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Title: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 11, 2016, 06:39:16 PM
Games coming thick and fast, hopefully the defensive cover will be in place in time for Saturday. By the sounds of things a large away following will be heading over to Harrogate on Saturday. Hopefully we can get three points on the plastic pitch.

You can buy your tickets in advance here

http://www.harrogatetownafc.com/match/tickets

Id change things around from Tuesday night on the pitch but who and what depends on who's fit
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 11, 2016, 07:29:59 PM
Games coming thick and fast, hopefully the defensive cover will be in place in time for Saturday. By the sounds of things a large away following will be heading over to Harrogate on Saturday. Hopefully we can get three points on the plastic pitch.

You can buy your tickets in advance here

http://www.harrogatetownafc.com/match/tickets

Id change things around from Tuesday night on the pitch but who and what depends on who's fit

Reeves starting would be my first change!
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on August 13, 2016, 07:20:55 AM
Setting off soon....things to do in Leeds this morning. Apprehensive with no sign of the loan central defender NY said he was looking for.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 13, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
Maybe we've signed one but not chosen to disclose it yet, fingers crossed
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 13, 2016, 02:30:54 PM
Dawber, Patterson, Joyce, Cyrus, Richman, Goodall, Lawrie, Moult, Hobson, Reeves, Lynch

Subs: Miller, Menagh, Hattersley, Garner, Preston
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 13, 2016, 02:44:58 PM
Richman RB, Patterson LB Cyrus and Goodall CB
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on August 13, 2016, 03:18:45 PM
see from the text we are 1 up
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on August 13, 2016, 03:20:05 PM
 HARROGATE TOWN 0 ALTRINCHAM 1 (Lawrie 10)
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on August 13, 2016, 03:24:10 PM
1-1 another mix up from a corner
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on August 13, 2016, 03:26:56 PM
 Hobson down for treatmenr so both number nines injured.
26: Sub Hattersley for Hobson. Players take drinks on a sunny afternoon as sub comes on.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 13, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
Went today. My first game of the season, therefore hard to really comment on players improvement or otherwise.

What I can comment on was the pitch, I've never ben in favour of plastic pitches and nothing I saw today changed that view.  The bounce generally looked high, yet when on a low trajectory it skidded through lower than on grass. 

They called that a "3G" pitch, I recall watching QPR in the mid 80s on a plastic pitch where the bounce was ludicrous, in thirty years and three generations on the problems has only been reduced, not removed. 

Not in favour.

Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: SW on August 13, 2016, 08:53:25 PM
And I read that they watered it, why is there a need to do that unless you are trying to move the goalposts against a team not used to such a surface?
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 13, 2016, 09:27:19 PM
Perhaps to reduce the high bounce? I am at a loss as to why plastic grass is watered. Could it just be a wind up? Weird.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: ShropshireAlty on August 13, 2016, 09:33:43 PM
Wonder if the watering is to keep the black dust that kicked up when the ball hit the pitch down?
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: arnald on August 13, 2016, 09:36:04 PM
Temperature  maybe  or that dust stuff
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 13, 2016, 10:16:16 PM
Had a good look at the pitch pre kick off. That dust is actually thousands of small rubbery pieces, abour 3mm wide, which I assume plays some role in trying to make the pitch play as grass would.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 13, 2016, 10:16:49 PM
I think they are tiny rubber balls that they spread on the surface that fly about when you run on it
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 13, 2016, 10:18:49 PM
Had a good look at the pitch pre kick off. That dust is actually thousands of small rubbery pieces, abour 3mm wide, which I assume plays some role in trying to make the pitch play as grass would.

Great minds  ;)

My lad plays on those pitches and you end up with a shoe full of them after the game
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 13, 2016, 10:22:30 PM
Just been online and the pitches have a base of sand and what they call "rubber crumb" ie little rubber balls.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 13, 2016, 10:33:06 PM
Just been online and the pitches have a base of sand and what they call "rubber crumb" ie little rubber balls.

How about just using grass?
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 13, 2016, 10:42:42 PM
Just been online and the pitches have a base of sand and what they call "rubber crumb" ie little rubber balls.

How about just using grass?
Agree totally. I'm not a fan of plastic pitches, tits or Tupperware containers  :D
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Nom de plume on August 14, 2016, 01:23:47 AM
Agree totally. I'm not a fan of plastic pitches, tits or Tupperware containers  :D
I was worried when I read that until I realised the word "plastic" is assumed to precede the anatomical reference. Personally, I'm ok with Tupperware.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: wayno on August 14, 2016, 08:25:29 AM
Happy to come away from there with a point so late in the game

We were under pressure for long periods of the game so made the point sweeter

Very tidy ground but not much atmosphere
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 14, 2016, 09:18:25 AM
Three results over the course of a season that aren't actually bad as stand alone results. If we can be on the road to Kidderminster on ten points I'll view it as a solid start. Shame for the young lad, but we probably need to give Preston a go on Tuesday. Fylde will be a decent side. We've come through two of the hardest away trips in this league unbeaten. Everyone is itching for a win after such a terrible season last year, it'll come, to get four tough games out of the way by mid August will ultimately prove to be a good thing
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: brinners on August 14, 2016, 09:29:41 AM
It was an abject game with virtually no quality whatsoever and I'm not sure it was all the fault of the pitch. If we had a fit Nicky Clee among our ranks we'd absolutely stroll this league. We have very little up front, yet I was always confident we'd get an equaliser - neither team deserved to win. Cyrus will win everything in the air for you, which has got to give you a chance and Goodall was outstanding as emergency centre back. There is lots and lots of endeavour and I doubt we'll lose many, but we simply lack the killer touch. Looking forward to seeing Preston given a go on Tuesday - we can't afford to give Fylde a head start.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 14, 2016, 11:21:56 AM
Can we please stop the constant references to Nicky Clee. Yes he was a good player and a nice bloke with it, but whether or not you agree with him being released is irrelevant he's gone and that's it, he ain't coming back and our season will not be a failure or success without his presence or any of the other past heroes of the football club in the team.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: wayno on August 14, 2016, 12:13:15 PM
Where is Chris senior these days?
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 14, 2016, 12:14:30 PM
Where is Chris senior these days?

Wales physio
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Jimmy on August 14, 2016, 12:40:06 PM
Not really a fan of plastic pitches but they moved on since back in the day,also with refs calling games off at the drop of a hat in the winter,I can see why teams use them.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: brinners on August 14, 2016, 12:59:44 PM
I wasn't saying we should bring Nicky back (the poor lad will probably be injured soon). The point I was making, was if we had a player even remotely like him, we'd run away with this league. Harrogate were bang average and others have said how poor Halifax were.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 14, 2016, 01:32:10 PM
Only bit of quality was our 1st. Shame that on a perfect surface neither team could get the ball on the floor and play.

Nice set up at Harragate but pointless.

Goodhalll and Patterson have been the best 2 signings for me.


Thought Garner was superb but if he can play a full 90 I don't know.

Didn't see Halifax but of the 3 teams I've seen there's nothing between them.

If we could find a player who can turn a game we'd be ok.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 14, 2016, 01:33:19 PM
We're possibly only two or three players away from being really good at this level
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Ballers on August 14, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
The surface wasbt perfect. They never are. I also feel it will be less of an advantage for Harrogate than their great big slope was.

Still, that's not our problem. Ours is we only have 6/7 quality players but also 4/5substandard ones who need replacing
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 14, 2016, 02:25:04 PM
It will be no good having a Clee type class act if we've got a keeper who gives teams a goal head start every game.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 14, 2016, 08:16:04 PM
I wasn't saying we should bring Nicky back (the poor lad will probably be injured soon). The point I was making, was if we had a player even remotely like him, we'd run away with this league. Harrogate were bang average and others have said how poor Halifax were.
Clee injured again and missed Guiseley's last 2 games already.
There isnt anyone remotely like Nicky available either.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Jimmy on August 14, 2016, 10:22:16 PM
He will be injured we have ran his career into the ground
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: im not really here on August 15, 2016, 12:51:12 AM
I think we need to move on now, Clee has gone. He had a poor injury record and was reportedly a high earner, NY had little choice. If he's injured again already that only proves that it was the right decision.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 15, 2016, 08:32:04 AM
BHC has pace, can beat a man and put a cross in, we've not seen him yet in a league game with him being ill
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on August 15, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Three points against Fylde would make our start look very promising indeed. We've been given the toughest opening fixtures in the league by a mile, so to come out of those opening three games unbeaten is certainly no bad thing.

We've hardly winged these results either, we've more than earned our points and I've seen lots that we can build on and take forward. Let's see where we are at the end of August.

Please stop talking about Nicky Clee. It's pathetic.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: arnald on August 15, 2016, 09:48:07 AM
I've never seen us in a situation where we are the underdogs in most of the games
In 30 years of watching alty .to hope to be in the playoffs at this level .
Ile keep going tho I'm sure we will be strong in 3 years
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: wayno on August 15, 2016, 10:41:39 AM
I've never seen us in a situation where we are the underdogs in most of the games
In 30 years of watching alty .to hope to be in the playoffs at this level .
Ile keep going tho I'm sure we will be strong in 3 years
there is a lot more money floating round in this league this time .. you only need to look at Salford and fc United to see that
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 15, 2016, 11:20:48 AM
I've not seen us out played by anyone yet, we've not lost yet, we've been unfortunate with injuries and illness early doors to the point some players haven't even featured yet, we've had one of toughest starts on paper we could have had. I'm as sore as anyone about last years totally avoidable relegation, but it's very easy for moaning to become a habit. If we are heading to Kidderminster on ten points I'll see that as a decent solid start. We've another game against a side tomorrow with an embarrassment of riches, we need a couple of monkeys off our back,a first win under the new regime and a first away victory since last November. Winning only ten games last season has left everyone itching for progress, and had we started out with our first four games being against fodder we could
Smash 3/4/5-0 we'd still be going to Halifax and Harrogate at some point, arguably when they were more cohesive. We might not win tomorrow night, but a season isn't decided inside the opening four games, especially as no one is on a maximum return after just three.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on August 15, 2016, 12:55:52 PM
I've never seen us in a situation where we are the underdogs in most of the games
In 30 years of watching alty .to hope to be in the playoffs at this level .
Ile keep going tho I'm sure we will be strong in 3 years
Even in th FA cup against Everton who were top of the league at the time we were not underdogs
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on August 15, 2016, 03:39:45 PM
I don't fancy us to win tomorrow - yet another draw I suspect - but I reckon we can open our away account at Gainsborough on Saturday.
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: brinners on August 15, 2016, 04:02:29 PM
Of course we can win tomorrow. My brother went to the Fylde Brackley match on Saturday and it seems they are no better than anyone else.
2-1 to us
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: GB Alty on August 15, 2016, 04:07:03 PM
The whole league is sh*t
Title: Re: Harrogate - match thread
Post by: wayno on August 15, 2016, 05:03:06 PM
I've never seen us in a situation where we are the underdogs in most of the games
In 30 years of watching alty .to hope to be in the playoffs at this level .
Ile keep going tho I'm sure we will be strong in 3 years
Even in th FA cup against Everton who were top of the league at the time we were not underdogs
it's a good point and food for thought