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Good. Let's move forward now and hope the damage is repairable.
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I never like to see a guy left unemployed, but there really was no alternative. I wish the guy well.
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Hallelujah!
Thank God for that, anyone who has witnessed the last few games will appreciate that he had to go, particularly after yesterday's capitulation to Curzon. Perhaps he has realised the writing was on the wall, and also the overwhelming reaction on this forum my have had an impact.
I'm going to Kiddy tomorrow with renewed hope, albeit with the same bunch of players who have let us down so badly in recent games. It will take time to sort that situation out granted, there is a fair bit of deadwood to clear out as we know.
Good news though, hopefully things will pick up now.
Get on the phone to Deasy as a starting point please....
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Some of that dead wood are loanees, they can go straight back on Tuesday morning.
One or two may be worth holding onto, for example Sinclair though thqt is based only on peoples comments on here.
Get a keeper in for County.
Those are two big strides in the right direction.
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I never like to see a guy left unemployed, but there really was no alternative. I wish the guy well.
He works for MerseyRail doesn't he? I guess he didn't give up the day job.
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NY looked a decent appointment after success with Chester. Never got going here.
Some absolute wasteful garbage brought in. Didnt seem confident with his approach to the game or tatics.
Onwards, and hopefully upwards.
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He's done the right thing and he deserves massive respect for that. All the loanees should go along with anyone on a week-to-week contract. Even if it took Stu to come out of retirement for one game v Stockport, it would be an improvement. I'd go ultra-defensive tomorrow and stem the tide of goals.
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NY looked a decent appointment after success with Chester. Never got going here.
Some absolute wasteful garbage brought in. Didnt seem confident with his approach to the game or tatics.
Onwards, and hopefully upwards.
I read on the County forum earlier that he used 46 players in 2013/14 season at Chester, when they had a successful season. God knows how many players we'd had got through had he stayed.
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Gone without a payoff and retired from management. Cant say fairer than that. Seems he tried his best but realised he was out of his depth.
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It's better to burn out than to fade away.
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A fair man who gave it ago
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I never met Neil to talk to directly, heard a few talks of his whilst in the Sponsors lounge. Seemed a very nice man and he deserves massive Respect for resigning with no strings attached, whilst he was part time , it is still a loss of income for him. Thank you for thinking of all of us including yourself when you tendered your resignation and wish you well for the future.
Now the rebuilding starts, lets hope we secure the correct manager this time. Good luck to the lads tomorrow.
Come on you Robins.
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Credit where it is due to NY for doing the right thing and resigning because the board would've persisted with him until god knows when,at least we still have plenty of time to turn the season around now. Hopefully all the loan players will be sent back straight away and we can bring a couple of experienced players in starting with a goalkeeper and a defender! I believe Marcus Holness is without a club,might be a good place to start.
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That's a relief, we MUST get the next appointment right. Neil did the decent thing to be fair to him.
Only 6 games gone and plenty of time to turn things round, this was always going to be a season of rebuilding.
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Do we assume his coaching team have gone with him if the players are in charge?
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Yes. Simon Garner has said farewell on social media.
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Please stop with the praise.
He was a poor appointment and a wosre manager who has left us with 27 players and in a religation spot.
I'll begruge using trains forever it pays his wage
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He did the right thing and gets credit where it is due - he got the grief when he deserved it so it's fair he gets credit for this. He could have hung on till our patient board finally bowed to the inevitable and got some sort of payoff, but he didn't.
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It's better to burn out than to fade away.
An instance of the Neil and the damage done?
The Board simply need to stop appointing people called Neil.
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It's better to burn out than to fade away.
An instance of the Neil and the damage done?
The Board simply need to stop appointing people called Neil.
We could do with an Alex or José... (W)Roy's currently out of work. ;)
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There are quite a few managers 'free' at the moment - Harvey, Burr, Watson, Bower/Boshell, Sinclair etc
Or do we fancy someone from lower down the pyramid like the highly regarded Trafford manager?
I wonder if the Curzon manager would be interested? Or Preece?
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Iill worry about who is next after the weekend.too elated to care at the moment.
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There are quite a few managers 'free' at the moment - Harvey, Burr, Watson, Bower/Boshell, Sinclair etc
Or do we fancy someone from lower down the pyramid like the highly regarded Trafford manager?
I wonder if the Curzon manager would be interested? Or Preece?
Sinclair - oh god no
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There are quite a few managers 'free' at the moment - Harvey, Burr, Watson, Bower/Boshell, Sinclair etc
Or do we fancy someone from lower down the pyramid like the highly regarded Trafford manager?
I wonder if the Curzon manager would be interested? Or Preece?
Sinclair NO
Watson is still at Stalybridge isn't he?
Bower/Boshell lack experience
Burr or Harvey for me.
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Watson left bridge yesterday
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Watson has quit football....though we have heard that before
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I've just read about Watson,sorry I'm not quite up to speed. He said he's retiring from the dugout but he's hardly pulled up any trees at Stalybridge tbh. Harvey,Burr must be the favourites for me.
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I cannot see the attraction of Watson at all. He has done absolutely nothing at Stalybridge and would be best avoided. Furthermore, if he has entered a self-imposed exile from the game similar to that which Neil Young has just embarked upon, it is not even worth considering him.
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He did the right thing and gets credit where it is due - he got the grief when he deserved it so it's fair he gets credit for this. He could have hung on till our patient board finally bowed to the inevitable and got some sort of payoff, but he didn't.
totally agree,
How about big Stu for manager?
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The large dark cloud that has been over our house for nearly two weeks has been lifted. Will be interesting to see who the new manager is.
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He did the right thing and gets credit where it is due - he got the grief when he deserved it so it's fair he gets credit for this. He could have hung on till our patient board finally bowed to the inevitable and got some sort of payoff, but he didn't.
totally agree,
How about big Stu for manager?
Absolutely not Harold ! We need an experienced man in.....and pretty quickly. And quick doesn't mean hasty !
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Whoever the new manager is, he's got a hell of a job on.
Gone are the players that we know would have done well at this level - Havern, Marshall, Clee, Leather, etc. (and yes I recognise the financial implications of this list).
Anyone half decent will already be snapped up and we're unlikely to lure people away with piles of cash.
So what we have is an untried bunch of kids who just about know each other's names, that the new manager will have to assess, cull and then form the rest into a unit that will start to compete.
Whoever comes in, you'd have to say that avoiding relegation should be our only target.
He really did f**k us over didn't he?
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To be fair, despite some of the dross we've signed, it seems to me from reading this forum of late that if somebody came in who played our best XI (including a decent keeper) all in their correct positions, we might actually improve a fair bit.
Clearly changes are going to be required to get us to the level we eventually want to be at, but hopefully the new manager, whoever that is, will be able to set us on the right path.
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Yes a big repair job for next manager . Interesting to see what price we are to win today ?
Is it big enough odds for a quid
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Three impressive draws???? They were wank draws!!! How tinpot have we become, i feel this club needs further change
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Judging by what came afterwards they were the 3 best results in the clubs history!!
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I cannot see the attraction of Watson at all. He has done absolutely nothing at Stalybridge and would be best avoided. Furthermore, if he has entered a self-imposed exile from the game similar to that which Neil Young has just embarked upon, it is not even worth considering him.
Will it be longer than Phil Taylors exile?
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I cannot see the attraction of Watson at all. He has done absolutely nothing at Stalybridge and would be best avoided. Furthermore, if he has entered a self-imposed exile from the game similar to that which Neil Young has just embarked upon, it is not even worth considering him.
Will it be longer than Phil Taylors exile?
:)
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Whoever the new manager is, he's got a hell of a job on.
Gone are the players that we know would have done well at this level - Havern, Marshall, Clee, Leather, etc. (and yes I recognise the financial implications of this list).
Anyone half decent will already be snapped up and we're unlikely to lure people away with piles of cash.
So what we have is an untried bunch of kids who just about know each other's names, that the new manager will have to assess, cull and then form the rest into a unit that will start to compete.
Whoever comes in, you'd have to say that avoiding relegation should be our only target.
He really did f**k us over didn't he?
I'm not quite so pessimistic as Dave and Meaty. Can't make it today, but I've been to all the games thus far and think the following is a decent nucleus of a squad:-
Patterson
Sumner
Cain
Cyrus
Densmore
Hannigan
Heathcote
Goddard
Moult
Richman
Reeves
Lawrie
Sinclair
It's worth remembering there's no transfer window in this league, as such plenty of players will be on short-term or 5 day notice contracts. Obvs there's a couple of injuries in there and we desperately need a keeper as soon as possible. My understanding is a number of our 'Young guns' summer acquisitions are on short term deals and unfortunately of these only Cyrus has convinced me they are up to the standard required (and he needs an experienced partner alongside him). Sumner is on non contract terms and I think should be given more games to bed in - it can't have been easy arriving in the chaos of the last week. We've had a cut in budget but I believe we're in the top 6 or 7 in this league and the quality of acquisition thus far is surely more a result of philosophy than shortage of cash. Sub 600 gates will have much more impact I'd suggest!
It's a challenge yes, but we're only 6 games into the season. The new manager will have much more flexibility than previously when we were here and I think there's every reason to look forward to a season other than another relegation fight.
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Well said JTH.
The views of some on here vacillate more wildly than a weather vane in a hurricane (and are even less reliable).
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Have to be positive, six games in with an incompetent manager and we are not bottom of the table!
I view tbings as us pushing for a play off spot, we need help doing that so appointing the right man is critical. Plenty of games, plenty of time.
The only way is up.
COME ON ALTY.
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When Densmore is fit and ready as well it'll be like bringing in a marquee new signing. He's been a massive miss for us over the last year or so
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Well said JTH.
The views of some on here vacillate more wildly than a weather vane in a hurricane (and are even less reliable).
Hysteria maybe as Hughsey said last week? Maybe we should have kept Young if so?
You can't polish a turd, we're a bad team and need a total rebuild otherwise we will go down. Is that hysteria as well? Because its exactly where we at, reliable or not, hurricane or not
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Some on here were wildly enthusiastic when NY was appointed as if the saviour had arrived, some were more measured.
I am glad he has gone.
Likewise the doom and gloom by some of our current predicament (and no, I don't think anything is particularly rosy) is also over the top.
I was merely pointing out that the measured response by JTH was a more realistic view of our current predicament (IMHO).
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Well said JTH.
The views of some on here vacillate more wildly than a weather vane in a hurricane (and are even less reliable).
Hysteria maybe as Hughsey said last week? Maybe we should have kept Young if so?
You can't polish a turd, we're a bad team and need a total rebuild otherwise we will go down. Is that hysteria as well? Because its exactly where we at, reliable or not, hurricane or not
Think he's trying to say that a total rebuild is probably a bit of a knee jerk reaction. There are 6 or 7 players in our now vast squad that are up to it and with the right management we wouldn't be anywhere near close to going down.
That's not to say that we don't need new faces because I agree that we do starting with an experienced goalkeeper. No problems with keeping on Dawber and giving him time to train and learn but he's clearly not ready to be the number 1 here.
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Well said GolfRoader.
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Agreed JTH's post is sensible. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater: Hannigan, Cyrus, Patterson, Moult, Lawrie, Richman, Goodall, Reeves, add Sinclair and we have 7-8 there that are the nucleus of a solid outfit who can more than compete at this level. Lower mid table might be our level this season but I wouldn't expect us to be in relegation trouble.
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Some on here were wildly enthusiastic when NY was appointed as if the saviour had arrived, some were more measured.
I am glad he has gone.
Likewise the doom and gloom by some of our current predicament (and no, I don't think anything is particularly rosy) is also over the top.
I was merely pointing out that the measured response by JTH was a more realistic view of our current predicament (IMHO).
So you do think it's hysteria - just a bad run hey?
Maybe Neil Young got caught up in the hysteria as well? Where do you think he resigned? Our good board didn't think any action was required, so maybe your right
That said the hysteria seemed to be pretty universal at the last two home games, maybe we're all wrong hey? Just give it time, we not far off ???
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Agreed JTH's post is sensible. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater: Hannigan, Cyrus, Patterson, Moult, Lawrie, Richman, Goodall, Reeves, add Sinclair and we have 7-8 there that are the nucleus of a solid outfit who can more than compete at this level. Lower mid table might be our level this season but I wouldn't expect us to be in relegation trouble.
deary me Patterson Goodall and Richman are bang average, Cyrus is crap, and how we can say anything about Sinclair after Saturday is beyond me
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Some on here were wildly enthusiastic when NY was appointed as if the saviour had arrived, some were more measured.
I am glad he has gone.
Likewise the doom and gloom by some of our current predicament (and no, I don't think anything is particularly rosy) is also over the top.
I was merely pointing out that the measured response by JTH was a more realistic view of our current predicament (IMHO).
So you do think it's hysteria - just a bad run hey?
Maybe Neil Young got caught up in the hysteria as well? Where do you think he resigned? Our good board didn't think any action was required, so maybe your right
That said the hysteria seemed to be pretty universal at the last two home games, maybe we're all wrong hey? Just give it time, we not far off ???
Is wilful misreading a talent?
I said, and I quote, "I am glad he has gone".
I was not proclaiming him as the next messiah when he arrived either, just as I am not now predicting that we will be lucky to avoid relegation.
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Agreed JTH's post is sensible. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater: Hannigan, Cyrus, Patterson, Moult, Lawrie, Richman, Goodall, Reeves, add Sinclair and we have 7-8 there that are the nucleus of a solid outfit who can more than compete at this level. Lower mid table might be our level this season but I wouldn't expect us to be in relegation trouble.
deary me Patterson Goodall and Richman are bang average, Cyrus is crap, and how we can say anything about Sinclair after Saturday is beyond me
Get out on the wrong side of bed this morning did we? The level of hysteria & internet warrior behaviour in your posts. Go and have a beer, it's the Bank Holiday.
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"The club is dying and has been for some time, if it can be saved now is to be seen. But I think more than just a change a management is required here, and that seems a pretty universal viewpoint now. Not hysteria"
I think that's way off the mark. I fail to see how the club is dying, and obviously you're having a go at the board here but it's hard to judge your comments as you seem to have a personal vendetta against the chairman et al for whatever reason.
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The club is not dying. We are simply being overtaken by an increasing number of seriously bankrolled teams. Whereas our level a few years ago was bottom 5 National League/Top 5 Northern League, we are probably top 10 Northern League right now. It is unfortunate, but that's the way it goes.
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The club is not dying, to claim so is nonsense. We've been relegated, suffered the financial consequences and appointed a bumpy manager. That's not dying, it's partly misfortune, partly poor management and leadership- but dying it is not. We have been in far worse straits in the past couple of decades.
Time to stick together. One Alty.
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Mr/Mrs Pig,
May I remind you that you were backing him with a gusto that was questionable to say the least and not that long ago; does that put you in the same mindset as the board? Care to take a look back at this thread and a prophetic post by Pukka:
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21359.msg249508#msg249508
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Mr/Mrs Pig,
May I remind you that you were backing him with a gusto that was questionable to say the least and not that long ago; does that put you in the same mindset as the board? Care to take a look back at this thread and a prophetic post by Pukka:
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21359.msg249508#msg249508
Hoist by ones own petard!
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Mr/Mrs Pig,
May I remind you that you were backing him with a gusto that was questionable to say the least and not that long ago; does that put you in the same mindset as the board? Care to take a look back at this thread and a prophetic post by Pukka:
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21359.msg249508#msg249508
sorry but what's wrong with backing a new manager? You saying we should not have given him a chance from day one? You sound like someone with an agenda here, still holding a torch for Lee Sinnott are we?
Incidentally the post you link here you notice I am talking specifically about the release of most of last seasons squad - something I still openly support, the only good thing Neil Young did, where he went wrong was replacing them with even worse players - and thats why he had to go
When we appoint a new manager I will be sure to clear it with you if I can support him or not
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Agreed JTH's post is sensible. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater: Hannigan, Cyrus, Patterson, Moult, Lawrie, Richman, Goodall, Reeves, add Sinclair and we have 7-8 there that are the nucleus of a solid outfit who can more than compete at this level. Lower mid table might be our level this season but I wouldn't expect us to be in relegation trouble.
Agree with those names but just retaining those leaves another 17 or 18 to replace, if we can get rid of them as most will probably be on contract.
Even before we appointed Young, and I was probably the first to be critical of him taking over, I didn't expect anything better than a top ten finish this season. We're up against the mega-money bagged teams such as Fylde and Salford, as well as other financially well supported teams such as Harrogate and traditionally bigger clubs than us in Halifax, Stockport and Darlington. In my book these teams were always going to be challenging for the play-off places.
We were down for 3 seasons last time and that same period of time, which should enable us to build a decent squad from those names above, will also see the back of the majority of the teams I've mentioned.
Let's just hope we get third time lucky with the Board's appointment and manage a respectable finish to the season.
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And I had grave misgivings about deasy going ...
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]sorry but what's wrong with backing a new manager? You saying we should not have given him a chance from day one? You sound like someone with an agenda here, still holding a torch for Lee Sinnott are we?
Incidentally the post you link here you notice I am talking specifically about the release of most of last seasons squad - something I still openly support, the only good thing Neil Young did, where he went wrong was replacing them with even worse players - and thats why he had to go
When we appoint a new manager I will be sure to clear it with you if I can support him or not
I didn't say there was anything wrong with backing a new manager, far from it. My point was more that you thought he was a great appointment at the time as did the board, you BOTH turned out to be wrong. People make mistakes.
I have no torch for Lee Sinnott, never did, but I would never have used the same level of vitriolic hyperbole that you commonly do in your posts.
You seem to delight in your forum presence (and NOT in person where I have found you to be more than amiable) of these extreme reactions. Everyone is entitled to their views, but calling people "happy clappers" and worse just because they don't fully agree with your pessimistic view of our club seems somewhat churlish.
I could care less whether you support the new manager or not (whoever and whenever he's appointed), but feel free to ask if you wish.
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]sorry but what's wrong with backing a new manager? You saying we should not have given him a chance from day one? You sound like someone with an agenda here, still holding a torch for Lee Sinnott are we?
Incidentally the post you link here you notice I am talking specifically about the release of most of last seasons squad - something I still openly support, the only good thing Neil Young did, where he went wrong was replacing them with even worse players - and thats why he had to go
When we appoint a new manager I will be sure to clear it with you if I can support him or not
I didn't say there was anything wrong with backing a new manager, far from it. My point was more that you thought he was a great appointment at the time as did the board, you BOTH turned out to be wrong. People make mistakes.
I have no torch for Lee Sinnott, never did, but I would never have used the same level of vitriolic hyperbole that you commonly do in your posts.
You seem to delight in your forum presence (and NOT in person where I have found you to be more than amiable) of these extreme reactions. Everyone is entitled to their views, but calling people "happy clappers" and worse just because they don't fully agree with your pessimistic view of our club seems somewhat churlish.
I could care less whether you support the new manager or not (whoever and whenever he's appointed), but feel free to ask if you wish.
this is a pretty pointless argument, but when did I ever say Neil Young was a great appointment?
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OK, you may not have used the exact word "great", but you were certainly pleased with the announcement and his early work (as were most people.....easy for anyone to be wrong):
Your exact words from the same thread linked to above:
"We have a proper manager now for the first time in quite a few years"
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OK, you may not have used the exact word "great", but you were certainly pleased with the announcement and his early work (as were most people.....easy for anyone to be wrong):
Your exact words from the same thread linked to above:
"We have a proper manager now for the first time in quite a few years"
sorry I really don't understand your point? After the Tolson affair I would have been happy with a plant pot in charge
Don't know if you noticed but we lost again today, fouth game on the trot. Why don't you talk about that instead?
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OK, you may not have used the exact word "great", but you were certainly pleased with the announcement and his early work (as were most people.....easy for anyone to be wrong):
Your exact words from the same thread linked to above:
"We have a proper manager now for the first time in quite a few years"
sorry I really don't understand your point? After the Tolson affair I would have been happy with a plant pot in charge
Don't know if you noticed but we lost again today, fouth game on the trot. Why don't you talk about that instead?
It couldn't be in plainer English, but let's drop it there.
Yes, I saw we lost 1-0 today. Sounds like it was spirited, but far from good enough when we didn't pose any real goal threat.
There is a big job to be done alright and any early season optimism that anyone had has long since gone. However, I do not believe the club is dying on its arse and I also do not believe we will go down (we won't be going in the other direction either).
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Would be very interested to here from a board Member as to to know if NY would have been sacked if he had not resigned (or indeed if he was actually given the choice)
Personally I would like the Board to have a Q and A Evening with the Fans as soon as possible.
I do believe the Fans should have a say and an opinion to who the next Manager should be.
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Would be very interested to here from a board Member as to to know if NY would have been sacked if he had not resigned (or indeed if he was actually given the choice)
Personally I would like the Board to have a Q and A Evening with the Fans as soon as possible.
I do believe the Fans should have a say and an opinion to who the next Manager should be.
This is Alty, not Ebbsfleet. You'll be wanting to pick the team next.
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Do you have a problem with that? If so come and speak to me nexr Saturday about it
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Sadly I can't make it next week. In fact domestic circumstances dictate that I am rare visitor to Moss Lane, hence re-joining the forum after a few months off.
Come on Alty.
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]sorry but what's wrong with backing a new manager? You saying we should not have given him a chance from day one? You sound like someone with an agenda here, still holding a torch for Lee Sinnott are we?
Incidentally the post you link here you notice I am talking specifically about the release of most of last seasons squad - something I still openly support, the only good thing Neil Young did, where he went wrong was replacing them with even worse players - and thats why he had to go
When we appoint a new manager I will be sure to clear it with you if I can support him or not
I didn't say there was anything wrong with backing a new manager, far from it. My point was more that you thought he was a great appointment at the time as did the board, you BOTH turned out to be wrong. People make mistakes.
I have no torch for Lee Sinnott, never did, but I would never have used the same level of vitriolic hyperbole that you commonly do in your posts.
You seem to delight in your forum presence (and NOT in person where I have found you to be more than amiable) of these extreme reactions. Everyone is entitled to their views, but calling people "happy clappers" and worse just because they don't fully agree with your pessimistic view of our club seems somewhat churlish.
I could care less whether you support the new manager or not (whoever and whenever he's appointed), but feel free to ask if you wish.
this is a pretty pointless argument, but when did I ever say Neil Young was a great appointment?
You did seem very positive about his appointment back in May:
I'm surprised the club advertised for a manager, some of the comments on here lead me to believe we have a few potential managers on this forum.
Talk about a poisoned chalice. If we don't win our first two pre season friendlies I can see folks calling for NY's head.
some people still holding a candle for the Sinnott/Tolson regime unfortunately, they won't support the new regime, sad really. It's that backwards thinking that got us relegated in the first place
I am backing Young 100%
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21457.msg250344#msg250344
Richman is woeful and only kept because he is on contract, hopefully he can be moved on as soon as possible
Moult now just a squad player. We have been playing our strongest midfield player
I'm not to sure we will pull up any trees either but 8th 9th or 10th won't be good enough
No doubt you would have kept all of last seasons wankers? The whole reason Young is perceived to be a good appointment is that he has f**ked all of last seasons sh*t off and is building his own squad.
Clee and Deasy aren't fit enough, last seasons management seen to that
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21549.msg250965#msg250965
The only negativity I have is towards you and your attitude.
what do you mean?
I agree with everything the manager has done, fully support it
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21359.msg249532#msg249532
You're criticism is fair that the board made a poor appointment. However, you also supported the appointment.
If the board are completely incompetent for appointing Young (your point), doesn't that also suggest your judgement is flawed?
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I never like to see a guy left unemployed, but there really was no alternative. I wish the guy well.
He works for MerseyRail doesn't he? I guess he didn't give up the day job.
He was in charge of performance, I think. Ironic...
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Wow, Jamie changing his forum name again and claiming "I never said that"
It would be quite entertaining if it wasnt so embarrassing ::)
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It's all a bit odd. As most on this forum will know Jamie is a very amiable chap in person and a longtime loyal supporter, as are most regular posters. On here though it's a bit like that famous Fergie quote about Keane and causing an argument in an empty room. Very aggressive and OTT, I'm all for debate and opinion but going out of your way to belittle other forum posters is not the way to do it.
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Wow, Jamie changing his forum name again and claiming "I never said that"
It would be quite entertaining if it wasnt so embarrassing ::)
care to highlight what I did say then?
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It's all a bit odd. As most on this forum will know Jamie is a very amiable chap in person and a longtime loyal supporter, as are most regular posters. On here though it's a bit like that famous Fergie quote about Keane and causing an argument in an empty room. Very aggressive and OTT, I'm all for debate and opinion but going out of your way to belittle other forum posters is not the way to do it.
the only people causing arguments on here are you and your other London Alty cretins, why don't you stop picking on every post I make? Even going back 4 months, bit scarey
Get a life
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It's all a bit odd. As most on this forum will know Jamie is a very amiable chap in person and a longtime loyal supporter, as are most regular posters. On here though it's a bit like that famous Fergie quote about Keane and causing an argument in an empty room. Very aggressive and OTT, I'm all for debate and opinion but going out of your way to belittle other forum posters is not the way to do it.
the only people causing arguments on here are you and your other London Alty cretins, why don't you stop picking on every post I make? Even going back 4 months, bit scarey
Get a life
Pmsl.....you really do need to take a chill pill and for the record you have caused arguments with many on here (far from just London Alty and sometimes with your own long term friends). Resorting to name calling is really quite low.
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Jamie,you are ruining the forum for the few that are left,unfortunately the majority got fed up of you a while ago and don't post anymore. Please grow up and let people have their say without being ridiculous and personally attacking people,thanks.