
As I said, I love your viewpoint but you'll just have to forgive me for waiting to see it actually prove productive first. Crisis of faith and all that.
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I didnt think you were there as you wouldn't have written what you just wrote. The finance guy said ballers from this forum was talking nonsense about the financials of the club and he went indepth on where the money came for the csh. You should watch it or request the minutes, I don't like to see someone make themselves look foolish when info to the contrary is out their
It's no problem mate, you don't look too foolish, even though you don't seem to know who the finance guy is (is he related to running man?). If in the meantime it turns out that club has never lent the CSH money or provided use of facilities rent free as stated on the community sides official accounts or the financial figures of the football club were not boosted by the sale of Duncan, tv money, FA cup prize money or some excellent crowds (largely one off affairs that we're not likely to see again I'm afraid) then I'll happily get you a pint at barwell/Coalville/mickleover sports next season.
Never was the saying a little knowledge is a dangerous thing more appropriate
Seriously mate watch the review before you comment further on the financials, u get taking apart.
Cant believe no one told you, probably didnt have the heart....
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This is becoming the most boring thread of the year so far.
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That is not the problem quote. Go back a bit on this tread
If your reffering to the whole 17 tweets this has been covered by me. Go back in the thread.
If its not about the reference to the protest, what the hell is the issue?
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This is becoming the most boring thread of the year so far.
a bit like this season 😂😂
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I think you're confusing me with someone else dingo, I was not at the review meeting. You can find the bits about the £41k and the rent free in black and white on the ccw if you so wish.
Whether we are financially well run will become more apparent in years to come without sales of players to Sunderland, runs to the FA cup 2nd rd, tv money for the Burton games, crowds of 2,000 3 or 4 times a season etc.
We aren't going to get wound up by HMRC this week no, although that is the bare minimum of compete you'd expect. We are however singularly failing to correlate any off pitch improvement onto on the field matters so it's much the same thing.
As I said, I love your viewpoint but you'll just have to forgive me for waiting to see it actually prove productive first. Crisis of faith and all that.
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I didnt think you were there as you wouldn't have written what you just wrote. The finance guy said ballers from this forum was talking nonsense about the financials of the club and he went indepth on where the money came for the csh. You should watch it or request the minutes, I don't like to see someone make themselves look foolish when info to the contrary is out their
It's no problem mate, you don't look too foolish, even though you don't seem to know who the finance guy is (is he related to running man?). If in the meantime it turns out that club has never lent the CSH money or provided use of facilities rent free as stated on the community sides official accounts or the financial figures of the football club were not boosted by the sale of Duncan, tv money, FA cup prize money or some excellent crowds (largely one off affairs that we're not likely to see again I'm afraid) then I'll happily get you a pint at barwell/Coalville/mickleover sports next season.
Never was the saying a little knowledge is a dangerous thing more appropriate
Seriously mate watch the review before you comment further on the financials, u get taking apart.
Cant believe no one told you, probably didnt have the heart....
I think you're struggling now pal to be honest.
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Dingo. Perhaps its me. I have been over here twenty five years so my brain is starting to go a bit Geoff Boycott. I will ask one more time, please state clearly precisely what your issue is regarding the Twitter feeds, which message and why? Please. If you can't specify that I'll just move along to the Nuneaton game thread because life really is too short to be guessing. Thanks again. X.
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I stood in the second half where the protestors stood in the first and loads of leaflets were scattered on the ground there, which by there location would indicate they weren't even handed out.
Why did our social media guy not report the singing of cheerio cheerio, mmm wonder which way he lent.....
5 posts, registered this username on Saturday evening at 8pm. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out whose agenda is being pushed here. A family member or close friend of the Chairman no doubt.
Sorry mate not a family member or close friend, just part of the majority who disagree with your groups agenda
'My group', lol. I don't have a group but the London Alty lads I normally go with who will all be known to our away day regulars want Rowley to step down as Chairman without exception. Most of us have been going since the 1980s or earlier and through thick and thin. If Graham Rowley worked in my office he would have been removed from his role some time ago.
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
I have no doubt there is a division and I admire the 24 for their courage but if you honestly say to me are they more people in favour of the protestors view than against you are wrong. I don't think you believe that. I think more people probably applauded Tha i give credit for but the social media person did not reflect accurately events, he spun them to his own ends and he knows it deep down 2. Where I was sat I was about 3 meters from him
Can you please expand on this?
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
I have no doubt there is a division and I admire the 24 for their courage but if you honestly say to me are they more people in favour of the protestors view than against you are wrong. I don't think you believe that. I think more people probably applauded Tha i give credit for but the social media person did not reflect accurately events, he spun them to his own ends and he knows it deep down 2. Where I was sat I was about 3 meters from him
Reread my posts and you will come across the piece of fraction composed by the social media lad. By the way GR would be your boss in an office sarf alty, pity none of you guys are as successful as him so you could really do something about deposing him
Can you please expand on this?
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That's a no then Dingo.
Apart from Mrs. Windsor everybody is accountable to somebody, no matter their perceived abilities.
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Absolute rubbish, the Popular Side and Golf Road End applauded. Don't distort the facts to suit your own argument. You sound like a member of the Board.
I was stood on the Popular side and didn't see anyone applaud. Admittedly, I cant speak for the entire terrace but not one person in my vicinity did. I'm just being honest here.
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Stan that is simply a lie
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
I have no doubt there is a division and I admire the 24 for their courage but if you honestly say to me are they more people in favour of the protestors view than against you are wrong. I don't think you believe that. I think more people probably applauded Tha i give credit for but the social media person did not reflect accurately events, he spun them to his own ends and he knows it deep down 2. Where I was sat I was about 3 meters from him
Reread my posts and you will come across the piece of fraction composed by the social media lad. By the way GR would be your boss in an office sarf alty, pity none of you guys are as successful as him so you could really do something about deposing him
Can you please expand on this?
Youve missed my point. I'm not referring to the tweet. You claim you were sat 3 meters away from the social media guy. Can you expand on this?
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Stan that is simply a lie
Honestly, it's not. I'm not saying it didn't happen just that it was not at all obvious if it did.
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Walking out I acknowledged several people who applauded
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Come on dingo. Perhaps most people around you weren't applauding - they really were around where I was stood under the gantry. A number of us against the advertising hoardings turned round to applaud the protesters - this may have obscured your view. There honestly was a lot of support for those who left - I've no reason whatsoever to lie. These divisions are real mate, they can't just be swept under the carpet.
I have no doubt there is a division and I admire the 24 for their courage but if you honestly say to me are they more people in favour of the protestors view than against you are wrong. I don't think you believe that. I think more people probably applauded Tha i give credit for but the social media person did not reflect accurately events, he spun them to his own ends and he knows it deep down 2. Where I was sat I was about 3 meters from him
Reread my posts and you will come across the piece of fraction composed by the social media lad. By the way GR would be your boss in an office sarf alty, pity none of you guys are as successful as him so you could really do something about deposing him
Can you please expand on this?
'Successful', yes he's done well for himself but in respect to running our football club: overseeing consecutive relegations, presided over a series of disastrous management appointments, got in unseemly rows with the national football press, alienated a growing number of the fanbase. I'd love to know where you work if such sustained incompetence is described as 'successful'.
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Walking out I acknowledged several people who applauded
Fair enough Jimmy
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
Very good post I also thought 'Twitter lads' was immensely disrespectful and probably shows Dingos ignorance (yet again) of how much hard work, creativity and thought went into our social media. You can't just get a couple of 6th formers off the street to do this.
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
Very good post I also thought 'Twitter lads' was immensely disrespectful and probably shows Dingos ignorance (yet again) of how much hard work, creativity and thought went into our social media. You can't just get a couple of 6th formers off the street to do this.
a brand manage no doubt what a title.
So your an employee not an owner of a business big wow.
You are a sheep not a Shepard.
If you had an issue with a board member of your company that person wouldn't care. Lions don't spend there time worrying what sheep think.
So where was the social media stationed then?
The fact is the protest could have been held in a public toilet it was so insignificant
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
Very good post I also thought 'Twitter lads' was immensely disrespectful and probably shows Dingos ignorance (yet again) of how much hard work, creativity and thought went into our social media. You can't just get a couple of 6th formers off the street to do this.
a brand manage no doubt what a title.
So your an employee not an owner of a business big wow.
You are a sheep not a Shepard.
If you had an issue with a board member of your company that person wouldn't care. Lions don't spend there time worrying what sheep think.
So where was the social media stationed then?
The fact is the protest could have been held in a public toilet it was so insignificant
The arrogance of you sir is despicable. How dare you try and belittle someone like that? I'm sure your mates in the main stand think you're very big and clever for this. If it was that insignificant, why do you feel the need to come on here and mention it? Can you not see you are just fanning the flames and showing the wholeness persona of those at a club.
Those who follow blindly by without doing anything are the sheep. Not the ones wanting change. If you're going to use metaphor to attempt to convey your illl conceived venom then at least use ones that are appropriate.
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DON'T FEED THE TROLL!
Everyone was either there, heard the radio commentary, or can read about it in the media.
If those with their own agenda inside the club want to start trying to pretend on the internet that there is 'nothing to see here' or rubbish people personally then, and I appreciate it's not easy at times, but let's try to rise above it.
This 'Dingo' chap knows what happened. Rowley knows what happened. The rest of the board know what happened. And everyone else involved with the club knows too. Continuing into next season prentending otherwise isn't going to solve anything.
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
Very good post I also thought 'Twitter lads' was immensely disrespectful and probably shows Dingos ignorance (yet again) of how much hard work, creativity and thought went into our social media. You can't just get a couple of 6th formers off the street to do this.
a brand manage no doubt what a title.
So your an employee not an owner of a business big wow.
You are a sheep not a Shepard.
If you had an issue with a board member of your company that person wouldn't care. Lions don't spend there time worrying what sheep think.
So where was the social media stationed then?
The fact is the protest could have been held in a public toilet it was so insignificant
Keep going.
The more you post, the more it's abundantly apparent that it is infact us that are the reasonable party here. You're not only embarrassing yourself but also the 'side' that you're trying to stick up for.
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
Very good post I also thought 'Twitter lads' was immensely disrespectful and probably shows Dingos ignorance (yet again) of how much hard work, creativity and thought went into our social media. You can't just get a couple of 6th formers off the street to do this.
a brand manage no doubt what a title.
So your an employee not an owner of a business big wow.
You are a sheep not a Shepard.
If you had an issue with a board member of your company that person wouldn't care. Lions don't spend there time worrying what sheep think.
So where was the social media stationed then?
The fact is the protest could have been held in a public toilet it was so insignificant
You're bang out of order here Dingo.
Okay, so you don't agree with the protest, amongst other things, which is fine but you're getting very personal here and that's totally uncalled for.
I didn't agree with the protest either but I am not going to start having a pop at people's lives outside of Alty.
We're all entitled to our opinion but you've crossed the line here and should apologise.
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a brand manage no doubt what a title.
So your an employee not an owner of a business big wow.
You are a sheep not a Shepard.
If you had an issue with a board member of your company that person wouldn't care. Lions don't spend there time worrying what sheep think.
So where was the social media stationed then?
The fact is the protest could have been held in a public toilet it was so insignificant
True colours shown. You've lost any remote shred of credibility you ever possessed. No more discussion required.
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We used to have a poster on here called Dino. He only ever appeared when there was something he could find fault with, and he never let the facts get in the way of his whingeing. There's only one letter difference between Dino and dingo.
As Private Eye would put it : "Could they be in some way related ? We should be told !"
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You're right, lions don't care about sheep.
Lions do,however, look after their cubs.
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We used to have a poster on here called Dino. He only ever appeared when there was something he could find fault with, and he never let the facts get in the way of his whingeing. There's only one letter difference between Dino and dingo.
As Private Eye would put it : "Could they be in some way related ? We should be told !"
Indeed and there are similarities in the spelling and grammar (or lack thereof).
p.s. Even more annoyingly I get Kevin Rowland's nasal warbling in my head every time I read Dino (and I know the spelling is completely different)
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You're right, lions don't care about sheep.
Lions do,however, look after their cubs.
Touche
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I'm going to take exception to a few points in this thread.
Firstly, "Twitter lads", I am the brand manager for a pub company who've posted an annual revenue north of 50 million. I look after the parent brand and three sub brands (around £15m). I'm not some arsey teenager with a vengeance. I'm not being arrogant here. We wiped the floor with Brewdog, Stonegate Pubs (walkabout,slug and lettuce among many others - 30x the size) at the national Publican awards.
Secondly, if I had continual issues with a board member at my company, I'd schedule a meeting with The creative board member I report to and discuss it with them. If matters continued I'd leave. And more than likely join a rival.
Thirdly, Dingo you were not sat close by.
Fourthly, there is no issue with the tweets. You're looking for meaning - like an English Teacher over analysing Carol Anne Duffy.
Very good post I also thought 'Twitter lads' was immensely disrespectful and probably shows Dingos ignorance (yet again) of how much hard work, creativity and thought went into our social media. You can't just get a couple of 6th formers off the street to do this.
a brand manage no doubt what a title.
So your an employee not an owner of a business big wow.
You are a sheep not a Shepard.
If you had an issue with a board member of your company that person wouldn't care. Lions don't spend there time worrying what sheep think.
So where was the social media stationed then?
The fact is the protest could have been held in a public toilet it was so insignificant
What a rude person you actually are! Really no need to get personal.
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I spoke to my boss today. I'll know be known as a Brand Shepard. Thanks for the inspiration.
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I spoke to my boss today. I'll know be known as a Brand Shepard. Thanks for the inspiration.
Nickname George?
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I spoke to Bill today briefly and slowly but surely he is on the mend.
We only spoke briefly, but have arrange a chat for early tomorrow morning.
As for tonight Twitter. What an utter shambles.
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The club is a f**king shambles from top to bottom. A f**king joke.