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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty Razor Squad on January 29, 2016, 08:12:28 PM
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Is Costellos still the watering hole of choice before home games? I'm considering a few pre match drinks tomorrow.
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I will be in Costello's bout 1
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Cheers Jim,see you in there.
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I will bring the shaving foam
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I'm bringing a watering can for Britain's biggest plant pot
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
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Because not everyone people socialise with attends Altrincham matches. And 8 hours in one venue that isn't your place of work is a bit tedious.
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
Not a heckle as the community sports hall has improved the off field experience no end, but do we actually have any decent ale on tap? There's a lot of places now in the town centre that do very good real and craft ale (Market Hall, Costellos, Cheshire Tap etc etc) and I think we need to up our game a little bit. Hate to mention them as they do generate mixed opinions but my local side Dulwich Hamlet just get a few barrels in pre Saturday home matches from local Brewers and serve them until they run out. The queue for that bit of their bar is always huge. I believe our end of season beer festival always does well so any reason why we couldn't trial something similar to what they do at Dulwich? We have an award winning national Brewer on our doorstep in Dunham Massey I bet a couple of barrels of their ale would fly out. Apologies if ive misread the current set up but I don't get to many home games.
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
im coming 170 miles for a home match I'm untitled to drink where I like before the game.
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
Not a heckle as the community sports hall has improved the off field experience no end, but do we actually have any decent ale on tap? There's a lot of places now in the town centre that do very good real and craft ale (Market Hall, Costellos, Cheshire Tap etc etc) and I think we need to up our game a little bit. Hate to mention them as they do generate mixed opinions but my local side Dulwich Hamlet just get a few barrels in pre Saturday home matches from local Brewers and serve them until they run out. The queue for that bit of their bar is always huge. I believe our end of season beer festival always does well so any reason why we couldn't trial something similar to what they do at Dulwich? We have an award winning national Brewer on our doorstep in Dunham Massey I bet a couple of barrels of their ale would fly out. Apologies if ive misread the current set up but I don't get to many home games.
Cheshire tap.
That is one expensive bar. Took my wife in there, a pint of cider, and a glass of wine £10-60???.
I can't see it lasting long.
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
Not a heckle as the community sports hall has improved the off field experience no end, but do we actually have any decent ale on tap? There's a lot of places now in the town centre that do very good real and craft ale (Market Hall, Costellos, Cheshire Tap etc etc) and I think we need to up our game a little bit. Hate to mention them as they do generate mixed opinions but my local side Dulwich Hamlet just get a few barrels in pre Saturday home matches from local Brewers and serve them until they run out. The queue for that bit of their bar is always huge. I believe our end of season beer festival always does well so any reason why we couldn't trial something similar to what they do at Dulwich? We have an award winning national Brewer on our doorstep in Dunham Massey I bet a couple of barrels of their ale would fly out. Apologies if ive misread the current set up but I don't get to many home games.
Cheshire tap.
That is one expensive bar. Took my wife in there, a pint of cider, and a glass of wine £10-60???.
I can't see it lasting long.
The bar or your marriage...?
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This isn't a dictatorship, people are quite within their rights to drink where they want to, not to mention the CSH doesn't always have decent beer on tap. Tuesday for example there was no Wainrights on, which isn't the 1st time that's been the case for our home games.
Just to add that those who choose to drink elsewhere pre-match put more than enough money behind the bar at half time and after the game in any event.
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Rarely on Beez but always a good post
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I think it is fair to say that the quality of beer on offer in the CSH is five times better than it was previously.
The Wainwright bitter is excellent and as a drinker of it myself I can understand the frustration when it wasn't available Tuesday.......I can only hazard a guess that the club maybe didn't put it on due to the expectation of low numbers on Tuesday night from home fans and in particular away fans........barrels are expensive and only have a shelf life of a few days.
There are however a selection of bottled real ales available, which although slightly dearer, are a reasonable alternative. There is also plenty of lager
The CSH is a great facility, but as an obvious 'social type' club, it lacks the close comforts of a traditional pub. Hence I fully understand why some may choose to drink in a pub. It is also fair to point out that the group of supporters who go in Costellos also use the CSH at half time and post match and probably put hundreds behind the bar over a season.
We appear to be fishing in a small pond here once again and the real issue is how do we get the 700 odd people who never buy a pint or a pie or a golden goal or a programme, to do so?
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Oh and I should have given a mention to the Cheshire Tap.............went for a visit at Christmas
£6.40 for a pint and half of 4.2% ale.................this after I challenged a higher price !!
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
It's a bobbins pint.
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I think it is fair to say that the quality of beer on offer in the CSH is five times better than it was previously.
The Wainwright bitter is excellent and as a drinker of it myself I can understand the frustration when it wasn't available Tuesday.......I can only hazard a guess that the club maybe didn't put it on due to the expectation of low numbers on Tuesday night from home fans and in particular away fans........barrels are expensive and only have a shelf life of a few days.
There are however a selection of bottled real ales available, which although slightly dearer, are a reasonable alternative. There is also plenty of lager
The CSH is a great facility, but as an obvious 'social type' club, it lacks the close comforts of a traditional pub. Hence I fully understand why some may choose to drink in a pub. It is also fair to point out that the group of supporters who go in Costellos also use the CSH at half time and post match and probably put hundreds behind the bar over a season.
We appear to be fishing in a small pond here once again and the real issue is how do we get the 700 odd people who never buy a pint or a pie or a golden goal or a programme, to do so?
To be fair, you need to remember that those 700 are already giving a fair bit of money to the club just by going through a turnstile. Its worth remembering also that the CSH is actually getting people to spend money inside the club without going to matches so it works both ways.
I rarely drink pre or post match but it is quite right for fans to drink in the town centre on matchdays. It may have been said on here in the past by someone that they are taking the club into the town by doing so and it is a very good point.
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Some fair points Bob
My point was simply that the club would be much better off if we could encourage those that already pay their entrance fee and contribute to the club through the turnstiles, to also have a pint every so often either pre or post match in the CSH.
At the moment the CSH has what you could call a small hardcore of patrons - hence my comment about fishing in a small pond
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Please pardon my ignorance this is a genuine question.
Why, when we have a Sports Hall selling food, decent beer and with the Footy on the Telly would you be going to an alternative venue?
Not a heckle as the community sports hall has improved the off field experience no end, but do we actually have any decent ale on tap? There's a lot of places now in the town centre that do very good real and craft ale (Market Hall, Costellos, Cheshire Tap etc etc) and I think we need to up our game a little bit. Hate to mention them as they do generate mixed opinions but my local side Dulwich Hamlet just get a few barrels in pre Saturday home matches from local Brewers and serve them until they run out. The queue for that bit of their bar is always huge. I believe our end of season beer festival always does well so any reason why we couldn't trial something similar to what they do at Dulwich? We have an award winning national Brewer on our doorstep in Dunham Massey I bet a couple of barrels of their ale would fly out. Apologies if ive misread the current set up but I don't get to many home games.
This is definitely a good idea & worth investigating.
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I thought Bromley had a really good idea actually. They get some ale in from brewery local to the team they are hosting. For example when we played down there they had MPA on.
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Don't get owt in when we play anyone from Sussex or Hants, the Bognor beer experience was shocking. Very good idea though Beez, that said the sheer number of micro brewery's in this area alone means people would be throwing barrels at you simply for the exposure. I'd still have a pint in costellos at lunch time though
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Whether you love it or hate it, Dulwich's "hipster" tag has brought them a lot of publicity, with a big increase in attendances.
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/23/dulwich-hamlet-londons-most-hipster-football-club
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I thought Bromley had a really good idea actually. They get some ale in from brewery local to the team they are hosting. For example when we played down there they had MPA on.
That was a really good & novel idea & worth looking at, although I would certainly question how profitable this might be.
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I go to Costello's after the game because it hasn't got a TV.
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I believe the bar selling MPA was owned, and run by JW Lees
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Because not everyone people socialise with attends Altrincham matches. And 8 hours in one venue that isn't your place of work is a bit tedious.
unless its a really good pub of course
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I drink in ALTY prior to the game and also the csh as well went in Tuesday in fact
Reason I drink in ALTY .. Because I want too , like different places , like quiz machines , like pool etc etc
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i would choose to have a few in costellos then go to csh but would be very upset if there was no wainwrights on as the alternatives are poor . strong cider would be a winner for me maybe bottled henry westons or katy.
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To those of you who have posted a civilised reply to my genuine question I say Thank You
To those of you who responded with a spot more "emotion" I'll still say thanks and remind you that it was a genuine question, phrased politely and at no point did I attempt to dictate where anyone drank. If that is how you chose to interpret the question then that ain't my fault.
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Putting on cask beer is a bit of a gamble if games get cancelled. The beer only stays in good condition for a few days. If it's not sold it eats in to the profits.
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Sit comfortably in a pub in cosy environment, or sit around a large table in a breeze block building where you have to shout across the table to others to be heard in a less than relaxing atmosphere. Hell I don't even usually drink before the game anyway, but that would be my take on it. A great place for half time beer but not for socialising before the match imho.
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I haven't been in the CSH since the Welling away game was on telly in there. Has nothing been done to deaden the sound in there yet?
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Does the bar still not take card payments?
Also, is there anything that can be done to make it a little more... homely. Part of enjoying your pint is the ambiance, and the hall, tables, lighting etc does seem to be a little sterile.
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The sports hall does not take card payments yet it's posibley down to bank charges and insurence
It is a massive room to drink in compared to a few years back I love it at half time and after the game
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I believe Brighton do the same - good idea!
I thought Bromley had a really good idea actually. They get some ale in from brewery local to the team they are hosting. For example when we played down there they had MPA on.
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Does the bar still not take card payments?
Also, is there anything that can be done to make it a little more... homely. Part of enjoying your pint is the ambiance, and the hall, tables, lighting etc does seem to be a little sterile.
I suggested that we put up images around the bar - perhaps in chronological order. Framed pictures that could be replaced for a wedding or family party.
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To be fair the social club can't do much more,I think it's just a fact that people rather drink in a pub,however it has big screens and the TV game so gets punters that way
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Some fair points Bob
My point was simply that the club would be much better off if we could encourage those that already pay their entrance fee and contribute to the club through the turnstiles, to also have a pint every so often either pre or post match in the CSH.
At the moment the CSH has what you could call a small hardcore of patrons - hence my comment about fishing in a small pond
I don't know why I've never considered this before but could we get a voucher on entrance through the turnstiles offering x amount off a pint, or a free pint or whatever.
Not entirely practical I know but as Mick says. If we have 700 at a game and only 100-150 use the bar, what are the other 550-600 doing and why aren't they coming in?
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I don't drink no beer
I don't drink no something called whiskey cos I don't want to feel so frisky..
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Some fair points Bob
My point was simply that the club would be much better off if we could encourage those that already pay their entrance fee and contribute to the club through the turnstiles, to also have a pint every so often either pre or post match in the CSH.
At the moment the CSH has what you could call a small hardcore of patrons - hence my comment about fishing in a small pond
Fair enough Mick. It would be great if more came in (although i rarely do so i have no room to criticise others).
Cash only doesnt help. A lot of pubs take cards now but if you are in a cash only town centre pub there will be a cash machine near. Where is our nearest? The town centre where the pubs are. More and more people use cards too, and the cash culture is declining. Cash only restricts spending too.
I think the CSH will show its true strengths outside of match days to be honest.
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What about a match day happy hour? 12-1 or first x number of drinks
Once people are in they'll probably stay through.
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I seem to remember reading in Woking's programme that they offer some sort of voucher deal for money off a pint pre match ballers... Think it had to redeemed by 2pm. Seems a good idea.
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Some fair points Bob
My point was simply that the club would be much better off if we could encourage those that already pay their entrance fee and contribute to the club through the turnstiles, to also have a pint every so often either pre or post match in the CSH.
At the moment the CSH has what you could call a small hardcore of patrons - hence my comment about fishing in a small pond
Fair enough Mick. It would be great if more came in (although i rarely do so i have no room to criticise others).
Cash only doesnt help. A lot of pubs take cards now but if you are in a cash only town centre pub there will be a cash machine near. Where is our nearest? The town centre where the pubs are. More and more people use cards too, and the cash culture is declining. Cash only restricts spending too.
I think the CSH will show its true strengths outside of match days to be honest.
I've stopped taking cards in my taxi. Too many instances of the card being declined when it's time to pay, and a real attitude problem if you ask the punter to pay in advance, even if you set a competitive price.
There are always going to be situations where cash is king.
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Nothing under 20 quid should be purchased with a credit card. Nothing boils my piss more than someone ordering a cup of coffee in a pub and paying via a debit card
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Nothing under 20 quid should be purchased with a credit card. Nothing boils my piss more than someone ordering a cup of coffee in a pub and paying via a debit card
With you all the way on that Pete.
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Some fair points Bob
My point was simply that the club would be much better off if we could encourage those that already pay their entrance fee and contribute to the club through the turnstiles, to also have a pint every so often either pre or post match in the CSH.
At the moment the CSH has what you could call a small hardcore of patrons - hence my comment about fishing in a small pond
Fair enough Mick. It would be great if more came in (although i rarely do so i have no room to criticise others).
Cash only doesnt help. A lot of pubs take cards now but if you are in a cash only town centre pub there will be a cash machine near. Where is our nearest? The town centre where the pubs are. More and more people use cards too, and the cash culture is declining. Cash only restricts spending too.
I think the CSH will show its true strengths outside of match days to be honest.
I've stopped taking cards in my taxi. Too many instances of the card being declined when it's time to pay, and a real attitude problem if you ask the punter to pay in advance, even if you set a competitive price.
There are always going to be situations where cash is king.
Totally agree, cash works best in some situations. Less and less people use it though so giving them a card option in the CSH might work. And people can still pay with cash if they want.
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I really don't see the big drama in paying by debit card. Many places now have the facility for contactless payment when making small purchases, which takes less time than paying by cash. It's not like the 90's when students used to pay for half a pint of lemonade by cheque, times have moved on.
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It would be better to rent a cash machine I think the nerest one is tesco to far chip and pin is to slow
With the amount of drinks being bought
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It would be better to rent a cash machine I think the nerest one is tesco to far chip and pin is to slow
With the amount of drinks being bought
Doing that would mean having a machine which charged for using it. Banks tend to charge businesses for depositing cash so there is a cost involved whichever way you do it.
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Nothing under 20 quid should be purchased with a credit card. Nothing boils my piss more than someone ordering a cup of coffee in a pub and paying via a debit card
Grrr
Especially in every Wetherspoons in the UK where Chantelle then takes about ten minutes to make the brew and numb-nuts with the debit card takes for ever to input the PIN only then to decide that their mate would like half a shandy
Anything under £10 = cash : It should be the law >:(
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It would be better to rent a cash machine I think the nerest one is tesco to far chip and pin is to slow
With the amount of drinks being bought
Doing that would mean having a machine which charged for using it. Banks tend to charge businesses for depositing cash so there is a cost involved whichever way you do it.
I think this was looked at a while back. I understand it would push up insurance costs though somewhat in addition to more stringent security etc.
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I suspected that both options would cost the fans or the club it might
Be time to do something tho for the trade seems to be good these days
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I pay for everything possible with credit card - that way, when I'm skint, I can see where it all went. £3.92 at Morrisons this lunchtime.
Numerous times on matchday, I have to go messing about to Tesco or the Esso garage to get cash out.
I thought the club had now got a chip and pin machine?
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I pay for everything possible with credit card - that way, when I'm skint, I can see where it all went. £3.92 at Morrisons this lunchtime.
Numerous times on matchday, I have to go messing about to Tesco or the Esso garage to get cash out.
I thought the club had now got a chip and pin machine?
I can confirm that the club does have a card machine, and has had one for over two months. You can pay by card for bills that total over £10.
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I pay for everything possible with credit card - that way, when I'm skint, I can see where it all went. £3.92 at Morrisons this lunchtime.
Numerous times on matchday, I have to go messing about to Tesco or the Esso garage to get cash out.
I thought the club had now got a chip and pin machine?
I can confirm that the club does have a card machine, and has had one for over two months. You can pay by card for bills that total over £10.
Is this well known Foz?
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Doesn't seem it
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I can confirm they have a card machine. I was looking to buy a Colchester ticket by phone. I can therefore also confirm that the "4" key does not work on the card machine as I was unable to prchase a ticket as my CC number has a 4 in it.
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I can confirm they have a card machine. I was looking to buy a Colchester ticket by phone. I can therefore also confirm that the "4" key does not work on the card machine as I was unable to prchase a ticket as my CC number has a 4 in it.
Was that one not borrowed just for the day
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I can therefore also confirm that the "4" key does not work on the card machine as I was unable to prchase a ticket as my CC number has a 4 in it.
Sorry, could not help laughing at this! :D :D :D
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32778196
Interesting stats, and pub spending is still overwhelmingly cash.
If we have a card option with a £10 minimum then thats fair enough.
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Pints on a card are anti social. Large food orders ok but the beers are cash.
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Are we living in the dark ages or are all these comments from people who get paid in cash?
I for one in this day and age don't want to sit at home before I leave for a day out trying to predict how much cash I need for all eventualities.
Have any of you folks heard of contactless card payments yet? They are quicker than cash!!
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Pints on a card are anti social. Large ;Dfood orders ok but the beers are cash.
Quite right
Go to a cashpoint and draw out some cash and hand it over in the time honoured fashion
Maybe set up two queues - one for those handing over dosh and one for those who want to buy a bag of crisps on a card :D
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I don't think I have ever used a credit or debit card in a pub, apart from one that had a restaurant where I also paid for a meal.
I would only use cash to buy a round of drinks. Cards delay queues. One of my pet hates these days is filling up with petrol and having to wait in queues for petrol or to pay whilst some idiot buys their daily shopping.
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Are we living in the dark ages or are all these comments from people who get paid in cash?
I for one in this day and age don't want to sit at home before I leave for a day out trying to predict how much cash I need for all eventualities.
Have any of you folks heard of contactless card payments yet? They are quicker than cash!!
If you pay by contactless card, would the recipients of that card have to pay a charge?
If they do, I would think that would force the recipients to put the price up to cover the cost.
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Are we living in the dark ages or are all these comments from people who get paid in cash?
I for one in this day and age don't want to sit at home before I leave for a day out trying to predict how much cash I need for all eventualities.
Have any of you folks heard of contactless card payments yet? They are quicker than cash!!
If you pay by contactless card, would the recipients of that card have to pay a charge?
If they do, I would think that would force the recipients to put the price up to cover the cost.
I assume that banks process cash deposits for free then? Accepting card payments means people are able to make purchases in situations where they don't have cash, and probably prone to spend more so it's good business sense to accept them.
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It's like 1970 on here.
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I very much doubt that the club banks all its cash for free every week, although still probably cheaper than the card machines. That would probably explain the £10 minimum spend on the chip and pin.
Nobody is saying ban cash, or pay for minimal things at the bar on a card; but it is something quite progressive that could make life easier for some potential new users of the CSH and could actually bring more spending in.
Is that really such a bad thing?
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PLUS the fact that contact less is quicker than cash!
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PLUS the fact that contact less is quicker than cash!
I can't understand the problem that people are having grasping this fact, nor do I understand the luddite attitude towards using cards in general.
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The only pubs that I frequent that take contactless are Spoons. I agree that is quicker. most however have one card machine that is usually in use and waiting to authorise. Meanwhile the rest of us wait to be served.
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PLUS the fact that contact less is quicker than cash!
I can't understand the problem that people are having grasping this fact, nor do I understand the luddite attitude towards using cards in general.
Quite, I don't even take any cash with me most days I leave the house now. This thread has gone all over the shop now!
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The only pubs that I frequent that take contactless are Spoons. I agree that is quicker. most however have one card machine that is usually in use and waiting to authorise. Meanwhile the rest of us wait to be served.
You've obviously never used contactless.
The whole point is that there is no authorisation, it takes one second to put your card against the reader and it is done. Zero hold up to anyone and no fannying around with trips back and forth to the till and counting out change. Add to that the idiots that take a week to get their wallet out and start counting out the right money
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Playing devils advocate here, but what about the club coming bang up to date and also taking Apple Pay? I can then pay using my watch in seconds and don't need to fumble in my pocket for a wallet and then find the right card, count out the right cash ;D.
Im another one who reluctantly carries cash for football matches but don't usually use cash elsewhere.
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While we're at it, why do we never have drinks prices disputes behind the bar or advertised in the CH, help people get their change ready as it were.
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While we're at it, why do we never have drinks prices disputes behind the bar or advertised in the CH, help people get their change ready as it were.
I would have thought that the bill of fare needs to be displayed by law?
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While we're at it, why do we never have drinks prices disputes behind the bar or advertised in the CH, help people get their change ready as it were.
I would have thought that the bill of fare needs to be displayed by law?
It's on the pillars at the bar. Just not well advertised elsewhere. (Like most pubs.)
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The only pubs that I frequent that take contactless are Spoons. I agree that is quicker. most however have one card machine that is usually in use and waiting to authorise. Meanwhile the rest of us wait to be served.
You've obviously never used contactless.
The whole point is that there is no authorisation, it takes one second to put your card against the reader and it is done. Zero hold up to anyone and no fannying around with trips back and forth to the till and counting out change. Add to that the idiots that take a week to get their wallet out and start counting out the right money
No I use contactless regularly and agree it is fast and efficient. Only ever seen it in Wetherspoons pubs, no other pubs that I use.
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The only pubs that I frequent that take contactless are Spoons. I agree that is quicker. most however have one card machine that is usually in use and waiting to authorise. Meanwhile the rest of us wait to be served.
You've obviously never used contactless.
The whole point is that there is no authorisation, it takes one second to put your card against the reader and it is done. Zero hold up to anyone and no fannying around with trips back and forth to the till and counting out change. Add to that the idiots that take a week to get their wallet out and start counting out the right money
No I use contactless regularly and agree it is fast and efficient. Only ever seen it in Wetherspoons pubs, no other pubs that I use.
Ah, well it is in most pubs in the City right along side where there are the most cash points 😀