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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alex on October 14, 2015, 10:55:51 PM

Title: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Alex on October 14, 2015, 10:55:51 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: B. 4D on October 15, 2015, 12:27:37 AM
Well done Alty for keeping prices low😀👍
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Toff Apple on October 16, 2015, 08:19:39 AM
hmmn, going to get battered for this but doesnt this lend weight to the club slightly increasing prices so that we can become a little more competetive, being in the bottom half would be reasonable but the cheapest?
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Hamilton on October 16, 2015, 12:27:00 PM
I don't care how good they are, I'm not paying that much for a pie from Kiddie!
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: distancetraveller on October 16, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
£4-50 each but they are nice and folks do buy them.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Jimmy on October 16, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
They are like a full on meal in a tray and much better value and quality than the run of the mill pie
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 16, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Yep, the Kiddy pies are full on COTTAGE PIES not pie pies, if that helps...?!
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: York Alty on October 16, 2015, 07:02:08 PM
my mate still raves about a kidder minster pir from 10 years ago+.

top top pies.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: GB Alty on October 16, 2015, 08:46:42 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: GB Alty on October 16, 2015, 08:48:09 PM
hmmn, going to get battered for this but doesnt this lend weight to the club slightly increasing prices so that we can become a little more competetive, being in the bottom half would be reasonable but the cheapest?
it's a fair point Toff, but I see lost on the majority
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: SW on October 16, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
I think £1 more would not effect gates too much or at all surely, seeing what we pay at some away grounds. My plan would be to go to £15 in standing, £17 seating with the usual deals for kids, perhaps up to £3, but take a tenner off season tickets which currently don't compete well against higher league teams. For comparison when your pub charges 20p more a pint as they do routinely do you go there and drink less? A very rough fag packet calculation means to me another £25000 a year on average gates, including season on demands, makes another player available? Worth it?
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on October 16, 2015, 09:28:40 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

In a world where 14 quid is the cheapest in the division for a ticket to a non league football match, £1.50 for a brew is neither here nor there. I'd be far more concerned if we were charging 50 notes for a replica kit in all honesty.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on October 16, 2015, 10:25:38 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

Why are you such a trouble stirring buffoon?

I honestly believe that if we beat Man United in the FA Cup 3rd round at Old Trafford you'd still complain about something which wasn't to your particular liking
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Hamilton on October 16, 2015, 10:30:02 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

Why are you such a trouble stirring buffoon?

I honestly believe that if we beat Man United in the FA Cup 3rd round at Old Trafford you'd still complain about something which wasn't to your particular liking

Nice one ATS.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: VofD on October 16, 2015, 10:41:57 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

Why are you such a trouble stirring buffoon?

I honestly believe that if we beat Man United in the FA Cup 3rd round at Old Trafford you'd still complain about something which wasn't to your particular liking

Bit OTT I think, because someone offers an opinion which is NOT offensive but with which you disagree. To call him a BUFFOON, FFS.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: VofD on October 16, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

Why are you such a trouble stirring buffoon?

I honestly believe that if we beat Man United in the FA Cup 3rd round at Old Trafford you'd still complain about something which wasn't to your particular liking

Nice one ATS.

FFS
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Jimmy on October 16, 2015, 11:43:58 PM
At a guess are lower prices mean more away fans than others may get I may be wrong
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: bighairedmike on October 17, 2015, 04:37:22 AM
At a guess are lower prices mean more away fans than others may get I may be wrong

You may be right Jimmy, and some fans may looking it like that, but if Torquay (for example) lowered their prices by a quid it wouldn't be a mind changer for me considering the costs elsewhere; programmes, travel, beer, food for the day etc
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Jimmy on October 17, 2015, 07:22:00 AM
It's not cheap though others are to espensive
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Jimmy on October 17, 2015, 08:43:34 AM
At a guess are lower prices mean more away fans than others may get I may be wrong

You may be right Jimmy, and some fans may looking it like that, but if Torquay (for example) lowered their prices by a quid it wouldn't be a mind changer for me considering the costs elsewhere; programmes, travel, beer, food for the day etc
to be fair Torquay not a good example as your probably going for a weekend
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: bighairedmike on October 17, 2015, 10:38:41 AM
At a guess are lower prices mean more away fans than others may get I may be wrong

You may be right Jimmy, and some fans may looking it like that, but if Torquay (for example) lowered their prices by a quid it wouldn't be a mind changer for me considering the costs elsewhere; programmes, travel, beer, food for the day etc
to be fair Torquay not a good example as your probably going for a weekend

Maybe not, but you get the point...
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on October 17, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

Why are you such a trouble stirring buffoon?

I honestly believe that if we beat Man United in the FA Cup 3rd round at Old Trafford you'd still complain about something which wasn't to your particular liking

Bit OTT I think, because someone offers an opinion which is NOT offensive but with which you disagree. To call him a BUFFOON, FFS.

As you well know Jock my comment is not a response to this particular post about the price of tea.

It is about Jamie's burning desire to take every possible opportunity to have a dig at the Club, sometimes even having to invent the opportunity himself.

Perhaps he thinks he's being funny? I would suggest that if he does then he is quite possibly in a minority who hold that view.

Jamie is an intelligent guy with what i believe to be a good job I just cannot see the need for him to make such a buffoon of himself (and believe me Buffoon is far milder than the word I firts thought of)
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: VofD on October 17, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

Why are you such a trouble stirring buffoon?

I honestly believe that if we beat Man United in the FA Cup 3rd round at Old Trafford you'd still complain about something which wasn't to your particular liking

Bit OTT I think, because someone offers an opinion which is NOT offensive but with which you disagree. To call him a BUFFOON, FFS.

As you well know Jock my comment is not a response to this particular post about the price of tea.

It is about Jamie's burning desire to take every possible opportunity to have a dig at the Club, sometimes even having to invent the opportunity himself.

Perhaps he thinks he's being funny? I would suggest that if he does then he is quite possibly in a minority who hold that view.

Jamie is an intelligent guy with what i believe to be a good job I just cannot see the need for him to make such a buffoon of himself (and believe me Buffoon is far milder than the word I firts thought of)

Fair enough,then.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: GB Alty on October 17, 2015, 10:57:27 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

In a world where 14 quid is the cheapest in the division for a ticket to a non league football match, £1.50 for a brew is neither here nor there. I'd be far more concerned if we were charging 50 notes for a replica kit in all honesty.

I have just paid £1.39 for a box of 40 tea bags (Yorkshire tea as well). How can charging £1.50 for a cup of tea ever be justified?

What is the rip off (sorry mark up) on that?
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on October 17, 2015, 11:24:17 PM
The price of football survey is out and i think we stand up well against the league average (halifax fans must be loaded)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-79ccb1e7-d390-44c1-8857-cfcb0ade2595
why is our tea so expensive?

In a world where 14 quid is the cheapest in the division for a ticket to a non league football match, £1.50 for a brew is neither here nor there. I'd be far more concerned if we were charging 50 notes for a replica kit in all honesty.

I have just paid £1.39 for a box of 40 tea bags (Yorkshire tea as well). How can charging £1.50 for a cup of tea ever be justified?

What is the rip off (sorry mark up) on that?

There are widespread examples of this, though. I can buy 20 cans of beer for a tenner from my local supermarket,  but my local pub charges £3.40 for a pint. £1.50 for a cuppa is fairly standard in most places, so as valid as your point about tea bags is, for you to use it as a stick to beat your own club with is, frankly, weird. Do you begrudge your club the opportunity to make a bit of profit selling a low cost item? Where are you coming from?
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Post by: im not really here on October 18, 2015, 12:21:42 AM
I do think there is an argument though for raising gate fees, though this would benefit in the short term may not help long term, which the Board is focused on. The interesting thing is how quiet the Board are about raising money for particularly for playing budget, it's been a while since any rallying calls or requests for assistance. Some clubs would set up goals to bring in loan players etc but we tend to keep things private. Not a criticism, more an observation.
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Post by: Mallorca Alty on October 18, 2015, 08:27:19 AM
I don't see why putting the admission prices up would make any difference apart asking the loyal supporters to fork out more money. Personally I think £15 is too much to watch Conference football. £10 should really be the correct price. I don't see how some clubs in the Conference can justify charging nearly £20 to watch a game of football.
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Toff Apple on October 19, 2015, 01:45:19 PM
I don't see why putting the admission prices up would make any difference apart asking the loyal supporters to fork out more money. Personally I think £15 is too much to watch Conference football. £10 should really be the correct price. I don't see how some clubs in the Conference can justify charging nearly £20 to watch a game of football.
£10 would be an absolute steal and you would have to be certain that we would attract another 50% on the gate to break even.  £15 looks reasonable for next year
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Post by: roytonmike on October 19, 2015, 02:16:58 PM
I don't see why putting the admission prices up would make any difference apart asking the loyal supporters to fork out more money. Personally I think £15 is too much to watch Conference football. £10 should really be the correct price. I don't see how some clubs in the Conference can justify charging nearly £20 to watch a game of football.
£10 would be about right for the level below (Conf N/S); I certainly think that to charge more than £15 for Conference football is over the top. 9 clubs' minimum price is above that level -  the two clubs relegated from the FL, two in Lincolnshire who obviously still think like League clubs, three from the South-East, where the cost of living is supposed to be significantly higher than elsewhere, one in the far west which is still struggling to come to terms with not being in the League, and Halifax. It's interesting that 9 clubs appear to operate a 'flat rate' - some, but not all of them use all-seater stadia.   
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Jimmy on October 19, 2015, 03:25:16 PM
I don't see why putting the admission prices up would make any difference apart asking the loyal supporters to fork out more money. Personally I think £15 is too much to watch Conference football. £10 should really be the correct price. I don't see how some clubs in the Conference can justify charging nearly £20 to watch a game of football.
£10 would be an absolute steal and you would have to be certain that we would attract another 50% on the gate to break even.  £15 looks reasonable for next year
£10 would be fair for this level of football unfortunately we couldn't compete if that's what we charged it will be £15 next season anyway
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: ripleym on October 19, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
I shouldn't imagine players wages, and the costs associated with running a football club are getting any smaller or staying the same.

Without the injection of funds from cash rich benefactors, how reliant are we on gate receipts to support the playing budget?
Title: Re: £8.28 a goal and were being ripped off for a cuppa.....
Post by: Bob on October 19, 2015, 07:11:12 PM
 
I shouldn't imagine players wages, and the costs associated with running a football club are getting any smaller or staying the same.

Without the injection of funds from cash rich benefactors, how reliant are we on gate receipts to support the playing budget?

Looking at some previous figures then gate receipts are well under half our total income.

If we cut admission prices then the attendances need to rise accordingly to maintain the income. I cant see that happening.