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Title: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 09, 2015, 08:09:07 AM
Seemed healthy ques for tickets both before the game and at half time on Saturday,both on a run of four straight league wins

Macc 1-1 Alty

Att 2,007
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: York Alty on February 09, 2015, 12:57:35 PM
score draw.

Att: 2256

Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: thegazelle on February 09, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 09, 2015, 06:05:13 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on February 09, 2015, 06:36:42 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.

Won't be 6 goals in the game. More likely 1 again.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Jimmy on February 09, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Nom de plume on February 09, 2015, 07:01:36 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger
Don't forget they take the sheep to the match to get extra clicks through the turnstiles.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: RockyRobin on February 09, 2015, 07:21:24 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.

What time does your "box office" open tomorrow? Your website is busy boiling chocolate teapots.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 09, 2015, 07:31:07 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger

Look again towards the end of the season. A lot of our bigger gates are yet to come.

We'll have a 1500/1600 average I would expect.

I would reckon yours will end up near to 1100.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: bighairedmike on February 09, 2015, 07:45:05 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger

Look again towards the end of the season. A lot of our bigger gates are yet to come.

We'll have a 1500/1600 average I would expect.

I would reckon yours will end up near to 1100.

If we were second in the league Id guess ours would be about the same.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Jimmy on February 09, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
Yes that is my point also warren the clubs are simalar size
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: York Alty on February 09, 2015, 08:16:40 PM
I understood Maccs debts were far bigger than ours...
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 09, 2015, 08:27:32 PM
I understood Maccs debts were far bigger than ours...

If you have seen the books yourself, then fair play.

Otherwise its just guesswork. 😉
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: arnald on February 09, 2015, 08:46:02 PM
I agree with cathrine st i couldn't give a sh*t about any money
tomorrow its war pay your money take your chance
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: RockyRobin on February 09, 2015, 09:07:51 PM
I understood Maccs debts were far bigger than ours...

If you have seen the books yourself, then fair play.

Otherwise its just guesswork. 😉

You mean like a company health score of 3 out of 100 and 9 CCJ's totalling £32k?
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: RedhillAlty on February 09, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.

Macc bigger than Alty????

In the unlikely event Alty lose tomorrows 'Hoofball'  that will mean 2-1 to Alty in games between us this season.

And who will you credit for tomorrows big gate attendance?
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 09, 2015, 10:30:51 PM
I understood Maccs debts were far bigger than ours...

If you have seen the books yourself, then fair play.

Otherwise its just guesswork. 😉

You mean like a company health score of 3 out of 100 and 9 CCJ's totalling £32k?

This gets to the heart of the matter. If we'd run our club in the same fundamentally bent (hello fiddling grants) and financially irresponsible fashion that Macc have got away with (just about) for the last 10 years we'd have probably gone the same way as Northwich and Runcorn by now. Built on sand.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 09, 2015, 10:45:05 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.

Macc bigger than Alty????

In the unlikely event Alty lose tomorrows 'Hoofball'  that will mean 2-1 to Alty in games between us this season.

And who will you credit for tomorrows big gate attendance?

I'll credit all that turn up, including you lot! Of course, if Alty are as big as Macc, you'll bring over 600, won't you?!

Somehow I doubt that. 400 tops.

Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: robins1978 on February 09, 2015, 10:46:50 PM
Macc 1 Alty 5 (look at Ladbrokes for the odds - worth a quid! - yes I know its those odds as its an unlikely scoreline but u never know)
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Jimmy on February 09, 2015, 10:48:10 PM
Yes but you brought more because you are a team who are near the top and were then if we bring 600 in are position it would mean we're bigger
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: arnald on February 09, 2015, 10:52:00 PM
we took 600 to stockport  last season abit nearer mind
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 09, 2015, 10:56:38 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger

Look again towards the end of the season. A lot of our bigger gates are yet to come.

We'll have a 1500/1600 average I would expect.

I would reckon yours will end up near to 1100.

If we were second in the league Id guess ours would be about the same.

We finished 15th last year - a place below where you are now.

Our average attendance was 1,512.

What is Alty's?
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: beaker141 on February 09, 2015, 10:57:03 PM
Where is best to park at Macc?
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: arnald on February 09, 2015, 11:01:27 PM
Where is best to park at Macc?
big car park they reckon at the ground \ but get there early or sneak a side street
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Jimmy on February 09, 2015, 11:03:08 PM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger

Look again towards the end of the season. A lot of our bigger gates are yet to come.

We'll have a 1500/1600 average I would expect.

I would reckon yours will end up near to 1100.

If we were second in the league Id guess ours would be about the same.

We finished 15th last year - a place below where you are now.

Our average attendance was 1,512.

What is Alty's?
Do you think your gate would be that if you were 15th now no you still had some of the fans you got when you became a leauge team id honestly say you are bigger because you spent 15 plus years in the leauge traditionally about the same size and if you don't go up soon they will be same size again
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: RockyRobin on February 09, 2015, 11:11:13 PM
I understood Maccs debts were far bigger than ours...

If you have seen the books yourself, then fair play.

Otherwise its just guesswork. 😉

You mean like a company health score of 3 out of 100 and 9 CCJ's totalling £32k?

This gets to the heart of the matter. If we'd run our club in the same fundamentally bent (hello fiddling grants) and financially irresponsible fashion that Macc have got away with (just about) for the last 10 years we'd have probably gone the same way as Northwich and Runcorn by now. Built on sand.

With just over a 38% chance of going pop in the next three years.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Jimmy on February 09, 2015, 11:13:51 PM
They won't
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: 1874 Northwich fan on February 09, 2015, 11:30:30 PM
http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/ Notice Maccs attendances are slightly better but so they should be for an ex league club not alot in it
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: JTH on February 10, 2015, 12:00:54 AM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger

Look again towards the end of the season. A lot of our bigger gates are yet to come.

We'll have a 1500/1600 average I would expect.

I would reckon yours will end up near to 1100.

If we were second in the league Id guess ours would be about the same.

We finished 15th last year - a place below where you are now.

Our average attendance was 1,512.

What is Alty's?

http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/confprem/attendances (http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/confprem/attendances)

At present you're 1,520, we're 1,217. Nip and tuck I'd say.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on February 10, 2015, 12:55:38 AM
0-0 bore draw. I'll take three clean sheets though.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on February 10, 2015, 02:33:52 AM
2-0 Macclesfield.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: eightiesrobin on February 10, 2015, 08:18:50 AM
1-0 Altrincham, bit of a mugging.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: brian1925 on February 10, 2015, 10:32:33 AM
There's no way I'm going to predict the result in a match like this, as both teams are in hot form. However, the Macc team I've seen play twice this season, didn't look like they could hit a barn door. Defensively we seem to have got this team licked. Obviously, football isn't as predictable as that, but I think we have plenty of grounds to be hopeful tonight and I'm pretty sure the lads will fancy their chances.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 10, 2015, 11:23:35 AM
i predict 2-1 to alty

macc fans start complaining about getting beaten by a tin pot team when they are nearly as massive as brizzle rovers ... pah

as long as we beat the sheep tamperers . i dont care


We're not as big as Brizzle.

But we're bigger than Alty. 4-2 to the Silkmen tomorrow.

Safe journey over.
Macc are second will make the playoffs with ease however avarage gate only a 100 and odd better gate so it's debatable that they are bigger

Look again towards the end of the season. A lot of our bigger gates are yet to come.

We'll have a 1500/1600 average I would expect.

I would reckon yours will end up near to 1100.

If we were second in the league Id guess ours would be about the same.

We finished 15th last year - a place below where you are now.

Our average attendance was 1,512.

What is Alty's?

http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/confprem/attendances (http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/confprem/attendances)

At present you're 1,520, we're 1,217. Nip and tuck I'd say.

Thanks for that. Macc's average from those figures is 25% higher than Alty's.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: LymmRobin on February 10, 2015, 11:02:11 PM
We were poor first half. Kyle came on and changed everything. Despite going 2 nil down, we showed that we are a match for anyone in this league. Didn't see why our equaliser was ruled offside.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 11, 2015, 12:16:12 AM

Thanks for that. Macc's average from those figures is 25% higher than Alty's.

Creative mathematics? That'll explain all the financial irregularities that seem common place at the Moss Rose.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 11, 2015, 12:26:15 AM
Not a pretty financial picture Catherine Street:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10957883_10153663487162814_7077507776015945155_n.jpg?oh=59959a646810b088ef26fb60e83ffd9b&oe=55504E60&__gda__=1431996703_d0df7d137579f9cb2ce48f962deccbfd)
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 11, 2015, 12:28:01 AM

Thanks for that. Macc's average from those figures is 25% higher than Alty's.

Creative mathematics? That'll explain all the financial irregularities that seem common place at the Moss Rose.

1217 divided by 4 to give 25% is 304.25.

Macc's average is 1521 - 304 higher.

Seems pretty accurate!
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 11, 2015, 12:31:12 AM
Not a pretty financial picture Catherine Street:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10957883_10153663487162814_7077507776015945155_n.jpg?oh=59959a646810b088ef26fb60e83ffd9b&oe=55504E60&__gda__=1431996703_d0df7d137579f9cb2ce48f962deccbfd)

Indeed not.

And yet some folk think our wage bill is 750,000.

Go figure.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 11, 2015, 12:50:24 AM

Thanks for that. Macc's average from those figures is 25% higher than Alty's.

Creative mathematics? That'll explain all the financial irregularities that seem common place at the Moss Rose.

1217 divided by 4 to give 25% is 304.25.

Macc's average is 1521 - 304 higher.

Seems pretty accurate!

For that to be true Alty's average attendance would have to be viewed as the 100% figure meaning that you have an attendance figure of 125%. As you may know, you can not have greater than 100%. Therefore both Alty's and Macc's average attendance must be expressed as a fraction of some other figure in order to get a comparative percentage. Even if you take Macc's average as 100%, that only gives a 20% difference.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on February 11, 2015, 11:02:03 AM
It's like bloody University Challenge on here............
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Hamilton on February 11, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
It's like bloody University Challenge on here............

Macc: Universally challenged!
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: catherinestreet on February 11, 2015, 07:37:04 PM

Thanks for that. Macc's average from those figures is 25% higher than Alty's.

Creative mathematics? That'll explain all the financial irregularities that seem common place at the Moss Rose.

1217 divided by 4 to give 25% is 304.25.

Macc's average is 1521 - 304 higher.

Seems pretty accurate!

For that to be true Alty's average attendance would have to be viewed as the 100% figure meaning that you have an attendance figure of 125%. As you may know, you can not have greater than 100%. Therefore both Alty's and Macc's average attendance must be expressed as a fraction of some other figure in order to get a comparative percentage. Even if you take Macc's average as 100%, that only gives a 20% difference.


Absolutely you can have a percentage more than 100% if you are comparing two different sized numbers and starting with the lower.

Take this example:

If a club has a gate of 1000 one match, and then the next match it is 3000, what is the percentage increase?

It is clearly 200%.

The way to look at it in relation to our crowds is to take it by number. For every 100 people you get through the gate, we get 125. Self evident. Per cent means per hundred after all!

If you'd prefer to see it as every 100 of ours there are 80 of yours, fair enough!
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Hemel Alty on February 11, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
All this cock waving isn't very edifying is it? Fact is Macc have marginally larger crowds at the moment as befits a side with recent league experience, are second in the league and are a town side, as a opposed to a team fresh upfront the Conf North. Looking back at over 100 years history, we are both about the same in terms of size and maybe that's what makes the rivalry so relevant and exciting. Can we let it lie?
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: RedhillAlty on February 11, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
Not a pretty financial picture Catherine Street:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10957883_10153663487162814_7077507776015945155_n.jpg?oh=59959a646810b088ef26fb60e83ffd9b&oe=55504E60&__gda__=1431996703_d0df7d137579f9cb2ce48f962deccbfd)

Indeed not.

And yet some folk think our wage bill is 750,000.

Go figure.

This reminds me of Northwich Victoria FC.

As for your petty argument that Macc are a bigger club, I suggest a neutral opinion could be sort. For example County fans that viewed our support last season in the Conf North better than yours when you were a League club.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 12, 2015, 11:44:06 PM

Absolutely you can have a percentage more than 100% if you are comparing two different sized numbers and starting with the lower.

Take this example:

If a club has a gate of 1000 one match, and then the next match it is 3000, what is the percentage increase?

It is clearly 200%.

The way to look at it in relation to our crowds is to take it by number. For every 100 people you get through the gate, we get 125. Self evident. Per cent means per hundred after all!

If you'd prefer to see it as every 100 of ours there are 80 of yours, fair enough!

In fairness, we are both wrong the percentage difference is actually 22%. I'd forgotten my comparative statistical training.

In any event, it's hardly a staggering difference given our comparative positions in the league and certainly nothing for you to be crowing about.
Title: Re: Macclesfield town match thread
Post by: Hamilton on February 19, 2015, 12:15:39 AM
English couple: "we went to see Fifty Shades of Grey yesterday"
Macc couple: "we went to see Shaun the Sheep yesterday"