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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Toff Apple on April 13, 2016, 10:43:58 AM
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Now is a critical point in time we must either appoint a new manager in the next 2 weeks or confirm that Tolson is the manager. Contracts will be being offered to existing players and the best of those not offered contracts elsewhere will become available. Failure to act could saddle the club with the wrong squad for next season.
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The board MUST take applications of they could be running off a gate of 500 next season
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The board MUST take applications of they could be running off a gate of 500 next season
I cant see any decision on the manager next season being made until after the last game.
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The board MUST take applications of they could be running off a gate of 500 next season
I cant see any decision on the manager next season being made until after the last game.
Application process should begin the moment after Braintree has finished
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The board MUST take applications of they could be running off a gate of 500 next season
I cant see any decision on the manager next season being made until after the last game.
Application process should begin the moment after Braintree has finished
Disagree. On BT sport Tolson was billed as a caretaker manager. Applications should be opened now, with the club inviting potential managers the chance to come and watch the remaining fixtures and cast an eye over the squad.
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Who ever is in charge we should be trying to get players ready to begin training at the start of June. Never mind f**king around to see if such and such wants to sign or we'll just see which cripples get released from wherever. Here's the terms we're in training first week in June for conditioning want to stay? Concessions will be made for family holidays Yes or No. We'd like to sign you we can offer you this, you will be well looked after we're in the first week in June for conditioning, concessions will be made for family holidays want to sign? Yes or No.! To see us match fit and knowing our best 11 by the opening game, not by mid September like this year
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Totally agree. Time to get Deasey, Leather, Densmore, Moult, Reeves Lawrie signed up.
Should get a pre-season agreement with Coburn, Marshall and Clee sorted whereby we sign them if they come through pre-season unscathed.
Should also we speaking to potential managers.
Time to dust ourselves down, roll our sleeves and get back in National League
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The board MUST take applications of they could be running off a gate of 500 next season
I cant see any decision on the manager next season being made until after the last game.
Application process should begin the moment after Braintree has finished
I'd sack Neil Tolson today, in fact I'd expect him to resign. That's not me being nasty or unreasonable. He's had a chance and has had no effect (for whatever reasons) . The cold hard facts are that if the status quo remains we will get relegated. The absolute priority, and this should have been the case when LS resigned, has to be what gives us the best chance of staying in this league. By getting a new manager in now (can't change the players I'm afraid) we may only be going from a 1% to a 2% chance of staying up but it has to be done - I think there is little for Neil to gain by staying, this will only get worse - and would reassure some of us that the board are acting in line with what is best for the club.
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Now is a critical point in time we must either appoint a new manager in the next 2 weeks or confirm that Tolson is the manager. Contracts will be being offered to existing players and the best of those not offered contracts elsewhere will become available. Failure to act could saddle the club with the wrong squad for next season.
surely it isn't an option keeping Tolson,but we will
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9 points up for grabs....7 or even 6 points may do it.
put the call out now for applications for someone to come in and make a name and earn a job in the national next season.
bring in the cote for 3 games.....bring in steve burr for a 3 game see what you can do trial for both parties.
Do f**king something to show you actually care!!!!
or I fear that forum could get very ugly
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I feel pretty sure whatever happens in the next 3 games that we will have a new manager soon after the season finishes.
What I would also like to see is a manager who lives within reasonable distance of WA15, travels on the team coach, and has a good knowledge and contacts of the local talent. Lets hope we get the players in asap rather than picking up what's left at the end of July. We don't want to be playing pre season friendlies with a group of players who are strangers to each others. Hopefully the likes Damon, Den's, Luca & Scot plus a couple of others will stay and help the club to get back in the National league.
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I don't think, they do care, that's the point. The sports hall will be there regardless what league the team are in.
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The board MUST take applications of they could be running off a gate of 500 next season
I cant see any decision on the manager next season being made until after the last game.
Application process should begin the moment after Braintree has finished
Disagree. On BT sport Tolson was billed as a caretaker manager. Applications should be opened now, with the club inviting potential managers the chance to come and watch the remaining fixtures and cast an eye over the squad.
Good managers will probably be working for the most part. I doubt they can just sack off their remaining matches where they are right now to cast an eye on us.
The new season starts right after the last game. A proper application process, no arsing around, new blood, fresh faces and move forward. We need new impetus and regeneration urgently.
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I don't think, they do care, that's the point. The sports hall will be there regardless what league the team are in.
Why on earth would they even bother if they didn't care?
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
Seriously this sort of talk is getting really really boring now !
With a gate of 1000 people and no sugar daddy we're a conf north club, we escaped relegation about 4 times, bounced back up (with an extra push from DW money) and were ok 1st year and now we're back struggling and overspending.
I used to enjoy this forum but its getting destroyed at present.
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"Or I fear that forum could get very ugly". Ha ha ha like anyone gives a toss what the five remaining posters on here have to say!
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The fans have been badly let down obviously there will be people pissed off on the forum
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We as fans saw this coming months ago but the clubs board seemed oblivious to the situation! Mr Rowley needs to step up and do what is needed to at least attempt to keep this club in the national league! Go down and we will be there for years I feel! Surely it is worth doing what is needed now at whatever cost! Get a proper manager in for the final 3 games and hand them a large cheque if they keep us up! All that revenue we will be losing from the gates when we go down!
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
Seriously this sort of talk is getting really really boring now !
With a gate of 1000 people and no sugar daddy we're a conf north club, we escaped relegation about 4 times, bounced back up (with an extra push from DW money) and were ok 1st year and now we're back struggling and overspending.
I used to enjoy this forum but its getting destroyed at present.
Why do you think it is getting destroyed, because my opinion is different than yours? Why do we heed a sugar daddy to be respectful to supporters, strive to be as successful as we can be and not think that they are above the club and its supporters. We could have had a chance of staying up if we hadn't have appointed Tolson. Why have we only had 1 outside board member in 13 years?
And more importantly why don't you want the best for the club? This club has potential and the custodians should be striving to achieve that potential, at present I don't think that's happening which is shameful.
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
Seriously this sort of talk is getting really really boring now !
With a gate of 1000 people and no sugar daddy we're a conf north club, we escaped relegation about 4 times, bounced back up (with an extra push from DW money) and were ok 1st year and now we're back struggling and overspending.
I used to enjoy this forum but its getting destroyed at present.
Why do you think it is getting destroyed, because my opinion is different than yours? Why do we heed a sugar daddy to be respectful to supporters, strive to be as successful as we can be and not think that they are above the club and its supporters. We could have had a chance of staying up if we hadn't have appointed Tolson. Why have we only had 1 outside board member in 13 years?
And more importantly why don't you want the best for the club? This club has potential and the custodians should be striving to achieve that potential, at present I don't think that's happening which is shameful.
At what point have I said I dont want whats best for the club?
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"Or I fear that forum could get very ugly". Ha ha ha like anyone gives a toss what the five remaining posters on here have to say!
I think he meant the "real life forum". And I agree with him.
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
Seriously this sort of talk is getting really really boring now !
With a gate of 1000 people and no sugar daddy we're a conf north club, we escaped relegation about 4 times, bounced back up (with an extra push from DW money) and were ok 1st year and now we're back struggling and overspending.
I used to enjoy this forum but its getting destroyed at present.
Why do you think it is getting destroyed, because my opinion is different than yours? Why do we heed a sugar daddy to be respectful to supporters, strive to be as successful as we can be and not think that they are above the club and its supporters. We could have had a chance of staying up if we hadn't have appointed Tolson. Why have we only had 1 outside board member in 13 years?
And more importantly why don't you want the best for the club? This club has potential and the custodians should be striving to achieve that potential, at present I don't think that's happening which is shameful.
At what point have I said I dont want whats best for the club?
You're moaning about people who care about the club having an opinion, surely that's healthy?
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
As unhappy as I am, I can't agree with this post. There are certainly a lot of things wrong (a lot that we're not party to I suspect) but I think apathy from the Board isn't part of the problem.
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
As unhappy as I am, I can't agree with this post. There are certainly a lot of things wrong (a lot that we're not party to I suspect) but I think apathy from the Board isn't part of the problem.
What do you think is then?
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The money tree has got no money on it?
I think its a daft idea having the forum at half time of the race night. There may be a significant delay before the second half gets underway.
There's too great a risk that things will turn ugly and everyone's evening will be ruined.
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
Could you please explain that quote in more detail????
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
ATS, I would suggest its you who aren't in the real world. Do you think everything is right with the club? Should we just accept the current situation, keep turning up week after week paying our money and keep quiet? I don't claim to have an ideas, I merely would like the club to be open with its supporters and do its best. What has regulations got to do with anything, there are regulations in all walks of life and like in any job you have to abide by them. Running a football club surely isn't any different and I have a better knowledge about this than you think. Who are the 'club' by the way?
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
ATS, I would suggest its you who aren't in the real world. Do you think everything is right with the club? Should we just accept the current situation, keep turning up week after week paying our money and keep quiet? I don't claim to have an ideas, I merely would like the club to be open with its supporters and do its best. What has regulations got to do with anything, there are regulations in all walks of life and like in any job you have to abide by them. Running a football club surely isn't any different and I have a better knowledge about this than you think. Who are the 'club' by the way?
You won't get an answer there mate. He still hasn't decided on which qualifications Tolson has that make him the right man for the job. In fact, he actually imposed an exile on himself to buy some thinking time. That didn't work either as now he's just shooting his mouth off again and claiming people can't back up their opinions. Something which many reasonable posters (and I class myself in that group) have provided.
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
Who do we approach ATS?
Graham is overstretched (fact not a dig) tasc doesn't publish meetings or summaries, (not sure they even meet) and with all due to respect our social media is run by fans so its another step to reach the club.
My last list of ideas to tasc were categorised as either too expensive or not enough man power or they'd be looked into. None were carried out.
I had to set up the Instagram that is running and takes less than an hour a week of my time. That could have been running for months if someone had the power to say yes we can have an official account
I have grahams email and phone. But given right noe he's probably got a few thing to sort now isnt the right time. So who would have the authority to say go do it
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
Who do we approach ATS?
Graham is overstretched, tasc doesn't publish meetings or summaries, and with all due to respect our social media is run by fans so its another step to reach the club anyway.
My last list of ideas to tasc were categorised as either too expensive or not enough man power or they'd be looked into. None were carried out.
I had to set up the Instagram that is running and takes less than an hour a week of my time. That could have been running for months if someone had the power to say yes we can have an official account
I have grahams email and phone. But given right noe he's probably got a few thing to sort now isnt the right time. So who would have the authority to say go do it
Race night Jack.
If you can't attend, write to me and I will ask the question for you.
But I'm sure they would like to see you there, because it's a club fund raising event.
We know the club needs money.
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I don't think they care which league we are in. They are happy building up the sports hall, using it as their own social club and keeping the club ticking over.
Seriously this sort of talk is getting really really boring now !
With a gate of 1000 people and no sugar daddy we're a conf north club, we escaped relegation about 4 times, bounced back up (with an extra push from DW money) and were ok 1st year and now we're back struggling and overspending.
I used to enjoy this forum but its getting destroyed at present.
not many sides in the conf North with gates of 1000plus also a few clubs in this league with smaller gates than us
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
When they go across the nation to support the club they have every f**king right to snipe and belittle and criticise, if that is what they wish to do.
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In the spirit of the thread title and to be constructive...i think we can all agree the community side of the club has been a real boost to the club and a lasting foundation for future success....howabout a director of football on the board responsible for the selection of and assistance to the manager.....i suggest graham heathcote....
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In the spirit of the thread title and to be constructive...i think we can all agree the community side of the club has been a real boost to the club and a lasting foundation for future success....howabout a director of football on the board responsible for the selection of and assistance to the manager.....i suggest graham heathcote....
Plenty of clubs have extensive community schemes, do they have directors of football? Of course not. I support the community work we do but if we have a director of football because of it then the tail is wagging the dog.
And apart from hiring the manager - which won't be often hopefully - what assistance would be offered? A role like that rarely works in my view (regardless of whichever person it may be) and not least at this level.
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In the spirit of the thread title and to be constructive...i think we can all agree the community side of the club has been a real boost to the club and a lasting foundation for future success....howabout a director of football on the board responsible for the selection of and assistance to the manager.....i suggest graham heathcote....
Plenty of clubs have extensive community schemes, do they have directors of football? Of course not. I support the community work we do but if we have a director of football because of it then the tail is wagging the dog.
And apart from hiring the manager - which won't be often hopefully - what assistance would be offered? A role like that rarely works in my view (regardless of whichever person it may be) and not least at this level.
I agree.
That's a ridiculous time to post by the way. I hope you're not having nightmares over Alty.
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
Who do we approach ATS?
Graham is overstretched, tasc doesn't publish meetings or summaries, and with all due to respect our social media is run by fans so its another step to reach the club anyway.
My last list of ideas to tasc were categorised as either too expensive or not enough man power or they'd be looked into. None were carried out.
I had to set up the Instagram that is running and takes less than an hour a week of my time. That could have been running for months if someone had the power to say yes we can have an official account
I have grahams email and phone. But given right noe he's probably got a few thing to sort now isnt the right time. So who would have the authority to say go do it
Race night Jack.
If you can't attend, write to me and I will ask the question for you.
But I'm sure they would like to see you there, because it's a club fund raising event.
We know the club needs money.
I'll be there alongside the supporters team as we've sponsored a race.
I'm still waiting for ATS to respond to both this and my comment on the other thread. I doubt he will he only seems to want to row with certain peoole
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I very much doubt that they will be able to Brian.
To post some of the stuff they have under various guises of late I wonder how tenuous their connection with the real world is. They clearly don't have a Scooby about how a Football Club is run, that is all too apparent.
I would suggest that they actually aren't interested in reality, in facts, in how a Club runs day to day, not just on a Saturday or a Tuesday evening, not in the regulations which have to be abided by. Their sole interest is to snipe and belittle and criticise.
If they have any ideas (which they claim to have) then why the hell not approach "The Club" with said ideas?
Who do we approach ATS?
Graham is overstretched, tasc doesn't publish meetings or summaries, and with all due to respect our social media is run by fans so its another step to reach the club anyway.
My last list of ideas to tasc were categorised as either too expensive or not enough man power or they'd be looked into. None were carried out.
I had to set up the Instagram that is running and takes less than an hour a week of my time. That could have been running for months if someone had the power to say yes we can have an official account
I have grahams email and phone. But given right noe he's probably got a few thing to sort now isnt the right time. So who would have the authority to say go do it
Race night Jack.
If you can't attend, write to me and I will ask the question for you.
But I'm sure they would like to see you there, because it's a club fund raising event.
We know the club needs money.
I'll be there alongside the supporters team as we've sponsored a race.
I'm still waiting for ATS to respond to both this and my comment on the other thread. I doubt he will he only seems to want to row with certain peoole
He's probably gone into his self imposed exile again, for reasons known only to himself. Weird.
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Lets make it a double fans forum .. list of questions for ATS and a list for the board .. 😉😉
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Lets make it a double fans forum .. list of questions for ATS and a list for the board .. 😉😉
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
shall i ask the questions to ATS?.....he always seems to respond to my reasonable approach.....
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Lets make it a double fans forum .. list of questions for ATS and a list for the board .. 😉😉
I believe ATS will be taking questions along with the board and management in his official club capacity
The club is making everybody available and accountable
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The question re Neil Tolson has in fact been answered - I provided same to the person who asked it in the first place.
Jack, please come and ask me your question at the Welling Game.
Sadly I will probably not be in attendance at the Race Night due to a prior commitment. I have however arranged for a financial donation to be made to the Club in lieu of my attendance
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The question re Neil Tolson has in fact been answered - I provided same to the person who asked it in the first place.
Jack, please come and ask me your question at the Welling Game.
Sadly I will probably not be in attendance at the Race Night due to a prior commitment. I have however arranged for a financial donation to be made to the Club in lieu of my attendance
Please signpost us to it then ATS, a lot of people have missed this.
Also, at what point at the welling game do we find you ATS? OI have an official capacity during he game and you have an alternative arrangement afterwards. Just a question as it seems like you are being purposefully elusive.
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The question re Neil Tolson has in fact been answered - I provided same to the person who asked it in the first place.
Jack, please come and ask me your question at the Welling Game.
Sadly I will probably not be in attendance at the Race Night due to a prior commitment. I have however arranged for a financial donation to be made to the Club in lieu of my attendance
Why can't you just answer my question. Why do I have to actively seek you out at a home game?
Simple question I'd have thought. But you don't have an answer, admitting that's okay Phil x
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Okay Jack
Please repeat the question then
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Okay Jack
Please repeat the question then
your a farce Phil
And to think idiots like you represent this club, no wonder were f**ked
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Okay Jack
Please repeat the question then
your a farce Phil
And to think idiots like you represent this club, no wonder were f**ked
can I ask you why you hate Phil's words, don't you realise that he loves his club like you
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Daz he talks sh*t
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Okay Jack
Please repeat the question then
Just read back through man. It's not hard.
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It's not a political situation how ever today we had the fans starting line up
Reeves rankine we still lost against a good side
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We are only warming up and no surrender to the Mac town scrum
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We are only warming up and no surrender to the Mac town scrum
we surrendered to them away
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Assuming that this is what you want answering Jack then I would suggest that you initially email the Club with your ideas unless, of course, you know which Director or other individual has the specific responsibility for the area of activity you are talking about.
I would be spectacularly surprised if, no matter how busy anyone was, or what the potential resource implications any outstanding ideas weren't further investigated.
Re your observations about TASC I assume you have already raised your concerns with one of the Committee?
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Assuming that this is what you want answering Jack then I would suggest that you initially email the Club with your ideas unless, of course, you know which Director or other individual has the specific responsibility for the area of activity you are talking about.
I would be spectacularly surprised if, no matter how busy anyone was, or what the potential resource implications any outstanding ideas weren't further investigated.
Re your observations about TASC I assume you have already raised your concerns with one of the Committee?
Will we be doing an award for "most pompous forum post of the year"? We have a winner.
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Oh I don't know Frankie - your post wasn't all that pompous really
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Oh I don't know Frankie - your post wasn't all that pompous really
You're back out of exile then?
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It's been a very active forum lately .#going forward #
New ground 8,000 seats .2000 standing not sure ware to build it yet tho
My plan at first was knock down Stamford park but then I like the wild life
Any thoughts?
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It's been a very active forum lately .#going forward #
New ground 8,000 seats .2000 standing not sure ware to build it yet tho
My plan at first was knock down Stamford park but then I like the wild life
Any thoughts?
you cant do that !! Where will we hide when we stone the coaches ?
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It's been a very active forum lately .#going forward #
New ground 8,000 seats .2000 standing not sure ware to build it yet tho
My plan at first was knock down Stamford park but then I like the wild life
Any thoughts?
you cant do that !! Where will we hide when we stone the coaches ?
we won't need to hide wayno we will have the razor youth doing the dirty work mate