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Title: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: Whingeing Winger on September 02, 2016, 12:15:00 PM
News gets better and better
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Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 02, 2016, 12:16:16 PM
Yes Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!!!
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Post by: robininstockport on September 02, 2016, 12:26:16 PM
Delighted
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Post by: Man of Moss on September 02, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
Top stuff, Nicky Clee next please!
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Post by: roytonmike on September 02, 2016, 12:37:30 PM
The Lord be praised!
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on September 02, 2016, 12:38:06 PM
Great news, welcome back Tim!  :)
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Post by: Ashley Alty on September 02, 2016, 12:56:06 PM
Adam Griffin and Nicky Clee please.  Then Masha?  Maybe Perry?
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Post by: PukkaPieman on September 02, 2016, 12:57:37 PM
Clee obviously, who played 90 mins last saturday btw.

Those who knocked Adam Griffin maybe can see what we miss, is he still playing?
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Post by: CB on September 02, 2016, 01:00:50 PM
Yes!
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Post by: cheshire cat on September 02, 2016, 01:09:00 PM
Excellent news but is he fit? Yes I know he trained with us but has his injury healed?
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Post by: bighairedmike on September 02, 2016, 01:20:51 PM
Excellent news but is he fit? Yes I know he trained with us but has his injury healed?

Griffin started last season fit and put on 2 stone of belly through the season.

Anybody with that attitude shouldn't be thought about. He was a disgrace.
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Post by: robininstockport on September 02, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
Griffin is 1 of main reasons we're where we are!
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Post by: bumble on September 02, 2016, 01:29:16 PM
I'd put in a call to a fair few Guiseley players.

Give them a route out of the inevitable conference relegation.
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Post by: wayno on September 02, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
Teasey deasy is back ! Our player of the year returns ( yes he tailed off at the end of the season due to playing with injury) fab news !!!

If we can cement the defence we have foundations to build on
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Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 01:45:45 PM
Excellent news but is he fit? Yes I know he trained with us but has his injury healed?

Griffin started last season fit and put on 2 stone of belly through the season.

Anybody with that attitude shouldn't be thought about. He was a disgrace.

Absolutely correct. The decision to release was spot on, the failure to replace doesn't affect that. In Deasy case we should only have released with an adequate replacement but as far as Griffin (and Crowther) are concerned absolutely not.
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Post by: Teasierbeaver on September 02, 2016, 01:47:29 PM
Good news this. Welcome back Tim!

I'll get slaughtered for this but I'd take a fit Ryan Crowther back in this league. A fit Clee might be a long shot. Isnt he based over that way?

No way to Griffin
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Post by: York Alty is back on September 02, 2016, 01:49:17 PM
Excellent.
Now we can start tombe be more adventurous on the pitch.

Still going  1 1 on Saturday.
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Post by: brinners on September 02, 2016, 01:53:19 PM
Excellent, excellent news. One step nearer a clean sheet. Just a left back now really.
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Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 01:55:45 PM
Good news this. Welcome back Tim!

I'll get slaughtered for this but I'd take a fit Ryan Crowther back in this league. A fit Clee might be a long shot. Isnt he based over that way?

No way to Griffin

Not a fitness issue...
Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 02:02:58 PM
I think Deasy's return could help Andrew Dawber's career.

He won't see it that way of course and I expect him to flounce off.

But at Fulham I think the other keeper were probably the full package and he wasn't able to learn off them to address his flaws.

What I mean is, Tim Deasy is the same height (shorter than average for a keeper) as Dawber yet is so much better than him on crosses. This is mainly due to his organisation and decision making when to come and when to go, something Dawber could definitely learn.

He can also learn how to organise a defence, anyone stood near our goal last season will attest to the incessant shouting, organisation and encouragement that Deasy does. It's clear the team lacks confidence with Dawber behind them.

Dawber should also consider that Deasy is unlikely to stay 100% fit and play every game so although he'll want first team football he will get another chance soon enough.

I've slated him a bit but he does have potential and it'd be a shame if he didn't take stock here and develop a bit.
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Post by: bighairedmike on September 02, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
I think Deasy's return could help Andrew Dawber's career.

He won't see it that way of course and I expect him to flounce off.

But at Fulham I think the other keeper were probably the full package and he wasn't able to learn off them to address his flaws.

What I mean is, Tim Deasy is the same height (shorter than average for a keeper) as Dawber yet is so much better than him on crosses. This is mainly due to his organisation and decision making when to come and when to go, something Dawber could definitely learn.

He can also learn how to organise a defence, anyone stood near our goal last season will attest to the incessant shouting, organisation and encouragement that Deasy does. It's clear the team lacks confidence with Dawber behind them.

Dawber should also consider that Deasy is unlikely to stay 100% fit and play every game so although he'll want first team football he will get another chance soon enough.

I've slated him a bit but he does have potential and it'd be a shame if he didn't take stock here and develop a bit.

Me and you fully supporting each other's posts on the same day? What's happened?!
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Post by: York Alty is back on September 02, 2016, 02:05:35 PM
Good news this. Welcome back Tim!

I'll get slaughtered for this but I'd take a fit Ryan Crowther back in this league. A fit Clee might be a long shot. Isnt he based over that way?

No way to Griffin

Nicky is based over this side of the hills yes. I honestly  believe we saw the best of Nicky, we would have to wind the clock back to have him play as he did for a full season. Magnificent player, but time to move on for both parties.
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Post by: Teasierbeaver on September 02, 2016, 02:08:56 PM
Good news this. Welcome back Tim!

I'll get slaughtered for this but I'd take a fit Ryan Crowther back in this league. A fit Clee might be a long shot. Isnt he based over that way?

No way to Griffin

Not a fitness issue...

We can get decent players in, old or new. But I can't see us having good back up so it'd be better to look at players who have a good track record with injuries.

We fell apart without Hannigan ten times quicker than we would have with him (suppose there's a blessing in there somewhere). But you get my point, Clee can drag us forwards as long as he's on the pitch, we've suffered several times because he's either injured or playing half fit.

Same with Deasy I suppose! Hopefully we can just get a settled side by end of September and some points on the board to breed confidence.
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Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 02:10:25 PM
I think Deasy's return could help Andrew Dawber's career.

He won't see it that way of course and I expect him to flounce off.

But at Fulham I think the other keeper were probably the full package and he wasn't able to learn off them to address his flaws.

What I mean is, Tim Deasy is the same height (shorter than average for a keeper) as Dawber yet is so much better than him on crosses. This is mainly due to his organisation and decision making when to come and when to go, something Dawber could definitely learn.

He can also learn how to organise a defence, anyone stood near our goal last season will attest to the incessant shouting, organisation and encouragement that Deasy does. It's clear the team lacks confidence with Dawber behind them.

Dawber should also consider that Deasy is unlikely to stay 100% fit and play every game so although he'll want first team football he will get another chance soon enough.

I've slated him a bit but he does have potential and it'd be a shame if he didn't take stock here and develop a bit.

Me and you fully supporting each other's posts on the same day? What's happened?!

Erm, as far as I can see, I disagreed with yours about Crowther and you agreed with mine above, that's what's happened? Not that I've noticed us being miles apart in out general thinking tbh but there you go.
Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: Teasierbeaver on September 02, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
I think Deasy's return could help Andrew Dawber's career.

He won't see it that way of course and I expect him to flounce off.

But at Fulham I think the other keeper were probably the full package and he wasn't able to learn off them to address his flaws.

What I mean is, Tim Deasy is the same height (shorter than average for a keeper) as Dawber yet is so much better than him on crosses. This is mainly due to his organisation and decision making when to come and when to go, something Dawber could definitely learn.

He can also learn how to organise a defence, anyone stood near our goal last season will attest to the incessant shouting, organisation and encouragement that Deasy does. It's clear the team lacks confidence with Dawber behind them.

Dawber should also consider that Deasy is unlikely to stay 100% fit and play every game so although he'll want first team football he will get another chance soon enough.

I've slated him a bit but he does have potential and it'd be a shame if he didn't take stock here and develop a bit.

I think keeper is one position where you won't learn anything just by playing. He needs to watch and learn a bit. He's got loads of time to become a solid number one then
Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 02:11:52 PM
We keep getting ripped apart on the flanks partly due to not having wide players who can assist the full backs imo
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Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 02:12:43 PM
I think Deasy's return could help Andrew Dawber's career.

He won't see it that way of course and I expect him to flounce off.

But at Fulham I think the other keeper were probably the full package and he wasn't able to learn off them to address his flaws.

What I mean is, Tim Deasy is the same height (shorter than average for a keeper) as Dawber yet is so much better than him on crosses. This is mainly due to his organisation and decision making when to come and when to go, something Dawber could definitely learn.

He can also learn how to organise a defence, anyone stood near our goal last season will attest to the incessant shouting, organisation and encouragement that Deasy does. It's clear the team lacks confidence with Dawber behind them.

Dawber should also consider that Deasy is unlikely to stay 100% fit and play every game so although he'll want first team football he will get another chance soon enough.

I've slated him a bit but he does have potential and it'd be a shame if he didn't take stock here and develop a bit.

I think keeper is one position where you won't learn anything just by playing. He needs to watch and learn a bit. He's got loads of time to become a solid number one then

Fully agree :)
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Post by: bighairedmike on September 02, 2016, 02:19:08 PM
I think Deasy's return could help Andrew Dawber's career.

He won't see it that way of course and I expect him to flounce off.

But at Fulham I think the other keeper were probably the full package and he wasn't able to learn off them to address his flaws.

What I mean is, Tim Deasy is the same height (shorter than average for a keeper) as Dawber yet is so much better than him on crosses. This is mainly due to his organisation and decision making when to come and when to go, something Dawber could definitely learn.

He can also learn how to organise a defence, anyone stood near our goal last season will attest to the incessant shouting, organisation and encouragement that Deasy does. It's clear the team lacks confidence with Dawber behind them.

Dawber should also consider that Deasy is unlikely to stay 100% fit and play every game so although he'll want first team football he will get another chance soon enough.

I've slated him a bit but he does have potential and it'd be a shame if he didn't take stock here and develop a bit.

Me and you fully supporting each other's posts on the same day? What's happened?!

Erm, as far as I can see, I disagreed with yours about Crowther and you agreed with mine above, that's what's happened? Not that I've noticed us being miles apart in out general thinking tbh but there you go.

I didn't mention Crowther. :) That was in response to my post about Griffin.
Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: robininstockport on September 02, 2016, 02:38:39 PM
I'd forgotten about Crowther. What a sh*t bag he was
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Post by: GolfRoader on September 02, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
Clee next please!
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Post by: hsmith1 on September 02, 2016, 04:08:23 PM
Welcome Back Tim
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Post by: Ballers on September 02, 2016, 04:14:21 PM
GHM - ah, I see.

Glyn - yep, in a nutshell

Golf Roader - I think we're missing Clee's character and heart as much as anything.
Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: Jenga on September 02, 2016, 05:10:40 PM
coming out of forum retirement to say i am well pleased with this.

Welcome back teasy deasy
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Post by: wayno on September 02, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
coming out of forum retirement to say i am well pleased with this.

Welcome back teasy deasy
may you attend a game this year then as well .?

Tickle
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Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 02, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
coming out of forum retirement to say i am well pleased with this.

Welcome back teasy deasy
may you attend a game this year then as well .?

Tickle

 :)
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 02, 2016, 06:48:37 PM
Good news this. Welcome back Tim!

I'll get slaughtered for this but I'd take a fit Ryan Crowther back in this league. A fit Clee might be a long shot. Isnt he based over that way?

No way to Griffin


Unfortunately, that's an oxymoron.

Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: casper on September 02, 2016, 07:38:42 PM
TBH i didnt think Dawber had done much wrong in the last few games. He's not helped by having a naff defense.

He's only going to get better with the more first team experience. He's made some very good saves, but needs to work on his kicking.

Having Deasy back is good, but may be a big negative for Dawber. I hope we continue to use and develop Dawber, as we could get a lot off him financially.
Title: Re: Tim Deasy Returns!!
Post by: cheshire cat on September 02, 2016, 08:52:44 PM
Excellent news but is he fit? Yes I know he trained with us but has his injury healed?

Griffin started last season fit and put on 2 stone of belly through the season.

Anybody with that attitude shouldn't be thought about. He was a disgrace.

Actually, I was asking about Deasy's fitness after him carrying an injury for a lot of last season. We got our wires crossed I think
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Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 02, 2016, 08:57:35 PM
TBH i didnt think Dawber had done much wrong in the last few games. He's not helped by having a naff defense.

He's only going to get better with the more first team experience. He's made some very good saves, but needs to work on his kicking.

Having Deasy back is good, but may be a big negative for Dawber. I hope we continue to use and develop Dawber, as we could get a lot off him financially.

I'd quite happily take a MASSIVE negative for Dawber to have an adult experienced keeper between the sticks! Dawber needs time and coaching to possibly become a good keeper which we just can't gamble on at the moment.