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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Malty G on April 28, 2016, 09:10:56 AM
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Tolson said he took Damian off against Welling so the fans could show their appreciation for the 120 (?) goals he has scored for the club. The ovation was , by and large, underwhelming probably because we had no prior notice of the reasons for his substitution. Are we to infer that Saturday will be Damian's last game for Alty? We have announced that four players are under contract for next season, but is anyone else definitely leaving?
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Really hope he stays
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Tolson said he took Damian off against Welling so the fans could show their appreciation for the 120 (?) goals he has scored for the club. The ovation was , by and large, underwhelming probably because we had no prior notice of the reasons for his substitution. Are we to infer that Saturday will be Damian's last game for Alty? We have announced that four players are under contract for next season, but is anyone else definitely leaving?
This occurred to me as well.
I'd be incredibly disappointed if he re-voked his word and went to another NL club on a free.
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Tolson said he took Damian off against Welling so the fans could show their appreciation for the 120 (?) goals he has scored for the club. The ovation was , by and large, underwhelming probably because we had no prior notice of the reasons for his substitution. Are we to infer that Saturday will be Damian's last game for Alty? We have announced that four players are under contract for next season, but is anyone else definitely leaving?
This occurred to me as well.
I'd be incredibly disappointed if he re-voked his word and went to another NL club on a free.
understand your point but lets be honest if i was him and okeefe was getting on before me i would be seriously considering my future . I know he has not been at his best ths season but that must be incredibly frustrating
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Tolson said he took Damian off against Welling so the fans could show their appreciation for the 120 (?) goals he has scored for the club. The ovation was , by and large, underwhelming probably because we had no prior notice of the reasons for his substitution. Are we to infer that Saturday will be Damian's last game for Alty? We have announced that four players are under contract for next season, but is anyone else definitely leaving?
This occurred to me as well.
I'd be incredibly disappointed if he re-voked his word and went to another NL club on a free.
He's kept to his word long enough that I wouldn't begrudge him it. He should be a priority to keep though.
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He's kept to his word long enough that I wouldn't begrudge him it. He should be a priority to keep though.
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I certainly agree with the first part of that. Damian has been loyal and served us brilliantly for years, as well as rejecting numerous opportunities to leave the club. However, with a new manager on the way, with new ideas (and hopefully contacts), and a likely squad overhaul, it is difficult to talk about 'priority' players. Ideally, I'd like him to stay, but it's looking increasingly unlikely.
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Tolson said he took Damian off against Welling so the fans could show their appreciation for the 120 (?) goals he has scored for the club. The ovation was , by and large, underwhelming probably because we had no prior notice of the reasons for his substitution. Are we to infer that Saturday will be Damian's last game for Alty? We have announced that four players are under contract for next season, but is anyone else definitely leaving?
This occurred to me as well.
I'd be incredibly disappointed if he re-voked his word and went to another NL club on a free.
He's kept to his word long enough that I wouldn't begrudge him it. He should be a priority to keep though.
this
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Where did Tolson say that as I must have missed it?
Personally I'm not too bothered either way as I think Reeves has gone off the boil (and that comes from someone who has a Reeves shirt and used to think like others here about him). He's getting lazy and does not seem to bother going for a ball unless it lands right at his feet. The amount of times I've seen him give up on a perfectly good cross that could have resulted in a goal for us.
A good sort out by a new manager might get him to improve his game, but a decent signing from elsewhere might just help too. I liked the look of Jonny Margetts when he played for us for example. Loads of energy and he went to get the ball and worked for it, like Reevesie should be doing.
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You'll get slated for that mate, but I can certainly see where you're coming from. Reevesy has always preferred the ball at his feet, but that has served both him and us well in the northern league. My 'priority' player would be Clee, but even that is a bit iffy given the injuries. The trouble is, these players will eat up a large portion of our wage bill, thus limiting options for the new manager. There are lots of questions to be answered.
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I think Reevesy needs a fresh challenge, and something closer to home might suit him. Wouldn't be surprised if he pitched up at Gainsborough for example. I'd be sorry to see him go, but he owes the club nothing now.
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I'm sort of expecting that, but at the end of the day it's my take on things and a perfectly valid opinion.
Sometimes (especially in times like this) a big shake up is needed and that includes looking at every player, regardless of the great things they have done for the club over the years. We're here to win games and not carry people who are not contributing enough (although I do appreciate the board's sentiments about looking after people to a certain extent).
As I said though, I'm still undecided on him and would love to see him stay if he ups his game and starts going for balls he's been giving up on recently and above all scoring goals again. Clee being back in the team would also go a long way to helping with this as we've really missed his creative play.
You'll get slated for that mate, but I can certainly see where you're coming from. Reevesy has always preferred the ball at his feet, but that has served both him and us well in the northern league. My 'priority' player would be Clee, but even that is a bit iffy given the injuries. The trouble is, these players will eat up a large portion of our wage bill, thus limiting options for the new manager. There are lots of questions to be answered.
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I doubt if Paul Farman would call Damian lazy!!
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I think Reevesy needs a fresh challenge, and something closer to home might suit him. Wouldn't be surprised if he pitched up at Gainsborough for example. I'd be sorry to see him go, but he owes the club nothing now.
We've paid him handsomely for god knows how many years.
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Where did Tolson say that as I must have missed it?
In his post-match interview with John Edwards following last Saturday's Welling United match, as reported on John Laidlar's website:
"Damian Reeves was disappointed to be subbed near the end, but he has scored 120 goals for this club and deserved a round of applause from the supporters all to himself.
I explained that to him. Not only that, it’s a big game next week, and we need Damian Reeves fit and ready to go for that."
** Damian Reeves has scored a total of 158 goals for the Robins.
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Thanks, that explains it. I read that but admit I did not read into it like the original poster of this thread did.
Where did Tolson say that as I must have missed it?
In his post-match interview with John Edwards following last Saturday's Welling United match, as reported on John Laidlar's website:
"Damian Reeves was disappointed to be subbed near the end, but he has scored 120 goals for this club and deserved a round of applause from the supporters all to himself.
I explained that to him. Not only that, it’s a big game next week, and we need Damian Reeves fit and ready to go for that."
** Damian Reeves has scored a total of 158 goals for the Robins.
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Don't be surprised if he goes to Salford. He won't be here next season for sure
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salford do tend to raid clubs from the league above so I'd not be suprised
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Really hope he doesn't leave as he'll probably bag 20 plus in the conference North next season.
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From where I am standing in the stands Damien has gone off the boil but who can blame him? He can score goals but only if he gets the service.
He's not the tallest of guys so he does need to be fed. Ranks has got height and muscle and is expected to win balls but Damien's job is to convert the opportunities.
I think in the conference north it's all about the second ball because of the level of mistakes but in the conference you've got to attack the first ball which we've never been good at and Damien specifically. I think of him as Wright Phillips without connections. He's got skill but not connections.
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Where did Tolson say that as I must have missed it?
Personally I'm not too bothered either way as I think Reeves has gone off the boil (and that comes from someone who has a Reeves shirt and used to think like others here about him). He's getting lazy and does not seem to bother going for a ball unless it lands right at his feet. The amount of times I've seen him give up on a perfectly good cross that could have resulted in a goal for us.
A good sort out by a new manager might get him to improve his game, but a decent signing from elsewhere might just help too. I liked the look of Jonny Margetts when he played for us for example. Loads of energy and he went to get the ball and worked for it, like Reevesie should be doing.
Whilst Margetts with his pace would get 15-20 conference north goals, if you're talking about laziness I've got to tell reeves can't lay a finger on Margetts! His lack of industry was appalling and a key reason why he was sent back. I don't really want that lazy T**t back thanks.
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Believe it or not, I never got to see Margetts play for us, but I have seen him play and score for Southport. I think he'd do better than 15-20 goals in Conference North. Any striker worth his salt would thrive with Clee in the team.
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Margetts will probably be a free agent soon
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We should do our utmost to retain Reeves next season - he'd be prolific again at that level, and contrary to what most people think, I don't think clearing the decks is the answer.
Also, as unlikely a scenario as this is, we'd also get away with being able to play Reeves and Rankine up front together at that level too.
If, for whatever reason, Reeves doesn't stay - we should do our utmost to sign Margetts if he becomes available.
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Totally agree and a reason to sort manager for next season asap
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There's not a cat in hell's chance he'll be with us next season and to infer that he owes us something because we've paid his wages over a good few years is a very naïve thing to say.
He's been very loyal, when the loyalty has been a 2 way thing, but now that it appears as though he is out of favour then, if I was him, I'd seek a fresh challenge.
Whilst aspiring to be an FL player he made a commitment that he wouldn't go to another NL club. However, in my opinion, gone are his days of clinging to the hope that a league club will come in for him. So, now that his ambitions are more realistic, why not play closer to home for similar money and see out the last few years of his career?
He's got a young family too and that may very well play a big part in his decision making.
He'll be massively missed in the Northern League if he does go and I, for one, hope he doesn't.
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I'm pretty sure the club will do its best to retain Reeves - they'd be pretty silly not to given his record at Conference North level. The same probably applies to Clee, Leather and others. However, many decisions are dependent on who we appoint as the new manager and that's why it should have been done by now. I'd really like to think that the process has already started and that by the beginning of next week, a new man will be in place, so discussions with present players and potential new ones, so the club knows whether a squad overhaul is necessary (like others on this thread, I'm not sure a complete overhaul is needed).
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I'm pretty sure the club will do its best to retain Reeves - they'd be pretty silly not to given his record at Conference North level. The same probably applies to Clee, Leather and others. However, many decisions are dependent on who we appoint as the new manager and that's why it should have been done by now. I'd really like to think that the process has already started and that by the beginning of next week, a new man will be in place, so discussions with present players and potential new ones, so the club knows whether a squad overhaul is necessary (like others on this thread, I'm not sure a complete overhaul is needed).
It began this week.
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I heard it was starting on Wednesday just gone, but since nothing had been mentioned on here, I assumed it 'd been moved back to next week.
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They'll announce nothing until tomorrow's game is out of the way
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I'm pretty sure the club will do its best to retain Reeves - they'd be pretty silly not to given his record at Conference North level. The same probably applies to Clee, Leather and others. However, many decisions are dependent on who we appoint as the new manager and that's why it should have been done by now. I'd really like to think that the process has already started and that by the beginning of next week, a new man will be in place, so discussions with present players and potential new ones, so the club knows whether a squad overhaul is necessary (like others on this thread, I'm not sure a complete overhaul is needed).
Very good post & I'm not sure that a complete overhaul is needed either.