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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: JTH on January 15, 2017, 01:51:33 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQqClHbOUk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQqClHbOUk&feature=youtu.be)
Sounds rather like it to me. The current management must have been offered the job for 2017-8 otherwise on whose authority are they securing players' services? The core of players RL talks about should now be the first names on the team sheet going forward. Unfortunately, the remaining league games (beyond damage limitation in some cases) are really ultra competitive friendlies in preparation for next season.
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I have said that for a couple of weeks so I am quite happy with that statement. I am absolutely sickened that the club has got itself in this pathetic, embarrassing, crappy mess.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
yeah. We're gonna piss that tin pot league!
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Excellent news re. Sean Miller and Lawrence Taylor.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
yeah. We're gonna piss that tin pot league!
If you gave them a tin pot to piss in they'd miss it and ruin the carpet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQqClHbOUk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQqClHbOUk&feature=youtu.be)
Sounds rather like it to me. The current management must have been offered the job for 2017-8 otherwise on whose authority are they securing players' services? The core of players RL talks about should now be the first names on the team sheet going forward. Unfortunately, the remaining league games (beyond damage limitation in some cases) are really ultra competitive friendlies in preparation for next season.
It didn't sound to me like he and Matt and Graham have been given any assurances about being in charge next season. They've certainly done nothing to earn such faith. You could take the view that we shouldn't be contracting players until we know who will be managing us next season but then we might lose a lot of players in the meantime that that manager would have wanted to keep.
I welcome the more realistic tone of this interview. Far preferable to MD's 'the season starts here' guff.
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Good interview. I appreciate the results have not improved but I would stick with the management team next year. The standard of players have improved since they came in. All who have signed could play in the league below and do well. Maybe play McWilliams over Brownhill. With getting Sean Miller and Lawrence Taylor on contracts is excellent news.
This mess is now 80% mentality and shocking defending. If we had a Leather type defender then we would start picking up points. Mentality is a huge factor in football.
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Haven't got time to listen to the interview right now but the last thing we need is a lunatic coming in and releasing all the players that aren't on contracts. We've tried that. On that basis it is good that we are getting signatures.
While I know what you mean about it just being friendlies until the end of the season I hope we can do a bit more than that and not finish bottom. There's no glory in getting relegated but there's a small amount of pride available in not finishing bottom.
On top of that we need to start the season with the right mindset and that's not going to be one where we lost the last however many games. If we want to come back up we've probably got to beat Stalybridge and Gainsborough next season and at the moment that's still a big ask.
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I do like RL interviews at the moment, about the only thing I do like.
They are at least trying to do the right thing by the club in securing players who want to play in the Evostik on contracts. The next few weeks though are going to get very ugly and with the current squads weak mentality you really do worry, it could be double figure at Fylde.
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Great news about regarding the 2 signings. Doesn't matter who's in charge next season these 2 will be more than capable of doing a job for us.
Yet to be convinced about the current management team. They have though brought in better quality players than they have released.
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Good signings. Obviously Sean Miller has been the player of the season and Lawrence Taylor has impressed with his performances so far. Sounds like Matt and Robbie will be in charge next year otherwise allowing them to put together a core of 8-9 players and then bringing in a new man is a another disastrous move. I don't think the board have a clue who they want and are obviously scared to death of making another cock up. Let's hope Matt and Robbie get it right.
I'd be releasing Dawber, Cyrus , Patterson , McWilliams , Lawrie , Hobson , Reeves , Goodall, Wilko (not enough desire). . The rest I'd probably keep. Not sure about Brownhill or Owens yet and have concerns about Deasey but believe he is on a contract.
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Good signings. Obviously Sean Miller has been the player of the season and Lawrence Taylor has impressed with his performances so far. Sounds like Matt and Robbie will be in charge next year otherwise allowing them to put together a core of 8-9 players and then bringing in a new man is a another disastrous move. I don't think the board have a clue who they want and are obviously scared to death of making another cock up. Let's hope Matt and Robbie get it right.
I'd be releasing Dawber, Cyrus , Patterson , McWilliams , Lawrie , Hobson , Reeves , Goodall, Wilko (not enough desire). . The rest I'd probably keep. Not sure about Brownhill or Owens yet and have concerns about Deasey but believe he is on a contract.
Agree with all the above except McWilliams who I think is a half decent left back and a better option than Brownhill.
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Good signings. Obviously Sean Miller has been the player of the season and Lawrence Taylor has impressed with his performances so far. Sounds like Matt and Robbie will be in charge next year otherwise allowing them to put together a core of 8-9 players and then bringing in a new man is a another disastrous move. I don't think the board have a clue who they want and are obviously scared to death of making another cock up. Let's hope Matt and Robbie get it right.
I'd be releasing Dawber, Cyrus , Patterson , McWilliams , Lawrie , Hobson , Reeves , Goodall, Wilko (not enough desire). . The rest I'd probably keep. Not sure about Brownhill or Owens yet and have concerns about Deasey but believe he is on a contract.
I'm not too far off agreeing with you list though would keep McWilliams and perhaps Lawrie.
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Good signings. Obviously Sean Miller has been the player of the season and Lawrence Taylor has impressed with his performances so far. Sounds like Matt and Robbie will be in charge next year otherwise allowing them to put together a core of 8-9 players and then bringing in a new man is a another disastrous move. I don't think the board have a clue who they want and are obviously scared to death of making another cock up. Let's hope Matt and Robbie get it right.
I'd be releasing Dawber, Cyrus , Patterson , McWilliams , Lawrie , Hobson , Reeves , Goodall, Wilko (not enough desire). . The rest I'd probably keep. Not sure about Brownhill or Owens yet and have concerns about Deasey but believe he is on a contract.
I too would keep the current management team. We seem to be playing the least worst football under them just about and of course it will take time for them to put right the absolute mess that is Altrincham post colchester so I'll have patience.
In terms of players I think wilkinson has potentially the best vision in the team so think he'd be an asset to have in the league below. Reeves, although anonymous for most of this season for whatever reason I think could also possibly thrive in an attacking side in the league below especially now that miller is signed up. Same goes for James Lawrie who is still our top scorer this season.
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The footage from 07:15 to 07:40 should be on a continuous loop in the dressing room.
If they want out, the players should go now. Leave.
The players who don't have the desire to play for ALTY can go. They won't find many better clubs at this level. They get paid on time, all the time. Serious injuries are treated, players are given time to recover and not just shown the door. Everything is done to support them.
They want to go, just go. Now.
Bring on May 2018.
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I agree with alot of the sentiments in this thread. We can't keep changing managers and players and we desperately need stability. Yes, results under MD haven't been great, but we need to build something up. Of course the present management team are in the best position to negotiate with the 6-8 half decent players we have. I believe Jones and Clee will probably stay if MD does. Jones, Clee, Taylor and Miller is at least something to build around. The rest of the players, I just don't know.
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I agree with alot of the sentiments in this thread. We can't keep changing managers and players and we desperately need stability. Yes, results under MD haven't been great, but we need to build something up. Of course the present management team are in the best position to negotiate with the 6-8 half decent players we have. I believe Jones and Clee will probably stay if MD does. Jones, Clee, Taylor and Miller is at least something to build around. The rest of the players, I just don't know.
Clee is under contract until the end of next season so will be staying.
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With the greatest of respect, there is not a cat in hells chance Matt Doughty would be spoken about as a possible managerial candidate for next season if he didn't used to be our left back. Statistically, he is possibly the worst assistant manager we've had in our entire history(?), and as temporary manager he has 1 point from 15 despite being given funds to bring his own players in.
I like Buzz a lot, and I hope he goes on to be as successful and well thought of as a manager as he was as a player. I really hope he can rebuild his career and someone takes a chance on him somewhere, however there is no way that someone should be us! Next season is far too important for a sentimental appointment. Even in our current position the job of being manager of Altrincham FC is still worth more than that.
No issue with Rowley roping a few of his mates in to get us through the rest of the season. Someone has to. But let's not confuse that with a need for continuity.
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With the greatest of respect, there is not a cat in hells chance Matt Doughty would be spoken about as a possible managerial candidate for next season if he didn't used to be our left back. Statistically, he is possibly the worst assistant manager we've had in our entire history(?), and as temporary manager he has 1 point from 15 despite being given funds to bring his own players in.
I like Buzz a lot, and I hope he goes on to be as successful and well thought of as a manager as he was as a player. I really hope he can rebuild his career and someone takes a chance on him somewhere, however there is no way that someone should be us! Next season is far too important for a sentimental appointment. Even in our current position the job of being manager of Altrincham FC is still worth more than that.
No issue with Rowley roping a few of his mates in to get us through the rest of the season. Someone has to. But let's not confuse that with a need for continuity.
Excellent post!!
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Clee is under contract until the end of next season so will be staying.
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Wasn't he under contract at Harrogate too?
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Clee is under contract until the end of next season so will be staying.
Wasn't he under contract at Harrogate too?
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Do you think he wanted to leave?
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I could be wrong, but didn't Nicky state that MD was a big reason he returned to Alty?
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With the greatest of respect, there is not a cat in hells chance Matt Doughty would be spoken about as a possible managerial candidate for next season if he didn't used to be our left back. Statistically, he is possibly the worst assistant manager we've had in our entire history(?), and as temporary manager he has 1 point from 15 despite being given funds to bring his own players in.
I like Buzz a lot, and I hope he goes on to be as successful and well thought of as a manager as he was as a player. I really hope he can rebuild his career and someone takes a chance on him somewhere, however there is no way that someone should be us! Next season is far too important for a sentimental appointment. Even in our current position the job of being manager of Altrincham FC is still worth more than that.
No issue with Rowley roping a few of his mates in to get us through the rest of the season. Someone has to. But let's not confuse that with a need for continuity.
Spot on.
These were the words of Grahame Rowley in the club's official press release regarding the sacking of Jim Harvey:
"'There are no green shoots of recovery, which is the least you need to persevere with things as they are and give the manager more time. It hurts to say it, but we are drifting, and, as a board, we simply can't sit by and allow that to happen.
'This club has a great tradition, with a fighting spirit at the very heart of it, and we want to get that back. That's why the next appointment is so important. We want to make sure it is the right one, rather than a rushed one. It will be a thorough process, to try and ensure we find someone who can put that fighting spirit out on the pitch."
That should amount to more than Doughty just knocking on the chairman's door and asking to be given the job.
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So, which manager do posters suggest then? And how long would he get this time? I went the Curzon boss last time, but why would he come to us?
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The key word is in the last sentence Barry : "should".
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I could be wrong, but didn't Nicky state that MD was a big reason he returned to Alty?
I think he did, but Harrogate's move to full-time status next season would surely have been unwelcome to him at this stage in his career and with his good day job (and could also be construed as constructive unfair dismissal if anyone tried to argue about contracts).
With regard to the managerial appointment, as Matt says, it's certainly not the time for a sentimental decision, or for someone to just inherit the job, although there is also no point in doing anything this season.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
the signing up of anybof this seasons sh*t can hardly be described as fantastic news
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
the signing up of anybof this seasons sh*t can hardly be described as fantastic news
Sean Miller has been our best player by a distance and he wouldn't be out of place in the promotion-chasing squads of this league. Having him on board for an Evo-Stik campaign should prove to be huge. I'd say it's pretty fantastic, personally.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
the signing up of anybof this seasons sh*t can hardly be described as fantastic news
Little of that mud sticks to Clee, and none to young Taylor.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
the signing up of anybof this seasons sh*t can hardly be described as fantastic news
Sean Miller has been our best player by a distance and he wouldn't be out of place in the promotion-chasing squads of this league. Having him on board for an Evo-Stik campaign should prove to be huge. I'd say it's pretty fantastic, personally.
Agreed
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
the signing up of anybof this seasons sh*t can hardly be described as fantastic news
Sean Miller has been our best player by a distance and he wouldn't be out of place in the promotion-chasing squads of this league. Having him on board for an Evo-Stik campaign should prove to be huge. I'd say it's pretty fantastic, personally.
Average at best, and would get nowhere near promotion chasing squads. We're going to need battlers next season not luxury drift in and out of the game fancy dam like Sean Miller
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Sean Miller has been hacked down numerous times this season and has been putting a shift in when there was precious little being shown in other positions on the pitch. Before Nicky re-signed he was the only player taking it to the opposition.
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Teams need a balance, ratters, enforcers and flair players.
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Fantastic news about Sean Miller. He'll have that league on toast.
the signing up of anybof this seasons sh*t can hardly be described as fantastic news
Sean Miller has been our best player by a distance and he wouldn't be out of place in the promotion-chasing squads of this league. Having him on board for an Evo-Stik campaign should prove to be huge. I'd say it's pretty fantastic, personally.
Average at best, and would get nowhere near promotion chasing squads. We're going to need battlers next season not luxury drift in and out of the game fancy dam like Sean Miller
Drift in and out of the game whilst also scoring 10 goals, in 19 starts, in an absolutely rotten team. Some of his finishes have been a class above what the rest of this squad can provide. He also works very hard. Luxury players like James Lawrie I can agree with, but Miller has been consistently decent.
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Anybody involved in a squad on 8 points in mid January should not be offered a contract in mid January.
Shambles
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With the greatest of respect, there is not a cat in hells chance Matt Doughty would be spoken about as a possible managerial candidate for next season if he didn't used to be our left back. Statistically, he is possibly the worst assistant manager we've had in our entire history(?), and as temporary manager he has 1 point from 15 despite being given funds to bring his own players in.
I like Buzz a lot, and I hope he goes on to be as successful and well thought of as a manager as he was as a player. I really hope he can rebuild his career and someone takes a chance on him somewhere, however there is no way that someone should be us! Next season is far too important for a sentimental appointment. Even in our current position the job of being manager of Altrincham FC is still worth more than that.
No issue with Rowley roping a few of his mates in to get us through the rest of the season. Someone has to. But let's not confuse that with a need for continuity.
What about Buzz putting players on contract for next season?
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If we don't see any signs of improvement this season under the current management set up it would be madness to appoint them for next season
I'm hoping they do start to make a difference just as I did for young and Harvey
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These were the words of Grahame Rowley in the club's official press release regarding the sacking of Jim Harvey:
"'There are no green shoots of recovery, which is the least you need to persevere with things as they are and give the manager more time. It hurts to say it, but we are drifting, and, as a board, we simply can't sit by and allow that to happen.
'This club has a great tradition, with a fighting spirit at the very heart of it, and we want to get that back. That's why the next appointment is so important. We want to make sure it is the right one, rather than a rushed one. It will be a thorough process, to try and ensure we find someone who can put that fighting spirit out on the pitch."
That should amount to more than Doughty just knocking on the chairman's door and asking to be given the job.
Looks like Graham Rowley's word is worth sh*t as usual. No thorough process has been through here yet Doughty/Lawton signing up players for next season already spending the budget
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When Rowley sacked Harvey he promised that we would make every effort to stay up, that we were a Club with battling qualities and that they wanted to get the Club back there. He then promised us a thorough search for a new manager. This didn't happen and for no other reason than he's a mate, Doughty was given the job to the end of the season. There has been no improvement in performances or results and we are now beyond hope of staying up. 7 of the starting 11 yesterday were Doughtys signings and an 8th player, Deasy he worked with last season and the 3 subs he brought on he also worked with last season - this is Doughty's team and he can have no excuses why the team hasn't performed. The Chairman allows him to sign players on for next season and now we hear that he is demanding to know if he has the job next season, only 2 weeks after being given the job until the season's end. He should have learnt about about appointing friends after the Tolson debacle but obviously not.
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Maybe we should start a phoenix club like 1874 Northwich.
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I think we at least need an effective Supporters Association.
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Maybe we should start a phoenix club like 1874 Northwich.
I would support that
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Maybe we should start a phoenix club like 1874 Northwich.
Vice were terminal. We are not. The mess we are in needs good leadership which has been sadly lacking in the last eighteen months. Splitting
up the fan base with a phoenix is not what the club requires.
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I'd suggest the fan base is already split
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I'd suggest the fan base is already split
996.
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I said split not deserted. There are some who think the Board walk on water, some who are ambivalent to the current situation and those who have lost faith in the Board. In almost 30 years of watching Alty, things haven't been this bad.
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I said split not deserted. There are some who think the Board walk on water, some who are ambivalent to the current situation and those who have lost faith in the Board. In almost 30 years of watching Alty, things haven't been this bad.
The situation in the medium term is recoverable, by which I mean an immediate promotion next season (and nothing less). Personally I beleive anybody heavily involved in the process that gave Young the job must go before the end of this season in a controlled orderly manner. Would I support a fans club if they stayed on? No. It would take more, far more than that, to drag me away from Alty. I'll do what the majority of fans do up and down the land. Pay up, shout a bit and cross my fingers.
This really hurts.
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I sympathise. I don't agree with Phoenix clubs, unless your club ceases to exist then there's no reason for them. Unfortunately you're hopes for someone to take responsibility and depart will be dashed. I can't see any changes happening at either board level or in the dugout before next season starts in August. Business as usual in the Evostick.
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As someone who's veering between the second and third categories, (ambivalent and losing faith in the board) depending largely on what happens until the end of the season and then the managerial appointment, I still don't think it's time for a phoenix club.
The difference with Vics and many other clubs is that, while the board have made poor decisions, with the benefit of hindsight,, they have been made in what they they thought were the best interests of the club, and that is completely different to the likes of Rushe and Connett.
So, I agree with York Alty, for now. I hope we don't have a fans' club, with the proviso that they may change depending on what happens next season - let alone the problems of finding a ground and a league to play in as the North West Counties League is full, for once, this year.
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I don't want one myself.....just threw it into the mix to canvass views.
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I don't want one myself.....just threw it into the mix to canvass views.
I'm torn really. My beloved Alty has turned into Rowley FC and I'm thinking how low are we going to sink before something has to be done.
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Blackpool and Coventry are examples of clubs who are in a lot worse position and they haven't started new clubs so definitely a no from me.
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I do think it's time for a change at the top, certainly at the end of the season. But a phoenix club, no way.
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Not an option for me.
Change from within.
Everything at the club is in place for National League football and also play a massive part in the community. I don't think both are mutually exclusive.
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I don't want one myself.....just threw it into the mix to canvass views.
I'm torn really. My beloved Alty has turned into Rowley FC and I'm thinking how low are we going to sink before something has to be done.
I can see why people would be torn, and it's a tragic state of affairs that long-standing supporters are staying away and more will surely follow next season. I have no confidence that anything will change anytime soon though.
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I don't want one myself.....just threw it into the mix to canvass views.
I'm torn really. My beloved Alty has turned into Rowley FC and I'm thinking how low are we going to sink before something has to be done.
I have no confidence that anything will change anytime soon though.
For "no" read "every". For "anything" read "nothing".
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I don't want one myself.....just threw it into the mix to canvass views.
I'm torn really. My beloved Alty has turned into Rowley FC and I'm thinking how low are we going to sink before something has to be done.
I have no confidence that anything will change anytime soon though.
For "no" read "every". For "anything" read "nothing".
Don't fault me for trying to be optimistic (if slightly unreasonable).
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Blackpool and Coventry are examples of clubs who are in a lot worse position and they haven't started new clubs so definitely a no from me.
Actually, there is one in Coventry. Coventry United are currently 7th in the Midland League Premier Division (North West Counties Premier equivalent), ground-sharing with Coventry Sphinx, where they have an average attendance of 88. That figure, and the fact you haven't heard of them, does back up your argument very strongly, though.
http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/coventryunited/a/club-history-33516.html (http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/coventryunited/a/club-history-33516.html)
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breakaway afc no way
a relaunched supporters club with a direct aim of attracting new shareholders and convincing current shareholders to pass the baton...absolutely...
Geoff Goodwin once asked why STAR wanted anymore than one share in the club...he was baffled why supporters putting in 10k at least every season wanted anymore ownership and say in their club......10k is not an awful lot, but it's year on year and if other shareholders put in pro rata we'd be much more competitive and those shareholders might just demand a bit more on the pitch success of the incumbent board in return.
Do the current major shareholders deserve to allow the club to stagnate on the basis of a few years involvement they had many moons ago.......did they ever seriously see shares in Altrincham fc as an investment they'd expect a return on??.....i'd ask current shareholders why they want anymore than one share in the club.....and i'd want a lot more transparency into their answers!!! These people need shaming...
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Where does the figure of 10K come from? Is that fund raising activities?
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Phoenix clubs are a fad that have been initiated by the only ever genuine need for a phoenix club in my mind which is AFC Wimbledon.
A club being owned and intentionally dragged into the mire by a pillock should be made a criminal offence in itself, a la Jim Rushe.
Our board may well be pillocks and dragging us into the mire, but its not intentional, they dont want to do this, they just dont have the first idea how to stop the spiral they have created.
We, as supporters, do have means to resolve this. Enough proper protest and action from supporters group would initiate change, and before you decree that as nonsense just consider that so far all people have done is a few nasty chants that lasted a few minutes at most, moan on a forum and answer a few questionaires with a strongly worded sense of dissatisfaction.
I'd suggest if some people are really that fed up with the board and want immediate action then they organise some proper protests because so far we havent even scratched the surface. Its all rhetoric. If your fed up stand outside the tunrstile with leaflets to the floaters, chant all game, have banners, barricade the board in the CSH and make them explain themselves and give answers. Thats the start of a proper protest.
Saying you'd support a phoenix club is about as protesty as wearing odd socks on purpose.
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Wouldn't support a breakaway club in the slightest at the moment but there are other examples of successes that mean they aren't always just fads.
Hereford for example, getting massive crowds.
My local team Rushden and Diamonds are averaging around 500 in the Evostick second flight and got over 1100 for an Fa cup game with Barwell last season and for the Northants Cup final against Kettrin'.
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Where does the figure of 10K come from? Is that fund raising activities?
Yep....generally the fans put in this figure through various fundraising activities.....which makes us fans as a body pretty big investors over ten years....
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Wouldn't support a breakaway club in the slightest at the moment but there are other examples of successes that mean they aren't always just fads.
Hereford for example, getting massive crowds.
My local team Rushden and Diamonds are averaging around 500 in the Evostick second flight and got over 1100 for an Fa cup game with Barwell last season and for the Northants Cup final against Kettrin'.
There's a difference between breakaway clubs where fans set up an alternative to the original club which still exists; and phoenix clubs where the original closed down.
A breakaway club would be a waste of time in my view. Better to work at changing our own club.
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Wouldn't support a breakaway club in the slightest at the moment but there are other examples of successes that mean they aren't always just fads.
Hereford for example, getting massive crowds.
My local team Rushden and Diamonds are averaging around 500 in the Evostick second flight and got over 1100 for an Fa cup game with Barwell last season and for the Northants Cup final against Kettrin'.
I'm clubbing breakaway and Phoenix clubs together. The original club shouldn't be allowed to die, individuals should be held properly to account and the FA should be deciding the continuation of the official club. It's a disaster that a club has to reform as a new entity and lose its history and identity.
We'all have to sink a lot further before that's a reality.
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I think even the notion of a Phoenix club being mentioned, no matter how serious, should be embarrassing for the Board.
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I think even the notion of a Phoenix club being mentioned, no matter how serious, should be embarrassing for the Board.
Valid point.
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Matt Doughty asks supporters to ‘stick with him’ as he starts the rebuilding process for Altrincham FC:
https://jactal.wordpress.com/2017/01/15/matt-doughty-asks-supporters-to-stick-with-him-as-he-starts-the-rebuilding-process-for-altrincham-f-c/ (https://jactal.wordpress.com/2017/01/15/matt-doughty-asks-supporters-to-stick-with-him-as-he-starts-the-rebuilding-process-for-altrincham-f-c/)
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"the notion that the manager is remaining level-headed by putting out a fail-safe plan for next season this early on, must be of some reassurance."
Where do you start...?
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"the notion that the manager is remaining level-headed by putting out a fail-safe plan for next season this early on, must be of some reassurance."
Where do you start...?
It's not...
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Phoenix clubs are a fad that have been initiated by the only ever genuine need for a phoenix club in my mind which is AFC Wimbledon.
A club being owned and intentionally dragged into the mire by a pillock should be made a criminal offence in itself, a la Jim Rushe.
Our board may well be pillocks and dragging us into the mire, but its not intentional, they dont want to do this, they just dont have the first idea how to stop the spiral they have created.
We, as supporters, do have means to resolve this. Enough proper protest and action from supporters group would initiate change, and before you decree that as nonsense just consider that so far all people have done is a few nasty chants that lasted a few minutes at most, moan on a forum and answer a few questionaires with a strongly worded sense of dissatisfaction.
I'd suggest if some people are really that fed up with the board and want immediate action then they organise some proper protests because so far we havent even scratched the surface. Its all rhetoric. If your fed up stand outside the tunrstile with leaflets to the floaters, chant all game, have banners, barricade the board in the CSH and make them explain themselves and give answers. Thats the start of a proper protest.
Saying you'd support a phoenix club is about as protesty as wearing odd socks on purpose.
I started my own protest on Saturday by singing songs from past heroes to show how far we have gone, pity was I didn't explain it.
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Phoenix clubs are a fad that have been initiated by the only ever genuine need for a phoenix club in my mind which is AFC Wimbledon.
A club being owned and intentionally dragged into the mire by a pillock should be made a criminal offence in itself, a la Jim Rushe.
Our board may well be pillocks and dragging us into the mire, but its not intentional, they dont want to do this, they just dont have the first idea how to stop the spiral they have created.
We, as supporters, do have means to resolve this. Enough proper protest and action from supporters group would initiate change, and before you decree that as nonsense just consider that so far all people have done is a few nasty chants that lasted a few minutes at most, moan on a forum and answer a few questionaires with a strongly worded sense of dissatisfaction.
I'd suggest if some people are really that fed up with the board and want immediate action then they organise some proper protests because so far we havent even scratched the surface. Its all rhetoric. If your fed up stand outside the tunrstile with leaflets to the floaters, chant all game, have banners, barricade the board in the CSH and make them explain themselves and give answers. Thats the start of a proper protest.
Saying you'd support a phoenix club is about as protesty as wearing odd socks on purpose.
I started my own protest on Saturday by singing songs from past heroes to show how far we have gone, pity was I didn't explain it.
Ooh Barry Diamond,Ooh Barry Diamond
Oh Barry Crowe,Barry Barry Crowe
Ooh Ah Dave Cockram
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Now might be a very good time for a Supporters club launch, would there be much interest?
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Now might be a very good time for a Supporters club launch, would there be much interest?
In competition with TASC? happy to join both...
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So, which manager do posters suggest then? And how long would he get this time? I went the Curzon boss last time, but why would he come to us?
I have it on good authority that'd he'd have joined us when we were 20th after Young left. Missed opportunity?
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Alongside or instead of, I believe TASC is relaunching but that serves more of a cheerleader to the Board than anything else. Club staff sit on the committee and Board members including the Chairman attend meetings. I don't doubt the work that has been put in but supporters need a voice at this time.
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Phoenix clubs are a fad that have been initiated by the only ever genuine need for a phoenix club in my mind which is AFC Wimbledon.
A club being owned and intentionally dragged into the mire by a pillock should be made a criminal offence in itself, a la Jim Rushe.
Our board may well be pillocks and dragging us into the mire, but its not intentional, they dont want to do this, they just dont have the first idea how to stop the spiral they have created.
We, as supporters, do have means to resolve this. Enough proper protest and action from supporters group would initiate change, and before you decree that as nonsense just consider that so far all people have done is a few nasty chants that lasted a few minutes at most, moan on a forum and answer a few questionaires with a strongly worded sense of dissatisfaction.
I'd suggest if some people are really that fed up with the board and want immediate action then they organise some proper protests because so far we havent even scratched the surface. Its all rhetoric. If your fed up stand outside the tunrstile with leaflets to the floaters, chant all game, have banners, barricade the board in the CSH and make them explain themselves and give answers. Thats the start of a proper protest.
Saying you'd support a phoenix club is about as protesty as wearing odd socks on purpose.
I started my own protest on Saturday by singing songs from past heroes to show how far we have gone, pity was I didn't explain it.
I thought that was just top teasing... did we have a song for Phil power ? 😉
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Phoenix clubs are a fad that have been initiated by the only ever genuine need for a phoenix club in my mind which is AFC Wimbledon.
A club being owned and intentionally dragged into the mire by a pillock should be made a criminal offence in itself, a la Jim Rushe.
Our board may well be pillocks and dragging us into the mire, but its not intentional, they dont want to do this, they just dont have the first idea how to stop the spiral they have created.
We, as supporters, do have means to resolve this. Enough proper protest and action from supporters group would initiate change, and before you decree that as nonsense just consider that so far all people have done is a few nasty chants that lasted a few minutes at most, moan on a forum and answer a few questionaires with a strongly worded sense of dissatisfaction.
I'd suggest if some people are really that fed up with the board and want immediate action then they organise some proper protests because so far we havent even scratched the surface. Its all rhetoric. If your fed up stand outside the tunrstile with leaflets to the floaters, chant all game, have banners, barricade the board in the CSH and make them explain themselves and give answers. Thats the start of a proper protest.
Saying you'd support a phoenix club is about as protesty as wearing odd socks on purpose.
I started my own protest on Saturday by singing songs from past heroes to show how far we have gone, pity was I didn't explain it.
I thought that was just top teasing... did we have a song for Phil power ? 😉
We didn't need the song seeing as Toff came dressed as him.