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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: ASMO on July 24, 2015, 10:16:30 PM
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The scoreline tonight , thought we did OK , they took their chances and we didn't .
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Not really
2 nil maybe a more fair score as a reflection of game, but Crewe were a good footballing side and never looked in trouble apart from say a ten minute period 30 minutes in when we had them rattled
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We were better than the scoreline gives credit to be honest, I felt that despite the first couple of minutes, we had them on the rack for the second part of the first half and showed more of what we are about. We still seem to be unable to finish off moves, which is something we really need to be working on. We did get caught out in the first couple of minutes, which is a timely lesson for us, and a reminder for the start of the season.
Crewe look a very good side and should have a pretty good season. Of their bunch of fans, their behaviour left a lot to be desired. Though not in any way nasty or aggressive, their mocking behaviour towards our stewards just got me wound up even though the likes of Mike took it with good humour and patience; I would have wanted to kick them in the cherries.
Despite handshakes at the end, they just irritated me, I must be getting old.
Aside from that we played ok during the course of the game, and despite the result it was good workout for us. I also thought Michael Rankine had a great game, the new trialist looked ok.
Rather than slagging him off lets now see what happens with Jordan Sinnott now he has a contract. The jury is out for me on him, but he now has the chance not to be a bit-part player. I will look and see how he does, fair play to him if he shows a bit of mettle and takes the opportunity which is there for him, but I refuse to slag him or other players off until autumn at least. Give them all a chance now shall we?
Looking good so far, once we get into the swing and there is still time for one or two more signings as yet!!
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Steve to be honest Jordan Sinnott wasn't a bit part player he started nearly every game at the end of last season
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Hi Jimmy
Whilst I agree with you, rarely did he complete a game last season after being on from the start. I consider a player who never feature in full games as a bit part player, rather than a player who managers build a team around. Perhaps my definition is wrong, do correct me but I do not recall seeing Jordan play many full games for us.
This what I would like to see next season, players joining the likes of Luca, Adam and Dens proving their worth. If Jordan is good enough he will be worth the place, lets see if the contract he now has earned in Lee's eyes comes to fruition, rather than he being written off as being another Nigel Clough. Give the lad a chance before we say it is a bad signing and everyone says Lee has made a bad decision, we are after all getting an established player with league experience. I am also sure that Lee will have told him to prove himself. Watch this space!! But don't write him off yet.
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Js mainly played right midfield and as the only other options there are Lawrie or Richman , I suspect JS could end up starting there.
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Hi Jimmy
Whilst I agree with you, rarely did he complete a game last season after being on from the start. I consider a player who never feature in full games as a bit part player, rather than a player who managers build a team around. Perhaps my definition is wrong, do correct me but I do not recall seeing Jordan play many full games for us.
This what I would like to see next season, players joining the likes of Luca, Adam and Dens proving their worth. If Jordan is good enough he will be worth the place, lets see if the contract he now has earned in Lee's eyes comes to fruition, rather than he being written off as being another Nigel Clough. Give the lad a chance before we say it is a bad signing and everyone says Lee has made a bad decision, we are after all getting an established player with league experience. I am also sure that Lee will have told him to prove himself. Watch this space!! But don't write him off yet.
nigel cough was the star of the forest side of the late 80s
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He also got 14 England Caps.
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Hi Jimmy
Whilst I agree with you, rarely did he complete a game last season after being on from the start. I consider a player who never feature in full games as a bit part player, rather than a player who managers build a team around. Perhaps my definition is wrong, do correct me but I do not recall seeing Jordan play many full games for us.
This what I would like to see next season, players joining the likes of Luca, Adam and Dens proving their worth. If Jordan is good enough he will be worth the place, lets see if the contract he now has earned in Lee's eyes comes to fruition, rather than he being written off as being another Nigel Clough. Give the lad a chance before we say it is a bad signing and everyone says Lee has made a bad decision, we are after all getting an established player with league experience. I am also sure that Lee will have told him to prove himself. Watch this space!! But don't write him off yet.
He is on NON-CONTRACT terms. ??? ???
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Js mainly played right midfield and as the only other options there are Lawrie or Richman , I suspect JS could end up starting there.
Jesus wept
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The rw should be Crowther but hes wank
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If we don't find the elusive right sided midfielder before the start of the season I would be tempted to try Griffith at right back and play Dens right midfield.
The only time we ever look dangerous down the right is when he gets forward.
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If we don't find the elusive right sided midfielder before the start of the season I would be tempted to try Griffith at right back and play Dens right midfield.
The only time we ever look dangerous down the right is when he gets forward.
I know Griffith played right back for a considerable time at Port Vale, but I'm not convinced that this solution would work. I'd sooner play Scott Leather at right back if we were to push Dens forward.....or even young Mr.Sinnott who played pretty well there against Wigan.
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Sean densmore is as good as any right back we've had in 30 years to not play him there would be odd
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I agree Jim. Whatever else happens let's stick to our strengths.
Coburn/Deasy
Havern. Leather/Marshall
Densmore. Griffin
Richman Moult
Crowther. Lawrie. Clee
Reeves
Will (kinda) see us right this year. Yes clear room for improvement buts let's remember we were clearly good enough for this league last year and clocked off early. A poor start last year coat us points against bottom 8 teams, nothing to lose in the first six weeks this year.
I'd prob go Havern/Leather this year as they're class and all said and done we'll not go far wrong with them two.
At the end of the day (which it is) we've got the highest gates we've had for years and in a months time are at home to Tranmere Rovers.
Up the Robins!!
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I agree Jim. Whatever else happens let's stick to our strengths.
Coburn/Deasy
Havern. Leather/Marshall
Densmore. Griffin
Richman Moult
Crowther. Lawrie. Clee
Reeves
Will (kinda) see us right this year. Yes clear room for improvement buts let's remember we were clearly good enough for this league last year and clocked off early. A poor start last year coat us points against bottom 8 teams, nothing to lose in the first six weeks this year.
I'd prob go Havern/Leather this year as they're class and all said and done we'll not go far wrong with them two.
At the end of the day (which it is) we've got the highest gates we've had for years and in a months time are at home to Tranmere Rovers.
Up the Robins!!
So all the new players are not as good as last year's side?
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From what I have seen and heard that's my impression.
Maybe Rankine but I'm not sure we're strong enough in midfield to go two up front.
I might add that I expect a lot more off Ryan Crowther this season.
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I agree Jim. Whatever else happens let's stick to our strengths.
Coburn/Deasy
Havern. Leather/Marshall
Densmore. Griffin
Richman Moult
Crowther. Lawrie. Clee
Reeves
Will (kinda) see us right this year. Yes clear room for improvement buts let's remember we were clearly good enough for this league last year and clocked off early. A poor start last year coat us points against bottom 8 teams, nothing to lose in the first six weeks this year.
I'd prob go Havern/Leather this year as they're class and all said and done we'll not go far wrong with them two.
At the end of the day (which it is) we've got the highest gates we've had for years and in a months time are at home to Tranmere Rovers.
Up the Robins!!
If we only play 1 up front it will be Rankine
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I agree Jim. Whatever else happens let's stick to our strengths.
Coburn/Deasy
Havern. Leather/Marshall
Densmore. Griffin
Richman Moult
Crowther. Lawrie. Clee
Reeves
Will (kinda) see us right this year. Yes clear room for improvement buts let's remember we were clearly good enough for this league last year and clocked off early. A poor start last year coat us points against bottom 8 teams, nothing to lose in the first six weeks this year.
I'd prob go Havern/Leather this year as they're class and all said and done we'll not go far wrong with them two.
At the end of the day (which it is) we've got the highest gates we've had for years and in a months time are at home to Tranmere Rovers.
Up the Robins!!
If we only play 1 up front it will be Rankine
Can't see Reeves sitting on the bench to be honest.
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I agree Jim. Whatever else happens let's stick to our strengths.
Coburn/Deasy
Havern. Leather/Marshall
Densmore. Griffin
Richman Moult
Crowther. Lawrie. Clee
Reeves
Will (kinda) see us right this year. Yes clear room for improvement buts let's remember we were clearly good enough for this league last year and clocked off early. A poor start last year coat us points against bottom 8 teams, nothing to lose in the first six weeks this year.
I'd prob go Havern/Leather this year as they're class and all said and done we'll not go far wrong with them two.
At the end of the day (which it is) we've got the highest gates we've had for years and in a months time are at home to Tranmere Rovers.
Up the Robins!!
If we only play 1 up front it will be Rankine
if that is the case we better play 2 up top because if reeves doesn't play we will go down
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Densmore......Havern.....Marshell.......Griffin
..........................Griffiths
............Richman.....Moult..........Clee
.......................Reeves....Rankine
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Or if you wanting on up to
Densmore......Havern.....Marshell.......Griffin
..........................Griffiths
............Richman.....Moult..........Clee
...........................Lawrie
.......................Reeves....
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It's a squad game, and we do at least have options now
.........Leather.......Marshell.....Havern
Sinnot.....................Griffiths.................Griffin
........O'keefe......Moult........
.........................Crowther
..........................Rankine
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I agree Jim. Whatever else happens let's stick to our strengths.
Coburn/Deasy
Havern. Leather/Marshall
Densmore. Griffin
Richman Moult
Crowther. Lawrie. Clee
Reeves
Will (kinda) see us right this year. Yes clear room for improvement buts let's remember we were clearly good enough for this league last year and clocked off early. A poor start last year coat us points against bottom 8 teams, nothing to lose in the first six weeks this year.
I'd prob go Havern/Leather this year as they're class and all said and done we'll not go far wrong with them two.
At the end of the day (which it is) we've got the highest gates we've had for years and in a months time are at home to Tranmere Rovers.
Up the Robins!!
If we only play 1 up front it will be Rankine
Can't see Reeves sitting on the bench to be honest.
Stranger things have happened - remember Gillespie and Perry up front against Lincoln last August, while Reeves sat on the bench?
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Yes and looked what happened in that match until reeves appeared
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Yes and looked what happened in that match until reeves appeared
Oh I know - I'm not saying I approve, it was more to demonstrate that you can never tell what Lee is thinking.
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One thing we know is certain, is that he's happy to drop his best forwards (Reeves, Walshaw, Watmore) - often bewilderingly so.
He's got away with it so far, but we don't need reminding it cost us our place in this league under previous management.
I genuinely think he'll take a shine to Rankine, play him on his own up top and leave Reeves on the bench. And yes, I think this would be wrong.
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There's no reason we shouldn't start with 4-4-2 and see how we go.
Pressing should always start from the top, giving the midfield a break - we haven't done this well enough in previous years, which I believe is the key factor to our midfield being overrun. Rankine might be the difference in allowing us to play this way.
In terms of midfield, I genuinely haven't seen enough from the new signings to displace Richman, Moult and Lawrie - although in Griffith he wouldn't have signed one of his old boys not to start him.
I worry about the wide positions due to the inconsistency of Crowther and the fitness of Clee.
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Coburn
Densmore, Griffin, Luca, Marshall
Griffith, Moult, Richman, Lawrie, Clee
Reeves
Subs; Rankine, Crowther, Leather, Deasy, one other
We're not good enough to play 442
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To be fair to Sinnott he makes mistakes in team selections like any manager however he does seem to spot them quickly I also wouldn't play. 4 4 2
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There's no reason we shouldn't start with 4-4-2 and see how we go.
Pressing should always start from the top, giving the midfield a break - we haven't done this well enough in previous years, which I believe is the key factor to our midfield being overrun. Rankine might be the difference in allowing us to play this way.
In terms of midfield, I genuinely haven't seen enough from the new signings to displace Richman, Moult and Lawrie - although in Griffith he wouldn't have signed one of his old boys not to start him.
I worry about the wide positions due to the inconsistency of Crowther and the fitness of Clee.
despite the fitness along with reeves and densmore clee would be the player I worry least about
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I think he wants to play 4-4-2 but whether he dare against FGR I doubt.
For me, playing 4-4-2 we need a quality rw, and we haven't.
I think it will be 4-3--1-2.
History tells us not playing Reeves is a huge mistake.
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We are not creative enough in midfield so I think we need to play both Rankine and Reeves if we are to get the extra 20 goals Lee is targeting. Reeves puts a lot more effort in now when we don't have the ball than he used to a couple of years ago, that might enable us to play him and Rankine. I like the idea of the three across the middle behind them - Dens can provide the width and Griffith stays back to cover. Sort of works.
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We are not creative enough in midfield so I think we need to play both Rankine and Reeves if we are to get the extra 20 goals Lee is targeting. Reeves puts a lot more effort in now when we don't have the ball than he used to a couple of years ago, that might enable us to play him and Rankine. I like the idea of the three across the middle behind them - Dens can provide the width and Griffith stays back to cover. Sort of works.
yes but Griffith is sh*t
Can't pass water - worse than Rodgers