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Title: 1988
Post by: Teasierbeaver on January 28, 2017, 05:03:44 PM
We just got beat 4-1 at a team that started in 1988 and most of us are grateful that was all it was. Sack the board now.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: robininstockport on January 28, 2017, 05:08:14 PM
Who could sack the board?
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Alty Dave on January 28, 2017, 05:10:31 PM
I am not grateful and see it as a stuffing today.

They hardly broke sweat and appeared to score at will.

Glad I decided not to go.

Serious surgery required.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: arnald on January 28, 2017, 05:11:22 PM
It's sad to say that a 4-1 defeat is a good result for us
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Alty Dave on January 28, 2017, 05:14:35 PM
Defence incluiding Deasy are woeful, there is also no pressing of the ball.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: taxi Phil on January 28, 2017, 05:16:44 PM
Defence incluiding Deasy are woeful, there is also no pressing of the ball.
Nom de Plume agrees with John Laidlar's view on Matchday Updates that Hannigan played well. And the rest didn't.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: im not really here on January 28, 2017, 05:22:07 PM
Matt Doughty continues to prove what a great choice as manager he was. Rowley inspired as usual.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: jonno21 on January 28, 2017, 05:26:59 PM
Matt Doughty continues to prove what a great choice as manager he was. Rowley inspired as usual.

Time for him to go 12 games and 7 defeats, any other manager would be sacked.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: York Alty is back on January 28, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
Matt Doughty continues to prove what a great choice as manager he was. Rowley inspired as usual.

Time for him to go 12 games and 7 defeats, any other manager would be sacked.

This malaise is evidence of greater issues than just the team management. The board are culpable and must be gone. I have been patient, but that has evaporated. Go damn quickly please Mr Rowley.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Alty Bri on January 28, 2017, 05:40:44 PM
What? Tom Hannigan was the only defender to play well? You're kidding me :'(
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: jonno21 on January 28, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
Matt Doughty continues to prove what a great choice as manager he was. Rowley inspired as usual.

Time for him to go 12 games and 7 defeats, any other manager would be sacked.

This malaise is evidence of greater issues than just the team management. The board are culpable and must be gone. I have been patient, but that has evaporated. Go damn quickly please Mr Rowley.

At the start of the season, the board, made a reasonable recruitment choice of hiring Neil Young as manager given his experience at Chester. Personally  I think most clubs would have tried to hire a manager like Young given his credentials. Now  Young should never have taken the job if he had problems at home and was considering retirement so soon. The appointment of Jim Harvey should have been a no go from day one. Matt Doughty is a classic case of a romantic appointment that most chairmen fall for, When they appoint an old player to return to the club and save them but unfortunately this very rarely works.

Another manager leaving sounds like it needs to happen but the worst thing they can do right now is appoint Robbie Lawton or Grahame Heathcote. The thing they need the most is a manager who will change the playing style of the team, Thats what they need to look for.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: AFC56 on January 28, 2017, 05:54:16 PM
Nothing new learnt today, apart from Gary Jones looked 40 years old and Tim Deasey gets worse everytime he plays. Only Clee and Hannigan would I be happy welcoming back next season. The others just aren't very good.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: alty.fc on January 28, 2017, 06:09:16 PM
Matt Doughty continues to prove what a great choice as manager he was. Rowley inspired as usual.

Time for him to go 12 games and 7 defeats, any other manager would be sacked.

This malaise is evidence of greater issues than just the team management. The board are culpable and must be gone. I have been patient, but that has evaporated. Go damn quickly please Mr Rowley.

At the start of the season, the board, made a reasonable recruitment choice of hiring Neil Young as manager given his experience at Chester. Personally  I think most clubs would have tried to hire a manager like Young given his credentials. Now  Young should never have taken the job if he had problems at home and was considering retirement so soon. The appointment of Jim Harvey should have been a no go from day one. Matt Doughty is a classic case of a romantic appointment that most chairmen fall for, When they appoint an old player to return to the club and save them but unfortunately this very rarely works.

Another manager leaving sounds like it needs to happen but the worst thing they can do right now is appoint Robbie Lawton or Grahame Heathcote. The thing they need the most is a manager who will change the playing style of the team, Thats what they need to look for.
I'm completely the other way on young . It was a terrible choice he retired at stockport and vowed he had quit football . And nothing had changed and we should have done our homework.  Jim for me seemed the right choice but the damage was already done.  We are no better off now
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: blackpoolalty on January 28, 2017, 06:13:46 PM
Deasy, error prone for basic stuff, fumbling the ball from corners
Jones, first time he's looked well off the pace, lost possession several times
Cyrus, no confidence - hoof ball and poor passes
Hannigan, definitely something there needs a decent partner
Lawrie, invisible
Moult, never known a player go from top to bottom in confidence as he has
Clee, only one who looks like creating something for no one to take adavantage
Owens, improvement on last week but missed a chance that should've been a goal
Richman, invisible
McWilliams, not for me- better left backs out there


I agree that Rowley has clearly gone down the sentimanetal route with two seasoned ex players. It isn't at won't work. Get some meat head gripper boss who knows the lower leagues to rip this shower of sh*t up and assemble a team of workers and runners. Today, Fylde wore a white kit the guy Rowe has scored two goals and not got an inch of dirt on him
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: robininstockport on January 28, 2017, 06:25:04 PM
What was Newby like?
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Macsporran on January 28, 2017, 06:54:35 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: robininstockport on January 28, 2017, 07:09:45 PM
I agree Macsporran. As infuriating as it can frequently be collectively getting on players backs wont help.
Surprised Hannigan got stick as hes our only decent defender.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: GolfRoader on January 28, 2017, 07:18:53 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 28, 2017, 07:40:05 PM


Fylde settled down with their pipe and slippers and effectively declared at 3-0.

For Alty, whilst there is no absence of effort, there is simply a dearth of quality...and we are so easy to score against.

Jones was completely off the pace and Brownhill and Adeloye both look hopelessly out of their depth.

Hannigan was comfortably our best player.

In all my years of watching Alty, I don't recall ever hearing so many ironic and derogatory chants directed against the chairman and his board from sections of the away support.

I sense that something's got to give here very soon.


 





Title: Re: 1988
Post by: alty.fc on January 28, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
do you think we should have kept Harvey ? .
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: AFC56 on January 28, 2017, 07:46:52 PM
Alty was a proper and proud non league club, you can't expect people not to speak out when we have had to endure total and utter incompetence on every level for 12 months and more. Those players have got away with it for weeks, a few cheeky jeers and laughter is no less than they deserve. There has been an acceptance of sh*t from the top running all the way through to the pitch for too long now.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: im not really here on January 28, 2017, 07:52:59 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
do you think we should have kept Harvey ? .
I do. No point in sacking Harvey, unless he was replaced by someone better. Doughy was never going to work.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: York Alty is back on January 28, 2017, 07:54:55 PM

I sense that something's got to give here very soon.


Correct. I expect more of the same vertbals from now on.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: cheshire cat on January 28, 2017, 08:00:29 PM
For all the wailing and gnashing of teeth nothing is going to happen until the end of the season.

Neil Young got Chester two promotions. He failed at Stockport but I wouldn't be surprised to hear him say that was because he had no cash to bring anyone decent in. On that basis I can understand why the board took a punt on him. Unfortunately, by the time we'd realised he'd got it oh so wrong there's not enough talent sloshing around waiting to come and play for us.

Nothing has changed between the Autumn and now and nothing will change until the summer. We knew the last couple of weeks were going to be tough and it still will be until mid February. At this point in time I'm not expecting much against Halifax or Harrogate but it will be interesting to see what we can do against Telford, Worcester and Stalybridge.

  
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: GolfRoader on January 28, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
do you think we should have kept Harvey ? .

No, because I saw absolutely no fight from him whatsoever, we actually got worse I'd say plus the players he brought in added nothing. I've seen some better players under doughty already and a little bit more tenacity. I think that's earned him some more time if nothing else. Besides the season is gone now, what manager in his right mind would want to come here until the end of the campaign?
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: im not really here on January 28, 2017, 08:06:46 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
do you think we should have kept Harvey ? .

No, because I saw absolutely no fight from him whatsoever, we actually got worse I'd say plus the players he brought in added nothing. I've seen some better players under doughty already and a little bit more tenacity. I think that's earned him some more time if nothing else. Besides the season is gone now, what manager in his right mind would want to come here until the end of the campaign?

better players? more tenacity? I don't know who you've been watching or have you been taken in my by the bullsh*t interviews with our management team.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: shelmers on January 28, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
Don't think it was out of order in any way today directing at individual players and the board. Fans are paying goo money on a weekly basis to watch that load of rubbish! As for the players I think it is pathetic of them to show so little appreciation of the fans which turned up today! Adeloye was the only player who came over and acknowledged the fans. The longer this comedy show goes on the more the players will get individual criticism. The fans deserve more and I think we have been very patient over the last few months - something which would not happen at other clubs.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: GolfRoader on January 28, 2017, 08:17:15 PM
What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
do you think we should have kept Harvey ? .

No, because I saw absolutely no fight from him whatsoever, we actually got worse I'd say plus the players he brought in added nothing. I've seen some better players under doughty already and a little bit more tenacity. I think that's earned him some more time if nothing else. Besides the season is gone now, what manager in his right mind would want to come here until the end of the campaign?

better players? more tenacity? I don't know who you've been watching or have you been taken in my by the bullsh*t interviews with our management team.

What was Newby like?
Looked lively, if not a little lightweight.

Well, I'm going to be controversial tonight and not popular ...but I'm gonna say it. And, having been to every home game and only missed 2 away games all season I feel I have the right ...but I was pissed off with our fans picking out 2 players ( Cyrus and Hannigan) for direct stick today. Booing the ref for not sending Cyrus off, and replying to the Fylde support who were chanting Toms name with " you can have him back " is out of order. Particularly as these guys were right in front of the fans...I wonder if you'd be as brave on your own or say them face to face?

Not too sure what you expected today, and I applaud you for making the effort  to go, but it's counter productive to offer support by travelling then to loudly slag off individuals (who are not making errors deliberately). Plus, I happened to think Hannigan played well today - but of course that is personal opinion.

I'm all for the Roweley chants --he does need to go -- but he's not on the pitch and I was unhappy at these 2 players being picked out like that.

Tend to agree if I'm honest but I think and hope that they were more tongue in cheek chants than anything laughing at our own demise, especially that of Hannigan. I think most supporters would agree that he alone isn't the problem this season.

As for people saying Doughty out etc I'd have to disagree, no manager can undo what has happened here in such a short space of time, you'd need a miracle. You can't just get rid of every single manager that comes through the door if you don't see instant results, it's going to take a lot of time to turn this around.
do you think we should have kept Harvey ? .

No, because I saw absolutely no fight from him whatsoever, we actually got worse I'd say plus the players he brought in added nothing. I've seen some better players under doughty already and a little bit more tenacity. I think that's earned him some more time if nothing else. Besides the season is gone now, what manager in his right mind would want to come here until the end of the campaign?

better players? more tenacity? I don't know who you've been watching or have you been taken in my by the bullsh*t interviews with our management team.

My point is there's absoultey zero reason to get rid of doughty now. What purpose does it serve?

And if you're comparing the players Harvey had signed to the ones Doughty has then yes absolutely, it was a joke and marginally better than Neil Young's scatter gun approach but at least he managed to bring in Miller and Hannigan amongst the rest of the complete rubbish that was signed.

and I'm saying that in comparison to what was served up before he came in. We're still completely sh*t of course.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Alty Bri on January 28, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
As I said after Owens got stick at Chorley, giving individual players verbals during games is just counter productive and distasteful.The board made 2 dreadful managerial appointments in Tolson and Young. Harvey was dealt a piss poor hand and Matt has been too. They've had a squad with one defender in it. Rowley should go at the end of the season obviously following successive relegations. As for Matt, I'm sick of managerial changes and I think he should be given at least a chance to assemble his own squad.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on January 28, 2017, 08:47:16 PM
As I said after Owens got stick at Chorley, giving individual players verbals during games is just counter productive and distasteful.The board made 2 dreadful managerial appointments in Tolson and Young. Harvey was dealt a piss poor hand and Matt has been too. They've had a squad with one defender in it. Rowley should go at the end of the season obviously following successive relegations. As for Matt, I'm sick of managerial changes and I think he should be given at least a chance to assemble his own squad.

This is the problem. No matter how badly we are doing we are now Rowley FC and unfortunately he will 100% still be chairman in the Evostick next season.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Frosty on January 28, 2017, 08:57:16 PM
Thank god as a club we are thriving
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: cheshire cat on January 28, 2017, 09:17:30 PM
It was interesting that on RR this afternoon it became apparent that quite a few of the Fylde crowd were disaffected Blackpool fans.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: andrewflynn on January 28, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
I'd gladly tell John Cyrus that he isn't the standard I expect of an Altrincham Football Club defender, thanks.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: robininstockport on January 28, 2017, 09:33:35 PM
I'd gladly tell John Cyrus that he isn't the standard I expect of an Altrincham Football Club defender, thanks.

I think hes fully aware of this.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Darren on January 28, 2017, 09:33:48 PM
Afc Fylde New ish club new ground a club going forward.

Altrincham proud history Ground the same for years apart from the CSH A club in free fall
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: jonno21 on January 28, 2017, 09:36:20 PM
As I said after Owens got stick at Chorley, giving individual players verbals during games is just counter productive and distasteful.The board made 2 dreadful managerial appointments in Tolson and Young. Harvey was dealt a piss poor hand and Matt has been too. They've had a squad with one defender in it. Rowley should go at the end of the season obviously following successive relegations. As for Matt, I'm sick of managerial changes and I think he should be given at least a chance to assemble his own squad.

With what funds, the player we have now where bought because thats what the club could afford according to the board following relegation and a second relegation is going to devestating to the clubs finances.

Alty are going to need a 10 year plan to restructure the club and its finances, next few years are going to be hard to take.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: andrewflynn on January 28, 2017, 09:51:46 PM
To be honest, the chants were born out of trying to find some humour in getting rolled over by yet another nothing club that's zooming on by. The heckling and general venting of frustrations has been very tame. We're a nice set of fans, let's be honest. Windows would be going through at other clubs. I think a few lads telling a player what they think of him is fine given the fact he's been ever present in the worst Altrincham side in the history of the club.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: taxi Phil on January 28, 2017, 09:52:11 PM


next few years are going to be hard to take.

And very easy to leave.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: York Alty is back on January 28, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
Thank god as a club we are thriving
Put those claws away Mr. cat.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on January 28, 2017, 10:18:02 PM
As I said after Owens got stick at Chorley, giving individual players verbals during games is just counter productive and distasteful.The board made 2 dreadful managerial appointments in Tolson and Young. Harvey was dealt a piss poor hand and Matt has been too. They've had a squad with one defender in it. Rowley should go at the end of the season obviously following successive relegations. As for Matt, I'm sick of managerial changes and I think he should be given at least a chance to assemble his own squad.

With what funds, the player we have now where bought because thats what the club could afford according to the board following relegation and a second relegation is going to devestating to the clubs finances.

Alty are going to need a 10 year plan to restructure the club and its finances, next few years are going to be hard to take.

Young or Harvey didn't spend all the budget and chose to bring in cheap options.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: alty.fc on January 29, 2017, 12:20:36 AM
As I said after Owens got stick at Chorley, giving individual players verbals during games is just counter productive and distasteful.The board made 2 dreadful managerial appointments in Tolson and Young. Harvey was dealt a piss poor hand and Matt has been too. They've had a squad with one defender in it. Rowley should go at the end of the season obviously following successive relegations. As for Matt, I'm sick of managerial changes and I think he should be given at least a chance to assemble his own squad.

With what funds, the player we have now where bought because thats what the club could afford according to the board following relegation and a second relegation is going to devestating to the clubs finances.

Alty are going to need a 10 year plan to restructure the club and its finances, next few years are going to be hard to take.

Young or Harvey didn't spend all the budget and chose to bring in cheap options.
Harvey had no choice nothing was left
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Macsporran on January 29, 2017, 02:04:08 AM
To be honest, the chants were born out of trying to find some humour in getting rolled over by yet another nothing club that's zooming on by. The heckling and general venting of frustrations has been very tame. We're a nice set of fans, let's be honest. Windows would be going through at other clubs. I think a few lads telling a player what they think of him is fine given the fact he's been ever present in the worst Altrincham side in the history of the club.
Really? Well I don't see the 'humour' in personal abuse of players who wear the shirt.
Ok, they may not reach the standards you expect -- or of days gone by --but do you really think it's helping the team and individuals by screaming out that bile? You need to take a look at yourself...I see all the same faces at away games, and it's great to have such a loyal support. But if you think that supporting your team involves screaming that crap at players then you and your bunch of mates can do one . If you seriously think that these actions have improved our situation I'd be delighted to hear your reasoning. 
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Stan Hibbert on January 29, 2017, 06:53:45 AM
To be honest, the chants were born out of trying to find some humour in getting rolled over by yet another nothing club that's zooming on by. The heckling and general venting of frustrations has been very tame. We're a nice set of fans, let's be honest. Windows would be going through at other clubs. I think a few lads telling a player what they think of him is fine given the fact he's been ever present in the worst Altrincham side in the history of the club.
Really? Well I don't see the 'humour' in personal abuse of players who wear the shirt.
Ok, they may not reach the standards you expect -- or of days gone by --but do you really think it's helping the team and individuals by screaming out that bile? You need to take a look at yourself...I see all the same faces at away games, and it's great to have such a loyal support. But if you think that supporting your team involves screaming that crap at players then you and your bunch of mates can do one . If you seriously think that these actions have improved our situation I'd be delighted to hear your reasoning. 

I agree. Whilst it might get a few childish giggles it's not productive is it?

Cyrus may not be good enough but Young signed him and Buzz continues to play him.

If you're going to be critical then fair enough but aim it in the correct place.

And before you say it, I go home and away too, spend a lot of money and give up a lot of time.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: andrewflynn on January 29, 2017, 08:51:18 AM
To be honest, the chants were born out of trying to find some humour in getting rolled over by yet another nothing club that's zooming on by. The heckling and general venting of frustrations has been very tame. We're a nice set of fans, let's be honest. Windows would be going through at other clubs. I think a few lads telling a player what they think of him is fine given the fact he's been ever present in the worst Altrincham side in the history of the club.
Really? Well I don't see the 'humour' in personal abuse of players who wear the shirt.
Ok, they may not reach the standards you expect -- or of days gone by --but do you really think it's helping the team and individuals by screaming out that bile? You need to take a look at yourself...I see all the same faces at away games, and it's great to have such a loyal support. But if you think that supporting your team involves screaming that crap at players then you and your bunch of mates can do one . If you seriously think that these actions have improved our situation I'd be delighted to hear your reasoning. 

Abuse? Bile? It was giving poor players a bit of stick.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Darren on January 29, 2017, 09:51:30 AM
They take a wage that we help pay with are hard earned money,
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: bumble on January 29, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
As I said after Owens got stick at Chorley, giving individual players verbals during games is just counter productive and distasteful.The board made 2 dreadful managerial appointments in Tolson and Young. Harvey was dealt a piss poor hand and Matt has been too. They've had a squad with one defender in it. Rowley should go at the end of the season obviously following successive relegations. As for Matt, I'm sick of managerial changes and I think he should be given at least a chance to assemble his own squad.

With what funds, the player we have now where bought because thats what the club could afford according to the board following relegation and a second relegation is going to devestating to the clubs finances.

Alty are going to need a 10 year plan to restructure the club and its finances, next few years are going to be hard to take.

Young or Harvey didn't spend all the budget and chose to bring in cheap options.

Young went over budget on pub youth players.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: bumble on January 29, 2017, 10:28:55 AM
To be honest, the chants were born out of trying to find some humour in getting rolled over by yet another nothing club that's zooming on by. The heckling and general venting of frustrations has been very tame. We're a nice set of fans, let's be honest. Windows would be going through at other clubs. I think a few lads telling a player what they think of him is fine given the fact he's been ever present in the worst Altrincham side in the history of the club.
Really? Well I don't see the 'humour' in personal abuse of players who wear the shirt.
Ok, they may not reach the standards you expect -- or of days gone by --but do you really think it's helping the team and individuals by screaming out that bile? You need to take a look at yourself...I see all the same faces at away games, and it's great to have such a loyal support. But if you think that supporting your team involves screaming that crap at players then you and your bunch of mates can do one . If you seriously think that these actions have improved our situation I'd be delighted to hear your reasoning.  

You must live an extremely, extremely sheltered life.

Bile? We're hardly going round telling him to die, or abusing his family like a lot of clubs would. One song about Hannigan, some heckles after appealing defending put us 4 down.

We spent longer singing about Blackpool than we did about John Cyrus. We spent longer singing about billy Hashler Cregg than we did about the shoddy defending,

We're spending £1000s a year to travel across the country and a tame bit of jovial criticism is the least of of concerns, and actually only started at 4-1 down. We were polite enough to wait to Hannigan had decided to run away from the striker before offering to send him back.

After being mocked by the home fans for our lack of points and going down, we moved away from singing about Alty.

For the record, nobody's mentioning the Rowley out , Rowley legacy, and community chants?
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: AFC56 on January 29, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
To be honest, the chants were born out of trying to find some humour in getting rolled over by yet another nothing club that's zooming on by. The heckling and general venting of frustrations has been very tame. We're a nice set of fans, let's be honest. Windows would be going through at other clubs. I think a few lads telling a player what they think of him is fine given the fact he's been ever present in the worst Altrincham side in the history of the club.
Really? Well I don't see the 'humour' in personal abuse of players who wear the shirt.
Ok, they may not reach the standards you expect -- or of days gone by --but do you really think it's helping the team and individuals by screaming out that bile? You need to take a look at yourself...I see all the same faces at away games, and it's great to have such a loyal support. But if you think that supporting your team involves screaming that crap at players then you and your bunch of mates can do one . If you seriously think that these actions have improved our situation I'd be delighted to hear your reasoning. 

You must live an extremely, extremely sheltered life.

Bile? We're hardly going round telling him to die, or abusing his family like a lot of clubs would. One song about Hannigan, some heckles after appealing defending put us 4 down.

We spent longer singing about Blackpool than we did about John Cyrus. We spent longer singing about billy Hashler Cregg than we did about the shoddy defending,

We're spending £1000s a year to travel across the country and a tame bit of jovial criticism is the least of of concerns, and actually only started at 4-1 down. We were polite enough to wait to Hannigan had decided to run away from the striker before offering to send him back.

After being mocked by the home fans for our lack of points and going down, we moved away

Totally agree.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: RockyRobin on January 29, 2017, 11:18:27 AM
The club is on its last legs.

Do they know how lucky they are to have such loyal and persistent supporters? Other teams would have had three men a dog in the away end.

We are not in a position where this is going to carry on happening, new blood will die off.

We now have two top 6 Premiership teams on our doorstep!

My boycott continues and I took the opportunity to go and watch City at Palace, only £20. I had a very enjoyable day out.

Others will follow.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: wayno on January 29, 2017, 11:43:23 AM
The fans are frustrated what do people expect ?

Like Ive said before its a free country and as long it's not abusive it's peoples right to voice there opinions either way

Anyway all this is just a mere diversion away from the real problems facing this club

The short and medium term objectives of the 5 year plan will be very interesting
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Darren on January 29, 2017, 11:53:44 AM
Just watched Football on 5, Have you seen what Coventry fans disgruntled with there club did at Northampton. Flares throwing things at players then police carrying fans away in handcuff
now thats over the top.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Timperley The Best on January 29, 2017, 12:02:10 PM
Just watched Football on 5, Have you seen what Coventry fans disgruntled with there club did at Northampton. Flares throwing things at players then police carrying fans away in handcuff
now thats over the top.


It is but they along with blackpool , Blackburn and charlton have been shafted by theirowners at least our hierarchy actually care.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Darren on January 29, 2017, 12:06:59 PM
Just watched Football on 5, Have you seen what Coventry fans disgruntled with there club did at Northampton. Flares throwing things at players then police carrying fans away in handcuff
now thats over the top.


It is but they along with blackpool , Blackburn and charlton have been shafted by theirowners at least our hierarchy actually care.

Didn't say they didn't just pointing out what other clubs have resorted too
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Jimmy on January 29, 2017, 12:19:08 PM
If they cared they would go
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: robininstockport on January 29, 2017, 12:29:24 PM
They cant go if there's no one is there to fill the void.

Well they could and then the would grind to a halt
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Jimmy on January 29, 2017, 12:31:28 PM
No one stepping in because they do nothing to let outsiders in,why simply because of his ego.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on January 29, 2017, 12:48:35 PM
No one stepping in because they do nothing to let outsiders in,why simply because of his ego.

This is bang on!!
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Darren on January 29, 2017, 12:51:55 PM
4 years ago today we beat Boston 7-1
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: taxi Phil on January 29, 2017, 01:11:06 PM
4 years ago today we beat Boston 7-1

Two years ago we won all four of our games in Vanarama National during January. It seems a lifetime away now.
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on January 29, 2017, 02:45:29 PM
Fylde didn't get out of second gear. The same "we can't be expected to beat fyide/Chorley" stuff being trotted out as last week. The same Fylde that lost to curzon Ashton last week, the same curzon Ashton that won at Darlington Yesterday where we will register another tame surrender in a fortnight and Hear we can't be expected to compete with Darlington. Something seriously wrong here and people are worrying about a few jocular chants by the most patient and dispirited fan base in the country. By the end of this month we will have won 15 league games in TWO YEARS, And still people turn up week in week out. That was incredible turn out yesterday considering everyone knew what we were going to encounter. Those in attendance deserve a medal. Had we been even midtable you'd have seen another hundred in attendance. Keep hearing be careful what you wish for being banded about, well that works two ways. Goodwill only extends so far. And the core long term support of this club is drifting away in big numbers, they need placating not criticising
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: wayno on January 29, 2017, 05:57:06 PM
Fylde didn't get out of second gear. The same "we can't be expected to beat fyide/Chorley" stuff being trotted out as last week. The same Fylde that lost to curzon Ashton last week, the same curzon Ashton that won at Darlington Yesterday where we will register another tame surrender in a fortnight and Hear we can't be expected to compete with Darlington. Something seriously wrong here and people are worrying about a few jocular chants by the most patient and dispirited fan base in the country. By the end of this month we will have won 15 league games in TWO YEARS, And still people turn up week in week out. That was incredible turn out yesterday considering everyone knew what we were going to encounter. Those in attendance deserve a medal. Had we been even midtable you'd have seen another hundred in attendance. Keep hearing be careful what you wish for being banded about, well that works two ways. Goodwill only extends so far. And the core long term support of this club is drifting away in big numbers, they need placating not criticising
fantastic post
Title: Re: 1988
Post by: GB Alty on January 29, 2017, 06:49:14 PM
Fylde didn't get out of second gear. The same "we can't be expected to beat fyide/Chorley" stuff being trotted out as last week. The same Fylde that lost to curzon Ashton last week, the same curzon Ashton that won at Darlington Yesterday where we will register another tame surrender in a fortnight and Hear we can't be expected to compete with Darlington. Something seriously wrong here and people are worrying about a few jocular chants by the most patient and dispirited fan base in the country. By the end of this month we will have won 15 league games in TWO YEARS, And still people turn up week in week out. That was incredible turn out yesterday considering everyone knew what we were going to encounter. Those in attendance deserve a medal. Had we been even midtable you'd have seen another hundred in attendance. Keep hearing be careful what you wish for being banded about, well that works two ways. Goodwill only extends so far. And the core long term support of this club is drifting away in big numbers, they need placating not criticising
we can't compete, and next season we won't be able to compete with the likes of Buxton, Nantwich or Matlock never mind Hednesford or Stafford

Rowley's legacy