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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: HashtagAlty on March 14, 2017, 08:32:51 AM
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Hopefully Facebook Live will cover this. We only got only question in from the comments last time and I'll try and ask more.
We will continue to Facebook Live where we can until the actual real life attendance suffers. So if we don't manage to make an announcement (and the event is at Moss Lane), assume there will be some form of social coverage.
I'm in the process of buying new equipment to improve on issues. And looking for a sponsor to make Altrincham FC Facebook Live streaming the best it can be.
We're also interested in various sponsors for our coverage across the entire of social media. PM if anybody would be interested.
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I confess to being a little surprised that neither Matt Doughty nor Robbie Lawton appear to be taking the opportunity to head over to Bower Fold tonight in order to watch Stalybridge Celtic versus Bradford PA, particularly as we are scheduled to play both of those clubs in two of our next three league fixtures.
That would just seem to constitute a potentially more profitable evening than conducting this somewhat immaterial forum.
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You can ask them later
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You can ask them later
I'm washing my hair.
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I confess to being a little surprised that neither Matt Doughty nor Robbie Lawton appear to be taking the opportunity to head over to Bower Fold tonight in order to watch Stalybridge Celtic versus Bradford PA, particularly as we are scheduled to play both of those clubs in two of our next three league fixtures.
That would just seem to constitute a potentially more profitable evening than conducting this somewhat immaterial forum.
oops
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I confess to being a little surprised that neither Matt Doughty nor Robbie Lawton appear to be taking the opportunity to head over to Bower Fold tonight in order to watch Stalybridge Celtic versus Bradford PA, particularly as we are scheduled to play both of those clubs in two of our next three league fixtures.
That would just seem to constitute a potentially more profitable evening than conducting this somewhat immaterial forum.
Isn't it obvious? He's only interested in securing his own position, there's no other reason for a pointless Q and A. You could also argue that he should be prioritising spending time with the players.
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When was the Celtic game tonight arranged? If it was before confirming tonights Q & A then its amateurish to say the least.
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Thought Densmore and Hobson were our scouts?
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Still able to view it on the Altrincham FC Facebook page
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Got bored watching after 8 mins when Lawton said 2 players were stalling on new deals who we'd definitely want in our team. I can't think of any of this years squad that I'd definitely want in our team!!
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Tomlinson and Newby?
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Newby is a Barrow player and Tomlinson needs to prove his fitness. I know there's not many straws to clutch at though mate!
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So what happened?
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Fair play to both Doughty and Lawton (Robbie in particular speaks well, and I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says), I thought they spoke sense and showed some passion and fight. They obviously want the job and have the desire to succeed. I liked their straight talking (even if Jim Harvey did take a battering from Matt!) and didn't blag any questions. Matt was right in what he said about him having to clean up others mess, but I doubt very much he would have been considered for the job in better circumstances. The decision on dropping Reeves is absolutely correct and shows they have the bottle to make big decisions.
My issue isn't with these two but the chairman, who i still believe should have stepped down after overseeing this absolute shambles. Whether Doughty and Lawton are right, only time will tell I suppose.
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Rowley has to accept responsibility at some point. His position is untenable in my view.
He has to go.
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What's the story with Reeves?
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Just that he has lost his turn of pace, and is no longer the same player that both Robbie and Matt played with. He hasn't scored a goal under the new management team and his overall contribution to the team is poor. It's nothing new for the fans as Reeeves has been in steady decline for a while now, it's just that Matt and Robbie haven't blindly persisted with him based on previous achievements, like other might have.
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The handling of Reeves by all 3 management trams has been piss poor. From Young benching him 2nd game of the season so he could 'have a look at Metz', to Harvey having stood on the half way line scractching his arse for an hour at training to being publicaly told he's too slow and not good enough by the current hierarchy.
It would be poor form even if we were scoring 2 or 3 goals a game, but were not.
Still the only natural goal scorer in the squad. Some players need an arm round them not a roasting.
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The handling of Reeves by all 3 management trams has been piss poor. From Young benching him 2nd game of the season so he could 'have a look at Metz', to Harvey having stood on the half way line scractching his arse for an hour at training to being publicaly told he's too slow and not good enough by the current hierarchy.
It would be poor form even if we were scoring 2 or 3 goals a game, but were not.
Still the only natural goal scorer in the squad. Some players need an arm round them not a roasting.
Pull your head out of your arse Glyn, and wake up.
They hardly gave him a roasting, they just said that 0 goals in the 12 games he's played of the 15 that they've been managing doesn't warrant a starting place every week, no matter wha he's done previously. And they are quite right.
They attributed his lack of goals to the style of play to stop us leaking sh*t loads of goals as well, they didn't just say "he's crap and not playing because he isn't what he used to be".
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Have to agree BHM. No player should be guaranteed a starting place on past glories if they're not performing to a decent standard at present although I don't blame RIS for defending him as he's a personal friend.
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I'd still rather have a slow goalscorer on the pitch than a sprinter who doesn't know where the goals are. I appreciate they don't think he is right for the system but then I don't see how Andy Owens is either. I bet Reeves has scored more goals this season than we have had shots on target in the last 5 games .Maybe he needs an arm around him rather than public criticism (and that's aimed at GH rather than Matt and Robbie). Did anyone ask why they played our most creative player at left-back when McWilliams was on the bench?
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There seemed to be two reasons as to why Clee has been playing left back. Firstly McWilliams wasn't following instructions (but they have been pleased with him of late) and secondly Matt thought teams were doubling up on Nicky, so presumably playing him left back means he can bomb on without being heavily marked. Sounded good in theory, thought im not sure its really worked out that way.
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I'd still rather have a slow goalscorer on the pitch than a sprinter who doesn't know where the goals are. I appreciate they don't think he is right for the system but then I don't see how Andy Owens is either. I bet Reeves has scored more goals this season than we have had shots on target in the last 5 games .Maybe he needs an arm around him rather than public criticism (and that's aimed at GH rather than Matt and Robbie). Did anyone ask why they played our most creative player at left-back when McWilliams was on the bench?
He's scored three league goals all season so I highly doubt it.
Don't really get the issue with Clee either. If we are honest he didn't make the immediate impact we would have hoped for on his return and results have been better of late since his move to left back and has allowed Newby to chip in with some goals.
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I'd still rather have a slow goalscorer on the pitch than a sprinter who doesn't know where the goals are. I appreciate they don't think he is right for the system but then I don't see how Andy Owens is either. I bet Reeves has scored more goals this season than we have had shots on target in the last 5 games .Maybe he needs an arm around him rather than public criticism (and that's aimed at GH rather than Matt and Robbie). Did anyone ask why they played our most creative player at left-back when McWilliams was on the bench?
He's scored three league goals all season so I highly doubt it.
Don't really get the issue with Clee either. If we are honest he didn't make the immediate impact we would have hoped for on his return and results have been better of late since his move to left back and has allowed Newby to chip in with some goals.
The team was a complete shambles then. Signs of improvement of late but to no avail.
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He's scored 7 goals this season so I wouldn't imagine I'm far off. And that's more than Owens, Hobson and Evans combined. It's all well and good saying we neededto tighten up but you can concede and win games but you can't fail to score and win. Goalless draws were never going to be good enough for us, we needed to win matches. Or is their philosophy to get players used to a system we will be playing next season and to write off this season. If so , I don't think I'd want to watch us play that way in the evostik.
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I agree the style of play in the last two home games has been dreadful to watch. I would hope next season with the injured players back fit and hopefully some confidence we wont just lump it up. Matt and Robbie talked about working towards the plan for next season, but without knowing whether they will be in charge or not. Matt said he was working hard to bring the very best players available to Moss Lane even if he isn't there to see them play together. All very confusing, as we know that one mangers opinion on a player is very different to the next. My guess is that GR is allowing them to put together a squad for next season knowing that they will be in charge, but is waiting (and hoping) that they win a few more so he can justify their appointment.
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GR is allowing them to put together a squad for next season knowing that they will be in charge, but is waiting (and hoping) that they win a few more so he can justify their appointment.
I agree, and that just ain't good enough for me.
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I was there last night, re-building takes time, a lot of time. 2-3 seasons typically.
Both Robbie and Matt want to succeed, but it will take time. I believe they are making progress, but the ship is steadying. Far from perfect and they acknowledged that. They want to play attractive football but in the interim have gone more combative. Mindset of the players is a huge problem, Robbie being a sports psychology teacher is working on that side. I see a difference.
my fear is that if we chop and change again to much, we will continue to free fall. Steady the ship and move forwards from there through the pre-season, which as they said. Has started now.
They want to bounce back next season if we go down and that is what they are gearing up for. Personally I think they should be given the opportunity unless w e see no tangible process. Next 2 home games will tell us a lot and will have a bearing on there position come end of April.
I would like to see Reeves playing, it is the only way he will score. Currently I see he is 3rd highest scorer behind Miller and lawrie. Interesting 4 of his goals come against the teams in the league below. Pointer for next season perhaps?
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Wot he said !
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Glad to see some reasoned posts on here.
It's almost as if people are hoping the club DOESN'T stabilise after 2 horrific years - if that happens under Matt and Robbie, good on them. Some people need to grow up.
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If the priority for next season is to simply stabilise at Evo-Stick level then sticking with the current managers would of course help fulfil the objective of stabilisation.
But if, as per the recent Strategic Plan released by the board, the intention is immediate promotion from the Evo-Stick (followed by fairly swift promotion back to the Conf National), then appointing two inexperienced managers with an awful record in football management is a dreadful idea.
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Matt and Robbie, said they wanted to stabilise and bounce back immediately.
Its up to the board to decide whether they do it or someone else.
Time will tell which was the correct decision.
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Regarding Nicky Clee, I'm not sure I buy the "doubling up" explanation as they were starting him at full-back not switching him there during the game .Just because one team does it one week doesn't mean the next opponents will do the same. If a team does want to double up on him then it's up to the management to make sure our players make the most of the extra space elsewhere. I don't think Nicky has the stamina to get up and down the full length of the pitch for 90 mins. My preference is to play your best players in their best position and not put square pegs in round holes.
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I agree over Clee, he should be played on the wing, not a wing back.
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He's scored 7 goals this season so I wouldn't imagine I'm far off. And that's more than Owens, Hobson and Evans combined. It's all well and good saying we neededto tighten up but you can concede and win games but you can't fail to score and win. Goalless draws were never going to be good enough for us, we needed to win matches. Or is their philosophy to get players used to a system we will be playing next season and to write off this season. If so , I don't think I'd want to watch us play that way in the evostik.
I have posted a couple of times already on this but in my opinion Damien will play at a higher level than us next season and will be in double digits for goals
He is a very sad indication of where the club is now and the dressing room morale that was discussed last night
He has been surrounded by incompetence and it's affected him
He would be the first to admit he has not played well and in hindsight he should have left when that joker young was let into mad house
However I also agree no one should ever start just on reputation
What a sad ending for a striker that has scored so many Goals for us over the years
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https://youtu.be/xxNIpxp2tMc
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He's not match fit. How many minutes on the pitch has Doughty given him? He's 31 not 51, get him playing and give him the bloody ball in the box, its not rocket science, and he was never a pace player anyway. I dont buy it, there's more to it and its not being fully brought out into the open, possibly for good reason.
Also, is it Doughty and Lawton now or still just Doughty and Lawton as assistant?
At times it all reads like a circus to me. I hope our resurgence continues but its going to be a tough game after Stalybridge won 4-3 over BPA. I dont think we'll win to be honest, i'm starting to feel like i've got a bit carried away believing we're suddenly a poor side instead of the very very poor side we have been before now.
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A large amount of the squad were not fit at the start of this season which was another part of the issue as well 😐
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I was very impressed with their attitude.....I'd love them to succeed.....
We have needed a manager to come in and get the basics sorted.....they should have found a keeper as a priority....they have done that now and I think you can see the mindset changing....a bit of confidence that the opposition are not necessarily going to score again and again.......I think this keeper could turn into a cult figure and that's what has been needed... a strong character....
Now they should get Reevesey playing and scoring goals....if the ball drops in the box who do you want on the end of it???
Reeves turned the FA Cup match with a turn swivel and goal out of nowhere....no-one else is capable of that.....
I'm happy to let them have a crack at next season....they obviously care, they are putting pressure on themselves and the team......they are better than Young, Tolson and Harvey.
I don't think buzz had much input at all under jim by the sounds of it.
Lets make a fight of it till the end of the season, finish at least 3rd bottom...lets get some pride back.......if grahame would step down to community director we could all unite and maybe get a bit excited about next season and beyond.....
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Hi Cult, they said they had someone at Bower Fold watching the game sho was going to report back to them.
I confess to being a little surprised that neither Matt Doughty nor Robbie Lawton appear to be taking the opportunity to head over to Bower Fold tonight in order to watch Stalybridge Celtic versus Bradford PA, particularly as we are scheduled to play both of those clubs in two of our next three league fixtures.
That would just seem to constitute a potentially more profitable evening than conducting this somewhat immaterial forum.
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Matt and Robbie, said they wanted to stabilise and bounce back immediately.
Its up to the board to decide whether they do it or someone else.
Time will tell which was the correct decision.
Stabilise and bounce back immediately are totally different things
Matt and Robbie would say anything to get the job
Pity is they will get it because their ex-players and mates of Rowley despite having no experience or track record at all
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Hi Cult, they said they had someone at Bower Fold watching the game sho was going to report back to them.
I confess to being a little surprised that neither Matt Doughty nor Robbie Lawton appear to be taking the opportunity to head over to Bower Fold tonight in order to watch Stalybridge Celtic versus Bradford PA, particularly as we are scheduled to play both of those clubs in two of our next three league fixtures.
That would just seem to constitute a potentially more profitable evening than conducting this somewhat immaterial forum.
Even so, it's only down the road, it's ridiculous/unacceptable they didn't go.
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Hi Cult, they said they had someone at Bower Fold watching the game sho was going to report back to them.
I confess to being a little surprised that neither Matt Doughty nor Robbie Lawton appear to be taking the opportunity to head over to Bower Fold tonight in order to watch Stalybridge Celtic versus Bradford PA, particularly as we are scheduled to play both of those clubs in two of our next three league fixtures.
That would just seem to constitute a potentially more profitable evening than conducting this somewhat immaterial forum.
I never thought that we wouldn't have someone at Bower Fold to watch Tuesday night's fixture but I'm still rather perplexed as to why Doughty or Lawton wouldn't have wanted to witness both of those imminent opponents with their own eyes.
Was holding a public audition for the management posts deemed to be the priority?
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He's scored 7 goals this season so I wouldn't imagine I'm far off. And that's more than Owens, Hobson and Evans combined. It's all well and good saying we neededto tighten up but you can concede and win games but you can't fail to score and win.
Goalless draws were never going to be good enough for us, we needed to win matches. Or is their philosophy to get players used to a system we will be playing next season and to write off this season. If so , I don't think I'd want to watch us play that way in the evostik.
15 league games under Doughty & Lawton have produced the meagre total of nine goals.