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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: distancetraveller on August 05, 2015, 12:12:15 PM
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Is it still there??????
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This must be a wind up.
But just in case it is a genuine enquiry.....................yes it is still there and even bigger than last year.
There is no decent viewing position left on the pop side now.
In fact I would go as far as to say there are no really good viewing positions left in the ground apart from some central seats in the main stand.
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Alty tv
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In fact I would go as far as to say there are no really good viewing positions left in the ground apart from some central seats in the main stand.
Bit harsh
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This must be a wind up.
But just in case it is a genuine enquiry.....................yes it is still there and even bigger than last year.
There is no decent viewing position left on the pop side now.
In fact I would go as far as to say there are no really good viewing positions left in the ground apart from some central seats in the main stand.
It isn't a wind up I asked in the forlorn hope that it would have shrunk somewhat.
Obviously it hasn't which is a pity....
We must be the only ground which has lost roughly 15% of its capacity
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In fact I would go as far as to say there are no really good viewing positions left in the ground apart from some central seats in the main stand.
Bit harsh
I don't think its harsh to say that home fans now have no quality places to watch the game. With the middle of the popular side now out of bounds, and those flagstones now demolished, I reckon the best view outside of the main stand can now be found at the top of the away end. I can't think of anywhere else that would give you such an open view of the entire pitch? Lots of away fans have commented on the good view.
I think the view from the Golf Road end is bordering on poor, and when we attack the away end on the second half its an absolute nightmare if we're segregated at the half way line. That is my only real concern because although I'm not arsed about having a pristine view of the game, there is a point where you have a right to complain, and not being able to see your team defend for 45 minutes / having to look through a metal fence to see us attack is a bit of a joke really.
That is my only problem with the gantry, although I respect that it is 100% necessary.
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If the scaffolding is indeed bigger than last year then that's a huge disappointment. It seems that we're losing the popular side in order to provide broadcast facilities to those who don't / can't attend games for whatever reason. While I appreciate that we have a league obligation to film games, surely it could be done with a much smaller scaffolding structure. Like a lot of people, I prefer to watch the game from the end of the ground that we are attacking, but the view when we are attacking the away end is a shambles due to unnecessarily large sterile areas, scaffolding and crappy bits of metal fence tied together with string. Surely as a club we can do better than this.
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The club don't care.
People have been complaining about the scaffolding/segregation issue on the Popular Side for years and nothing's changed.
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The gantry needs to be around the half way line for a decent view/footage? I brought a few pals down to the Macc game last year and we were pushed right up against scaffold bars with very little view it was dangerous and not worth paying for. If the club want to have this big gantry they need to invest in segregating the away fans on the chequers end not the home fans on the popular side, why cant they put some of that webbing up like seated stadiums do 3/4 across the away end?
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The club don't care.
People have been complaining about the scaffolding/segregation issue on the Popular Side for years and nothing's changed.
Sad but quite probably true.
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Yes, Let's keep with the conspiracy theories shall we?
The "club" have an obligation to provide facilities for broadcast TV cameras and other media.
Radio Robins, Alty TV and, for this season at least, BT Sport (my job seems as though we had no other volunteers) all have to go up there.
Yes I appreciate it takes up a large surface area, but it's the only place we can go for the time being.
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Yes, Let's keep with the conspiracy theories shall we?
The "club" have an obligation to provide facilities for broadcast TV cameras and other media.
Radio Robins, Alty TV and, for this season at least, BT Sport (my job seems as though we had no other volunteers) all have to go up there.
Yes I appreciate it takes up a large surface area, but it's the only place we can go for the time being.
Its hardly a conspiracy. If the powers at be were arsed then last season we wouldn't have been repeatedly segregated out of the final third of the popular side. Its well documented that people are pissed off with the gantry, yet hundreds had to bunch up around it. That is only going to bring further negativity towards it.
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Its hardly a conspiracy. If the powers at be were arsed then last season we wouldn't have been repeatedly segregated out of the final third of the popular side. Its well documented that people are pissed off with the gantry, yet hundreds had to bunch up around it. That is only going to bring further negativity towards it.
OK, So given the obligation to provide these facilities, what else do you suggest?
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Put it on the roof, accessed by a metal building site type dog-leg staircase situated behind in the car park and protected by a lockable steel gate.
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Put it on the roof, accessed by a metal building site type dog-leg staircase situated behind in the car park and protected by a lockable steel gate.
Genuinely agree, great idea, would be much better for all concerned I guess.
I'm sure you wont mind organising the planning permission, fund raising etc to get this done?
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Pity it couldn't have been incorporated on top of the community sport hall...
That said the fact remains it is not ideal in its present format. Funding or not....
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Pity it couldn't have been incorporated on top of the community sport hall...
That said the fact remains it is not ideal in its present format. Funding or not....
Oh I agree Ray, as I'm sure Mark Bennett, Brian Flynn and the rest of the team do, but it's all down to available resources at the end of the day :-(
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As has long been muted, the way to diffuse this situation is to tape off the final section of the chequers end, for 90% of visiting teams it isn't needed. York do exactly the same, it doesn't need fencing, just yellow and black tape and a couple of stewards stood inside it as a sterile area. Problem solved and home fans can use the full pop side for every game apart from about 3..... And leave them in there all game, the bar is busy enough at halftime with home fans.They can come in after for a pint, but segregation should be in place for EVERY league fixture, makes life easier for everyone.
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As you can see last section taped off, steward in sterile area, no problem
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If you scroll to the bottom of this page you will see two pictures from when we played at work and it's the same, last section taped off
http://www.altrinchamfc.co.uk/alt0506d.htm
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How long has this level of scaffolding been up? I'm sure it wasn't always like this?
And yes, it's exacerbated by this ridiculous idea that we have to provide cover for the away fans, lest the poor little lambs get wet or not have the wherewithal to bring a coat or sit in the main stand that holds over a thousand people.
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Personally I would tell BT Sports to Piss off . they won't be here anytime soon if at all this season. TV companies have far too much say in football these days. It's non league we watch Not the fkn Premiership.
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The scaffolding is plain ridiculous. I'd agree with other posters that some of the best vantage points are now denied to home fans,( at least those that prefer to stand) - Chequers end, flags, and pop side central section. Even at either side of the gantry the view is restricted.
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Frankly the whole ground is looking like Steptoes Yard.
Sections of the pitch perimeter fencing is now held together by yet more scaffolding.
A portacabin at the end of the pop side seems to be empty and hardly adds to the esthetics.
The segregation fence is a real lash up. Even your average DIYer would not look at that with any pride.
Lets hope the community hall starts generating enough profit to enable us to spruce up the ground.
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To be honest I find the mantra of can't afford, who's paying/organising this, are you going to do it, rather tedious. If we want to play with the big boys we need to act like a proper professional club rather than some two bob outfit that makes do. Some of the jobs required are in the scheme of things not that large and seem to be no trouble for clubs much smaller than us. I'm also amazed that Trafford MBC actually accept that scaffolding and a flaming ladder on a spectator terrace as acceptable. As someone who works for a local authority and has considerable experience of Safety at Sports Grounds it is a mystery to me.
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I stand in the Golf Road, so not a major issue for me but..........
1) There is no real suitable standing on the half way line.
2) The pop side is blighted by scaffolding.
3) We have scaffolding on the chequers end which has only been used on a couple of occasions.
4) Do we still have the builders yard in the golf road end?
5) Do we still have the grass cutting equipment sat in the kiddies corner - not sure kids and grass cutting equipment go together, an insurance claim waiting to happen.
6) Part of the main stand cant even see the whole pitch.
I could go one in to the steps on the chequers, the barriers, the roof with holes, etc etc.
I am sure the club would love to have a pristine ground and i appreciate it wont happen in the short term at least, but surely some things can be sorted.
Here is a suggestion - the seats in the main stand with restricted view can be made into a TV / RR area? Remove some seats and bingo. Then all the scaffolding can come down and fans cant complain as they probably dont sit there anyway. The cameras can be placed on the first seat with full view - I hate to say it but I do think i may have hit on something here?
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If fans can't see from the main stand how's Altytv supposed to film it? I believe the scaffolding
In the away end has been taken down.
Also Trafford Mbc are supposed to issue a safety certificate each season they used to do it during
The season so they could be entertained in the sponsors lounge.
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If fans can't see from the main stand how's Altytv supposed to film it? I believe the scaffolding
You perhaps missed my point I think Darren as to what i can see in my head, perhaps not easy to explain but i will try in more detail.
I am suggesting removing some seats. Make an area, including a area for seating for the main commentator and the other commentator can sit in a restricted view seats whilst not commentating. This way it wont affect RR as that second commentator wont be fully reporting at that time. The camera goes in the first or second seating position which has full view.
So the area is maybe 10 seats long and two or three seating rows down and boarded off much like the tanoy area and can have room for a table etc. And the bonus is that Alty TV and RR could be behind glass and warmer and all the people on the pop side can see, people cant complain of restricted viewing in the main stand. Bingo all our problems are solved.
As a side issue, if it is not suitable for Alty TV, then what makes it suitable for paying fans to sit there.
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The gantry was built so that MUTV could show MUFC reserve games. They don't play at Mos Lane anymore. It's convenient for Alty TV and Radio Robins to use the gantry, but they are an add on, a luxury, nice to have but not the main event. They shouldn't be accomodated at the expense of being able to watch the game from the terraces.
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Personally I do think that Alty TV and RR should most definately be there, they do a great job, hence my suggestion of a nice cosy area in the main stand for them. They are volunteers well all said and done, so maybe something more permanent is needed, hence my suggestion :-)
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Jenga... I think what you suggest is a very good idea. With a bit of luck the powers that be may hopefully investigate the possibility of implementing your idea.
A positive response to a long standing problem
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Jenga great idea they used to film Mufc reserves games from there
But because of the 2 great big pillars that hold the roof it
It gave a obscure view. I agree something needs looking into.
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Personally I do think that Alty TV and RR should most definately be there, they do a great job, hence my suggestion of a nice cosy area in the main stand for them. They are volunteers well all said and done, so maybe something more permanent is needed, hence my suggestion :-)
Jenga, I think you miss the point. If the section of the stand doesn't have a clear view of the pitch how can you expect commentators to sit there. Also a number of fans are unhappy with the view from there, so if it not good enough for spectator view how could it be good enough for TV?
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Personally I do think that Alty TV and RR should most definately be there, they do a great job, hence my suggestion of a nice cosy area in the main stand for them. They are volunteers well all said and done, so maybe something more permanent is needed, hence my suggestion :-)
Jenga, I think you miss the point. If the section of the stand doesn't have a clear view of the pitch how can you expect commentators to sit there. Also a number of fans are unhappy with the view from there, so if it not good enough for spectator view how could it be good enough for TV?
Read what i said again please.
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Jenga forgive me if i misread this but if you take out seats a few rows down from the press box, and then board and glaze it, you are potentially using up what is already a reduced number of seats available with a decent view; potentially dislodging season ticket holders from their seats, and blocking the view of those behind or even sat to the side, not to mention the press box. It would solve the popular side problem but create similar problems in the main stand. Again, apologies if i read it wrong.
Put a smaller gantry on the popular side which doesnt require as much scaffolding (as we have had in the past) and have radio robins by the main stand press box.
Would that work? Or do radio robins and alty tv need to be together? All hypothetical to be fair anyway.
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I haven't read all the posts so I apologise if I repeat suggestions. Firstly just keep all games segregated, if needed set up higher fencing in the far corner, it's always a better atmosphere too, I enjoy the banter and look forward to the second half - as mentioned there is only a handful of games which need distance segregation. The scaffolding is a problem and I don't know why they don't use supports from the stand roof to hold the recording area, it would then be like a floating platform with no metal underneath. Then have a twisted staircase at the back of the stand leading up. You can't film it from the stand and have running commentary it would cause a load of complaints from those paying extra to sit, they don't want Flynny screaming in the stand haha! All costs money but support scaffolding from the roof!
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Just another observation...........maybe been said before............but previously the scaffold TV gantry in the central section of the Popside was an 'underslung' scaffold i.e. it was supported from the steel roof beams and meant that people could stand beneath it and even if they could not, the view was not restricted by scaffolding because it was at high level
The TV gantry is now a 'bottom-up' scaffold in that it is supported from the floor. Why did it need to change - maybe the extra weight of extra persons and equipment using the gantry? If it could be changed back (£££) and a the 'York City' style sterile area adopted, then I think it would solve a lot of the points associated with restricted views and vantage points
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Oh ................Mr Needham beat me to it with his post
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I have a photo of what I mean but it won't attach using my phone. Basically a floating platform, the stand roof should have supporting bars and if not they can be easily fitted but it all costs a lot of money. Would look smart though!
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Like this?
http://www.footballgroundguide.com/altrincham/popular-side-moss-lane-altrincham.jpg
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Some great posts on this thread and i think jenga makes some good points, many things are in need of urgent attention, perhaps some of the watmore money could be used for this? Anyone any idea how much we got for him?
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Bearing in mind all our close season signings were free, and we still owe the best part of 60k on the sportshall I would say there was very little in the coffers to spend on anything to do with changing the camera stanchions.
For now things will probrably have to stay as they are; these are the sort of things that may come with a cup run, whenever that may happen. The club is a on a very tight budget, has commitments and therefore must prioritise it's spending, even though I agree with many of the comments.
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Doesn't the sports hall run its own budget and funding is separate from the football club?
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I think it is worth summarising / restating the problem statement, which would seem to be; "a combination of the TV gantry setup and the way we segregate is seriously undermining the ability for home supporters to watch the game from the popular side"
The next step for me is to come up with a solution, or preferably solutions for this problem, along the lines of many of the posts on this topic. If we had more than one viable solution, we could cost them both and potentially then have a single costed preference.
This could then be publicised as an ambition by the club, along the lines of "before the start of next season / as soon as we can raise £x thousand we will set up a new tv gantry meeting the following criteria and implement a new segregation model as follows"
We would all know the end state ambition, the length of time we would have to put up with the existing arrangements and this would clearly be less frustrating than the current situation
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It starts with keeping the segregation in place to me. It's all very well being accommodating, but everyone knows the state of play if it's rigid every game. Give travelling clubs the 60 seats nearest the away end in the family stand on the proviso it's zero tolerance to any unruly behaviour. Problem solved.
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Some very good posts on this topic... I agree that some sort of comment from the club to indicate the way forward with this topic would at least put people minds at rest. I fully understand the monetary situation but just talking about it on here will not solve the problem...
Totally agree that consistent and sensible segregation is a good way to kick this off. Let's start it tomorrow and set the standard for the season...
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Hopefully plans including fundraising will be put in place this season , an announcement from the club would be good. I would think about changing the family stand to an away stand.
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Just to echo what Pete said, really, I think we need to make the best of a bad situation here. In the absence of funds to make alterations to the structure of the popular side, we should at least ensure that our fans can move all the way down to the bottom of the pop side when segregation is in place and not just half way along. Get rid of the fences that are currently used for the midway segregation and clear as much of the clutter as reasonably possible. If a sterile area is required, make it part of the away end instead of the home end and if away fans want a roof, let them pay to sit in the stand.
A long term solution for the camera gantry can be found in due course, but there are still things that could be done in the meantime at little or no cost to alleviate the effect it is having on our paying customers.
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The point I most agree with is that we should segregate every match. It's detrimental to the atmosphere when free roaming is allowed and gives away fans the opportunity to use the roof to make themselves heard in our ground. Every game should be segregated at this level regardless of travelling numbers whether it be 10 from Boreham Wood or 1000 from Tranmere.
It's important that we utilise every possibly advantage to gain points at home in my opinion and segregation is one of them.
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I appreciate it will cost but something like they have at Bath City would be ideal?
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I think it is worth summarising / restating the problem statement, which would seem to be; "a combination of the TV gantry setup and the way we segregate is seriously undermining the ability for home supporters to watch the game from the popular side"
The next step for me is to come up with a solution, or preferably solutions for this problem, along the lines of many of the posts on this topic. If we had more than one viable solution, we could cost them both and potentially then have a single costed preference.
This could then be publicised as an ambition by the club, along the lines of "before the start of next season / as soon as we can raise £x thousand we will set up a new tv gantry meeting the following criteria and implement a new segregation model as follows"
We would all know the end state ambition, the length of time we would have to put up with the existing arrangements and this would clearly be less frustrating than the current situation
You really are a management guru ;D............Mission Statements; realising synergies, building stakeholder confidence etc................but I do agree, the club needs every spare penny for the squad and we will have to find a workaround rather than building a new main stand to house the new media centre
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In that case I challenge the club to get a quote for building a gantry like the Bath City one. When my standing order for the CSH tellies runs out I'd be happy to renew it to contribute to a new TV gantry.
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A side discussion that has evolved through this involves seating for away fans. I strongly believe away fans should not be allowed entry to the main stand, it makes a mockery of segregation elsewhere, the idea of making a small section of the family stand open to away fans with demarcation is a good one. We should be making a few seats available but restricted to those supporters who find it difficult or are unable to stand for two hours. We should also be introducing a covered area for disabled supporters with a seat for a carer or friend adjacent, three or four spaces could be added on the flat bit of the away end reasonably cheaply. We need to remember that the Equalities Act applies to us and failure to provide provision could lead to legal action against the club.
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A side discussion that has evolved through this involves seating for away fans. I strongly believe away fans should not be allowed entry to the main stand, it makes a mockery of segregation elsewhere, the idea of making a small section of the family stand open to away fans with demarcation is a good one. We should be making a few seats available but restricted to those supporters who find it difficult or are unable to stand for two hours. We should also be introducing a covered area for disabled supporters with a seat for a carer or friend adjacent, three or four spaces could be added on the flat bit of the away end reasonably cheaply. We need to remember that the Equalities Act applies to us and failure to provide provision could lead to legal action against the club.
Are you suggesting we only allow away fans to sit if they have walking difficulties etc.?
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If seating is to be safe, relatively segregated and not taken over by big numbers from larger clubs, then yes. If a team bring a small number who can be trusted to behave then no. First dibs to those who need it, easy to do by ticketing for higher profile fixtures. Also, no, not walking difficulties, people who can't stand for two hours, older people, people struggling with younger kids, pregnant women, may I also say larger people.......people who have genuine difficulties. The buses and trains can manage it! :o
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If seating is to be safe, relatively segregated and not taken over by big numbers from larger clubs, then yes. If a team bring a small number who can be trusted to behave then no. First dibs to those who need it, easy to do by ticketing for higher profile fixtures. Also, no, not walking difficulties, people who can't stand for two hours, older people, people struggling with younger kids, pregnant women, may I also say larger people.......people who have genuine difficulties. The buses and trains can manage it! :o
How would it work with younger, healthy fans who could stand easily yet wanted to watch the game with an older, less mobile relative who needed to sit for health reasons? That was my situation for a lot of last season and I daresay it applies to others too.
I'm not saying this to be awkward, and I agree with you that the level of terrace segregation is laughable when there is none in the stands. But if you start restricting normal seats to certain people based on their ability to stand then that is opening up a big can of worms.
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A side discussion that has evolved through this involves seating for away fans. I strongly believe away fans should not be allowed entry to the main stand, it makes a mockery of segregation elsewhere, the idea of making a small section of the family stand open to away fans with demarcation is a good one. We should be making a few seats available but restricted to those supporters who find it difficult or are unable to stand for two hours. We should also be introducing a covered area for disabled supporters with a seat for a carer or friend adjacent, three or four spaces could be added on the flat bit of the away end reasonably cheaply. We need to remember that the Equalities Act applies to us and failure to provide provision could lead to legal action against the club.
Suggested away fans seats segregated a few years ago when I was safety officer
Got told no they want do tickets as its more expensive plus putting a sterile area
In reduces the seats available, Also it's classed as a family stand by the club and
Also where the sponsors sits. A bit of thought it probably could be done.
The facilities i.e. toilets need improving also etc
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If seating is to be safe, relatively segregated and not taken over by big numbers from larger clubs, then yes. If a team bring a small number who can be trusted to behave then no. First dibs to those who need it, easy to do by ticketing for higher profile fixtures. Also, no, not walking difficulties, people who can't stand for two hours, older people, people struggling with younger kids, pregnant women, may I also say larger people.......people who have genuine difficulties. The buses and trains can manage it! :o
How would it work with younger, healthy fans who could stand easily yet wanted to watch the game with an older, less mobile relative who needed to sit for health reasons? That was my situation for a lot of last season and I daresay it applies to others too.
I'm not saying this to be awkward, and I agree with you that the level of terrace segregation is laughable when there is none in the stands. But if you start restricting normal seats to certain people based on their ability to stand then that is opening up a big can of worms.
No, it is customary to allow friends and carers into the same section. Easily by ticket or common sense stewarding which we already have in abundance. Allow the first two or three rows then decide on the day. Tickets if it is A big club.
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A side discussion that has evolved through this involves seating for away fans. I strongly believe away fans should not be allowed entry to the main stand, it makes a mockery of segregation elsewhere, the idea of making a small section of the family stand open to away fans with demarcation is a good one. We should be making a few seats available but restricted to those supporters who find it difficult or are unable to stand for two hours. We should also be introducing a covered area for disabled supporters with a seat for a carer or friend adjacent, three or four spaces could be added on the flat bit of the away end reasonably cheaply. We need to remember that the Equalities Act applies to us and failure to provide provision could lead to legal action against the club.
Suggested away fans seats segregated a few years ago when I was safety officer
Got told no they want do tickets as its more expensive plus putting a sterile area
In reduces the seats available, Also it's classed as a family stand by the club and
Also where the sponsors sits. A bit of thought it probably could be done.
The facilities i.e. toilets need improving also etc
Whilst i like the idea of the club remaining family orientated, the league has changed so much in recent years the club needs to move with the times. We need segregation, we need a seated section for the away supporters. We need to bring the club up to date in its ideas in my opinion to represent the present and the future, not the past.
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A side discussion that has evolved through this involves seating for away fans. I strongly believe away fans should not be allowed entry to the main stand, it makes a mockery of segregation elsewhere, the idea of making a small section of the family stand open to away fans with demarcation is a good one. We should be making a few seats available but restricted to those supporters who find it difficult or are unable to stand for two hours. We should also be introducing a covered area for disabled supporters with a seat for a carer or friend adjacent, three or four spaces could be added on the flat bit of the away end reasonably cheaply. We need to remember that the Equalities Act applies to us and failure to provide provision could lead to legal action against the club.
Suggested away fans seats segregated a few years ago when I was safety officer
Got told no they want do tickets as its more expensive plus putting a sterile area
In reduces the seats available, Also it's classed as a family stand by the club and
Also where the sponsors sits. A bit of thought it probably could be done.
The facilities i.e. toilets need improving also etc
Whilst i like the idea of the club remaining family orientated, the league has changed so much in recent years the club needs to move with the times. We need segregation, we need a seated section for the away supporters. We need to bring the club up to date in its ideas in my opinion to represent the present and the future, not the past.
I agree the league is full of ex league clubs and some have big following s
The only problem is money for improvements and to pay staff to make,sure we
Have the right staffing levels for the changes.
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If seating is to be safe, relatively segregated and not taken over by big numbers from larger clubs, then yes. If a team bring a small number who can be trusted to behave then no. First dibs to those who need it, easy to do by ticketing for higher profile fixtures. Also, no, not walking difficulties, people who can't stand for two hours, older people, people struggling with younger kids, pregnant women, may I also say larger people.......people who have genuine difficulties. The buses and trains can manage it! :o
How would it work with younger, healthy fans who could stand easily yet wanted to watch the game with an older, less mobile relative who needed to sit for health reasons? That was my situation for a lot of last season and I daresay it applies to others too.
I'm not saying this to be awkward, and I agree with you that the level of terrace segregation is laughable when there is none in the stands. But if you start restricting normal seats to certain people based on their ability to stand then that is opening up a big can of worms.
No, it is customary to allow friends and carers into the same section. Easily by ticket or common sense stewarding which we already have in abundance. Allow the first two or three rows then decide on the day. Tickets if it is A big club.
So if was, say, Macc. You would make the seated areas all ticket but restrict Macc seats to people who couldnt stand unless it was an accompanying friend?
How does somebody prove they cannot stand? Doctors notes at the turnstiles? Do you restrict how many friends they can bring?
Easier to make the bigger home matches all ticket for the stands but no restrictions on whether you can stand or not. The extra income would probably cover stewarding, policing anyway.
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I'm glad that the fact that the 'family stand' is also the area for sponsors' seating has at last been mentioned. Assuming that the venue for the sponsors' pre-match meal & half-time refreshments remains the same the area where they then sit can't change and to have visiting supporters in that same area on a regular basis would seem inappropriate. It's a difficult issue - if money were no object the open end could be revamped with a low roof (I doubt anything higher than the present rear wall would get past the planning authorities) and a small section of seating (Cambridge managed this a while ago by angling the seats so as not to impair views) and then given over - much as I hate the idea - to visiting supporters. Money, however, is tight so alternative solutions are needed. A 'sterile area' - if needed - could be created by blocking off the area of the open terrace nearest to the Pop Side; this would still leave more than enough space for most of our visitors. If we expect to be allocated seating at those away grounds where a mix of accommodation is available we really have to offer that facility ourselves, so some seats in the Main Stand appears the only viable option at the moment.
As for the Pop Side scaffolding, it is an eyesore, it is in the way, but at the moment I see no alternative given that we have to facilitate cameras. Hopefully someone will put their mind to the problem during the season.
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I think the time has come to make our ground an all seater stadium.
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It seems like the new "ask the board" section in the programme is asn ideal conduit to ask for intentions on this area.
I'm a main stand sitter, and I dislike it when a big away crowd is in, unless we are winning - Bristol game last season springs to mid as highly entertaining
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It seems like the new "ask the board" section in the programme is asn ideal conduit to ask for intentions on this area.
I'm a main stand sitter, and I dislike it when a big away crowd is in, unless we are winning - Bristol game last season springs to mid as highly entertaining
Chester on New Year's Day was even more amusing!
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Or either of the home macc games ;-)
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I know theres no money but the holes at the back of the popular side nearest the golf road end also could do with sorting.
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And replacing what looks suspiciously like asbestos sheeting all over the ground.