www.altyfans.co.uk

General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Macsporran on September 07, 2016, 10:16:40 PM

Title: Clear out begins..
Post by: Macsporran on September 07, 2016, 10:16:40 PM
Metz and Bell gone back to their clubs.

Only another 6 to go by my reckoning
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: York Alty is back on September 07, 2016, 10:22:23 PM
Excellent. Clear out what is not required, free up resources for those that are.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: robininstockport on September 07, 2016, 10:35:43 PM
Like most I never saw Metz so can't comment, but Bell was pure gash
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 07, 2016, 10:36:38 PM
Metz and Bell gone back to their clubs.

Only another 6 to go by my reckoning

The six being ?
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Macsporran on September 07, 2016, 10:39:45 PM
For me:

Sumner
Moran
Bassangue or whatever his name is!
Sinclair
Hattersley
Heathcote
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Bath Alty on September 07, 2016, 10:45:21 PM
well Heathcote is on a contract till the end of the season
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Macsporran on September 07, 2016, 10:47:25 PM
Does that prevent him being loaned out ?
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Bath Alty on September 07, 2016, 11:05:57 PM
no it just makes it less likely he will be one of the ones moved out
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Macsporran on September 07, 2016, 11:18:09 PM
Yes point taken, but in my opinion he should be moved on....been to every game this season and I just don't think he is good enough ( or tough enough for this league ). I did say the other 6 were by my reckoning, I would not expect everyone to agree. I am all for developing our own young players, I just don't see it with Sam unfortunately.

Also there's Charlton to consider, although by all accounts he was never actually registered so I guess he will just vanish.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 07, 2016, 11:18:48 PM
Why would you do that, I thought he did ok when he came on last night.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Macsporran on September 07, 2016, 11:24:10 PM
Probably one of his better cameos last night, though he did miss a clear header which he should have done a lot better with.

Steve, I just think he would benefit from a regular game elsewhere. He needs to toughen up and use his physique a lot more. For a big lad he seems to get bullied a lot, needs to add physicality to his game at this level.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: GB Alty on September 08, 2016, 12:54:58 AM

He needs to toughen up and use his physique a lot more. For a big lad he seems to get bullied a lot, needs to add physicality to his game at this level.
Good point, and something which gets missed. Explains why he came across as a better player in the league above than in this league

This is a physical league
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: brinners on September 08, 2016, 07:23:35 AM
We need to clear out MORE than 6 players.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: roytonmike on September 08, 2016, 07:44:57 AM
Moran will presumably return to FGR when his month is up; if what has been said about Bassangue's ability (or otherwise) to interact verbally with his colleagues is true he can't be persevered with; I'm not clear whether Sumner is here on loan (in which case his position is similar to Moran) or on some form of contract (in which case an early review would in my opinion be advisable). Not having seen Charlton I can't comment, but as I understand it he's not at the moment registered with the League so isn't available for selection. Of the rest, the fittest one of Sinclair, Hattersley & Hobson should for my money stay as an option in attack but the other two be encouraged to look elsewhere for footballing employment. That's half a dozen taken out of the equation - Heathcote will be needed at the very least as defensive cover. I hope whatever decisions are made regarding departures the new manager will take his time in assessment of the rest of the squad & recruitment of any further new players - we've had enough of the 'revolving door' already!
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: AltySi on September 08, 2016, 12:27:18 PM
Has Charlton officially left now ?.

he has been removed from the squad list on the website, but is not shown in departed players.

he has also changed his twitter profile pick from the one in an Alty shirt from pre-season.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: cheshire cat on September 08, 2016, 12:48:35 PM
Has Hobson been injured? I thought he was rubbish in one of the early games. He came on and only seemed interested in trying to win a foul. No hint at any other kind of skill at all.

Then against Chorley he completely changed. Strong enough to withstand challengers from defenders and provide service to Reeves. It could be a good double act if they develop an understanding. Certainly looked more promising than Sinclair.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: ripleym on September 08, 2016, 01:00:10 PM
I thought Hobson looked a different animal to preseason when he came on against Chorley.  He chased stuff down, was strong as already mentioned, had a couple of chances which he created for himself and the work to put in that cross for Reeves was top draw.  He and Sam were our biggest threats from set pieces second half.

Hopefully a sign of things to come from him, as opposed to just playing for a contract with the new manager watching.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Stan Hibbert on September 08, 2016, 01:52:42 PM
Think it's easier to say who we should keep. I know this isn't enough to make a team but these are the only players who I believe are good enough and/or care about the future of Alty;

Deasy, Patterson, Hannigan (jury's still out as haven't seen enough of him), Moult, Reeves, Lawrie, Miller, Richman, Cain and, maybe, Joyce.

I wouldn't lose a wink if the others went, if we had suitable replacements, as I don't think that they're either good enough or care enough.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 08, 2016, 02:00:20 PM
Think it's easier to say who we should keep. I know this isn't enough to make a team but these are the only players who I believe are good enough and/or care about the future of Alty;

Deasy, Patterson, Hannigan (jury's still out as haven't seen enough of him), Moult, Reeves, Lawrie, Miller, Richman, Cain and, maybe, Joyce.

I wouldn't lose a wink if the others went, if we had suitable replacements, as I don't think that they're either good enough or care enough.

I despair, I really do.  It's as if the Neil Young tenure didn't happen.  It's not time to get silly again.

Comfortably add to the above list - Cyrus, Heathcote (as he's on contract maybe loan him out), Richman and Goodall.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Stan Hibbert on September 08, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
Think it's easier to say who we should keep. I know this isn't enough to make a team but these are the only players who I believe are good enough and/or care about the future of Alty;

Deasy, Patterson, Hannigan (jury's still out as haven't seen enough of him), Moult, Reeves, Lawrie, Miller, Richman, Cain and, maybe, Joyce.

I wouldn't lose a wink if the others went, if we had suitable replacements, as I don't think that they're either good enough or care enough.

I despair, I really do.  It's as if the Neil Young tenure didn't happen.  It's not time to get silly again.

Comfortably add to the above list - Cyrus, Heathcote (as he's on contract maybe loan him out), Richman and Goodall.

Please don't despair.

I didn't start the thread.

Richman's in my list.

Relax, we're all entitled to our opinions hence why there's a forum. Let's not get confrontational eh?

One Love.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 08, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Think it's easier to say who we should keep. I know this isn't enough to make a team but these are the only players who I believe are good enough and/or care about the future of Alty;

Deasy, Patterson, Hannigan (jury's still out as haven't seen enough of him), Moult, Reeves, Lawrie, Miller, Richman, Cain and, maybe, Joyce.

I wouldn't lose a wink if the others went, if we had suitable replacements, as I don't think that they're either good enough or care enough.

I despair, I really do.  It's as if the Neil Young tenure didn't happen.  It's not time to get silly again.

Comfortably add to the above list - Cyrus, Heathcote (as he's on contract maybe loan him out), Richman and Goodall.

Please don't despair.

I didn't start the thread.

Richman's in my list.

Relax, we're all entitled to our opinions hence why there's a forum. Let's not get confrontational eh?

One Love.

Sorry I just start hyperventilating at the thought of any more new faces  :o  (a proper left back would be good though Jim...)
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Stan Hibbert on September 08, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
Think it's easier to say who we should keep. I know this isn't enough to make a team but these are the only players who I believe are good enough and/or care about the future of Alty;

Deasy, Patterson, Hannigan (jury's still out as haven't seen enough of him), Moult, Reeves, Lawrie, Miller, Richman, Cain and, maybe, Joyce.

I wouldn't lose a wink if the others went, if we had suitable replacements, as I don't think that they're either good enough or care enough.

I despair, I really do.  It's as if the Neil Young tenure didn't happen.  It's not time to get silly again.

Comfortably add to the above list - Cyrus, Heathcote (as he's on contract maybe loan him out), Richman and Goodall.

Please don't despair.

I didn't start the thread.

Richman's in my list.

Relax, we're all entitled to our opinions hence why there's a forum. Let's not get confrontational eh?

One Love.

Sorry I just start hyperventilating at the thought of any more new faces  :o  (a proper left back would be good though Jim...)

I get where you're coming from. What about a tricky winger aswell eh? ;)
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: brinners on September 08, 2016, 03:01:15 PM
I think D.I.M's list is not actually too far away from my list. Add Hall to it and yes, it's about right.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 08, 2016, 03:38:07 PM
I think D.I.M's list is not actually too far away from my list. Add Hall to it and yes, it's about right.

I do still definitely think there is potential in Cyrus, and Goodall's experience is priceless. You can get rid of the rest though  ::)
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Frosty on September 08, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
Very impressed with hobson very chorls, what do you reckon babs
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Ballers on September 08, 2016, 04:15:48 PM
Think it's easier to say who we should keep. I know this isn't enough to make a team but these are the only players who I believe are good enough and/or care about the future of Alty;

Deasy, Patterson, Hannigan (jury's still out as haven't seen enough of him), Moult, Reeves, Lawrie, Miller, Richman, Cain and, maybe, Joyce.

I wouldn't lose a wink if the others went, if we had suitable replacements, as I don't think that they're either good enough or care enough.

I despair, I really do.  It's as if the Neil Young tenure didn't happen.  It's not time to get silly again.

Comfortably add to the above list - Cyrus, Heathcote (as he's on contract maybe loan him out), Richman and Goodall.

Hmm, Goodall..,

Just wondering how he'll fit in now. He looks a nice calm player but, again seemingly like 60% of the bloody squad, he's not fit and tires badly. Whether this is through the knock he picked up a week or two ago, a conditioning issue or even a longer term one, it's not quite happening.

I know people say we knock it about but we need to harden up a bit here. I wonder if Harvey will go for more bite and legs in centre mid. Who that could be I'm not sure as even an athlete like Richman doesn't look match fit or indeed football fit.

We're not able to close down together. Both Chorley goals came from chasers not being backed up (1st Reeves, 2nd Miller). Not enough bite in midfield and probably hanging a bit deep as our defence keeps getting skinned.

You might not want more players but I think Harvey will need them. There's problems everywhere I look.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: shelmers on September 08, 2016, 04:18:07 PM
yeah have to get rid of heathcote hes gash....ship him out on loan.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: roytonmike on September 08, 2016, 04:35:08 PM
Re Goodall - I quote from the 'Therapy Talk' section of Tuesday evening's programme: "Alan Goodall has recently started a new career outside of football as well, this has seen an adjustment to his daily patterns. Little things like this can impact on performances until the change over has been adapted to, work, family, training & management." Sometimes reading the programme can be useful ...
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Ballers on September 08, 2016, 04:52:09 PM
Re Goodall - I quote from the 'Therapy Talk' section of Tuesday evening's programme: "Alan Goodall has recently started a new career outside of football as well, this has seen an adjustment to his daily patterns. Little things like this can impact on performances until the change over has been adapted to, work, family, training & management." Sometimes reading the programme can be useful ...


Hmm, not quite sure that explains him being dead on his feet after an hour.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Jimmy on September 08, 2016, 04:54:40 PM
People are having a go at who Young shipped out,that wasn't the problem it was the replacements
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Leon on September 08, 2016, 05:11:25 PM
Re Goodall - I quote from the 'Therapy Talk' section of Tuesday evening's programme: "Alan Goodall has recently started a new career outside of football as well, this has seen an adjustment to his daily patterns. Little things like this can impact on performances until the change over has been adapted to, work, family, training & management." Sometimes reading the programme can be useful ...


Hmm, not quite sure that explains him being dead on his feet after an hour.

Goodall to me is a non-league Gareth Barry and that's not entirely a compliment.
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: robininstockport on September 08, 2016, 05:28:27 PM
Heathcote, Goodall and all other defenders would look better if we could keep the ball for longer periods in the oppositions half!
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: GB Alty on September 08, 2016, 06:03:13 PM
People are having a go at who Young shipped out,that wasn't the problem it was the replacements
spot on
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Seth on September 09, 2016, 08:56:47 PM
I think people are maybe being too harsh here. Wait until JH Takes over, hobson and joyce really impressed me on tuesday. I think a change of management is needed rather than change of players, to stay up at least
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on September 09, 2016, 09:03:28 PM
I agree Seth, in thought Hobson was decent when he came on on Tuesday
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: blackpoolalty on September 09, 2016, 09:53:35 PM
Hobson did far more and created more than Sinclair
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: blackpoolalty on September 09, 2016, 09:54:04 PM
Re Goodall - I quote from the 'Therapy Talk' section of Tuesday evening's programme: "Alan Goodall has recently started a new career outside of football as well, this has seen an adjustment to his daily patterns. Little things like this can impact on performances until the change over has been adapted to, work, family, training & management." Sometimes reading the programme can be useful ...


Hmm, not quite sure that explains him being dead on his feet after an hour.

Goodall to me is a non-league Gareth Barry and that's not entirely a compliment.

Ah Gareth Whalley?
Title: Re: Clear out begins..
Post by: taxi Phil on September 09, 2016, 10:13:12 PM
Hobson did far more and created more than Sinclair

Hobson actually looked useful at Harrogate before he was injured - in fact he started the move for Lawrie's opening goal.