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Title: About right that
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 09, 2016, 10:55:05 PM
They might feel a bit aggrieved after having a couple cleared off the line, but we could have had the game won in the opening half hour. We were flying in to them and only after they doubled up on Ginnelly (who was outstanding again and is a credit to himself and his club) did they find a way back in to the game. Decent midweek turn out on a foul night. Onwards to Saturday, where again we host a side with playoff aspirations and a large away following. Be good if we could get 1500 in on Saturday after the club has had so little cash flow for three months, so again spread the word. With Borehamwood being at Grimsby on Saturday we have a massive chance to put some real daylight between them and ourselves. So get yourselves and your friends, family, whoever down to moss lane on Saturday
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: GB Alty on February 09, 2016, 10:59:55 PM
Decent turn out considering, but it wasn't a foul night at all
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 09, 2016, 11:10:43 PM
Fair comment, but it also wasn't a pleasant night
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: ASMO on February 09, 2016, 11:31:48 PM
Thought it good night myself , no rain little cold but OK , over the thousand , would of been more on a Saturday .
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Ballers on February 10, 2016, 12:02:58 AM
Think we started well and deserved to take the lead. An open goal for Ginnelly you might say but he gambled and got there. What I liked was that he didn't stand on ceremony and put it away and provided an important outlet all night. Think he brought an improved performance out of Griffin.

Equaliser came against run of play but was a good cross and header to be fair. Really took the wind out of our sails that and glad to get to half time.

Second half we didn't really get going and when we did Wrexham were prepared to be cynical to foul us and break play up. Neither side really got into a flow but we seemed to lead a charmed life before they had an even greater escape from Rankine's header.

Can't afford to pass up too many chances of 3 pts but sometimes you just need to not lose and get a little run together.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: arnald on February 10, 2016, 12:15:40 AM
I agree with figgy great first half we shud have done em
But second half they were mental all over us we will well
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: B. 4D on February 10, 2016, 12:21:44 AM
In the end, just glad to get a point.
The one thing that did annoy me was , when one of their players went down, they screamed out as if they had multiple fractures!!!
Then just got up!!!!!!!!!!
Why don't we do that.
These sort of teams just try to bully the ref.
Most of the times they succeed😔

Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Ballers on February 10, 2016, 12:34:23 AM
Ref was quite good in that respect I thought. I presume the example you mean is when Richman dived in in the first half and the lad was squealing and they were surrounding the ref but he wasn't flustered and left it at a yellow (which it was).

Likewise with Leather second half, a bit of a hoo haa but no booking.

In fact, he gave a lot of fouls but had the sense to keep his cards away.

He should've booked their centre hslf for his push on Margetts though, ridiculous foul to give away, needless. Then again like I said before, I think they look at any possible danger in such a position and bring the man down, backing themselves as such big units to be able to deal with the set piece.

Last point, Margetts seemed knackered last 20 but no Reeves. Injured? I was a little bit surprised at the lack of changes given we had Damien, Lawrie and O'Keefe on the bench and we were struggling a bit.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Mick on February 10, 2016, 12:43:26 AM
Some of the tackles we made in the second half looked 'late', but they were in fact just about timed right to be able to claim they were a great tackle which won possession in the process. However several times the referee called it a foul and gave a free kick to Wrexham, although he booked nobody either. Some dodgy decisions, albeit overall I think the ref did ok in what was not an ideal pitch

Overall a draw was a fair result.......we should have gone two up, but once they equalised they had the upper hand for most of the game and should have scored a few more (and we had our chances as well)

Decent crowd, well behaved, bit of banter and let's hope we can build on the result tonight

Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Alty Dave on February 10, 2016, 07:21:13 AM
Agree with most that was said above, cannot understand why we did not make some changes up front last night second half as Jono and ranks were struggling in the last 30? Pleased with a point but we could have had 3.

lets carry that into Saturday please.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: ASMO on February 10, 2016, 08:12:01 AM
I personally thought before the game we would lose , so I'm pleased with a point , as stated by others don't understand why reeves didn't come on for last 30 mins .
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: chesteralty on February 10, 2016, 08:38:27 AM
Thought it was a good game last night, could have gone either way Surely Damian has to start on Saturday, I really don't see what Margetts brings and didn't see much of him last night.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: andrewflynn on February 10, 2016, 08:56:45 AM
I don't want to moan because I'm happy with the point, but we were lucky to come away with it as we created nothing in the second half and all the chances went Wrexham's way. They should have won the game.

It seemed to me like we were riding our luck and settling for the draw because positive substitutions arrived far too late to make a difference.  Crowther was toss in the second half and should have been substituted much sooner, in a game where we could have done with James Lawrie in the hole for the final 25-30. I'm not too sure why we didn't make more changes to be honest. We had a promising bench last night but we opted to battle man for man across the ninety minutes against a full time side, so credit to our lads for grinding out the point.

As for the Margetts / Reeves thing, don't underestimate what a month on the sidelines can do for Damian. He was running himself into the ground before we brought Margetts in on loan so a few weeks rest should see him sharper for the run-in this season. I remain confident that he is the best striker at the club.

Pretty flat atmosphere last night which was a disappointment, very much a chat-with-your-mates affair in the second half. Decent attendance though.

Title: Re: About right that
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 10, 2016, 09:44:47 AM
As for the Margetts / Reeves thing, don't underestimate what a month on the sidelines can do for Damian. He was running himself into the ground before we brought Margetts in on loan so a few weeks rest should see him sharper for the run-in this season. I remain confident that he is the best striker at the club.

Agreed. I'll add that we're in the fortunate position of having enough strike options now to do this, whereas doing the same with Damian cost us dear in our last relegation season.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Toff Apple on February 10, 2016, 01:34:12 PM
http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/sport/158393/wrexham-afc-boss-gary-mills-admits-it-was-two-points-dropped-at-altrincham.aspx
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: jhcorbett on February 10, 2016, 02:56:36 PM
They could have had 2 or 3 goals in second half, we could have had 2 or 3 more in the first so fairly even as far as that goes. Wrexham goal came out of the blue really and they had the better of it after that, although we looked a bit tired in second half (e.g. Crowther just coming back from a lay off) and our performance dropped after a very encouraging first 30 mins when we dominated.

Jordan Sinnott continues to improve and thought that Ringo Richman had a very good game - he was everywhere in first half an very unlucky not to score. Defence again looked solid.

Plenty of things to be encouraged about for these next home games coming up..
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: roytonmike on February 10, 2016, 03:28:01 PM
As encouraging as anything else last night was the condition of the pitch - I for one was very agreeably surprised by it. The covers have clearly been very useful. Dry weather for the rest of the week should also help 'pitch rehab'.
As for the game - Wrexham should have won, in truth, but their own profligacy in front of goal cost them. We worked hard but after half-time the opposition were running the show. I'm happy to take the point in the knowledge that it slightly widens the gap over those below us & brings Guiseley within range, particularly as they won't have a league game next midweek - if they went to extra time & penalties v Dover next Tuesday it would suit us! You would think Chester should play tonight at Halifax but I wouldn't bet against a draw, which would of course mean no game for us next Tuesday.
Might be a case for a change or two on Saturday depending on how they look at training on Thursday. Poor as Crowther was for much of the time last night he did provide the cross for the goal & did far better in his position than Lawrie could ever possibly do. I am more & more of the view that if he can't play behind the main striker there really isn't a place for James in the starting line-up now, and with Margetts (whose work-rate is good) & Reeves ahead of him in the pecking order as strikers he might have to get used to the bench for a while. On recent evidence Rankine might profit from a rest - though if we have no game Tuesday it would probably be best to start him Saturday. I also think O'Keefe has to come into the midfield frame if we are to play three games in 8 days.
Finally, Mottley-Henry's loan will run out shortly. If Bradford are happy for him to stay, do people think we should keep him for another month?
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Ballers on February 10, 2016, 04:06:00 PM
I haven't seen enough of DMH to judge (just 5 minutes of him last night in fact) but I don't think we've got the bodies available to do anything other than keep him really.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 10, 2016, 04:32:56 PM
I agree with Ballers
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Leon on February 10, 2016, 05:32:45 PM
I wonder if DMH has played enough for Bradford to think it worthwhile for them to extend his loan.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: taxi Phil on February 10, 2016, 09:45:06 PM
I wonder if DMH has played enough for Bradford to think it worthwhile for them to extend his loan.
We need to start him on Saturday if we want to keep him.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 11, 2016, 08:45:06 AM
I actually quite like the look of him, for the sake of options we've surely got to look at extending him for a bit (as long as Bradford are happy)
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: LymmRobin on February 11, 2016, 09:08:16 AM
On DMH, my mate who supports Bradford told me that he is lightning quick and, sometimes,  this is with the ball.  From the little that I have seen of him, he has lived up to this pen portrait. 
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Jimmy on February 11, 2016, 09:23:12 AM
From the bit I saw at Welling he is quick
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: taxi Phil on February 11, 2016, 07:39:03 PM
He made a good quick break in the Woking game but his final touch let him down. I'd leave Crowther on the bench on Saturday and start both loanees.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Jimmy on February 12, 2016, 12:29:32 AM
Is that because you don't want Bradford to take him back or should he be in ahead of Crowther on merit?
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: taxi Phil on February 12, 2016, 09:21:47 PM
A bit of each. And Crowther's run of sickness and injury means he seldom completes 90 minutes.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Leon on February 17, 2016, 10:55:16 AM
Has DMH gone back to Bradford then?
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on February 17, 2016, 12:52:50 PM

Has DMH gone back to Bradford then?



Laurence,

I was told by Flynny that DMH had sustained an injury whilst training with Bradford City on Monday.

He was reportedly present at last evening's fixture and I believe that his loan period has been extended for another month.

 
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: robininstockport on February 17, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
Its the most bizarre loan arrangement then. Given the amount of game time he gets we must not be paying  much and Bradford can't be insisting on many minutes.
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 17, 2016, 04:27:23 PM
It's a youth loan, he'll still be doing day to day stuff at Bradford and probably getting minutes for their academy side
Title: Re: About right that
Post by: Jimmy on February 17, 2016, 04:34:14 PM
Haven't seen anymore than 10 minutes of him but he can't get a gig in a average Alty team I'd say the lad will be part time soon