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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jimmy on January 25, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
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Couple of seasons back we were going nowhere fast then the loan signing of Danny boshell probably got us in the playoffs who knows 5 points of the playoffs we could take a gamble on a decent player it may sneak us in playoffs
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Agreed , a forward with a bit of pace could really help , doesnt have to be an out and out goalscorer .
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Couple of seasons back we were going nowhere fast then the loan signing of Danny boshell probably got us in the playoffs who knows 5 points of the playoffs we could take a gamble on a decent player it may sneak us in playoffs
Anyone in mind? Serious question.
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Anyone in mind? Serious question.
Chris senior
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Agreed , a forward with a bit of pace could really help , doesnt have to be an out and out goalscorer .
George Donnelly is transfer-listed at Tranmere, an ex-Macc lad, they could realistically let us have him for a bit
What he doesn't give you in goals (he's not a natural finisher by any means) he gives you in effort, runs every channel ball, always gives 110% and could be the perfect foil for Damian.
Along with Cav, he was an integral part of the Rochdale side that went up last season
I think he's a very 'Alty' type of player, might be worth an enquiry for a month and see how he gets on
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I think we should start a bring back wally campaign.
With him this season we would already be in the play offs.
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I think we should start a bring back wally campaign.
With him this season we would already be in the play offs.
Whatever the reasons behind his decision to move, he's gone and unless he had had a sudden change of heart he won't be back.
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I think we should start a bring back wally campaign.
With him this season we would already be in the play offs.
On a serious note, it would have been better value for money if we'd persuaded him to stay and only play in home games. He'd still have scored 10-15 goals.
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Even if we snuck into the play offs, would we even be allowed to compete? Surely we've missed the promotion application required. (sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)
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its a gamble worth taking i think - lets see if there is anyone could out there that could make the difference
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Totally agree with bringing in an extra forward with a bit of pace. Both Ryan and Nicky looked a bit heavy-legged and pedestrian on Saturday. But surely our ability to do so would depend on Steven Gillespie leaving the club. George Donnelly is a very good call though.
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I think we should start a bring back wally campaign.
With him this season we would already be in the play offs.
On a serious note, it would have been better value for money if we'd persuaded him to stay and only play in home games. He'd still have scored 10-15 goals.
Looking at the Harrogate forum, it seems Wally has been benchwarming for the past few games.
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Totally agree with bringing in an extra forward with a bit of pace. Both Ryan and Nicky looked a bit heavy-legged and pedestrian on Saturday. But surely our ability to do so would depend on Steven Gillespie leaving the club. George Donnelly is a very good call though.
Gillespie looked so weak on Saturday. As soon as a defender put any physical pressure on him he lost the ball.
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Totally agree with bringing in an extra forward with a bit of pace. Both Ryan and Nicky looked a bit heavy-legged and pedestrian on Saturday. But surely our ability to do so would depend on Steven Gillespie leaving the club. George Donnelly is a very good call though.
Gillespie looked so weak on Saturday. As soon as a defender put any physical pressure on him he lost the ball.
For a bloke who, on paper at least, had a fairly decent track record in the FL before we got him, he has been an utter disgrace this season. I mean the Michael Twiss comparisons are spot on in every way. The low point for me so far was letting him take that late pen against Alfreton when I just knew he would miss it. I fear it'll be May before we can wash our hands of him.
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Gillespie looked so weak on Saturday. As soon as a defender put any physical pressure on him he lost the ball.
Who passed him the ball?
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Totally agree with bringing in an extra forward with a bit of pace. Both Ryan and Nicky looked a bit heavy-legged and pedestrian on Saturday. But surely our ability to do so would depend on Steven Gillespie leaving the club. George Donnelly is a very good call though.
Gillespie looked so weak on Saturday. As soon as a defender put any physical pressure on him he lost the ball.
For a bloke who, on paper at least, had a fairly decent track record in the FL before we got him, he has been an utter disgrace this season. I mean the Michael Twiss comparisons are spot on in every way. The low point for me so far was letting him take that late pen against Alfreton when I just knew he would miss it. I fear it'll be May before we can wash our hands of him.
Agree with all of that. I also think he's had a much easier ride on here than Twiss did, possibly because he has played a lot less and so the disappointment has been less obvious? Possibly because the team are still doing well despite him?
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I think it's because he gets so little pitch time.
In fairness to him, he's not going to get any fitter, or more confident, or "fit in" better by playing 10 minutes a game. Kyle gets more pitch time, which has got to be a kick in the teeth for a striker of Gillespie's provenance. The guy once cost nearly half a million quid.
Unfortunately, you wouldn't fancy him to hit an empty net from 6 yards, so what can you do?
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While we're on the subject of gambling I thought I'd look up some of the odds on Alty.
We're 300/1 to get promoted with Bet365 which is rather generous.
And we're 4/1 to finish in the top-half which I think is also a decent price, reckon it should be more like 2/1 or 5/2.
I can't see us bringing anyone in, any chance of reaching the play-offs is so slim that I really don't think it's worth the gamble in terms of wages etc.
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Even if we snuck into the play offs, would we even be allowed to compete? Surely we've missed the promotion application required. (sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)
The deadline for applications for promotion from the Conference used to be around November time & the cost of applying was not negligible.....£900-£1000 from memory.We only paid this on one occasion (2009-10) when we carried out a bucket collection to help pay the application fee.Things are a little different now & the initial application, which has no cost, needs to be in by the end of this month, so I guess that Mr.Wilshaw will be taking care of that. There is a second stage to the process when the application has to be confirmed & it is then that the application fee has to be paid.I believe that this is in March.So I am sure that that if there was any possibility of us achieving the Play-Offs at that point, we would confirm the application then & pay the fee, which I think is still about the same amount.
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Gillespies miss vs wrexham was unbelievable
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Even if we snuck into the play offs, would we even be allowed to compete? Surely we've missed the promotion application required. (sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)
The deadline for applications for promotion from the Conference used to be around November time & the cost of applying was not negligible.....£900-£1000 from memory.We only paid this on one occasion (2009-10) when we carried out a bucket collection to help pay the application fee.Things are a little different now & the initial application, which has no cost, needs to be in by the end of this month, so I guess that Mr.Wilshaw will be taking care of that. There is a second stage to the process when the application has to be confirmed & it is then that the application fee has to be paid.I believe that this is in March.So I am sure that that if there was any possibility of us achieving the Play-Offs at that point, we would confirm the application then & pay the fee, which I think is still about the same amount.
Thanks for the updated info - all seems like a racket to me.
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Even if we snuck into the play offs, would we even be allowed to compete? Surely we've missed the promotion application required. (sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)
The deadline for applications for promotion from the Conference used to be around November time & the cost of applying was not negligible.....£900-£1000 from memory.We only paid this on one occasion (2009-10) when we carried out a bucket collection to help pay the application fee.Things are a little different now & the initial application, which has no cost, needs to be in by the end of this month, so I guess that Mr.Wilshaw will be taking care of that. There is a second stage to the process when the application has to be confirmed & it is then that the application fee has to be paid.I believe that this is in March.So I am sure that that if there was any possibility of us achieving the Play-Offs at that point, we would confirm the application then & pay the fee, which I think is still about the same amount.
Thanks for the updated info - all seems like a racket to me.
There is a full inspection of the ground & a report produced for the club of what is required.I think that we did quite well last time we were inspected, with no surprises in terms of what was required to upgrade to Football League standard.
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Even if we snuck into the play offs, would we even be allowed to compete? Surely we've missed the promotion application required. (sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)
The deadline for applications for promotion from the Conference used to be around November time & the cost of applying was not negligible.....£900-£1000 from memory.We only paid this on one occasion (2009-10) when we carried out a bucket collection to help pay the application fee.Things are a little different now & the initial application, which has no cost, needs to be in by the end of this month, so I guess that Mr.Wilshaw will be taking care of that. There is a second stage to the process when the application has to be confirmed & it is then that the application fee has to be paid.I believe that this is in March.So I am sure that that if there was any possibility of us achieving the Play-Offs at that point, we would confirm the application then & pay the fee, which I think is still about the same amount.
Thanks for the updated info - all seems like a racket to me.
There is a full inspection of the ground & a report produced for the club of what is required.
A few new crush barriers, re-open another turnstile and a couple of centre forwards......... :)
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Even if we snuck into the play offs, would we even be allowed to compete? Surely we've missed the promotion application required. (sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)
The deadline for applications for promotion from the Conference used to be around November time & the cost of applying was not negligible.....£900-£1000 from memory.We only paid this on one occasion (2009-10) when we carried out a bucket collection to help pay the application fee.Things are a little different now & the initial application, which has no cost, needs to be in by the end of this month, so I guess that Mr.Wilshaw will be taking care of that. There is a second stage to the process when the application has to be confirmed & it is then that the application fee has to be paid.I believe that this is in March.So I am sure that that if there was any possibility of us achieving the Play-Offs at that point, we would confirm the application then & pay the fee, which I think is still about the same amount.
Thanks for the updated info - all seems like a racket to me.
There is a full inspection of the ground & a report produced for the club of what is required.I think that we did quite well last time we were inspected, with no surprises in terms of what was required to upgrade to Football League standard.
Any I application should last a period of time, say 5 years with a self assessment that these elements are still true. There could then be a sub assessment that can applied quickly (after all there are only four qualifiers) upon qualification for the playoffs.
OR....at least a partial refund on if you don't get in to the play offs. Unless it is a not for profit exercise.
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I think it's because he gets so little pitch time.
In fairness to him, he's not going to get any fitter, or more confident, or "fit in" better by playing 10 minutes a game. Kyle gets more pitch time, which has got to be a kick in the teeth for a striker of Gillespie's provenance. The guy once cost nearly half a million quid.
Unfortunately, you wouldn't fancy him to hit an empty net from 6 yards, so what can you do?
His lack of pitch time is his fault though. He had plenty of game time at the start but played himself out of the team. Although, this was in combination with a need to strengthen midfield rather than 2 upfront. I wouldn't have him behind Reeves either though.
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I think it's because he gets so little pitch time.
In fairness to him, he's not going to get any fitter, or more confident, or "fit in" better by playing 10 minutes a game. Kyle gets more pitch time, which has got to be a kick in the teeth for a striker of Gillespie's provenance. The guy once cost nearly half a million quid.
Unfortunately, you wouldn't fancy him to hit an empty net from 6 yards, so what can you do?
His lack of pitch time is his fault though. He had plenty of game time at the start but played himself out of the team. Although, this was in combination with a need to strengthen midfield rather than 2 upfront. I wouldn't have him behind Reeves either though.
I don't argue with that. I agree that the team has altered its playing style somewhat since his run of starts early on. I think the miss at Wrexham did it for him. I remember reading a transcript of Lee Sinnott's post match interview. You could almost hear Sinnott's teeth gnashing together.
I think that unless Reeves is injured and Sinnott is forced to pick him, (and he manages to score some goals), then he'll have to go in May.
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I think he needs to go out on loan asap. He's clearly neither use nor ornament as things stand, so if he went and got some game time and (hopefully) scored a goal or two, it might just give him the confidence boost he needs to turn his form around.
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I think he needs to go out on loan asap. He's clearly neither use nor ornament as things stand, so if he went and got some game time and (hopefully) scored a goal or two, it might just give him the confidence boost he needs to turn his form around.
While I agree that he's neither use nor ornament (great phrase that isn't it?), he can't really go until a replacement is found though, can he? There are already holes in the squad, with Williams not being replaced, and what looks like an extended stay at County for Wilko. I'm still wondering when the "new faces" LS talked about are going to show up.
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He can go now replacement or not waste of space one of youth forwards can do no worse than nothing
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He can go now replacement or not waste of space one of youth forwards can do no worse than nothing
Yeah, this is basically where I was coming from also.
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Really? If he went that would leave just 15 senior outfield players.
From what was said by those who saw the Northwich game, the reserves are nowhere near ready to play 1st team. I didn't go, but looking at Mr Ripley's photgraphs, they all look like fawns.
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Yes really he does nothing
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Really? If he went that would leave just 15 senior outfield players.
From what was said by those who saw the Northwich game, the reserves are nowhere near ready to play 1st team. I didn't go, but looking at Mr Ripley's photgraphs, they all look like fawns.
none of the reserves are anywhere good enough for the first team - but they were all better than Gillespie
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I think he needs to go out on loan asap. He's clearly neither use nor ornament as things stand, so if he went and got some game time and (hopefully) scored a goal or two, it might just give him the confidence boost he needs to turn his form around.
worst player since Terry Farrell
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Actually, at Eastleigh he did ok when he came on helped us keep the ball on the counter.
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I can't see Wilkinson returning in all honesty. Talented though he is he was barely trusted last season and even less so this. A leap of faith to think a few games at County will turn him into a conference player.
That said, we're skimping it and won't be bringing in any new faces so he may return at some point but probably to repeat his first part of the season.