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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on October 22, 2016, 04:54:26 PM
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I watched the first half from the stands and it was awful. Hardly any drive in the team, final third terrible. Still badly need pace out wide to go around a man. Correct sub with Goodall as each ball looked as if it was going to go past him. Why aren't we giving Marsh a go? He looks a lot more sharp than Hobson. What has happened to Richman and Moult? Williams was better than all our mids and Luca looked more comfortable than all our defenders. Bunch of fannies.
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Dreadfull mate
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Absolute junk. The work rate in the second half , considering we were chasing the game was a disgrace. They don't look arsed to me.
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Please sort it jim
Who is coaching this sh*t?....still missing key central defender but people like goodall and deasy should know better...moult lawrie richman and cyrus all gifting the opposition the ball and noone f**king covering.
Not good enough for altrincham football club...utter shambles...made a sh*te telford team whos players dont know if they will get paid look like barcelona....
Sort it....worst ive seen since we lost 3-1 to witton before kingy came back....but then i didnt see gloucester away...
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You thought we had creative players a week ago and we were turning a corner ?
Big changes needed here that's for sure
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Poorer than poor.
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We were very very lucky to only lose by 2 goals today.
We desperately need a midfielder who can pass the ball to a team mate - that midfield 4 can't - if we stick with that combination of Lawrie, Wilkinson, Richman and Moult we will get relegated by March.
A small positive was McWilliams at left back who had an OK debut, but needs to beware that the dross he has for teammates doesn't drag him down to their level.
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Absolute junk. The work rate in the second half , considering we were chasing the game was a disgrace. They don't look arsed to me.
Totally agree. We haven't been able to go toe to toe with physical teams for several years but that second half was embarrassing and the threat of relegation is very real...
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Went today. First half I thought we were about where we were V Harrogate quality wise. That was prior to going behind, after which we were f**king awful.
It was a f**king pantomime at times in the second half.
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Our senior players are dreadful. I wouldn't batter an eyelid if Goodall, Moult, Richman and Lawrie pissed off now. Indeed, the only players from the pre-Densmore and Harvey eras I would keep would be Patterson, Hannigan and Reeves. We are in real trouble and everyone who plays us knows it.
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Our senior players are dreadful. I wouldn't batter an eyelid if Goodall, Moult, Richman and Lawrie pissed off now. Indeed, the only players from the pre-Densmore and Harvey eras I would keep would be Patterson, Hannigan and Reeves. We are in real trouble and everyone who plays us knows it.
That's a good point. We should be getting so much more from the senior players. Moult, richman, Laurie and Goodall are letting us down badly with piss poor performances.. James Laurie laughing and joking with their full back when we were 2 down summed it up today. We need some leaders who wouldn't accept that out on the pitch. Could never have imagined such acceptance of rubbish attitudes from the likes of Val, Stuart Coburn, Eddie Hussin, Robbie Lawton etc
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Our senior players are dreadful. I wouldn't batter an eyelid if Goodall, Moult, Richman and Lawrie pissed off now. Indeed, the only players from the pre-Densmore and Harvey eras I would keep would be Patterson, Hannigan and Reeves. We are in real trouble and everyone who plays us knows it.
That's a good point. We should be getting so much more from the senior players. Moult, richman, Laurie and Goodall are letting us down badly with piss poor performances.. James Laurie laughing and joking with their full back when we were 2 down summed it up today. We need some leaders who wouldn't accept that out on the pitch. Could never have imagined such acceptance of rubbish attitudes from the likes of Val, Stuart Coburn, Eddie Hussin, Robbie Lawton etc
totally agree piss poor attitude . No heart and desire
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I thought we showed more desire in the second half. It will be interesting to see the highlights. I think their goalie only made two saves.
There doesn't seem to be much point in Reevsie being on the pitch. People muscle him out of the game. The difference in physicality between this week and last is huge. We should be OK in the Evostick.
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Sorry guys but for once I agree with every comment on this thread; I hope every player takes a long hard look at himself today, because they let us down as a team.
I do not feel the likes of Jim/Matt bear too much responsibility, but I do feel this again goes back to the wholesale clear-out which Neil Young instigated. Why we got rid of some good players last season beats me. I would also have started with Phil Marsh with Reevsie, but the likes of Jake and Simon need to roll their sleeves up.
We are becoming the laughing stock of this league now, roll your sleeves up lads and give us the win on Tuesday before we get too far behind in a league we should be mid-table at least. Jim you and Matt make the changes we all know are now necessary.
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Total wank today, anyone got Neil young's mobile number?
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I want to see the players coming off the pitch red faced from effort not embarrassment.
Absolutely dreadful balsa wood performance.
If we continue like this we will be in the evostick.
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I thought we showed more desire in the second half. It will be interesting to see the highlights. I think their goalie only made two saves.
There doesn't seem to be much point in Reevsie being on the pitch. People muscle him out of the game. The difference in physicality between this week and last is huge. We should be OK in the Evostick.
I thought we were worse in the second half. Agree with the evo stik point, going down in a shambolic mes
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/tables may be of interest.
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Thank God I missed this debacle. I'm also absent on Tuesday when anything less than a win will be totally unacceptable. WE'RE GOING DOWN FOR SURE UNLESS WE IMPROVE RAPIDLY !!!!
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No-one should under-estimate how much trouble we are in and how realistic the catastrophic threat of relegation to the Evo-Stick is.
I understand that one season doesn't necessarily follow the next, and there are no allowances for different phases over the course of a season, but as an overview,
* 46 points will generally keep you in a 42-game Conf North (based on past 3 seasons). In order to achieve that we already need to take nearly 50% of all available points between now and the end of the season.
* To put that into context, just 65% of all available points over a season will probably win you the league outright.
* In the past two seasons, 50% of available points will see you finish about 7th/8th
The more performances like today, the harder the above will get. But should we start looking like a side capable of challenging for the playoffs (over a full season admittedly), then we will be just fine. Let's hope the 5-figure 'Watmore money' promised to JH is nearer 6 figures than 4 figures. But the worse the position gets, the harder to attract the required players to the club will become, or the more we will have to pay them to come here.
On the up-side if we do avoid relegation then given the form we will need to be in to achieve that, plus a few additions next summer, should mean we are in a handy position for a play-off challenge next season...
I'm not sure if that is the optimist in me clutching at straws, or just the sobering reality of the task that lies in front of us.
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I thought we showed more desire in the second half. It will be interesting to see the highlights. I think their goalie only made two saves.
There doesn't seem to be much point in Reevsie being on the pitch. People muscle him out of the game. The difference in physicality between this week and last is huge. We should be OK in the Evostick.
I thought we were worse in the second half. Agree with the evo stik point, going down in a shambolic mes
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/tables may be of interest.
Frightening >:( >:( >:(
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Plenty of teams down there that show how easy it is to go from the National League straight through the Northern section. I see Hednesford down there and to think it's only a couple of years ago that they were challenging us for that play-off Final place.
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Granted the performance today was poor, however the comments from groups of so called supporters in the Pop stand is disgusting, We are a part time club and the constant moaning and negativity is just ridiculous. Yes sometimes players do not control the ball first touch or make every pass perfect but the negativity from the group who stand beside the television gantry is becoming tedious to many years glory hunting watching MUFC . We are in trouble, but the players need support not constant moaning. If you want think all of our players are sh*t and enjoy telling them so throughout the game then go and watch someone else, only support will get us out of this.
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They get loads of support, over 1000 alty fans there today and not a hint of a boo. Sorry but we've spent months and months being served up crap. I don't complain over a lack of control, but I do expect every player to be busting their bollocks out there and frankly some of them today weren't.
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Yes sometimes players do not control the ball first touch
SOMETIMES??????
The players get the plaudits when they deserve it...today they deserve and need a kick up the arse...support for that performance suggests it was somehow acceptable....
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I've not seen us since the Nuneaton game and was truly shocked by how poor we were today. We were woeful. Every time one of our players tried to make a pass in our half it was either misplaced or forced another player to stretch to retrieve it.
I think JH must reassess what he can hope to get out of these players. Trying to get John Cyrus to be a footballing centre-half is a doomed enterprise. The saddest thing of all is seeing Moult and Richman, shadows of their former selves and weighed down with the despair at what has happened to this club. For their own sakes they should move on (as Havern has and he seemed back to his old self).
All those people on here who were telling us that now we've got a decent manager, we'll finish in comfortable midtable... that seemed complacent to me then and is clearly wrong now. I'd be surprised if we stay up. What a truly awful period in our history this is.
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The fans have been incredible . 18 months of dross. Let's not go at them again
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Granted the performance today was poor, however the comments from groups of so called supporters in the Pop stand is disgusting, We are a part time club and the constant moaning and negativity is just ridiculous. Yes sometimes players do not control the ball first touch or make every pass perfect but the negativity from the group who stand beside the television gantry is becoming tedious to many years glory hunting watching MUFC . We are in trouble, but the players need support not constant moaning. If you want think all of our players are sh*t and enjoy telling them so throughout the game then go and watch someone else, only support will get us out of this.
Well said. I moved away from the Pop stand today so I didn't have to listen to their expert opinions.
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Maybe i've been naive but until today i've thought we would have enough to pull away from the bottom three. Although in the last few games we haven't at times been particulary convincing i at least thought things were beginning to improve. Today's performance however was so poor we could have been back the management of Neil Young.
It could have easily been another Fylde today against a Telford team who weren't anything special but didn't have to be to beat us. Add on the seemingly lack of belief and fight we just never looked like scoring.
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Just embarrassing today - shell shocked by it (not been to recent cup games cos away) and major changes needed to stay up
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Photographs of yesterday's game taken from the Telford perspective:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/afctu/sets/72157675584527495/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/afctu/sets/72157675584527495/)
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Plenty of teams down there that show how easy it is to go from the National League straight through the Northern section. I see Hednesford down there and to think it's only a couple of years ago that they were challenging us for that play-off Final place.
Which teams would those be exactly?
Did Stafford go straight through? The only other ex conf national team there is Hednesford.
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I was actually looking at the division below where you can find Hyde and Droylsden, as well as Scarborough, all in the National League not too long ago!
If we don't pull our fingers out soon I think we will find ourselves playing those teams as well in a couple of years.
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Plenty of teams down there that show how easy it is to go from the National League straight through the Northern section. I see Hednesford down there and to think it's only a couple of years ago that they were challenging us for that play-off Final place.
Which teams would those be exactly?
Did Stafford go straight through? The only other ex conf national team there is Hednesford.
And Frickley although it was a long time ago! There's also Witton,Leek and Vics in the league below.
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Evostik is a wasteland. We must avoid it.