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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: The Sound of Silence on December 08, 2016, 09:29:48 AM
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I am sure we all remember Mr Sinclair's desperate, but fortunately ultimately futile, efforts to wriggle out of an FA Trophy defeat a few years ago (an event which led me to think that the BBC should add an award to SPOTY for the sporting t**t of the year).
On Saturday there were tragic echoes of this incident which suggest that the FA has learned nowt from the above incident.
Brief facts
1. F A Vase last 64 87 minutes gone Gorleston 0 Basildon 1
2. Gorleston goalkeeper's father in law collapses
3. Air ambulance called and lands on pitch
4. Father in law tragically dies at the scene and match abandoned out of respect
5. FA asks Gorleston if they would like to withdraw from the Vase (I think the implication is that the anticipated answer was "yes")
6. Gorleston speak to the goalkeeper / deceased's family and they say "we want to replay the match".
7. Basildon at that point withdraw from the Vase, giving Gorleston a bye to the last 32.
Apart from wondering why the FA didn't respond to our situation by making a rule that either the result of a match abandoned after (say) 75 minutes stands or the remaining time is played at a later date (actually I know, because the FA is a dysfunctional organisation - witness their response to child abuse issues), I am scratching my head wondering what the just solution to this is, because the current one seems wholly unsatisfactory. Anyone care to do their King Solomon bit?
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I think the game should have been replayed. Had there been three goals between the sides the situation might have been different but it simply isn't possible to say that the outcome would have remained at the score when the game was abandoned. To ask one side to withdraw in these circumstances is to say the least insensitive & the reaction of the other looks a bit like taking your bat home. Common sense solution to me is start again from scratch - but since when did the FA deal in common sense?
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Just play remaining minuets
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Just play remaining minuets
Not feasible at this level. Basildon may have conceded out of respect. But consider the implications of cost too.
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It's a football match not a memorial service, the game should be replayed
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A very commendable withdrawal from Basildon though, assuming it was done out of respect rather than a fit of pique.
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Just play remaining minuets
Not feasible at this level. Basildon may have conceded out of respect. But consider the implications of cost too.
Cost would be the same surely?
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A very commendable withdrawal from Basildon though, assuming it was done out of respect rather than a fit of pique.
I take this point completely.
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Just play remaining minuets
Not feasible at this level. Basildon may have conceded out of respect. But consider the implications of cost too.
Cost would be the same surely?
215 mile round trip and getting time off work for the players to complete a fixture that won't yield a profit ?
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Just play remaining minuets
Not feasible at this level. Basildon may have conceded out of respect. But consider the implications of cost too.
Cost would be the same surely?
215 mile round trip and getting time off work for the players to complete a fixture that won't yield a profit ?
So the cost would be the same if they played the final minutes or full match then?
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Cheaper for the home side to play 3 minutes with no floodlights. One assumes no gate money.
Basildon would get their share of the gate for a full match and would probaby still incur a loss. No brainer.
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The result should have stood. Remember Derby v Fulham a few years ago?
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My take is that the FA were concerned that the sad death of the home supporter was going to possibly influence a result that might have changed in the final few minutes. So rather than being controversial and upholding the score, did give the home side a route to do something respectful and decent. The family possibly wanted the game replayed as a token and symbol on behalf of the deceased. I understand that. I suspect that costs involved plus the likely chance of emotion taking control and affecting performance may be the reason for their decision. There is no correct thing to do in such circumstances.
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Result should stand, only a non-football person would think otherwise. ;)
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Harsh nut it should be replayed. If this incident had occured after tem minutes with Team A winning one nil, would the result have stood? I very much doubt it, so on the basis of conconsistecy and parity it means a replayed game. Very harsh but the only just way.