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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: ASMO on March 05, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
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Another 2 points dropped , were now in bottom four , need start winning our home games , can not afford to drop any more points .
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We've had it, let's face it. 1 league win since November, no attacking threat at all, the story of the entire season. 3rd from bottom finish IMO.
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The fans sung for 90 minutes
The fans helped get the game on alongside the club
The players battled to be fair to them but we just seem devoid of ideas from the middle of the field to the front
They were average as well
Very worried
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I'm not worried, I made peace with the situation several weeks ago.
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I'm not worried, I made peace with the situation several weeks ago.
meaning you think we will stay up or get relegated?
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Torquay can go above us tuesday if we lose and they win and they still have a game in hand and we still have to go to plainmoor
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We've had it, let's face it. 1 league win since November, no attacking threat at all, the story of the entire season. 3rd from bottom finish IMO.
sorry I missed this post
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I think a terminal rot has set in. I don't think it's a lack of effort from the players, more a real shortage of quality and a lack of confidence. I think Lee's position is fast becoming untenable. I think he lets games drift, and he makes too many of the same mistakes. All IMVHO of course.
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We've had it, let's face it. 1 league win since November, no attacking threat at all, the story of the entire season. 3rd from bottom finish IMO.
The only real attacking threat,DR, is sat on the bench FFS >:( >:(
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I think a terminal rot has set in. I don't think it's a lack of effort from the players, more a real shortage of quality and a lack of confidence. I think Lee's position is fast becoming untenable. I think he lets games drift, and he makes too many of the same mistakes. All IMVHO of course.
all entitled to our opinion
We praised him when we got promoted so it's all relative
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We've had it, let's face it. 1 league win since November, no attacking threat at all, the story of the entire season. 3rd from bottom finish IMO.
The only real attacking threat,DR, is sat on the bench FFS >:( >:(
was surprised he did not start and I was surprised rankine came back on second half he didn't look fit to me
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I reckon we have thrown about 13 possible points away in last 6 games at home , we looked fairly solid at the back but never looked like scoring today, why the hell is Reeve's not starting , dont understand .
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Two poor teams sharing the points.
Rankine was dreadful and should have been subbed at ht. I sometimes wonder if the tail is wagging the dog.
I would have had Lawrie nowhere near the starting 11 but fair play he was one of our best players.
Can we stay up? Yes, but only if Reeves starts and we stop the hoof ball.
I'll we stay up? No. I think the management team are either too stubborn or scared to concede they have got it wrong
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We said after pre-season that our best starting eleven was virtually the team that won the Conference North Playoff Final 16 months earlier..............in effect we have hardly improved the team from one division to the next and hence why we are struggling at this level
There is an arguement to say that the best eleven would see us finish in the top 15, but the reality is (and has been) that the best eleven are not available every week. The loss of Densmore and Clee and the fact that nobody has replaced Cavanagh has likely killed us
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We praised him when we got promoted so it's all relative
Those of you who were deluded to think that because he gained promotion he should be praised 'shouted' down those of us that thought his methods, team selection, substitutions etc were 'questionable' at best over the previous seasons. Some of us have never praised him.
On the question of Lawrie, I too would not have him in my team, but he gave a MOTM performance today. Well done to all the players for effort today. But effort won't keep us up.
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We said after pre-season that our best starting eleven was virtually the team that won the Conference North Playoff Final 16 months earlier..............in effect we have hardly improved the team from one division to the next and hence why we are struggling at this level
There is an arguement to say that the best eleven would see us finish in the top 15, but the reality is (and has been) that the best eleven are not available every week. The loss of Densmore and Clee and the fact that nobody has replaced Cavanagh has likely killed us
Totally agree with this. Replacing Cavanagh and Williams with O'Keefe and Griffith coupled with poor luck with injuries means we simply aren't good enough. Tried hard today but never looked like scoring. Reeves has to start on tuesday, ok he hasn't been in form like the majority of the others but his goal record suggests if we are to get out of the mire, it will be his goals that do it. My only criticism of Lee Sinnott is his poor recruitment in the summer and his inability to sign local talented players.
Moult was good today, we'd be down already with him and Deasy
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The best 4 players on the pitch were all centre backs. Their pair literally had Ranks in a sandwich every time the ball went anywhere near him. Neither team ever looked like they were going to score on a difficult pitch, against well organised defenders. I don't agree that Damian's inclusion today would have made any difference. We so so miss Nicky and Dens and their creativity going forward, sigh...
I thought Josh did ok though and looked our most likely saviour, but we'll probably need to dip into the loan market again to stay up.
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My Mom was Gino stood out out the pitch again
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We've got good players, it's just that without that creative drive going forward on either flank, we are much too narrow and predictable.
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We praised him when we got promoted so it's all relative
Those of you who were deluded to think that because he gained promotion he should be praised 'shouted' down those of us that thought his methods, team selection, substitutions etc were 'questionable' at best over the previous seasons. Some of us have never praised him.
On the question of Lawrie, I too would not have him in my team, but he gave a MOTM performance today. Well done to all the players for effort today. But effort won't keep us up.
those of you who praised him then have a lot to answer for, he should have gone after Blyth (or even earlier, FC United to name one)
Some of us have always understood his ability as a football manager, as being nil
At least relegation will rid us of this idiot once and for all..................or will it?
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I find not to praise someone who delivered success ie promotion odd
But each to thier own
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I find not to praise someone who delivered success ie promotion odd
But each to thier own
promtion from the north league is not success, its parity. And the minimum requirement when he took over
Sounds tough, but life is hard............or maybe the north league is all we are?
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So it's very nice that some one enjoys it's not looking good
I will say it's looking fantastic the worst ever thread it's not looking good
Us fans support the team and want it's looking good
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So it's very nice that some one enjoys it's not looking good
I will say it's looking fantastic the worst ever thread it's not looking good
Us fans support the team and want it's looking good
we all do Daz
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I also want it looking good , but at the moment it doesn't , were now in a fight to avoid relegation , its no use burying our heads and hoping we can survive , the players and management have to get there arses in to gear now , the supporters are doing there bit , turnouts have been good recently , I for one will always support this great club , even if we go down .
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Thought like others it was a poor game today, both teams were poor. Find if frustrating to watch and why DR is not starting I do not know. We looked marginally better when he was on, but we need more creativity from somewhere. Bit of luck as well to get a win. lets hope it comes on Tuesday.
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Lee and Neil will I'm certain be more frustrated than anyone why we can't turn these draws into wins, but there isn't a simple answer. They are working with both injury and financial constraints and are doing what they can. Iits crazy to want to sack the manager, let's all get behind the team and see where we are at the end of April. Who knows you may get your wish then? Let's hope you give the next manager whoever he may be more of a chance.
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Thought like others it was a poor game today, both teams were poor. Find if frustrating to watch and why DR is not starting I do not know. We looked marginally better when he was on, but we need more creativity from somewhere. Bit of luck as well to get a win. lets hope it comes on Tuesday.
I disagree. I thought we looked worse when he came on. This is not a criticism of Damian at all before you all start kicking off. The fact is, when Crowther came off we went incredibly narrow and therefore went long ball which made us worse as McCombe and Pilkington were more than equal to the aerial challenge and had Rankine in their pocket all game. He should have been brought off instead, keeping the width and letting Reeves run in behind.
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We will finish mid table no worries wait until this team fires on all cylinders
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Thought like others it was a poor game today, both teams were poor. Find if frustrating to watch and why DR is not starting I do not know. We looked marginally better when he was on, but we need more creativity from somewhere. Bit of luck as well to get a win. lets hope it comes on Tuesday.
I disagree. I thought we looked worse when he came on. This is not a criticism of Damian at all before you all start kicking off. The fact is, when Crowther came off we went incredibly narrow and therefore went long ball which made us worse as McCombe and Pilkington were more than equal to the aerial challenge and had Rankine in their pocket all game. He should have been brought off instead, keeping the width and letting Reeves run in behind.
I agree, I was hoping we would have taken Rankine off, he was well marshalled, didn't look 100% and we kept looping balls up to him to ill effect
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We played better football with Reeves on the bench today. Again, not a criticism of Reeves, just the way the styles worked and the personnel he replaced.
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Lee and Neil will I'm certain be more frustrated than anyone why we can't turn these draws into wins, but there isn't a simple answer. They are working with both injury and financial constraints and are doing what they can. Iits crazy to want to sack the manager, let's all get behind the team and see where we are at the end of April. Who knows you may get your wish then? Let's hope you give the next manager whoever he may be more of a chance.
I get frustrated as well at work when I try to resolve something I don't have the ability to do, but I accept it I and seek training and support. I don't try to wing it. If I did I would expect my management to take action
It seems to me that football management is one of the few jobs you actually can be sh*t at but still keep your job?????
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Rankine seemed to hurt his back in the first half and was very laboured.
Bemused he wasn't replaced.
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We played better football with Reeves on the bench today. Again, not a criticism of Reeves, just the way the styles worked and the personnel he replaced.
Really?
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The simple truth is we have had too many injuries and not enough cash to strengthen. If the we had the squad at the start of the season fit we would have been easily half way.
List the players who have been injured this season who would have started today and I think you will see why we are where we are in the league.
Unfortunately i think we will go down but it is due to injuries not the manager.
I am still bemused though why we do not appear to have seen much income come from the Watmore sale, i would have expected more and did the board say we are losing money at the last AGM? I fear some dark days ahead of us.
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Densmore is a big loss, but who else is a really big miss?
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Defence looked solid today & midfield put a good effort in, our issue is obviously not scoring enough goals. He maybe looked a bit rusty today after not playing much recently (managers choice), but Damian Reeves = goals. Doesn't matter where, when or how but he gets goals - that's what he does. Off their keeper who is showboating, from the bye line, from 2 or 20 yards, goals. When we last went down Ken McKenna as manager bizarrely didn't play him, we didn't score enough and went down. Let's not go down that route again. Keeping him on the bench isn't working so let him start.
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Densmore is a big loss, but who else is a really big miss?
Clee, Havern & Leather at various times - especially when both were out
Griffith - or at least the player we thought he was going to be
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Densmore is a big loss, but who else is a really big miss?
Clee, Havern & Leather at various times - especially when both were out
Griffith - or at least the player we thought he was going to be
I'll give you Clee, but the rest no, we have had two able centre halfs all season, Holness has filled in recently
Griffith was just a poor signing and highlights poor judgement of the management, just signing old mates
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Too be fair Clee wouldn't have made much of a difference, I'm afraid to say his time at this level has come to an end imo. How long ago is it since he's been 100% fit for a reasonable amount of time. This is a big Summer whatever happens, for a decent overhaul of the squad, we have some high earners who will be leaving us so all sorts of possibilities.
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Today we played ok, a game of few chances, could had nicked it but heyho.
Do I think we'll stay up? Absolutely. We require 5 wins from 12 games. We do appear to be a confidence side, which is why I think if we get the 1 win we will get a few in an unbeaten run. We still have key games (Southport at home, Kidderminster, Halifax and Torquay away). Positive results in these games will see us through. Then if we stay up, we regroup and ensure we don't have the same again. Lessons have to be learned from this season.
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Rubbish Clee still got it , he will come back next season like a new man , and make u eat your words .
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Too be fair Clee wouldn't have made much of a difference, I'm afraid to say his time at this level has come to an end imo. How long ago is it since he's been 100% fit for a reasonable amount of time. This is a big Summer whatever happens, for a decent overhaul of the squad, we have some high earners who will be leaving us so all sorts of possibilities.
so Clee not being fit has reduced his effectiveness and hurt the team - that was the question you asked!
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I hope he does, but can't see it I'm afraid.
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It was a rare home game for me today and I thought that a fair point. Macc to be fair looked a good footballing team but toothless up top and Holness and Havern bossed it defensively. For us Ranks had a tough time and whilst I thought Crowther and Lawrie had good games defences were on top at both ends throughout. Gateshead is a huge game Tuesday, we need to stop this run of draws.
Was impressed with the 2k attendance with an average away turnout, a lot less than they brought on a Tuesday night last seaaon. Lots of kids at both ends who will no doubt enjoy boasting at school on Monday about their day out. Hopefully the police bill will not eat into the gate money too much.
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That was comfortably one of the poorest Alty v Macc fixtures that I have had the misfortune to witness.
The dearth of quality and creativity exhibited by both sides in a nondescript encounter was astonishingly bad.
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I think if we get the 1 win we will get a few in an unbeaten run.
I thought this after we beat Woking but I couldn't have been more wrong. I didn't see the game (it had to better than Queens Park v Berwick Rangers at Hampden which was appalling !) but I've had a bad feeling since Chester and I can't shake it.
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Five draws in six games would suggest to me that we aren't too far off where we need to be, if we were getting hammered 4-0 every game it would be different.
I think if we had had Dens and Nicky fit this season, we could have had a successful campaign. Fine margins.
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That's football for you, ifs n buts , we still have the chance to rescue the season , just got beat the teams like kiddy and others around us .
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I think if we get the 1 win we will get a few in an unbeaten run.
I thought this after we beat Woking but I couldn't have been more wrong. I didn't see the game (it had to better than Queens Park v Berwick Rangers at Hampden which was appalling !) but I've had a bad feeling since Chester and I can't shake it.
You definitely could have been more wrong.
We've lost once since the Woking game. We've lost just one of our last seven, so we aren't far off from what's required of us. A creative midfielder with a bit of spark would have turned at least two of those draws into wins.
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First half was terrible football but we had a better second half because we used Ginnelly more and Lawrie was excellent in his favoured central position. First half was endless long balls to the very ineffective Rankine. I think he won only two headers all game. I think we need Reeves and a deeper Lawrie for a few games. Holness was solid again, Griff had a good game too. I just feel we need to get it down on the floor and play more direct again using our wide men. Give Rankine a rest and Reeves a go.
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Players missing
Coburn
Marshall
Densmore
Grffin - parially
Leather
Clee
Griiffiths - the guy who screwed us over?
Probably more injuries i have forgotten off the top of my head.
At the start of the season Coburn, Marshall, Densmore, Clee were certain starters, even Leather could have arguably been a first team player but seemed Marshall pushed him out.
That is a big hole, albeit Deasy has done a great job.
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Deasy is my Player of the Season, to date
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Got to agree , Tim has had a good season so far , been a long time since we had a decent replacement for Stu .
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Deasy is my Player of the Season, to date
I agree - he's got my vote at the end of the season
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Deasy is my Player of the Season, to date
Agreed.
Re yesterday - I usually write some notes to go with the programme & match report as a reminder of each game. In this case I didn't bother wasting time or ink.