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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: taxi Phil on July 22, 2015, 12:37:11 PM
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....autographs on the rare occasions that they're asked for.
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...... on
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Not officially released yet as far as I know so might just be on the beach in Benidorm
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Truth is obviously stranger than fiction!!
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stinks of desperation - could we find no-one better? terrible decision
Does the fact that most of the players we released have got a gig somewhere else not tell you something about the quality of those that haven't Lee? Really cross about this, he was obviously not good enough last season and we and Lee agreed on that otherwise he'd have been given a new deal at the end of the season - what the hell has changed since then?
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Completely unjustifiable in my opinion. A very, very poor decision by the club.
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The whole thing stinks. Will be interesting to hear from Dad why he has signed his Son. >:( >:(
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A. Trialist taken off at half time too. Looks like Jordan Sinnott will be the only 'Trialist' to sign. God help us.
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Noooooooooo I don't believe it .
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I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Admittedly I've only been to Abbey Hey so far,but he was probably our best player then. Also have to remember that he probably didnt have a proper pre-season last year,and we've seen glimpses of what he is capable of (ie at Bristol when he put a great cross in for Reeves who scored but ruled offside). We need to see that more often, and I hope we do.
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Playing devils advocate we don't know the terms of the deal and we've signed worse young players who have turned out to be decent later on.
I suspect he is low maintenance and most of this is the usual furore that masks over the facts.
Maybe Sinnout senior should apologise to a couple of people for existing at all and have done with it.
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He may become decent but I'd be surprised can you please explain the young players who were worse than him who turned into decent players just a question I'm not causing an argument
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He may become decent but I'd be surprised can you please explain the young players who were worse than him who turned into decent players just a question I'm not causing an argument
I,too, would be interested in your reply, if you have one.
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This time last year some people were saying Richman wasn't good enough, but he proved himself to be a useful member of the team as the season went on.
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I agree that richman's improvement from when he signed has been amazing however Sinnott would need to improve alot more than that I hope we sign a defender and a forward and that will be 19 and a decent balance
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Nepotism,he's simply not good enough. Very disappointed.
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mention of the Bristol match - it was the only thing he did in the entire game. He didn't track back he didn't put a tackle in, very poor
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I was hoping with not seeing him for a couple of matches, he'd moved on. A truly awful decision and a pretty bad performance by him again tonight. If his Dad was not the manager would he have got the gig. I think not.
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I only hope we see the announcement of A Trialist having signed very soon. I think his performances over the 3 matches I have seen him play in suggest that he has something to offer.
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You may recall my "smoke and mirrors" comment on an earlier thread when he was being left "on trial" after others had been declined.
Let's not kid ourselves. The decisions in this case have probably been made over the breakfast table back in June.
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Yes I am little surprised - but none of us know details of wages / deal etc so it's hard to know how good or bad a signing it is in all honesty
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I only hope we see the announcement of A Trialist having signed very soon. I think his performances over the 3 matches I have seen him play in suggest that he has something to offer.
I missed tonight but I also think he's worth a gig.
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Yes I am little surprised - but none of us know details of wages / deal etc so it's hard to know how good or bad a signing it is in all honesty
Regardless of wages etc he's simply not good enough I'm afraid. We all knew he'd sign though so it's no surprise.
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Cannot disagree Boss Hogg - always a contraversial signing
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Nepotism,he's simply not good enough. Very disappointed.
This, i really hope sinnout has not just given himself a rope in which to hang himself with
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The only way he wouldn't have signed was if he was offered a full time gig somewhere.
No idea what he's costing but as he can play in number of positions I think it a decent enough signing. The most worrying thing is I don't think it will be the worst capture of the summer.
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While I'm usually the first to say, give the lad a chance, on this occasion we have all seen Jordan Sinnott play and he is just not good enough to represent Altrincham. It's not a case of lambasting the manager at all - a father would do anything for his son, but I'm just disappointed that the club have allowed this to happen - it'll inevitably end in tears. My main concern is not Jordan's wage or lack of wage, it's more that Lee will probably be inclined to select his son over a more deserving other. It actually reminds me of Northwich some years ago selecting the owners son as their first choice keeper, even though the fans soon realised he was awful. I just thought we were better than that.
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A squad of 18 will mean two players miss out evey week lets see who it is in a fortnight.
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It's a signing that's got everyone so exited people are back on the forum
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A squad of 18 will mean two players miss out evey week lets see who it is in a fortnight.
more than 2 should miss out as18 isn't enough
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While I'm usually the first to say, give the lad a chance, on this occasion we have all seen Jordan Sinnott play and he is just not good enough to represent Altrincham. It's not a case of lambasting the manager at all - a father would do anything for his son, but I'm just disappointed that the club have allowed this to happen - it'll inevitably end in tears. My main concern is not Jordan's wage or lack of wage, it's more that Lee will probably be inclined to select his son over a more deserving other. It actually reminds me of Northwich some years ago selecting the owners son as their first choice keeper, even though the fans soon realised he was awful. I just thought we were better than that.
Quality post!
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Complete farce
We going backwards quickly - long season of struggle ahead
Nepotism taken over
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Scapegoat alert.
People have had a vendetta against him since he was first announced as signing for us.
If he was called Joe Bloggs, had the same current and potential ability that Sinnott does, played those games for us last season and put in the same performances that Sinnott has done during pre-season... There would not have been such a reaction to him re-signing. People may have been underwhelmed perhaps, and that is justifiable, but to call it a farce and a disgrace is a bit pathetic in my opinion.
It's like people think you can't sign the manager's son unless he's going to be the best player at the club. The fact is he's been signed as a squad player. In him we've got one set of legs that can COVER three positions on the field, and that set of legs hasn't looked any better or worse than anyone else at the club during the pre-season fixtures. I don't doubt for a second that he's been signed as cover.
After a full pre-season with us, the jury is still out on him for me. I think he'll turn out okay.
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I agree that because he is the managers son people will give him stick however It is very rair that a player who is poor in 2 loan spells has another go and if he was called Jo bloggs he wouldn't be here
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While I'm usually the first to say, give the lad a chance, on this occasion we have all seen Jordan Sinnott play and he is just not good enough to represent Altrincham. It's not a case of lambasting the manager at all - a father would do anything for his son, but I'm just disappointed that the club have allowed this to happen - it'll inevitably end in tears. My main concern is not Jordan's wage or lack of wage, it's more that Lee will probably be inclined to select his son over a more deserving other. It actually reminds me of Northwich some years ago selecting the owners son as their first choice keeper, even though the fans soon realised he was awful. I just thought we were better than that.
many good points you make there Brian back when we signed twiss I said the club should've stepped in then and stopped what everyone knew was a shocking signing
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Scapegoat alert.
People have had a vendetta against him since he was first announced as signing for us.
If he was called Joe Bloggs, had the same current and potential ability that Sinnott does, played those games for us last season and put in the same performances that Sinnott has done during pre-season... There would not have been such a reaction to him re-signing. People may have been underwhelmed perhaps, and that is justifiable, but to call it a farce and a disgrace is a bit pathetic in my opinion.
It's like people think you can't sign the manager's son unless he's going to be the best player at the club. The fact is he's been signed as a squad player. In him we've got one set of legs that can COVER three positions on the field, and that set of legs hasn't looked any better or worse than anyone else at the club during the pre-season fixtures. I don't doubt for a second that he's been signed as cover.
After a full pre-season with us, the jury is still out on him for me. I think he'll turn out okay.
Excellent post. There is also the fact that the wages pit is not bottomless so a player who can cover several positions at moderate cost - which I suspect is the case here - is potentially a useful addition to a squad which isn't going to number more than 19 at most. He's not a great player but he's by no means the worst we've ever had!
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Several positions it's like getting a cowboy without a trade who does a bit of everything badly round to do a job on the house
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Son or not he still is not good enough , we have to accept him now and i for one hope that he proves me wrong , and will be glad to apologise if he does so .
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Nepotism,he's simply not good enough. Very disappointed.
This, i really hope sinnout has not just given himself a rope in which to hang himself with
Complete farce
We going backwards quickly - long season of struggle ahead
Nepotism taken over
It may prove not to be a good signing but how you can say the club is going backwards is beyond me entirely. Also, there is no way Sinnott's job is that insecure that signing his son could result in a sacking. He's done a great job for us and I cannot believe the amount of flak he gets on here from a few supporters sometimes. Utterly bizarre.
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All I will say is 12 months ago plenty on here were slagging off Griffin, Marshall and on the odd occasion even England's No1
If Jordon hasn't cut the mustard by the end of Sept then I will hold my hand up.
I just hope the Alty players don't read the forum or not many of them would have any confidence.
It's July not January. Maybe there are other signings to come. Let's give this current squad a chance in the league before we write next season off.
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The fact that he's a non contract signing is a bit of a good thing at least. If he proves himself to be a good player after-all we sign him up on a contract, and if he tosses it off we can just get rid.
I know a lot of people are upset over this, but it's not like the Twiss situation where we were stuck with him for two years.
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My problem with Jordan is his commitment , he does have some good points , his crossing and free kicks are fine but he doesn't get stuck in , he seems to be reluctant to tackle and ducks out of 50/50 challenges .
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He's the missing piece of the jigsaw.
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He's the missing piece of the jigsaw.
Barry, do we have a new jigsaw? He didn't fit the old one twice. Perhaps he's the missing link..... ;D
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The fact that he's a non contract signing is a bit of a good thing at least. If he proves himself to be a good player after-all we sign him up on a contract, and if he tosses it off we can just get rid.
I know a lot of people are upset over this, but it's not like the Twiss situation where we were stuck with him for two years.
The reason he's only signed non contract is he thinks he's good enough to get back in the league so wants to leave his options open.
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The reason he's only signed non contract is he thinks he's good enough to get back in the league so wants to leave his options open.
In theory you'd think that would be a good thing, because it means he should be pulling his tripe out every time he plays at the very least.
We've got to look for positives wherever they exist. :)
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The fact that he's a non contract signing is a bit of a good thing at least. If he proves himself to be a good player after-all we sign him up on a contract, and if he tosses it off we can just get rid.
I know a lot of people are upset over this, but it's not like the Twiss situation where we were stuck with him for two years.
The reason he's only signed non contract is he thinks he's good enough to get back in the league so wants to leave his options open.
Best of luck with that...
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This is a strange decision based on what I have seen of this player so far
I hope he proves me wrong .. as of course as all on here I have altys best interest at heart and want us to have a strong season
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Scapegoat alert.
People have had a vendetta against him since he was first announced as signing for us.
If he was called Joe Bloggs, had the same current and potential ability that Sinnott does, played those games for us last season and put in the same performances that Sinnott has done during pre-season... There would not have been such a reaction to him re-signing. People may have been underwhelmed perhaps, and that is justifiable, but to call it a farce and a disgrace is a bit pathetic in my opinion.
It's like people think you can't sign the manager's son unless he's going to be the best player at the club. The fact is he's been signed as a squad player. In him we've got one set of legs that can COVER three positions on the field, and that set of legs hasn't looked any better or worse than anyone else at the club during the pre-season fixtures. I don't doubt for a second that he's been signed as cover.
After a full pre-season with us, the jury is still out on him for me. I think he'll turn out okay.
you sure about that?
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Scapegoat alert.
People have had a vendetta against him since he was first announced as signing for us.
If he was called Joe Bloggs, had the same current and potential ability that Sinnott does, played those games for us last season and put in the same performances that Sinnott has done during pre-season... There would not have been such a reaction to him re-signing. People may have been underwhelmed perhaps, and that is justifiable, but to call it a farce and a disgrace is a bit pathetic in my opinion.
It's like people think you can't sign the manager's son unless he's going to be the best player at the club. The fact is he's been signed as a squad player. In him we've got one set of legs that can COVER three positions on the field, and that set of legs hasn't looked any better or worse than anyone else at the club during the pre-season fixtures. I don't doubt for a second that he's been signed as cover.
After a full pre-season with us, the jury is still out on him for me. I think he'll turn out okay.
you sure about that?
Yes. We clearly have better players in every position he can play, the only position that is up for debate is at right-midfield. Crowther gets the nod for me. Densmore is obviously our first choice right-back, and Leather is our #1 choice to fill in there. We are also very strong in the middle of the park.
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But Lee has always accommodated him, and played him ahead of better players. He started most of the games during his last spell here, Sinnott family interest ahead of that of Altrincham FC
During his first spell he was even picked ahead of Watmore
Farce
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We need players, need to balance books and need cover in various positions.
I expect we will be signing a forward shortly if rumours are right.
I don't see it as a startling signing but it is perhaps a necessary signing. The club simply does not have money to throw around.
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We need players, need to balance books and need cover in various positions.
I expect we will be signing a forward shortly if rumours are right.
I don't see it as a startling signing but it is perhaps a necessary signing. The club simply does not have money to throw around.
Fully agree club doesn't have money to waste on signings like this
Throwing money away to the Sinnott household - we will be paying his wife next!
Nepotism
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Hopefully on 8th Aug. We will get off to a good start against The Fools on the Hill and all the pre season speculation and assumptions will be gone..
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First off let me say I am not impressed by the signing of Jordan Sinnott, and would (for example) have preferred Greg Wilkinson to have been retained.
But I do believe that Lee has earned our respect plays football the right way and has been a better judge of players than many on this forum, including me. Therefore I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt . In any event the level of vitriol towards him after four years of steady progress is unwarranted.
In addition , the club has not made it easy to decline Jordan's signing on the grounds of nepotism - and we should not overlook that
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First off let me say I am not impressed by the signing of Jordan Sinnott, and would (for example) have preferred Greg Wilkinson to have been retained.
But I do believe that Lee has earned our respect plays football the right way and has been a better judge of players than many on this forum, including me. Therefore I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt . In any event the level of vitriol towards him after four years of steady progress is unwarranted.
In addition , the club has not made it easy to decline Jordan's signing on the grounds of nepotism - and we should not overlook that
Wise words.
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In addition , the club has not made it easy to decline Jordan's signing on the grounds of nepotism - and we should not overlook that
Perhaps I'm being a bit dim but would you care to expand on that because they don't seem to be very wise words to me at the moment.
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What I object to is the statement that he was staying on trial......whereupon he plays no part in the next two games and is promptly signed. I want him to prove his worth, since he's not an absolute donkey, and his ability to slot into different positions is a definite asset. But the manner of his signing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Surely he has proved him self or not in the number of league games last season
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Surely he has proved him self or not in the number of league games last season
Hard to prove yourself when you're not match fit and you're doing odd jobs for a side that has nothing to play for. Intrigued to see how he is for us after a full pre-season. No excuses now that's for sure.
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Better to prove yourself in competetive matches than friendlys and the team had little to play for Sinnott being without a club had a lot to prove
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I think Romeo48 puts it well re. How Jordan was apparently on 'trial', then disappears for a couple of games ( while we conveniently dispense of Jordan Deacey ), before being promptly signed. Whatever anyone says, it just doesn't look right at all. My major concerns are firstly, we have no reason whatsoever to assume that Lee won't select his son as a first teamer, given what happened at the end of last season. Secondly and perhaps more importantly is the message it sends to players wanting a trial at Alty in the future. I'm not saying that the likes of Jaydon Hall and Jordan Deacey were necessarily fantastic players, but in the small world of non league football, you can only imagine the kind of things being said about us by them and others.
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What I object to is the statement that he was staying on trial......whereupon he plays no part in the next two games and is promptly signed. I want him to prove his worth, since he's not an absolute donkey, and his ability to slot into different positions is a definite asset. But the manner of his signing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Phil,
I have been told that Jordan Sinnott had a recent (and evidently unsuccessful) trial with Tranmere Rovers but I don't know whether that coincided with either of our pre-season fixtures at Stalybridge and Witton respectively (when he was not a member of Alty's squad) or if it relates to the closing stages of last season.