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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Ashley Alty on October 24, 2016, 10:52:30 AM
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Can we start one?
Maybe a march around the ground tomorrow night with banners and placards? Well 3 sides of it ;)
Surely, it is time for us to re-sign Mr Clee, sosadly missed and just who we desperately need
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+1. He is exactly what we need. Class act and player that is actually arsed about the club.
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Thought this was for Nicky Dawes
Would he want to come back.?
Anyone know where Chris senior is these days?
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Definitely agree and while we're getting Nicky back let's ask County for a couple of players. Glen Rule is sat on his backside most weekends and I'm sure would provide us with much needed creativity in mid-field. It will be in their interests to loan us players as we will be able to take points off teams at their end of the table!
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As said on another thread, what I would give to see him back. Passion, spirit and skill in abundance. Apart from Duncan the most exciting player I have seen in an Alty shirt since I started watching.
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Would absolutely love him back, but we'd play him every week and he'd get injured.
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He's 33 now and although he was good for us I don't think his body is any longer robust enough to play week in week out as we would need him to in our present situation. There must be other Nicky Clee type players out there, id like to think JH will find him.
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He has been playing most weeks for Guisley so he should be fine......
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He's 33 now and although he was good for us I don't think his body is any longer robust enough to play week in week out as we would need him to in our present situation. There must be other Nicky Clee type players out there, id like to think JH will find him.
Unless they played in the 2011 Stalybridge team, JH is having trouble finding anyone. I don't suppose he stands any chance of getting Connor Jennings or that Arthur fella from Worcester down to Moss Lane does he?
We need Nicky back at this club more than anything we've ever needed before and I'm sure the Board know what it takes.
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Clee's contract at Guiseley finishes on 5th November, so he's a free agent in like 10 days.
Snooze you lose, so the powers that be best get their fingers out if they want him.
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Clee's contract at Guiseley finishes on 5th November, so he's a free agent in like 10 days.
Snooze you lose, so the powers that be best get their fingers out if they want him.
bit of an odd contract that ?
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Clee's contract at Guiseley finishes on 5th November, so he's a free agent in like 10 days.
Snooze you lose, so the powers that be best get their fingers out if they want him.
Interesting info - touch of the secret squirrels there?
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Clee's contract at Guiseley finishes on 5th November, so he's a free agent in like 10 days.
Snooze you lose, so the powers that be best get their fingers out if they want him.
bit of an odd contract that ?
3 months from the start of the season, maybe not that odd considering Nicky's injury problems last season. Oh and don't forget which manager signed him for Guiseley!
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Clee's contract at Guiseley finishes on 5th November, so he's a free agent in like 10 days.
Snooze you lose, so the powers that be best get their fingers out if they want him.
bit of an odd contract that ?
3 months from the start of the season, maybe not that odd considering Nicky's injury problems last season. Oh and don't forget which manager signed him for Guiseley!
I thought he was on a 'pay as you play'? If not it might be a straight fight between his current employers, BPA and one other?
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Clee's contract at Guiseley finishes on 5th November, so he's a free agent in like 10 days.
Snooze you lose, so the powers that be best get their fingers out if they want him.
bit of an odd contract that ?
Same contract as Guy Fawkes
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I'd drive him back tomorrow myself. Great player and should never have been allowed to leave
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Yes must be tempting for him rejoin a team 7 points from safety in the league below,and a team further away from where he lives.
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Yes must be tempting for him rejoin a team 7 points from safety in the league below,and a team further away from where he lives.
;D
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Yes must be tempting for him rejoin a team 7 points from safety in the league below,and a team further away from where he lives.
that didn't want him
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Yes must be tempting for him rejoin a team 7 points from safety in the league below,and a team further away from where he lives.
Exactly. Surely we should be looking for someone of a similar ilk who is under 30 and will be able to pull us through the trenches week in week out. Nicky was just one part of a successful team, we cant bring them all back. Its time to look forwards.
We need a midfield enforcer, someone who's going to get angry.
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We badly missed the heart, character and bravery to get on the ball of Nicky Clee last season, and Densmore.
I'd have him back in a heartbeat just for that alone. And those are the hardest players to find it should be said. No quick fix for a lack of those qualities.
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Yes must be tempting for him rejoin a team 7 points from safety in the league below,and a team further away from where he lives.
Exactly. Surely we should be looking for someone of a similar ilk who is under 30 and will be able to pull us through the trenches week in week out. Nicky was just one part of a successful team, we cant bring them all back. Its time to look forwards.
We need a midfield enforcer, someone who's going to get angry.
mick carmody?
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Nicky would then be replacing the current occupant of that position - Sean Miller - one player who is currently putting in some effort and making a contribution as best he can. Unless you move Sean to the right wing.
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When densmore is back pattison should go right wing, I'd love to see it happen but tough tackling midfielders are the crisis at the moment.
Campaign to bring Val Owen back?
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Agree that midfield is our big problem at the moment. The amount of players that spiritually left this club after that defeat at Colchester is unreal. I think Jake Moult is a fantastic player and Richman was invaluable in this team for so long. They both need to get the weight of the world off their shoulders and start enjoying football again. Neither were solely to blame for the teams relegation, they need to know that and get there heads up, and start playing again
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If Densmore ever recovers pattison should go right wing, I'd love to see it happen but tough tackling midfielders are the crisis at the moment.
Campaign to bring Val Owen back?
I've corrected it for you mate
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Is there any evidence that he would want to come back?
Is there any evidence that he is lasting 90 minutes in the league above?
What's past is, I'm afraid, prologue. We need to look forward rather than back.
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If we had Eddie and Val in midfield we wouldn't have got relegated. They put their bodies on the line to get us promoted in 2005. I would have Nicky Clee back as a short term option, even if could only play for 30 mins a game. The main concern though is sorting out the defence.
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If we had Eddie and Val in midfield we wouldn't have got relegated. They put their bodies on the line to get us promoted in 2005. I would have Nicky Clee back as a short term option, even if could only play for 30 mins a game. The main concern though is sorting out the defence.
I'm inclined to agree but they also had strong leaderships as well. It's easy to forget that.
Won promotion with f**k all money . Show me the way to Stoke city
Do we need a new song now ? 😐
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If we had Eddie and Val in midfield we wouldn't have got relegated. They put their bodies on the line to get us promoted in 2005. I would have Nicky Clee back as a short term option, even if could only play for 30 mins a game. The main concern though is sorting out the defence.
I'm inclined to agree but they also had strong leaderships as well. It's easy to forget that.
Won promotion with f**k all money . Show me the way to Stoke city
Do we need a new song now ? 😐
Stuck on you, Lionel Richie?
Stuck in the middle with you, Stealers Wheel
Stuck like glue, Sugarland. Whoever the arse they are.
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He won't be signing for Guisley
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Agree that midfield is our big problem at the moment. The amount of players that spiritually left this club after that defeat at Colchester is unreal. I think Jake Moult is a fantastic player and Richman was invaluable in this team for so long. They both need to get the weight of the world off their shoulders and start enjoying football again. Neither were solely to blame for the teams relegation, they need to know that and get there heads up, and start playing again
I think the manager went spiritually too.
And you're right about the moult and Richman but the things is, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the pre season fitness regime was a shambles. Jake looks overweight, Simon only looks naturally fit rather than football fit (possibly add Lawrie and Reeves to that),a menagerie of players did not enter August physically fit or robust enough to make an impact (Menagh, Hasler-Cregg, Miller), or were never going to be able to shake off injuries/inactivity enough to be effective (Hattersley, dare I say it Goodall).
It simply wasn't good enough and the consequences are lasting and damaging. At no point have I seen us rise above sluggish, I haven't see us fly out of the traps at teams or close down effectively (or as a unit) or cover ground whenever a team moves the ball against us.
Dispiriting.
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Quote from the Guiseley forum regarding Tuesday night's game against Gateshead....."thought Nicky Clee had a really good game". It does look as if Nicky has overcome last season's injury.
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Nicky Clee announces on twitter he's gutted to be leaving Guiseley but family comes first 'on to the next chapter'. Anyone going to training tonight? Or BPA for that matter?
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Their latest description of his performance on Saturday at Aldershot was "excellent". He will be a brilliant signing for any team in our league, let's just hope it's us!
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Their latest description of his performance on Saturday at Aldershot was "excellent". He will be a brilliant signing for any team in our league, let's just hope it's us!
It would also come with the added bonus of effectively re-signing Damiem Reeves too.
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Well we are a "family" Club aren't we?
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https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=29zxkb9z#/watch?v=7vlMcnOkCF4
I can't tell you what that does for me, cos this is a family club!!
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When he says family comes first does that mean he is looking for regional football?
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He's just followed BPA on Twitter and a few BPA players.
If he goes there I'll be furious because we should be throwing the kitchen sink to prevent a relegation rival taking a player
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He's just followed BPA on Twitter and a few BPA players.
If he goes there I'll be furious because we should be throwing the kitchen sink to prevent a relegation rival taking a player
I think that's that then :-(
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He's just followed BPA on Twitter and a few BPA players.
If he goes there I'll be furious because we should be throwing the kitchen sink to prevent a relegation rival taking a player
That's a good point Jack. Realistically in our situation we're not going to attract any great players so it's as much about keeping others down as anything else.
I'd also say that although Miller has a decent shot on him we don't have a natural left winger or seemingly a good left back still.
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He's four years younger than our most recent loan signing.
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He won't be signing for us. If travelling with Guiseley was too much, why would he travel to Alty two or three times a week?
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As a member of the management team, I can asure all supporters that attempts were made to get Nicky back to the club. Unfortunately we can't compete financially with some fellow Conference North clubs in terms of salaries. Much as Nick would have loved to have returned to the club, when significantly increased terms are offered, then "family comes first". Other targets have been identified, but even at our level of football, ££ talks. I can assure all the supporters that efforts continue to strengthen the squad in all areas of the pitch. Hope that clears a few things up.
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As a member of the management team, I can asure all supporters that attempts were made to get Nicky back to the club. Unfortunately we can't compete financially with some fellow Conference North clubs in terms of salaries. Much as Nick would have loved to have returned to the club, when significantly increased terms are offered, then "family comes first". Other targets have been identified, but even at our level of football, ££ talks. I can assure all the supporters that efforts continue to strengthen the squad in all areas of the pitch. Hope that clears a few things up.
Appreciated. I admire Nicky for putting his family first. Cap doffed sir.
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How much would it have cost to put a bit of heart back into this club?
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He has not said "No" to us just yet!
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As a member of the management team, I can asure all supporters that attempts were made to get Nicky back to the club. Unfortunately we can't compete financially with some fellow Conference North clubs in terms of salaries. Much as Nick would have loved to have returned to the club, when significantly increased terms are offered, then "family comes first". Other targets have been identified, but even at our level of football, ££ talks. I can assure all the supporters that efforts continue to strengthen the squad in all areas of the pitch. Hope that clears a few things up.
I thought there was extra money available to keep us up? I presume the Watmore add on money was nearer 10k than 100k then? Another kick in the teeth!
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Many thanks for the update ex-gk. Understandable with regards to nicky. What have those on here that say we don't need any investment got to say? When we are a club that posts four figure attendances, made a profit last season, we're at defcon 2 in footballing terms and we are still getting pied off by village outfits even in these circumstances.
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He has not said "No" to us just yet!
Care to elucidate?
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If he went to Harrogate or Halifax fair enough, but if we're being outbid by BPA, I'd hope the club would try and match it. It's a double blow if we lose him to them.
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Halifax say they haven't got a pot to piss in.
I think they might though.
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Reet upset here, had the cash sorted to be his shirt sponsor when he arrived :-[
No-one else to sponsor at the moment as Wilko has been sponsored as have the other lads and now Joyce has gone. I'll have to wait for another Alty favourite to arrive.
So, Bring back Leather Campaign anyone?
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As a member of the management team, I can asure all supporters that attempts were made to get Nicky back to the club. Unfortunately we can't compete financially with some fellow Conference North clubs in terms of salaries. Much as Nick would have loved to have returned to the club, when significantly increased terms are offered, then "family comes first". Other targets have been identified, but even at our level of football, ££ talks. I can assure all the supporters that efforts continue to strengthen the squad in all areas of the pitch. Hope that clears a few things up.
I thought there was extra money available to keep us up? I presume the Watmore add on money was nearer 10k than 100k then? Another kick in the teeth!
All that has been said as far as I know about "the Watmore add-on money" is that it was a five-figure sum. £10,000 is precisely that. As with ordinary budgeting, it's always safest to assume minimum figures rather than speculate & enter telephone number territory.
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As a member of the management team, I can asure all supporters that attempts were made to get Nicky back to the club. Unfortunately we can't compete financially with some fellow Conference North clubs in terms of salaries. Much as Nick would have loved to have returned to the club, when significantly increased terms are offered, then "family comes first". Other targets have been identified, but even at our level of football, ££ talks. I can assure all the supporters that efforts continue to strengthen the squad in all areas of the pitch. Hope that clears a few things up.
I thought there was extra money available to keep us up? I presume the Watmore add on money was nearer 10k than 100k then? Another kick in the teeth!
All that has been said as far as I know about "the Watmore add-on money" is that it was a five-figure sum. £10,000 is precisely that. As with ordinary budgeting, it's always safest to assume minimum figures rather than speculate & enter telephone number territory.
I'd rather hope that the person doing the budgeting would know the actual figure and not have to contemplate it on the forum.
Although given the last 12 months i'm not sure what to expect. And you're right, we should consider it was 10k, although i'd argue that wasnt worth bragging about in the first place unless you thought it would really make a difference, so far it hasnt.
I'm amazed that we cant compete and attract players if we are 'doing all we can' because surely that would mean we are stretching through the break even point here to give the manager as much room to move as he needs. An extra £100 quid a week for someone til the end of the season? no brainer, just go for it, we can penny pinch some other time when we havent got a squad full of lemons to cart around.
I have a feeling that we might have already spent large chunk of the full seasons budget signing players that wont last the course like a certain foreign import who had no gig and was willing to train with us to get a deal, yet was still mysteriously signed on a 4 month contract, springs to mind.
Regardless of the outcome of this season we need to remember where we are right now and ask some serious questions when we are digesting the catalogue of errors that has led us here. Our mysterious playing budget issues are a big worry, nevermind the big boys of the league, we're now worried we cant even compete with any other team in the league full stop. They arent all bank rolled and they all have better squads than we do!
Jesus???
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Some Clubs in this League are owned and bankrolled by multi millionaires. We aren't
An inescapable fact which has significant impact when it comes to recruitment I fear
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My "he hasnt said no to us yet" was simply an observation that until its announced that he has joined somebody else he is still a free agent and could still return
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What happened to if you can't beat them join them? We cant hardly say we can't try and be competitive or we'll end up like Darlington,Kettering,Rushden, Nuneaton Salisbury, Weymouth. We'll be level or below them all next year
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Some Clubs in this League are owned and bankrolled by multi millionaires. We aren't
An inescapable fact which has significant impact when it comes to recruitment I fear
Some, yes. But not many. We're just making excuses for ourselves. It's an excuse not to be top, or to be in a relegation scrap in the league above. It's no excuse for us to be unable to attract 3 or 4 half decent players who are up for a challenge.
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If you offer nothing of any value, then you'll get nothing for it.
Try a new share issue, together with a stated aim of a new stadium, capable of sustaining League football, and commercial complex at the proposed Manchester Airport/HS2 transport hub. Then see how many multi millionaires and commercial partners come out of the local woodwork (and elsewhere too)...
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If we have not managed to convince Nicky to come back for playing reasons then that's understandable given the position we find ourselves in at the moment. If it has come down to finances however then we have shot ourselves in the foot as has been mentioned. Not only have we missed out on a proven, top quality player at this level (something we are desperately short of at the moment) but also the lift he would have given the whole club and in particular some of the current players would have been priceless.
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Gone to harrogate for more money, beyond our means apparently. By that then I guess our means are lower mid conf north. Werent the fa cup and watmore money made available for strengthening?
Disgusted
Simon
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This is truly dreadful news. Nothing left to say really.
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Gone to harrogate for more money, beyond our means apparently. By that then I guess our means are lower mid conf north. Werent the fa cup and watmore money made available for strengthening?
Disgusted
Simon
If it was solely down to £ our failure to get him back puts massive pressure on the Board and JH to come up with some quality acquisitions and quickly. Whatever Harrogate offered we must think it was too much and we can get better value elsewhere. Obvs the big question mark over Nicky was fitness, but he seems to have put that to bed this season - so far anyway. As others have said his return would certainly have galvanised the fans and who knows some of our more established players. At least it wasn't to BPA.
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What money is Graham putting in?
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I despair with this club. If ever there was a time when we just go and do the business and get the best left winger in the league and our most creative player in the clubs recent history then it was now. No excuses, just make the deal happen. I expect in another 12 months that we won't be able to compete with Nelson, Mickleover Sports and the like. What a piss take.
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Im guessing it would have broken the clubs wage structure if we tried to beat or match Harrogates offer, but still gutting
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If you offer nothing of any value, then you'll get nothing for it.
Try a new share issue, together with a stated aim of a new stadium, capable of sustaining League football, and commercial complex at the proposed Manchester Airport/HS2 transport hub. Then see how many multi millionaires and commercial partners come out of the local woodwork (and elsewhere too)...
All we put out is a we're skint desperate for new volunteers to lighten the load...always keen to talk to people who will invest hard earned cash.....
There was a time when the local businesmen used to fight in the court over control of altrincham fc...
Amazing noone wants the millstone round the neck of alty shares...apart from the current shareholdrs...
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Im guessing it would have broken the clubs wage structure if we tried to beat or match Harrogates offer, but still gutting
I dont know but i'd be surprised if its more than reeves is on, even so how much net loss will we make from going down, the opportunity to provide exactly what we need was too good to not break the bank for
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from the official site:
CLEE DEAL FALLS THROUGH
John Edwards, joint Press & Media Officer at Altrincham FC, writes...
"Altrincham have done their utmost to bring Nicky Clee back to The J.Davidson Stadium but been forced to concede defeat after Harrogate Town moved in with a counter-offer far beyond the Robins' financial means.
Desperate for proven reinforcements to lift the team out of the Vanarama National League North relegation zone, Alty sprang into action the moment Clee's Guiseley contract ended and drew up a package aimed at luring him back across the Pennines.
Club bosses held talks with him and thought they were on the verge of a significant breakthrough after the talented winger indicated the substantial terms placed before him more than matched his aspirations.
But, just as it seemed his wing wizardry was Alty-bound, wealthy Harrogate flexed their financial muscle with an offer way in excess of the one already on the table to effectively finish the battle for his services.
The fact that Alty's bid was accepted in principle, prior to Harrogate's intervention, underlined it was no token gesture, as the club strives to recruit the signings needed for a push towards safety in the table. With an FA Cup First Round tie at Lincoln looming this Saturday, Alty will redouble their efforts to identify and land the players manager Jim Harvey feels he needs for Vanarama North status to be safeguarded" ENDS
"Far beyond our financial means" is a serious statement when you are 7 points adrift at the bottom of the Conference North, have a competitive budget, are a solvent entity, have c £40 to £50k additional funds and currently average 1,200 at home. We need to get moving and quick!
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Exactly the point i was trying to make, how on earth could he have been offered in excess of that to go harrogate, priorities is the key, epxecting to see some proper good players soon or we've been sold down the river
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from the official site:
CLEE DEAL FALLS THROUGH
John Edwards, joint Press & Media Officer at Altrincham FC, writes...
"Altrincham have done their utmost to bring Nicky Clee back to The J.Davidson Stadium but been forced to concede defeat after Harrogate Town moved in with a counter-offer far beyond the Robins' financial means.
Desperate for proven reinforcements to lift the team out of the Vanarama National League North relegation zone, Alty sprang into action the moment Clee's Guiseley contract ended and drew up a package aimed at luring him back across the Pennines.
Club bosses held talks with him and thought they were on the verge of a significant breakthrough after the talented winger indicated the substantial terms placed before him more than matched his aspirations.
But, just as it seemed his wing wizardry was Alty-bound, wealthy Harrogate flexed their financial muscle with an offer way in excess of the one already on the table to effectively finish the battle for his services.
The fact that Alty's bid was accepted in principle, prior to Harrogate's intervention, underlined it was no token gesture, as the club strives to recruit the signings needed for a push towards safety in the table. With an FA Cup First Round tie at Lincoln looming this Saturday, Alty will redouble their efforts to identify and land the players manager Jim Harvey feels he needs for Vanarama North status to be safeguarded" ENDS
"Far beyond our financial means" is a serious statement when you are 7 points adrift at the bottom of the Conference North, have a competitive budget, are a solvent entity, have c £40 to £50k additional funds and currently average 1,200 at home. We need to get moving and quick!
Well what a disgraceful statement that is.
Given the service that lad has given us over the years (and ignoring the fact we pretty much did our best to cripple him last season) what a way to treat him, we've properly hung him out to dry. The only suprise is that the headline doesnt read "Mercenary joins harrogate".
Notwithstanding this, what sort of message does it send to potential targets? If you don't sign for us we'll go public playing the "poor old altrincham" card? Not to mention we've essentially just shown our hand to everyone else now.
Seriously, who signs off on this sh*t? I despair.
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A laughable situation, this club gets worse by the minute
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Like Beez, I'm just absolutely perplexed and exasperated by this. Who on God's earth is keen to put out a statement that they've been beaten to a player by another club, any club?
Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Does nobody think about how this looks to fans of our own, never mind other clubs?
I can only conclude we're playing the woe is me card making excuses. Who is doing it and for what purpose I dare say we'll find out by next Monday.
This club doesn't know when to shout from the rooftops and when to keep it's trap shut.
We're weak as piss, run by the lily livered, followed by the wet, on a model that's unsustainable. I've had enough, I've really, really had enough. I absolutely despair.
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Awful news and a poor statement, why shout about getting beaten to the signature of a player! If only Neil Young had offered him a contract in the summer.
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Yes, not much good news at the moment. Glad to see Charlie Joyce has gone though! If only Alan Good all could be replaced. .... by anyone for me, he's awful!!
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I get what you all mean but sometimes the club are never going to win in these situations. At least they communicated with us that they did everything to try and sign him back, which is exactly what they'd been criticised for in the past.
I'd rather hear bad news than no news.
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What an absolute joke!! I'm going to have no teeth left the amount of times I've been kicked in them recently!!
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I get what you all mean but sometimes the club are never going to win in these situations. At least they communicated with us that they did everything to try and sign him back, which is exactly what they'd been criticised for in the past.
I'd rather hear bad news than no news.
I tend to agree with this . Dammed if you do Dammed if you don't.
However we are fast becoming less of a non leauge giant and more of a non league joke
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I get what you all mean but sometimes the club are never going to win in these situations. At least they communicated with us that they did everything to try and sign him back, which is exactly what they'd been criticised for in the past.
I'd rather hear bad news than no news.
I tend to agree with this . Dammed if you do Dammed if you don't.
However we are fast becoming less of a non leauge giant and more of a non league joke
I do take all that on board, but we're just drawing attention to ourselves in an unflattering light, it serves no useful purpose.
As for the actual release itself, if it started in reverse and stopped halfway through it'd read ok.
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The choice was to say what happened and keep people informed or remain silent and keep them in the dark. The facts are what they are. Some clubs have wealthy backers, and that's fairly well known, so we're not exactly showing our hand or revealing something that isn't common knowledge. One of the main criticisms of late has been a lack of communication from the top, but this was a well-intentioned attempt to let everyone know why the widely-shared hope Nicky might return to Alty won't be happening. Much as the message wasn't what we wanted to hear, I would have thought the insight and openness might have been welcomed, rather than ridiculed.
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John
The current situation seems to be such that whatever is done shouldn't have been and what isn't should have been.
Clubs bigger than ours have, in the past made similar statements and they haven't been met with such opprobrium.
I do sometimes wonder if some folk actually believe that the Board etc. don't care and just sit on their arses doing nothing - it certainly appears that this thought process is both common and, as we both know, entirely wrong.
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Another PR disaster.
Who signed off on that?
Clap trap marketing blurb about wizardry and having a feast snatched from our mouths?
Can we really demonstrate our lack of ambition any more than admitting defeat to Harrogate?
I'm sorry but enough is enough now, please give us a break.
We hear practically nothing week on week about the availability of our shambles of a squad, getting team news on twitter minutes before kick off (apparently because we are protecting ourselves against competitive intelligence when we haven't competed for months on end), yet we can't wait to get out there and tell the league who we were after and how we got embarrassed out of a signature by a club with 400 fans?
I've read that article several times before posting this to make sure I've taken it in the right way and I get more confused trying to reason why we'd think it was ok to publish it???
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The choice was to say what happened and keep people informed or remain silent and keep them in the dark. The facts are what they are. Some clubs have wealthy backers, and that's fairly well known, so we're not exactly showing our hand or revealing something that isn't common knowledge. One of the main criticisms of late has been a lack of communication from the top, but this was a well-intentioned attempt to let everyone know why the widely-shared hope Nicky might return to Alty won't be happening. Much as the message wasn't what we wanted to hear, I would have thought the insight and openness might have been welcomed, rather than ridiculed.
John this announcement was piss poor communication - who you supposed to be doing a favour for?
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What happened to if you can't beat them join them? We cant hardly say we can't try and be competitive or we'll end up like Darlington,Kettering,Rushden, Nuneaton Salisbury, Weymouth. We'll be level or below them all next year
Halifax and Chester
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So relating precisely what happened in an attempt to sign a player everyone wanted at the club is poor communication? I'm at a loss to understand that. What should have been done? Claim we had no interest in Nicky and Harrogate are welcome to him? Ignore it completely and show scant regard for the interests of supporters who would rightly be up in arms at being kept in the dark? It's an accurate account of a topic, Nicky's future, that has been debated at great length on the forum. Difficult to know what to do for the best when criticism is so scathing, regardless of the stance adopted.
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Another PR disaster.
Can we really demonstrate our lack of ambition any more than admitting defeat to Harrogate?
I don't see your point here, Harrogate are a team with a very high budget. This has been known for years
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Another PR disaster.
Can we really demonstrate our lack of ambition any more than admitting defeat to Harrogate?
I don't see your point here, Harrogate are a team with a very high budget. This has been known for years
Yes, 450 fans or not, it has been said before that if they invested some of their money in a quality manager (not the owners son), then they would make Conference National
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The current situation seems to be such that whatever is done shouldn't have been and what isn't should have been.
Alas, the situation at the club for the majority of 2016 has comprised that whatever has been done shouldn't have been and what hasn't been done should have been!
Hence the reason that we now find ourselves teetering on the brink of an unthinkable second consecutive relegation.
I suspect that we may well be compelled to pay 'over the odds' as regards wages if we are to attract the types of players who could yet extricate us from this unholy mess.
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sad news nicky is not resigning,but thanks to the board for letting us know.
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The choice was to say what happened and keep people informed or remain silent and keep them in the dark. The facts are what they are. Some clubs have wealthy backers, and that's fairly well known, so we're not exactly showing our hand or revealing something that isn't common knowledge. One of the main criticisms of late has been a lack of communication from the top, but this was a well-intentioned attempt to let everyone know why the widely-shared hope Nicky might return to Alty won't be happening. Much as the message wasn't what we wanted to hear, I would have thought the insight and openness might have been welcomed, rather than ridiculed.
John I don't think its the press release that is an issue , its the content, very saddened by how far we have fallen, don't blame the BBC for the situation in Syria
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Another PR disaster.
Can we really demonstrate our lack of ambition any more than admitting defeat to Harrogate?
I don't see your point here, Harrogate are a team with a very high budget. This has been known for years
We are down on our luck. Fans are hurting. I'm sorry, money or no money I don't want to be told that we can't compete with Harrogate.
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Another PR disaster.
Can we really demonstrate our lack of ambition any more than admitting defeat to Harrogate?
I don't see your point here, Harrogate are a team with a very high budget. This has been known for years
We are down on our luck. Fans are hurting. I'm sorry, money or no money I don't want to be told that we can't compete with Harrogate.
You shouldn't need to be told.
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Another PR disaster.
Can we really demonstrate our lack of ambition any more than admitting defeat to Harrogate?
I don't see your point here, Harrogate are a team with a very high budget. This has been known for years
We are down on our luck. Fans are hurting. I'm sorry, money or no money I don't want to be told that we can't compete with Harrogate.
You shouldn't need to be told.
True
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http://www.harrogatetownafc.com/news/2475-nicky-clee-signs-for-town
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Homeless Worcester city paying a fee to move a winger halfway down the country whilst we're not even competing on wages
http://www.worcestercityfc.com/news/city-bring-in-winger-from-halifax-town-1716952.html
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Massive miss not getting Nicky back, certainly his signature was there on a plate for us but we blew it. As they used to say at the start of Shameless, "the truth is out there". Expect Nicky to come back here with Harrogate and tear us a new one!
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The well heeled Spa town 500 in raptures at the news, their Chairman looking forward to the bouquets thrown in his direction no doubt.
http://harrogatetownfc.forumotion.com/t2834-nicky-clee-signs-from-guiseley (http://harrogatetownfc.forumotion.com/t2834-nicky-clee-signs-from-guiseley)
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Can't say they're over the moon about the signing! Hard not to think about how different the reaction would have been on this forum had he signed compared to theirs. I'm sure Nicky will get use to the gentle ripple of applause when he lays on a goal!
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I thought it was a very clear account of what happened and the board appear to have done what fans wanted - give Nicky a serious offer he was keen to accept. They have told us what they are up to which is again what people have been calling for and it has also made clear Nicky still likes us and didn't tell us where to go after being released which I think is important and speaks positively about Nicky, far from accusing him of being a mercenary it presents his decision to accept a bigger wage as a sacrifice he is making for his family, I can't think of a nicer way of putting it given what has happened.
Well done John, excellent work no matter what the toddlers on here think.
and yes I am gutted he is not coming back but the world isn't perfect
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I thought it was a very clear account of what happened and the board appear to have done what fans wanted - give Nicky a serious offer he was keen to accept. They have told us what they are up to which is again what people have been calling for and it has also made clear Nicky still likes us and didn't tell us where to go after being released which I think is important and speaks positively about Nicky, far from accusing him of being a mercenary it presents his decision to accept a bigger wage as a sacrifice he is making for his family, I can't think of a nicer way of putting it given what has happened.
Well done John, excellent work no matter what the toddlers on here think.
and yes I am gutted he is not coming back but the world isn't perfect
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I thought it was a very clear account of what happened and the board appear to have done what fans wanted - give Nicky a serious offer he was keen to accept. They have told us what they are up to which is again what people have been calling for and it has also made clear Nicky still likes us and didn't tell us where to go after being released which I think is important and speaks positively about Nicky, far from accusing him of being a mercenary it presents his decision to accept a bigger wage as a sacrifice he is making for his family, I can't think of a nicer way of putting it given what has happened.
Well done John, excellent work no matter what the toddlers on here think.
and yes I am gutted he is not coming back but the world isn't perfect
Read it again but substitute the words Nicky Clee with Lee Elsm and then see how it looks.
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I thought it was a very clear account of what happened and the board appear to have done what fans wanted - give Nicky a serious offer he was keen to accept. They have told us what they are up to which is again what people have been calling for and it has also made clear Nicky still likes us and didn't tell us where to go after being released which I think is important and speaks positively about Nicky, far from accusing him of being a mercenary it presents his decision to accept a bigger wage as a sacrifice he is making for his family, I can't think of a nicer way of putting it given what has happened.
Well done John, excellent work no matter what the toddlers on here think.
and yes I am gutted he is not coming back but the world isn't perfect
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Thanks Bath Alty and Pukka, two fine upstanding individuals! I respect others are entitled to their opinion but still maintain taking the club to task for being open and honest about a subject of huge interest to all of us was a bit much. Anyway, perhaps time to move on and create a few headlines at Lincoln today. Here's hoping.
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I tend to agree with Mr Edwards..
The "We want Nicky Back" thread has been done to death and it is now patently obvious that we are no longer going to witness Nicky trotting out at Moss lane in an Alty Shirt again.
Its now time to move on and as John states, look forward/hope for betting things from our current team starting today at Lincoln.
I enjoyed the times Nicky played for us and from the brief times I got to speak to him he seemed a genuine bloke, I shall remember him with fond memories and remember his great contributions he gave our football club.
Good luck Nicky at Harrogate..
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I thought it was a very clear account of what happened and the board appear to have done what fans wanted - give Nicky a serious offer he was keen to accept. They have told us what they are up to which is again what people have been calling for and it has also made clear Nicky still likes us and didn't tell us where to go after being released which I think is important and speaks positively about Nicky, far from accusing him of being a mercenary it presents his decision to accept a bigger wage as a sacrifice he is making for his family, I can't think of a nicer way of putting it given what has happened.
Well done John, excellent work no matter what the toddlers on here think.
and yes I am gutted he is not coming back but the world isn't perfect
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Thanks Bath Alty and Pukka, two fine upstanding individuals! I respect others are entitled to their opinion but still maintain taking the club to task for being open and honest about a subject of huge interest to all of us was a bit much. Anyway, perhaps time to move on and create a few headlines at Lincoln today. Here's hoping.
You probably did ok with it John to be fair. If it had been done in reverse it would've been much better.
It just needed burying and I'm not sure whybthevclub felt to announce it. Still, I suppose it's an improvement from not being able to explain whether a manager resigned or not or from not managing to explain who had taken over and definitively for how long.
Still, let's move on.
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Sign a quality left mdifielder and all will be forgotten , they dont grow on trees though