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Title: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 27, 2015, 08:24:36 AM
Could do with a result of sorts tomorrow after a dodgy set of results yesterday. Hopefully we can have a decent following at prenton park with it being so close and a new ground for some. The coach is available to book on as per Brian's message on here and the official site. Trains are plentiful and cheap also, so hopefully all those home for Christmas will
Opt to nip over to the Wirral with missing out yesterday. Do we know what the score is injury wise?
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 27, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
Any danger at all of the game being off?
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Post by: ShropshireAlty on December 27, 2015, 04:01:54 PM
Anyone know where is good to park round there please?
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 27, 2015, 04:08:47 PM
I parked at the ground the other year when we played them in the Cheshire cup, presume it'll be a lot busier tomorrow but it's a sizeable car park, think it's a fiver

There's info on here


http://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/conference/conference-premier/prenton-park-tranmere-rovers.html
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Post by: ShropshireAlty on December 27, 2015, 04:31:36 PM
Perfect. Thanks :).
I parked at the ground the other year when we played them in the Cheshire cup, presume it'll be a lot busier tomorrow but it's a sizeable car park, think it's a fiver

There's info on here


http://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/conference/conference-premier/prenton-park-tranmere-rovers.html
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: ShropshireAlty on December 27, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
Just watched this - https://youtu.be/SF7jdwz4YM8 - on their site. Really useful. I wonder if Alty could commission Alty TV to do something similar for visitors to Moss Lane?
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Trouty on December 27, 2015, 06:46:10 PM
With the last 2 games postponed does that mean okeefe will be suspended tomorow?
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: roytonmike on December 27, 2015, 07:46:01 PM
O'Keefe's three match ban covered Colchester (a), Leamington (h) & Cheltenham (a) so unless it triggered another ban for some unknown reason he should be available for selection tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Trouty on December 27, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
O'Keefe's three match ban covered Colchester (a), Leamington (h) & Cheltenham (a) so unless it triggered another ban for some unknown reason he should be available for selection tomorrow.
cheers
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: B. 4D on December 27, 2015, 10:55:01 PM
Hope we get a good turnout.
Tickets have to be bought from the ticket shop.
Not at the turnstiles.
We will be in The Cow Shed end.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 28, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
You can also pay cash on the turnstile at the away end Brian, I enquired with Tranmere yesterday. Let's get as many down as possible it's a very easy journey either by car/coach or public transport, we need something from today
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: ASMO on December 28, 2015, 09:26:45 AM
Moooooooo. ;)
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: B. 4D on December 28, 2015, 10:58:23 AM
Hope we get a good turnout.
Tickets have to be bought from the ticket shop.
Not at the turnstiles.
We will be in The Cow Shed end.

Cheers Pete.
Just one thing,
If driving give yourself a little extra time, because of Cheshire Oaks!!
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: ShropshireAlty on December 28, 2015, 11:56:48 AM
cheshirepolice: Severe traffic congestion in the vicinity of Cheshire Oaks In particular junction 10 of the M53. Please allow extra time for your journey.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Shiny Happy on December 28, 2015, 01:19:14 PM
I've just sat in this queue, pretty bad. So we took the left to chester down the m53 and did a u turn at the first junction. worked a treat. Just stay in the right hand lane.

Come on the alty!
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 28, 2015, 04:59:55 PM
Forget the name of the club we were playing, that was points thrown away again. By far the better team yet a defensive slip and no potency upfront has seen us lose 0-1 again. We'll go down gallantly at this rate, need additions next week, we've gifted Tranmere three points as we haven't enough creativity orcfirepower to respond when we go behind... Can't sit on our hands, we need to freshen things up.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: im not really here on December 28, 2015, 05:06:15 PM
Agreed, I had the same thoughts after the Cheltenham game. I hope there are new recruits coming in next week, if there aren't due to lack of funds, I think we should at least be told. You can't fault the lads for trying but maybe something different is required.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: VofD on December 28, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
16 corners  ???
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Post by: andrewflynn on December 28, 2015, 05:16:52 PM
If we don't bring in some more options we are going down. Once again we go a goal behind and go on to lose, relying on an unfit winger to try and change something. That being said, we probably did enough to win the game in the second half. Bar one or two breakaways I thought we were by far the better side and most definitely deserved a point.

272 there today and lots of noise, a positive.
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Post by: andrewflynn on December 28, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
16 corners  ???

Good job we're mint at them.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mick on December 28, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
Forget the name of the club we were playing, that was points thrown away again. By far the better team yet a defensive slip and no potency upfront has seen us lose 0-1 again. We'll go down gallantly at this rate, need additions next week, we've gifted Tranmere three points as we haven't enough creativity orcfirepower to respond when we go behind... Can't sit on our hands, we need to freshen things up.

Same old pattern really

Play well and lose because we make one mistake, create loads and loads and finish nothing

Very disappointed  after today. (Ref did not help either)

We need our luck to turn and a few go in off backsides etc because we are at least creating chances
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 28, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
We are competitive though. I'm dying on the sofa but it seemed that we had more than half the possession and we weren;t just passing across the back.

The real test comes at Chester. We did them twice kast year so it will be interesting to see if things have chanhed
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 28, 2015, 06:11:25 PM
Yes we were competitive, yes we were the better side, but a couple of genuine fresh threats off the bench would have won us the game today. They are the answer to turning these valiant defeats into points.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 28, 2015, 06:13:34 PM
We started brightly for 10 minutes.  After that we were dreadful, lumping balls up to Rankine,  who won nothing against McNulty.

Whole game  changed when Clee replaced Rankine  (who I thought was abysmal at best) & Lawrie played behind Reeves.

Whether we get new faces in or not we have to beat Chester.
.  
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: eightiesrobin on December 28, 2015, 06:15:36 PM
Two up front - check
Played nice stuff - check
Gave good account - check
Clee on after an hour - check
Bowerman on with five mins left - check
Spunked several chances - check
Lost 1-0 - check

Now do you believe me?

Edit to add - defensive error - check.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 28, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
As said, that was 3 points on just the second half alone. Not sure about the McNulty/ Rankine comment as deliberately or not Reeves played to the left of the two front positions and therefore was marked by McNulty. If we had been comprehensively turned over you can walk away with your hands up, I walked away gutted we didn't get at LEAST a point

I really hope we have that kind of second half performance in the locker for Chester.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 28, 2015, 07:11:34 PM
Don't know how he played but Reevsie hardly got a mention today. Rankines mentions all seemed to be about having his shirt pulled. The pair of them need to click if we're going to improve the goals for colomn
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Jimmy on December 28, 2015, 07:39:08 PM
Don't know how he played but Reevsie hardly got a mention today. Rankines mentions all seemed to be about having his shirt pulled. The pair of them need to click if we're going to improve the goals for colomn
this comment isn't about today because I didn't go,but sometimes they do ok together it's the destruction behind them because we're a man short in midfield,but maybe today was different
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: AFC56 on December 28, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
We dominated that game as soon as crowther went to the right, clee on the left James Lawrie in the hole. On another day we'd have scored at least one, probably more. We look so much better with the extra body in the midfield , allowing Jake to play deeper and start the attacks instead of a shovel up by a defender. Scott Leather has been brilliant for us, but that was his fault today for the goal, and he was also at fault for all three goals at Colchester. I hope this is a temporary blip in form.
Same formation as we finished the game to start against Chester please.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: ASMO on December 28, 2015, 07:48:49 PM
We need Dens back as soon possible , because of sinnott being out on a limb , not blaming him totally , but Scott is trying to cover for him and getting pulled out of position to much , how we got nothing from today is unbelievable, we have to start putting the chances away .
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 28, 2015, 08:19:37 PM
We need Dens back as soon possible , because of sinnott being out on a limb , not blaming him totally , but Scott is trying to cover for him and getting pulled out of position to much , how we got nothing from today is unbelievable, we have to start putting the chances away .

To be fair Scott doesn't even play next to Jordan. It's Luca that has to do the covering, and he had to do an awful lot of it today.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: eightiesrobin on December 28, 2015, 08:20:22 PM
Leather has been fairly calamitous of late.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mick on December 28, 2015, 08:32:09 PM
Leather has been fairly calamitous of late.

I thought Deasy was at fault, although some of the people I was with thought it was Scott.

The above said, don't most of the goals conceded in football come as a result of a mistake by a defender or the keeper ? If this is something we know can happen, then we have to expect the players upfront to do their bit and finish off the chances we create.

Today we created enough chances to win two games
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 28, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
After Rankine lost the ball on the edge of their 18 yard they route 1ed t over the top. Leather got outpaced but if Deasey had come out quicker he'd have got there.

Definitely Deasey at fault
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: ShropshireAlty on December 28, 2015, 08:48:31 PM
Spot on. That's how we saw it too.
After Rankine lost the ball on the edge of their 18 yard they route 1ed t over the top. Leather got outpaced but if Deasey had come out quicker he'd have got there.

Definitely Deasey at fault
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Alty Razor Squad on December 28, 2015, 08:50:01 PM
After Rankine lost the ball on the edge of their 18 yard they route 1ed t over the top. Leather got outpaced but if Deasey had come out quicker he'd have got there.

Definitely Deasey at fault


So is Rankine totally blameless if he lost the ball to begin with?
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 28, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Bo Rankine is not blameless.  Defend from the front
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: im not really here on December 28, 2015, 09:49:15 PM
Do we have to blame anyone? As someone else has said we will concede goals as every team does, our issue is that we are not scoring enough of them.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on December 28, 2015, 09:57:40 PM
Bo Rankine is not blameless.  Defend from the front
Rankine (still not fit imho) certainly has to share some blame at the start. BUT....

Leather lost Norwood and left Deasy exposed. Norwood's finish was actually decent. I'm afraid I blame Scott most. And Deasy had an otherwise flawless game, saving us on a number of occasions.

Tranmere are actually mediocre at best, and will only make the playoffs if better sides above them in the league blow up.

And whilst I don't blame him for the result,  the weird dwarf with the whistle certainly did us no favours.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 28, 2015, 10:23:05 PM
'Still not match fit '

Wasn't anywhere near any fit.  Looks like he's had the best Christmas ever
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Jimmy on December 28, 2015, 10:27:02 PM
Rankine was just as fit at Cheltenham as he was when he was scoring,the bloke is out of shape however he is usefull because of strength and not a bad touch
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: brian1925 on December 28, 2015, 10:28:55 PM
Rather than blaming lads like Scott and Tim who regularly put their bodies on the line for this.club, can I suggest that going into games against sh*t like Torquay and Kidderminster with only 11 fit players might have something to do with where we find ourselves right now.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on December 28, 2015, 10:50:08 PM
Rather than blaming lads like Scott and Tim who regularly put their bodies on the line for this.club, can I suggest that going into games against sh*t like Torquay and Kidderminster with only 11 fit players might have something to do with where we find ourselves right now.
Unarguably so, but nothing to do with today.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: VofD on December 28, 2015, 10:53:03 PM
Last 11 league games : 9 points out of a possible 33 >:(
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on December 28, 2015, 11:05:16 PM
Didn't make it today but... This season will be defined by the failure to improve the squad since the start of the awful injuries we have had. Bringing players back before they are properly fit is not the way to consolidate our place in this league. Playing half fit players isn't the way . The clock is now ticking. Doing nothing is not an option.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 29, 2015, 12:55:41 AM
We started brightly for 10 minutes.  After that we were dreadful, lumping balls up to Rankine,  who won nothing against McNulty.

Whole game  changed when Clee replaced Rankine  (who I thought was abysmal at best) & Lawrie played behind Reeves.

Whether we get new faces in or not we have to beat Chester.
.  


Missed the opening 10 minutes owing to the Cheshire Oaks gridlock.

We rather played into McNulty's hands by hoofing it up in the air in the general direction of a manifestly out-of-sorts Rankine.

Both Leather and Deasy were equally culpable for their goal, in my eyes.

We were a revelation when Rankine was withdrawn iin favour of Clee and Lawrie suddenly came alive in a more central role and caused problems by running at the mediocre Tranmere defence.

Quite how we failed to equalise from one of those numerous chances is still perplexing me.






 
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Jimmy on December 29, 2015, 01:05:05 AM
Didn't make it today but... This season will be defined by the failure to improve the squad since the start of the awful injuries we have had. Bringing players back before they are properly fit is not the way to consolidate our place in this league. Playing half fit players isn't the way . The clock is now ticking. Doing nothing is not an option.
the actual first 11 not squad has not been improved since we got promoted maybe deasey for stu,and richman and moult are vastly improved maybe we haven't the money but man for man it's a fact.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Hamilton on December 29, 2015, 01:16:28 AM
Repeatedly we have been better with Lawrie in behind Reeves.
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Post by: Alty Dave on December 29, 2015, 08:38:06 AM
We deserved at least a point yesterday against full time and in my opinion overpaid opposition, but they have good support with over 5,000 attending. Frustrating that 1 mistake in defense is punished. Personally I would have had a 5 man midfield starting yesterday with Lawrie in behind Reeves, when we did this finally yesterday we looked much more dynamic but could not get the ball in the net.

I would consider starting Clee, and see if we can get our nose in front for a change before we need to replace him during the game. Just a thought.

Lets hope for better fortune against Chester.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 29, 2015, 01:05:00 PM
Yesterday's goal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=aaqvbLjh5BA
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 29, 2015, 01:16:12 PM
Should have got a point. TR looked a limited outfit to me and I'd be amazed if they are in the promotion shake up come April,and we really should have capitalised on our second half display. Deasy for me has to be quicker off his line for their goal. I thought our support in terms of numbers of 272 wasn't great either, thought we'd have more like 350ish. Very impressive ground but far too big for them. Can't imagine they got anywhere near filling it even in the FL.

Locals friendly enough and enjoyed an excellent day on the ales in Liverpool and on the Peninsula. Ultimately though it's another gallant defeat away at one of the big boys, wouldn't matter as much if we could put sides away at Moss Lane, Chester a big big game now.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 29, 2015, 04:47:31 PM
Should have got a point. TR looked a limited outfit to me and I'd be amazed if they are in the promotion shake up come April,and we really should have capitalised on our second half display. Deasy for me has to be quicker off his line for their goal. I thought our support in terms of numbers of 272 wasn't great either, thought we'd have more like 350ish. Very impressive ground but far too big for them. Can't imagine they got anywhere near filling it even in the FL.

Locals friendly enough and enjoyed an excellent day on the ales in Liverpool and on the Peninsula. Ultimately though it's another gallant defeat away at one of the big boys, wouldn't matter as much if we could put sides away at Moss Lane, Chester a big big game now.

Tranmere fans singing our praises on Facebook and Twitter. We gave a great account of ourselves in that department yesterday despite the numbers, I was expecting 300 at a minimum.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: ASMO on December 29, 2015, 06:47:52 PM
Agree Deasy slow off his line for goal , but he pulled off several vital saves during rest of game , we really have to take the chances when they come , its not just this season it's happened we were the same last season to .
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: VofD on December 29, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last league goal ???
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: bighairedmike on December 29, 2015, 07:08:05 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last goal ???

I thought Leamington was 1-1?
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 29, 2015, 08:41:42 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last goal ???

I thought Leamington was 1-1?

Don't let facts get in way of a good bitch
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: VofD on December 29, 2015, 10:28:58 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last goal ???

I thought Leamington was 1-1?

Don't let facts get in way of a good bitch




Sorry. I meant league goals.  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on December 29, 2015, 10:55:12 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last league goal ???

That's an outrageous statement.........it's a mere 4 hours & 44 minutes!
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: VofD on December 29, 2015, 11:04:56 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last league goal ???

That's an outrageous statement.........it's a mere 4 hours & 44 minutes!

Correct. My arithmetic is PATHETIC.Thanks Brian.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: B. 4D on December 30, 2015, 01:11:49 AM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last league goal ???

That's an outrageous statement.........it's a mere 4 hours & 44 minutes!

Correct. My arithmetic is PATHETIC.Thanks Brian but you know my personal circs at the moment.

We all makes mistakes.
But I'm sure you, as a loyal supporter will be there AGAIN at Leamington  on thr 5th.
Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 30, 2015, 12:36:16 PM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last league goal ???

That's an outrageous statement.........it's a mere 4 hours & 44 minutes!

Correct. My arithmetic is PATHETIC.Thanks Brian but you know my personal circs at the moment.

We all makes mistakes.
But I'm sure you, as a loyal supporter will be there AGAIN at Leamington  on thr 5th.



I hope that VofD will forgive me if I offer a few words in his 'defence'.

I am not going to enter into details on a public forum but there are very good reasons why VofD is currently unable to attend away matches.

However, I can confirm that he was one of the gallant paying spectators amongst that meagre attendance of 355 at the recent FA Trophy fixture against Leamington at the J Davidson Stadium.

Alas, there is often a gulf between what we would really like to do and what reality actually allows us to do.

 

 

Title: Re: Tranmere - match thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on December 31, 2015, 11:02:45 AM
4 hours 54 minutes since our last league goal ???

That's an outrageous statement.........it's a mere 4 hours & 44 minutes!

Correct. My arithmetic is PATHETIC.Thanks Brian.

Perhaps you are being a little bit harsh on yourself  V. of D. but there may be a personal improvement opportunity here ;D