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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mausoleum Alty on January 07, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
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Time to start planning for next season in The Evostick League. Players signed on so far....
Deasy
?? ?? Hannigan ??
Miller ?? Taylor Clee
?? ??
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Next season unless its 5 quid in f**k it
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Next season unless its 5 quid in f**k it
It won't be a fiver mate but anymore than a tenner and they're taking the piss!!
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7 quid for an adult next year. Can't charge a tenner for evo stick football surely
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Not sure about Owens yet
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Time to start planning for next season in The Evostick League. Decide who we want to keep(and if they want to stay)and who we don't and start to identify players we hope to bring in. If they want to stay,can prove their fitness and can adapt to the new budget I'd keep.....
Deasy
Densmore ????? Hannigan Brownhill
Miller Moult G Jones Clee
Owens ??????
Subs....Cyrus,McWilliams,Paterson,Richman,??striker??
Squad....Heathcote,Cain,A Jones(GK)+Reserve/Youth
Release...Reeves,Wilkinson,Lawrie,Goodall,McDonald
Ripping the team up and starting again has proved the wrong option and with a good pre season and a bit of confidence I reckon with a couple of additions this team can get us back up.
I think Densmore is goosed
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Not a chance of it being less than £10 next year. Reckon we'll need to change around 11-12 in order to be able to continue to thrive as we are now.
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I won't pay more than a tenner to watch Evostik - no chance, particularly as driving from West Lancs.
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Ten quid absolute tops. If they go with more I think it could backfire on them.
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Not a chance of it being less than £10 next year. Reckon we'll need to change around 11-12 in order to be able to continue to thrive as we are now.
:D
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Hednesford charge £12 Seating and £11 Standing. It makes sense that we fall in line with them after all we need stay competitive. Other income streams will be reduced also.
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Not a chance of it being less than £10 next year. Reckon we'll need to change around 11-12 in order to be able to continue to thrive as we are now.
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top teasing
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Hednesford charge £12 Seating and £11 Standing. It makes sense that we fall in line with them after all we need stay competitive. Other income streams will be reduced also.
They have just sold a player to a premier league club so could be very competitive next season if they dont go up, also Stourbridge will have fa cup money.
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Hednesford charge £12 Seating and £11 Standing. It makes sense that we fall in line with them after all we need stay competitive. Other income streams will be reduced also.
They have just sold a player to a premier league club so could be very competitive next season if they dont go up, also Stourbridge will have fa cup money.
we will struggle to compete no doubt
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Too many thriving clubs in the Evo-Stik, we will be one amongst many.
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I stil think Rowley will resign soon even tho I like the guy he will bite the bullet
His mistake wanting the Olympic legacy at moslane
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I stil think Rowley will resign soon even tho I like the guy he will bite the bullet
His mistake wanting the Olympic legacy at moslane
Don't hold your breath.
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Why does anyone think we'd be contenders next season? First job is stop the slide. We'll do well to finish in the top half.
Keep Gary Jones as player/coach, one or two others and start again with the rest. We should be fielding these young lads who gave Macc a game.
I keep holding on to a faint bit of hope but I think the flames gone out now. Dead and buried!
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Time to start planning for next season in The Evostick League. Decide who we want to keep(and if they want to stay)and who we don't and start to identify players we hope to bring in. If they want to stay,can prove their fitness and can adapt to the new budget I'd keep.....
Deasy
Densmore ????? Hannigan Brownhill
Miller Moult G Jones Clee
Owens ??????
Subs....Cyrus,McWilliams,Paterson,Richman,??striker??
Squad....Heathcote,Cain,A Jones(GK)+Reserve/Youth
Release...Reeves,Wilkinson,Lawrie,Goodall,McDonald
Ripping the team up and starting again has proved the wrong option and with a good pre season and a bit of confidence I reckon with a couple of additions this team can get us back up.
I can see the clear advantages to preparing early for next season, but I would have reservations over who was going to make such key decisions at the moment.
It would probably have to be the interim management team or the board, and wouldn't send any of them out for a loaf, never mind letting them loose on trying to build us a team for next year.
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Once relegation is confirmed, a new manager should be brought in with the target of promotion and be given the budget to achieve that. If the board are staying then they need to pull their fingers out and sort the mess out.
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Why does anyone think we'd be contenders next season? First job is stop the slide. We'll do well to finish in the top half.
Keep Gary Jones as player/coach, one or two others and start again with the rest. We should be fielding these young lads who gave Macc a game.
I keep holding on to a faint bit of hope but I think the flames gone out now. Dead and buried!
I'm just trying to be optimistic
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I'd keep Buzz as boss and get him to find out which of the 6 or 7 decent players (Jones, Clee, Hannigan, Patterson, Miller etc) would be up for a promotion battle next season. I'd definitely play the kids who appear to have given it a bloody good go at Macc. The rest, I just wouldn't select at all now. The likes of Goodall, Moult, Lawrie and Reeves have just let us down this season. Can we just be f**king bold for once?
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We got over 40 points last season . We have mustered 8 so far in a lower leauge . It's all very depressing
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I'd keep Buzz as boss and get him to find out which of the 6 or 7 decent players (Jones, Clee, Hannigan, Patterson, Miller etc) would be up for a promotion battle next season. I'd definitely play the kids who appear to have given it a bloody good go at Macc. The rest, I just wouldn't select at all now. The likes of Goodall, Moult, Lawrie and Reeves have just let us down this season. Can we just be f**king bold for once?
Why would you keep Doughty, he's featured in 3 of our worst ever management teams? We need an experienced man at the helm, not someone who was a decent left back for us a few years ago. If the club is going to try and get back to anywhere near where it should be then we need to get serious.
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I'd keep him as he's currently in the best position to negotiate with the players he'd like to stay next season. We need to keep a spine of half decent, committed players and chopping and changing the manager every 5 minutes will make that much harder. It would certainly be easier to keep Jones and Clee if Buzz stayed on.
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Why does anyone think we'd be contenders next season? First job is stop the slide. We'll do well to finish in the top half.
Keep Gary Jones as player/coach, one or two others and start again with the rest. We should be fielding these young lads who gave Macc a game.
I keep holding on to a faint bit of hope but I think the flames gone out now. Dead and buried!
I'm just trying to be optimistic
Fair play. I'm just a bit wounded wondering if this will ever end. This is simply an incredible run of poor league form.
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Giving Doughty the job would be crazy, an experienced manager would know their reputation already. Whether we can afford them or whether they would want to stay are different things.
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I agree. I've always liked Buzz but I think I'd like to see him win a league game as manager before considering him for the position.
Mind you he got the job on the back of two 0-3 defeats so maybe my standards are a bit exacting.
As for the players, we've had good service off some, a bit less off others but at the moment it's sh*t for sh*t and I think if I never saw most of not all of them again I'd cope to be honest.
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I'd keep him as he's currently in the best position to negotiate with the players he'd like to stay next season. We need to keep a spine of half decent, committed players and chopping and changing the manager every 5 minutes will make that much harder. It would certainly be easier to keep Jones and Clee if Buzz stayed on.
we haven't got a spine of half decent committed players - who would you keep? We need a team for the evostick league
Also I most certainly wouldn't be considering a man who has never won a game of football as a manager ever and who's record as assistant is very poor as well - it's just all crap, even Robbie his assistant is saying there no bouncing back if we go down
Lock the doors now and f**k it off
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Every penny possible needs to be scrapped together even it means an announcement in the M E N
Our budget in the league below has to be the strongest. We should cherry pick the best of the playoff sides and offer good money to some conf north players like Salford did to the Chorley striker
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Had a season tickets for 15+ years but wont be bothering again unless its significantly reduced
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Had a season tickets for 15+ years but wont be bothering again unless its significantly reduced
I hate to say it in a way (NOT personal!), but I agree with you on this. The club must in due course bite the bullet & reduce admission prices to the normal going rate for the league we'll be in - that means £10 in the EvoStik - & cut season ticket prices to match. There will be 24 teams in the EvoStik, so 23 home League games in total. At £10 per game that's £230; apply a 10% reduction for a season ticket & that makes £207. Round it down to £200, add a sweetener in the form of the £10 discount for early renewal & they might hold on to a significant number of the 300 or so s/t holders, myself included. Do anything else & there will be a very significant drop in that number (starting with me), which will impact on close-season income as well as attendance figures in-season. If the powers that be try to maintain the current price levels - which are frankly excessive for the league we're now in, leave alone the one below - they really will be cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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The ground holds 6,000 for me When we get relegated we need to try and keep supporters, especially the younger fans as there is plenty of other attractions for people in this area.
We need to try and sell a huge number of season tickets. Start with a target of selling 500+
Adults £150 seated or standing (reserved seating on request)
Concessions/OAP £50
Under 18s and proper students £20
Try and get the bulk of the support signed up in the summer and keep the prices super low for the u18s to keep them interested in the club, they are the future
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Benchmarks 2016 / 2017 :
Warrington £160 and £90
Ashton Utd £175 and £105 and £150 / £95 if bought before August
Matlock Town £170 and £110............early bird £160 / £105
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Add on to Pete's
£100 Exile ST - get it sponsored by the brewery. Free pint for every game they attend.
Or offer something wacky like £100 ST but you pay £5 for every win
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Add on to Pete's
£100 Exile ST - get it sponsored by the brewery. Free pint for every game they attend.
Or offer something wacky like £100 ST but you pay £5 for every win
Err...a fiver foir a what?
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It sounds great. Where's the money going to come from for the mercenaries you're planning on recruiting?
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tough call this one.....balancing charging loyal fans the appropriate price for the level whilst having a competitive budget to keep our better players.....
The club needs to be proactive on this and talk to the fans.....and we do need to start planning now....the board have some very tough decisions to make and strong communication is needed.....shame is our shareholders are totally apathetic as we could really do with a new board who are completely football focussed and will not accept the standards to which we have stooped.......
Personally I feel if we stick with buzz then a massive drop in prices is needed......an exciting appointment from a young ambitious manager may stimulate interest at current prices......
I do feel at the minimum the board should be showing a bit of pressure on buzz for an end of season run of good form......otherwise the board is saying the current results are the sign of a thriving club....
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Unless Doughty can deliver a run of form which would have kept us up all season then there is no way he should be manager come August.
Jezza is right. We need to stimulate interest. I honestly think that relegation gives us an opportunity to re energise the club, re invent it and start afresh with new blood and new ideas at all levels. The cynic in me sees little change and the same old malaise.
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Plastic glasses and drinking on the terraces should be allowed also. There won't be any away fans so might aswell make it enjoyable for those still bothering
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If we start next season bobbins the crowd will drop down. to keep fans interested in the football
We have to win almost every game or just keep the shutters up at the csh or like Tommy said plastic glasses
Just make it a day out rather than football
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Plastic glasses and drinking on the terraces should be allowed also. There won't be any away fans so might aswell make it enjoyable for those still bothering
Correct. I watch a fair bit of Ryman league level stuff down here and boozing on the terraces in plastics is de rigeur in the Ryman Prem. As said the standard next season will be so woeful it has to be rebranded as more of a day out than a football match if we are going to maintain half decent gates. Maybe bottle of Dunham Massey stuff in or something.
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Plastic glasses and drinking on the terraces should be allowed also. There won't be any away fans so might aswell make it enjoyable for those still bothering
Correct. I watch a fair bit of Ryman league level stuff down here and boozing on the terraces in plastics is de rigeur in the Ryman Prem. As said the standard next season will be so woeful it has to be rebranded as more of a day out than a football match if we are going to maintain half decent gates. Maybe bottle of Dunham Massey stuff in or something.
Could be wrong, but I was always under the impression that Moss Lane is a 'designated' ground, and once you've reached designated status then you can't lose it. We can lose most other things, but not that.
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It sounds great. Where's the money going to come from for the mercenaries you're planning on recruiting?
don't forget we are thriving apparently we have loads of cash
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Although this season is a disaster I think next season is easily doable if the core of the squad can be retained.
If you look at the glue league both Blyth and Matlock are contenders for promotion and they've got games in hand.
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Plastic glasses and drinking on the terraces should be allowed also. There won't be any away fans so might aswell make it enjoyable for those still bothering
Correct. I watch a fair bit of Ryman league level stuff down here and boozing on the terraces in plastics is de rigeur in the Ryman Prem. As said the standard next season will be so woeful it has to be rebranded as more of a day out than a football match if we are going to maintain half decent gates. Maybe bottle of Dunham Massey stuff in or something.
Could be wrong, but I was always under the impression that Moss Lane is a 'designated' ground, and once you've reached designated status then you can't lose it. We can lose most other things, but not that.
When I asked about this I was told it was about the attitude of your licensing authority. I watch a bit of southwest peninsula league (step10) you can't take your drink out in Cornwall but can in Devon!
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Charge £14 next season ang gate will be 300.Charge £10 and gate will be 700. That's £4200 or £7000. Simple basic supply and demand economics. But will our superthick board get to grips with that!
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It's not that simple. A good third aren't paying full price. Even if full price was chopped to a tenner, concessions won't get in for a fiver.
I think a tenner is fair but if we started winning every week I don't think the gate would stay at 300 for very long, even if we charged £14.
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Winning every week lol
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Charge £14 next season ang gate will be 300.Charge £10 and gate will be 700. That's £4200 or £7000. Simple basic supply and demand economics. But will our superthick board get to grips with that!
Supply and demand doesn't apply when there is so much emotion attached.
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Supply and demand doesn't apply anyway. What lba really means is demand will be inversely proportional to price.
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Does that mean next season we will not watch sh*t at any price
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Lol
I'll probably watch anyway because I'd spend a lot more on a Saturday Afternoon if I wasn't at Alty!
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After having a quick look across the league, it averages out at about £9.50 an adult and £5 per concession. The majority of clubs offer free entry to either U16 or U12 fans. I think the latter is the most important here, as we desperately need to build upon the influx of younger fans that we've seen over the past two seasons. We can't afford for them to drift away and it as absolutely imperative that we keep them interested. I'd look at knocking the U16 price down from £5 to £2, to keep these lads coming to games. For U12s, I think its time to bring back the free admission vouchers that did so well a few years back. They could be placed in convenient locations for collection on the week of a game: local school offices, the leisure centre, cafes, youth clubs.
I agree with the idea of branding the club as a "day out" for as long as we're at that level, and part of that has to be maintaining an attraction for punters. With the likes of Stockport, FC United and Salford we've had these mega fixtures to prop us up and keep us attractive this season, not one game will be on par with those next year and so its up to the club to rebuild an attraction that works for this level. Developing a welcoming atmosphere for families is great in itself, but atmosphere and buzz comes from the floating customers having a couple of beers. How do we get them back here despite the drop in league?
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After having a quick look across the league, it averages out at about £9.50 an adult and £5 per concession. The majority of clubs offer free entry to either U16 or U12 fans. I think the latter is the most important here, as we desperately need to build upon the influx of younger fans that we've seen over the past two seasons. We can't afford for them to drift away and it as absolutely imperative that we keep them interested. I'd look at knocking the U16 price down from £5 to £2, to keep these lads coming to games. For U12s, I think its time to bring back the free admission vouchers that did so well a few years back. They could be placed in convenient locations for collection on the week of a game: local school offices, the leisure centre, cafes, youth clubs.
I agree with the idea of branding the club as a "day out" for as long as we're at that level, and part of that has to be maintaining an attraction for punters. With the likes of Stockport, FC United and Salford we've had these mega fixtures to prop us up and keep us attractive this season, not one game will be on par with those next year and so its up to the club to rebuild an attraction that works for this level. Developing a welcoming atmosphere for families is great in itself, but atmosphere and buzz comes from the floating customers having a couple of beers. How do we get them back here despite the drop in league?
Agree on that. I think a big pull next season re:the floating fan could be in allowing drinking in view of the pitch. I know some won't like it but it would definitely attract those that may otherwise be on the fence.
However in another thread I've read that it may not be so simple to implement so might not be an option
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Yes, but if you don't ask, you don't get.
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After having a quick look across the league, it averages out at about £9.50 an adult and £5 per concession. The majority of clubs offer free entry to either U16 or U12 fans. I think the latter is the most important here, as we desperately need to build upon the influx of younger fans that we've seen over the past two seasons. We can't afford for them to drift away and it as absolutely imperative that we keep them interested. I'd look at knocking the U16 price down from £5 to £2, to keep these lads coming to games. For U12s, I think its time to bring back the free admission vouchers that did so well a few years back. They could be placed in convenient locations for collection on the week of a game: local school offices, the leisure centre, cafes, youth clubs.
I agree with the idea of branding the club as a "day out" for as long as we're at that level, and part of that has to be maintaining an attraction for punters. With the likes of Stockport, FC United and Salford we've had these mega fixtures to prop us up and keep us attractive this season, not one game will be on par with those next year and so its up to the club to rebuild an attraction that works for this level. Developing a welcoming atmosphere for families is great in itself, but atmosphere and buzz comes from the floating customers having a couple of beers. How do we get them back here despite the drop in league?
We're looking at u12 situation. Possibly via Facebook or an online version.
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After having a quick look across the league, it averages out at about £9.50 an adult and £5 per concession. The majority of clubs offer free entry to either U16 or U12 fans. I think the latter is the most important here, as we desperately need to build upon the influx of younger fans that we've seen over the past two seasons. We can't afford for them to drift away and it as absolutely imperative that we keep them interested. I'd look at knocking the U16 price down from £5 to £2, to keep these lads coming to games. For U12s, I think its time to bring back the free admission vouchers that did so well a few years back. They could be placed in convenient locations for collection on the week of a game: local school offices, the leisure centre, cafes, youth clubs.
I agree with the idea of branding the club as a "day out" for as long as we're at that level, and part of that has to be maintaining an attraction for punters. With the likes of Stockport, FC United and Salford we've had these mega fixtures to prop us up and keep us attractive this season, not one game will be on par with those next year and so its up to the club to rebuild an attraction that works for this level. Developing a welcoming atmosphere for families is great in itself, but atmosphere and buzz comes from the floating customers having a couple of beers. How do we get them back here despite the drop in league?
Agree on that. I think a big pull next season re:the floating fan could be in allowing drinking in view of the pitch. I know some won't like it but it would definitely attract those that may otherwise be on the fence.
However in another thread I've read that it may not be so simple to implement so might not be an option
Could look at integrating a beer festival / Oktoberfest style event into a home fixture.
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I would not pay 14 pounds to watch evostik football. Get yourself to the vodkat league and watch honest , hardworking teams with heart playing and fighting for every ball.
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One relegation at a time mate.
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Of course the other option is pulling our head out of our backsides , hardening the f**k up and beating some of these teams we're man for man clearly better than. I've not seen a decent side yet this season and we are in January. As ballers says elsewhere and the assistant manager alluded to. Roll your sleeves up and get your bottom lip off the floor.
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Man for man, I doubt we are clearly better than anybody. If I thought we were, it would give me hope, but we have a glass defence and nothing up front at all.
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Updated with the players signed on already for next season.