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Title: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Alty TV on August 19, 2015, 12:34:11 AM
Behind the goal footage - highlights late tomorrow:

https://youtu.be/vp9lSCIJc0Q (https://youtu.be/vp9lSCIJc0Q)



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Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: eightiesrobin on August 19, 2015, 12:38:25 AM
Looks like a goal to me, it's never Bowerman's though!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: ripleym on August 19, 2015, 12:40:05 AM
Top footage.  Looks as though Rankine perhaps got the last touch?
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: GolfRoader on August 19, 2015, 12:40:29 AM
I still can't really tell in all honesty!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: (S)ALTY on August 19, 2015, 12:40:48 AM
Hmmmm

A bit dodgy that the whole of the ball was over the line ?

Well done to the Assistant Referee for giving it, he must have had X ray vision to spot that from where he was positioned ?
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Mr Woolf on August 19, 2015, 06:30:49 AM
Great camera angle bravo, og for me
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jimmy on August 19, 2015, 07:30:52 AM
Would probably be rankine didn't cross line though brilliant footage
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: RocketDan on August 19, 2015, 07:59:27 AM
Looks like a Goalkeeper OG as he drags the ball back trying to shield it from Rankine, can't see why it has been given to Bowerman. Who actually decides who the goals are awarded to? Does the referee write the name in his note book, or is it the responsibility of someone in the stand to decide?

Either way, from where i was stood only about 8% of the ball cross the line.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hamilton on August 19, 2015, 08:09:49 AM
When the keeper tucked the ball into him he took about 90% of the ball across the line imho.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: distancetraveller on August 19, 2015, 08:33:26 AM
I reckon that was a!l over the line when the keeper grabbed it..

How great to see the away end with loads of visiting fans in.. Great effort by the Grimsby faithful really good support.....
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: brian1925 on August 19, 2015, 08:35:16 AM
Come on guys, that's never gone in. And even if the angle is deceptive and it has just snuck over, the officials have never seen it in a million years. After hitting the woodwork so many times this season and having a blatant penalty award turned down at guiseley, we'll take it though!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hemel Alty on August 19, 2015, 08:40:04 AM
George was running away celebrating even before the main melee which maybe influenced the ref. Never a goal but who cares.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Nasha on August 19, 2015, 08:40:52 AM
Whether it crossed or didn't, it was a brave decision to give it by the officials. After the penalty that wasn't last week, I think the phrase 'evens itself out over the season' springs to mind  ::)
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Alty Dave on August 19, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Without goaline technology we will never know, but to me it looks over. Linesman was bang in line, so good decision by him. He flagged immediately.

Makes up a little for the one that never was against Burton in the FA cup a few seasons ago.

Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jenga on August 19, 2015, 09:04:42 AM
To me it looks over the line when the keeper drags it back and it hits his left thigh/ball sack. Only just in, a great spot by the liner/ref but how they spotted it i dont know.

Either way i will take that.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jimmy on August 19, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
Whether it crossed or didn't, it was a brave decision to give it by the officials. After the penalty that wasn't last week, I think the phrase 'evens itself out over the season' springs to mind  ::)
being wrong isn't brave
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 19, 2015, 10:00:47 AM
Excellent footage by Mark, let's hope plenty of people make a donation to his fund in the link he has put on so we don't lose this invaluable FREE service   
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Randy Konk on August 19, 2015, 12:06:05 PM
Whole of the ball? No chance.

Excellent Alty TV footage as ever...
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Number23 on August 19, 2015, 12:55:02 PM
I think we'd have been furious if that had been given against us. Even with this brilliant view of it (well done Alty TV) it's not possible to say for sure if it was over. There is no way the officials could be certain and so they shouldn't have given it.

Inept rather than anything else but we'll have a load of inept decisions go against us before the seasons out. Nice to get something from what sounds like an excellent performance.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hamilton on August 19, 2015, 01:51:49 PM
Whether it crossed or didn't, it was a brave decision to give it by the officials. After the penalty that wasn't last week, I think the phrase 'evens itself out over the season' springs to mind  ::)

Had it not been a goal it should have been a pen anyway.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: eightiesrobin on August 19, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Looks like a goal to me, it's never Bowerman's though!

According to the main site, it's been awarded to Michael Rankine, which is fair enough IMO. He deserved something for his efforts last night.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hale Alty on August 19, 2015, 03:05:24 PM
Looking at the position of Rankine's foot i'm not sure which ball he was trying to push over the line.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: wayno on August 19, 2015, 07:18:01 PM
To me it looks over the line when the keeper drags it back and it hits his left thigh/ball sack. Only just in, a great spot by the liner/ref but how they spotted it i dont know.

Either way i will take that.
totally agree I was stood with fraser and John and it was clearly over by a foot ... the footage proves that beyond doubt .. great call
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jenga on August 19, 2015, 09:44:44 PM
look at the keepers thigh, then look where the ball ended up. I still think it was over the line, but how the liner saw it god only knows.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 19, 2015, 11:17:14 PM
Possibly also a response to the vocal response of the fans and players, and the fact he may have seen me jumping about celebrating an apparent goal.

To be honest I was right behind the goal and I was unsure if it crossed the line but am claiming it anyway!!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 20, 2015, 09:50:49 PM
You can see from this angle that the liner would be able to see the ball and that the ball was over the line and with the benefit of ultra slo-mo within an inch either way of being completely over it.
I think the liner saw the keeper pulling it back with his thigh which probably convinced him it had crossed it.

I think it actually was an amazingly good decision all things considered, how often can we say that with refereeing decisions at this level  :D
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hamilton on August 20, 2015, 09:57:09 PM
You can see from this angle that the liner would be able to see the ball and that the ball was over the line and with the benefit of ultra slo-mo within an inch either way of being completely over it.
I think the liner saw the keeper pulling it back with his thigh which probably convinced him it had crossed it.

I think it actually was an amazingly good decision all things considered, how often can we say that with refereeing decisions at this level  :D

From listening to the game it seemed to me the officials had a decent game.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jimmy on August 20, 2015, 10:05:53 PM
You can see from this angle that the liner would be able to see the ball and that the ball was over the line and with the benefit of ultra slo-mo within an inch either way of being completely over it.
I think the liner saw the keeper pulling it back with his thigh which probably convinced him it had crossed it.

I think it actually was an amazingly good decision all things considered, how often can we say that with refereeing decisions at this level  :D
do you really think that went over the line?
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 20, 2015, 10:09:47 PM
You can see from this angle that the liner would be able to see the ball and that the ball was over the line and with the benefit of ultra slo-mo within an inch either way of being completely over it.
I think the liner saw the keeper pulling it back with his thigh which probably convinced him it had crossed it.

I think it actually was an amazingly good decision all things considered, how often can we say that with refereeing decisions at this level  :D
do you really think that went over the line?

Yes. Look at the slo-mo even if it didnt fully go over it was within an inch at most.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: bighairedmike on August 20, 2015, 10:18:51 PM
You can see from this angle that the liner would be able to see the ball and that the ball was over the line and with the benefit of ultra slo-mo within an inch either way of being completely over it.
I think the liner saw the keeper pulling it back with his thigh which probably convinced him it had crossed it.

I think it actually was an amazingly good decision all things considered, how often can we say that with refereeing decisions at this level  :D
do you really think that went over the line?

Yes. Look at the slo-mo even if it didnt fully go over it was within an inch at most.

stop chatting sh*t. If it didn't go fully over it's not a goal an inch or not. It's people like you that make fans from other clubs think we're a bunch of bellends. sort it out and stop being a prick. Have some grace.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
You can see from this angle that the liner would be able to see the ball and that the ball was over the line and with the benefit of ultra slo-mo within an inch either way of being completely over it.
I think the liner saw the keeper pulling it back with his thigh which probably convinced him it had crossed it.

I think it actually was an amazingly good decision all things considered, how often can we say that with refereeing decisions at this level  :D
do you really think that went over the line?

Yes. Look at the slo-mo even if it didnt fully go over it was within an inch at most.

stop chatting sh*t. If it didn't go fully over it's not a goal an inch or not. It's people like you that make fans from other clubs think we're a bunch of bellends. sort it out and stop being a prick. Have some grace.

God knows where that came from,...? You clearly havent read what I put above.

What I have said is that it was incredibly close, one way or another and the liner gave it I think because their keeper made a movement which suggested HE thought it was over the line. Youre the one being a prick towards a fellow fan.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: RocketDan on August 20, 2015, 10:26:27 PM
This may sound stupid, but there is no way the linesman could see if the ball had crossed the line with the defender and goalkeeper in the way, but I wonder if he saw a white sock of Rankine and mistook it for the ball being behind the line.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: bighairedmike on August 20, 2015, 10:29:33 PM
"I think it was an amazingly good decision?"

How is it a good decision if it's wrong? And how does that make me a prick because you're kidding yourself into believing a decision is correct despite everybody that has eyes acknowledging that it's wrong. Prick.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: wayno on August 20, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
I've just watched it again .. it's at least 3 feet over the line. . Excellent call
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 20, 2015, 10:33:36 PM
"I think it was an amazingly good decision?"

How is it a good decision if it's wrong? And how does that make me a prick because you're kidding yourself into believing a decision is correct despite everybody that has eyes acknowledging that it's wrong. Prick.

Oh dear,........ fact 1 - it was given as a goal, fact 2, nobody knows for certain if it did cross the line, even with the benefit of slo mo. Fact 3, The liner had to make a decision and he did.

Being abusive to a fellow fan isnt clever, grow up.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hamilton on August 20, 2015, 10:35:23 PM
It is touch and go as the whether the ball was fully over the line - it was certainly mostly over the line thanks to the keeper pulling the ball into his groinage - but lets just say the liner must have had exceedingly good eyesight to see it!

Must have been the same liner who called us for a foul throw v Spurs!!!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: taxi Phil on August 20, 2015, 10:38:39 PM
This may sound stupid, but there is no way the linesman could see if the ball had crossed the line with the defender and goalkeeper in the way, but I wonder if he saw a white sock of Rankine and mistook it for the ball being behind the line.
Maybe I'll learn to love the white socks after all  ;D
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: VofD on August 20, 2015, 10:49:13 PM
"I think it was an amazingly good decision?"

How is it a good decision if it's wrong? And how does that make me a prick because you're kidding yourself into believing a decision is correct despite everybody that has eyes acknowledging that it's wrong. Prick.

Oh dear,........ fact 1 - it was given as a goal, fact 2, nobody knows for certain if it did cross the line, even with the benefit of slo mo. Fact 3, The liner had to make a decision and he did.

Being abusive to a fellow fan isnt clever, grow up.

Then F***ING practise what you preach ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 20, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
What the hell is the point of all this aggression, you are just ruining the website. Frosty, get back in your hole and shut up!!!!  Cannot be an Alty fan, just a trouble maker. Sling you're hook
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 20, 2015, 10:59:44 PM
Thanks Steve, at last a true Alty fan! Why are some people so damn negative all the time  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jimmy on August 20, 2015, 11:02:48 PM
So we have to agree with you to be a true fan
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 20, 2015, 11:34:51 PM
Jimmy, its not the fact people agree or not that I am objecting to, people are entitled to their opinions or the forum would not be worth having.

It is the pointless abuse that I objected to from Frosty, then others joined in and snowballed it. If people did not have differing opinions then the forum would be uninteresting. I certainly do not object if people have different opinions to me as they may be looking at things from a different angle. I just hate it when the likes of 'Frosty' just descend things into antaganostic abuse.

I would never do things like that but I do think that Frosty should calm it down a little and grow up! And that was putting it politely. I was tempted to ask him to disappear up his own arse.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: bighairedmike on August 21, 2015, 12:16:09 AM
I'm a reasonable person, and my comments earlier were harsh. However, the correspondent "PukkaPieman" was rude to other people on the forum earlier, so to then complain about it I feel is double standards somewhat.

I wasn't being negative in my post, and as a true Alty fan, I find it irksome when people have to manipulate every situation (which in this case was very fortuitous for us) to being a correct one, especially when we are all in agreement that the ball was not 100% over the line. It is people like this that show the club in a bad light to fans of other clubs and give us the "high and mighty" Altrincham nonsense that other clubs fans like to spout about us.

Can we not just accept that the decision wasn't correct, but it has suited us no end and hopefully has kick started our season?
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hale Alty on August 21, 2015, 12:53:36 AM
Can we have some  moderation on this forum please? Can I suggest that any poster who is abusive to another user simply for expressing an opinion has the post deleted and is warned that any future abuse will lead to their registration being cancelled?
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Bob on August 21, 2015, 07:07:42 AM
Can we have some  moderation on this forum please? Can I suggest that any poster who is abusive to another user simply for expressing an opinion has the post deleted and is warned that any future abuse will lead to their registration being cancelled?

Difference of opinion is healthy on a forum. Being abusive is out of order.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: brian1925 on August 21, 2015, 07:47:18 AM
Agree 100% with Bob. Difference of opinion is what the forum is all about. However, there is a cut off point and some of the posts in this thread are bordering on the abusive. Having been a victim of it myself in the past, can I just say that such posts are unpleasant and unnecessary - we all love the club, so can we all just keep it clean?
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: andrewflynn on August 21, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
Choices of words aside, I do agree that the ball never crossed the line and we would not have the same amount of people saying it did if it was at the other end of the pitch. I really do think people are seeing what they want to see with the footage, we were incredibly lucky to be given a goal.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jezza on August 21, 2015, 09:11:28 AM
If only we had a qualified official on this forum to give us some informed reasoning on this forum as to how the liner could have given a goal.......

Even from the slow mo footage there is no still that shows the ball clearly over the line....we'd have been furious had that been given against us.

But we all agree we have to take such strange decisions...accept that officials are going to see things we don't and hope over a season it evens itself out.

I suspect had this footage been used in a sort of instant replay technology by officials a goal would not have been given?

I like the white sock theory  ;D
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hemel Alty on August 21, 2015, 09:25:46 AM
Funny how we can turn one of the single biggest slices of luck in recent years into argument and acrimony.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 21, 2015, 09:46:46 AM
We had a stonewall penalty waved away from a linesman stood 5 yards away at guiseley costing us a point, looking at the footage we got the rub of the green this Tuesday, swings and roundabouts. Move on to Dover now, tough game
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: B. 4D on August 21, 2015, 10:11:07 AM
We had a stonewall penalty waved away from a linesman stood 5 yards away at guiseley costing us a point, looking at the footage we got the rub of the green this Tuesday, swings and roundabouts. Move on to Dover now, tough game

Exactly!!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: PukkaPieman on August 21, 2015, 10:29:32 AM
I'm a reasonable person, and my comments earlier were harsh. However, the correspondent "PukkaPieman" was rude to other people on the forum earlier, so to then complain about it I feel is double standards somewhat.

I wasn't being negative in my post, and as a true Alty fan, I find it irksome when people have to manipulate every situation (which in this case was very fortuitous for us) to being a correct one, especially when we are all in agreement that the ball was not 100% over the line. It is people like this that show the club in a bad light to fans of other clubs and give us the "high and mighty" Altrincham nonsense that other clubs fans like to spout about us.

Can we not just accept that the decision wasn't correct, but it has suited us no end and hopefully has kick started our season?

Yes your comments were harsh, abusive actually, apology accepted. Cult and I were just jousting, rude maybe, abusive certainly not, he knows I respect him greatly.

Getting back to point of the thread, what I actually said was that I could see why the liner gave the goal, I never said it had croissed the line, just that it was incredibly close and he made a brave decision, they even out over the course of a season dont they  ;)
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: ShropshireAlty on August 21, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
Still happy it's a goal. It's hard to get a screen grab at the best time from the GoPro video but the one below is pretty close and shows the ball about as far over the line as it gets.

Granted this looks as if it's not quite over the line but I don't think (I might be wrong here) anyone has mentioned perspective in the discussion so far. The GoPro is on the green post at the back of the goal and perhaps 40-45 degrees off the goalline so is always going to make the ball look nearer to the line than it was in actual fact. Also the ball is not on the floor so this also makes it harder to get the perspective.

I distinctly remember seeing green between the ball and the line as it happened. The linesman, in line with the goal line will have seen the ball quite a bit to the right of where it is in the picture below and I'm certain would have seen it over the line.

A brave decision from them though and I bet a lot would have not had the courage to make this decision (again I may be wrong here) but at the end of the day it's a goal and I'll take that any day :).

(http://www.floridadreamvilla.co.uk/geocaching/altygoal.png)
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Ballers on August 21, 2015, 12:07:42 PM
Yeh, I wouldn't like to be convicted in a court of law on that evidence mind.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: ShropshireAlty on August 21, 2015, 12:16:49 PM
True :) but if you really wanted to you could mock this kind of thing up and then test the angles easily enough. Luckily we're not in a court of law and the goal was allowed. That's all I need to know :).

Yeh, I wouldn't like to be convicted in a court of law on that evidence mind.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: wayno on August 21, 2015, 01:08:07 PM
Still happy it's a goal. It's hard to get a screen grab at the best time from the GoPro video but the one below is pretty close and shows the ball about as far over the line as it gets.

Granted this looks as if it's not quite over the line but I don't think (I might be wrong here) anyone has mentioned perspective in the discussion so far. The GoPro is on the green post at the back of the goal and perhaps 40-45 degrees off the goalline so is always going to make the ball look nearer to the line than it was in actual fact. Also the ball is not on the floor so this also makes it harder to get the perspective.

I distinctly remember seeing green between the ball and the line as it happened. The linesman, in line with the goal line will have seen the ball quite a bit to the right of where it is in the picture below and I'm certain would have seen it over the line.

A brave decision from them though and I bet a lot would have not had the courage to make this decision (again I may be wrong here) but at the end of the day it's a goal and I'll take that any day :).

(http://www.floridadreamvilla.co.uk/geocaching/altygoal.png)
thanks for this. .. on 3rd viewing it's at least 4 feet over
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Jezza on August 21, 2015, 01:10:39 PM
we're just going to have to accept that we're not going to solve this without a lot more debate  ;D

and perhaps some scientific research into perspective physics....

can I use that photo as my facebook profile pic please?  ;D

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/muffintop_pride/11604061/32265/32265_320.jpg)
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: ShropshireAlty on August 21, 2015, 01:11:48 PM
You're being generous there - I thought it was only about 3 feet over ;).
thanks for this. .. on 3rd viewing it's at least 4 feet over
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 21, 2015, 02:15:48 PM
Funny how we can turn one of the single biggest slices of luck in recent years into argument and acrimony.

Yes. This!!  Hope you're not trying to spoil  my day? (Did I mention my Birthday?)



65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY    65 TODAY  :D
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Hamilton on August 21, 2015, 02:35:48 PM
we're just going to have to accept that we're not going to solve this without a lot more debate  ;D

and perhaps some scientific research into perspective physics....

can I use that photo as my facebook profile pic please?  ;D

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/muffintop_pride/11604061/32265/32265_320.jpg)

LOL
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 21, 2015, 04:17:19 PM

We had a stonewall penalty waved away from a linesman stood 5 yards away at guiseley costing us a point, looking at the footage we got the rub of the green this Tuesday, swings and roundabouts. Move on to Dover now, tough game



Well, to be accurate, it cost us the chance of gaining a point.

You still have to score from the penalty spot and only James Walshaw in recent years has been able to accomplish that feat for Alty with any regular success.

Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Ballers on August 21, 2015, 04:39:09 PM
The pedant in me is searching for a word to replace regular given that he didn't miss a single one.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 21, 2015, 05:17:23 PM

The pedant in me is searching for a word to replace regular given that he didn't miss a single one.



Ballers,

Indeed, five successes from five penalty kicks for Walshaw.

 
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 22, 2015, 06:13:11 AM
Can I just apologise both to Frosty and the rest of you for my part in the abuse - so unlike me but I was getting wound up by some of the postings.

We can debate this goal forever, but the main thing is that the ref and liner gave it so it was a goal - good decision albeit also a bit lucky. My final comment is to be that the picture shown in the postings was not where the ball ended up, it was close to the keepers thigh and therefore a goal. Hence me in the white jacket behind the goal delaying my celebration.

I hereby rest my case.
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 22, 2015, 06:26:09 AM
..and also Michael Rankine is making a very determined effort to remove the keeper's sphericals in the process of scoring!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 22, 2015, 06:27:52 AM
Happy birthday for yesterday Saughall Robin!!
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 22, 2015, 08:07:20 AM
Happy birthday for yesterday Saughall Robin!!

Thanks Steve from Sale! Had a good one. Managed to get through a steak using 65 year old teeth with the help of a bottle of red  ;)

Let's hope we can get past Dover and make it a fantastic weekend for everyone on here too!

Come on you Super Robins
Title: Re: Alty TV GoPro cam - 1st Goal Vs Grimsby
Post by: Brian Flynn on August 22, 2015, 09:17:26 AM
My feeling is that the ball did cross the line, but it is difficult to see how the Assistant Referee spotted it.

One thing is for certain, it was a stonewall penalty on George Bowerman in the build up....see Michael Ripley's pictures here:-

https://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelripleyphotography/20510102250/in/album-72157657393276246/

If the ball had been deemed to not have crossed the line, then it should have been a penalty & a red card for the Grimsby player.